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I’m getting 2017 vibes with this season

Sean : 9/17/2021 7:25 am
Things are already starting to unravel. High priced Kenny Golladay is already on the sidelines yelling. Kadarius Toney is posting cryptic messages on Instagram. The team has not looked well coached or disciplined these first two weeks. Last nights loss reminded me a lot of the loss in Philly in early 2017, boneheaded penalties cost them.

This team has a lot of high priced FA’s with a tough coach, this just screams trouble. We’ve seen this script before. Here is the upcoming schedule:

ATL
@NO
@DAL
LAR
CAR
@KC

At best, you’ve got to think 2-6, maybe 1-7. I just think this combination of players + coach could lead to a disaster.

Some more very depressing stats:
The Giants are 51-88 since hurricane sandy
The Giants are 15-35 since Gettleman took over

I’m at the point where I think this team needs to really bottom out. And if that means Judge goes, so be it. The Mara’s are not going away, but a new outside general manager with some forward thinking ideas would be the biggest change in this organization in many years. It can’t be Abrams. Despite what Mara would have you believe, there was NOT wholesale changes after 2017.
It is already over.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/17/2021 7:26 am : link
September 17th. UFB.
RE: It is already over.  
nygiants16 : 9/17/2021 7:27 am : link
In comment 15373030 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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September 17th. UFB.


its not over come on
"Kadarius Toney is posting cryptic messages on Instagram"  
M.S. : 9/17/2021 7:28 am : link

Can you provide a link or list a few that caught your eye?
RE: It is already over.  
Sean : 9/17/2021 7:29 am : link
In comment 15373030 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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September 17th. UFB.

It’s not over NOW. This division is not good. But, I don’t see it turning around.
M.S.  
Sean : 9/17/2021 7:30 am : link
Here.
Link - ( New Window )
A couple of things  
Matt M. : 9/17/2021 7:31 am : link
1) What is Toney posting? I don't have Instagram, so I can't just check and I haven't read about it here as of yet.

2) I've said it a few times in the last week, anything less than 7-8 wins and the entire staff plus Gettleman should be gone. And, even with 7 or 8 I would consider it.
If they lose next week at home to Atlanta  
nygiants16 : 9/17/2021 7:43 am : link
it might get ugly but right now not yet
He’s probably unhappy  
Dave on the UWS : 9/17/2021 7:46 am : link
because he’s healthy and not seeing the field.
I'm not saying Toney should be taking snaps from Golladay, Shepard,  
Matt M. : 9/17/2021 7:50 am : link
or even Slayton. But, there is no fucking way Board should be on the field more than Toney. And, if he's so dangerous with the ball in his hands, why is he not returning kicks and punts? Those are easy ways to get the ball in his hands without a lot to think about.
This thing has the feel/smell of 3-14, 4-13, or 5-12  
The_Boss : 9/17/2021 8:11 am : link
And yes, to me, canning Judge along with fucking Dave would be justified. What you have to watch for as the losses pile up, and they will, are players bitching to the media anonymously and yelling at teammates on game days. The guys I’d be concerned with right now are KG and Toney. I think seeds of bullshit were planted last night with KG yelling (looked like at Jones to me) and Toney’s social media post. Judge can’t pull the tough guy stuff anymore if the results aren’t there. Especially if he’s a big reason for the L’s.

I think things are about to get really bad around this team.
Mara is obsessed with Judge  
BeckShepEli : 9/17/2021 8:18 am : link
No shot he’s fired, regardless if he’s a fraud. He’s still paying shurmur this year and next. Regardless of what we hear from John, he doesn’t care about this team and the results. His actions prove that.
RE: He’s probably unhappy  
Beer Man : 9/17/2021 8:26 am : link
In comment 15373075 Dave on the UWS said:
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because he’s healthy and not seeing the field.
I know it is difficult to ride the pine, but he's a rookie who missed all of the preseason, and needs to understand its going to take some time to get to the level he needs to be. Talent alone isn't enough, he needs to learn how to play WR at the pro-level, he needs to learn the playbook, and he needs to build rapport with DJ.
Every goddamned rookie (1st round draft pick) -  
short lease : 9/17/2021 8:28 am : link
knows better than their HC in the NFL.

Michael Strahan who was 9- 10 year veteran when Tom Coughlin became HC said he went "from not wanting to play for TC to not wanting to play for anyone else" - very quickly.

Rookie - STFU, do what the coaches tell you ... and then maybe you will get more reps and playing time.

I am really beginning to wonder if this guy knows anything (or play) in the playbook.

Discipline bro ... study bro.


p.s I read his post ... is that English? What does it even mean? I have no idea.
2015  
jomps : 9/17/2021 8:30 am : link
On the field, this team reminds me of our 2015 season, it didn't matter what our offense did, if there was any time left on the clock we'd lose on a last second FG/TD with a terrible defense.

Sure as hell felt that way yesterday. I just hope we win this time if we score 49 on the Saints again.
I don’t get the 2017 feeling at all, Sean  
cosmicj : 9/17/2021 8:42 am : link
A couple of tough losses. Some coaching underperformance. The staff often did well last season. They need to improve and so do the players.
RE: Mara is obsessed with Judge  
beatrixkiddo : 9/17/2021 8:42 am : link
In comment 15373165 BeckShepEli said:
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No shot he’s fired, regardless if he’s a fraud. He’s still paying shurmur this year and next. Regardless of what we hear from John, he doesn’t care about this team and the results. His actions prove that.


I mean the guy is feeding his fans maggots. He gives two shits less about the fans and this franchise. If anyone is fired you know he has some more dinosaur friends from yester-years past to replace the inept ones he currently hired. Rinse repeat until he sells this team unfortunately.
RE: Every goddamned rookie (1st round draft pick) -  
mphbullet36 : 9/17/2021 9:31 am : link
In comment 15373211 short lease said:
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knows better than their HC in the NFL.

Michael Strahan who was 9- 10 year veteran when Tom Coughlin became HC said he went "from not wanting to play for TC to not wanting to play for anyone else" - very quickly.

Rookie - STFU, do what the coaches tell you ... and then maybe you will get more reps and playing time.

I am really beginning to wonder if this guy knows anything (or play) in the playbook.

Discipline bro ... study bro.


p.s I read his post ... is that English? What does it even mean? I have no idea.


Its on DG and Judge for picking him. They knew what the kid could bring positively and negatively. He has a lot of questionable off the field stuff that they didn't care about because they thought he was a weapon.

So use him as a weapon...otherwise what do they expect to happen. Did they really think someone who is a want to be rapper is going to sit quietly and wait for his turn LOL

Gross negligence from old man Gettleman and fake hustle Judge.
RE: M.S.  
jeff57 : 9/17/2021 9:33 am : link
In comment 15373042 Sean said:
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Here. Link - ( New Window )


I need a translation.
I’m getting 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 vibes  
jeff57 : 9/17/2021 9:33 am : link
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