on a consistent basis with a non-existent pass rush?
These nightmare years for the Giants have been punctuated by such poor play in so many areas, but the lack of a pass rush really stands out.
The Giants need to clear out some dead wood and use their 2022 draft capital to find all-around players who can rush the passer.
A few potential candidates:
Zach Harrison (Ohio State)
Kayvon Thibodeaux (Oregon)
George Karlaftis (Purdue)
Aidan Hutchinson (Michigan)
Very comfortable. The Giants pass rush keeps opposing QBs on schedule, on target, on time, all of the time.
What kills me, is for how many years now, have we seen teams throw caution to the wind and just blitz, stunt, and twist like crazy until our OC, OL, and QB prove they can stop it. Us? We play a soft zone and rush no more than 4 consistently. Last night,, the plan should have been to have somebody in his face almost every down and let our high priced CBs and talented Ss make plays. That zone should be thrown in once in a while and disguised to fool a young QB. It should not be what he sees every down to allow his receivers find the big holes and sit in them for mostly easy throws.
Been counting his money?
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This has been going on for 2 years now. Even last game one player said the game plan was to squeeze the pocket. It is a controlled pass rush designed to not let the QB scramble and force bad throws. Don't know why this is the approach. QBs have been comfortable sitting in these pockets the last two year like Murray, Mayfield, Bridgewater, and Heinicke.
That was the plan last week. I cna't imagine that was the plan this week in Heinicke's first start.
What kills me, is for how many years now, have we seen teams throw caution to the wind and just blitz, stunt, and twist like crazy until our OC, OL, and QB prove they can stop it. Us? We play a soft zone and rush no more than 4 consistently. Last night,, the plan should have been to have somebody in his face almost every down and let our high priced CBs and talented Ss make plays. That zone should be thrown in once in a while and disguised to fool a young QB. It should not be what he sees every down to allow his receivers find the big holes and sit in them for mostly easy throws.
Watch the game again and focus on the rush.
Opposite. We started going to a more zone based team last year after teams were picking on our second corner.
But if you have no pass rush at all, and give up 3-5 every run, then they can happily dink and dunk you to death, trying an occasional deep shot.
Someone has to make a play up front. No one has.
Lot of football to be played. I didn't think this would be a championship team but I thought the defense would build on what they did last year.
Teams can get better as the season wears on - let's see what happens. If not
Drafting Kiwi with Osi, Strahan, and Tuck in front of him.
Drafting JPP with Osi and Tuck in front of him.
It feels like the FO (even in Reese's later years) just tore up that philosophy.
No they load the secondary with fat contracts, and make Bridgewater and Heinicke look like Tom Brady with no pressure whats so ever.
and stop with the 10-yard cushions.
But does that really accomplish anything without a legitimate pass rush?
But if you have no pass rush at all, and give up 3-5 every run, then they can happily dink and dunk you to death, trying an occasional deep shot.
Someone has to make a play up front. No one has.
Of course the soft zone only works if the players have enough stamina.
Drafting Kiwi with Osi, Strahan, and Tuck in front of him.
Drafting JPP with Osi and Tuck in front of him.
It feels like the FO (even in Reese's later years) just tore up that philosophy.
No they load the secondary with fat contracts, and make Bridgewater and Heinicke look like Tom Brady with no pressure whats so ever.
So how did that philosophy get torn up for the Giants? It's been a running line throughout Giants' history (and for an organization that cleaves to its past as much as the Giants), we've never done well without a pass rush at the edges, be it Lawrence Taylor, George Martin, and Leonard Marshall in the 80s, or Strahan, Hammer, Osi, Tuck, Kiwanuka, and JPP in the 00s.
Gettleman seems to extol it "Run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer", but he doesn't put his money where his mouth is given that he hasn't made much of an effort to improve the pass rush, particularly the edges.
Seattle was the perfect matchup schemetically and personnel for the defense Graham wants to call. They want to run and throw the ball down the field. I'm starting to think it's fools gold and until I see Graham put together a gameplan for these offenses that want to put together long drives with high completion percentage, I'm lost on him being an answer.
We can't force coverage sacks if we give up so much underneath. Azeez is a good coverage sack guy to have and we generate plenty of interior pressure. Graham needs to tighten it up and let the chips fall where they may.
We can't force coverage sacks if we give up so much underneath. Azeez is a good coverage sack guy to have and we generate plenty of interior pressure. Graham needs to tighten it up and let the chips fall where they may.
Why doesn't he trust the secondary, isn't that what we've poured funds into (Bradberry and Jackson)? How come he barely plays man defense, considering that's why we got Jackson?
I'd love to see that in action; Thibodeaux at right end and Karlaftis at left.
True. Two pass rushers would be a nice pipe dream though.
Also, do our pass rushers have any more moves than bull rush? Bull rush can be effective (it's how Michael Strahan made his bones), but surely there's other ways of getting past an offensive lineman (Ojulari apparently has a good rip move but I've yet to see it used).