I’m hoping this could be a (relatively) civil discussion. I think outside of the Eagle game last year when Engram dropped the ball, this was his best game as a pro. Especially considering the defense he was facing.
You got to see a lot of what he can do well. Run, throw downfield, etc. The line gave him time and he was able to make plays. He should’ve had 2 rushing touchdowns. He also didn’t turn the ball over.
I’m still very much up in the air with him. I still probably lean no if he will be a franchise QB but seeing games like last night gives us a glimpse of what he can be. I know sometimes people want to compare him to the Dave Brown’s of the world but we never saw games like that from Brown or Kanell etc.
I know it’s only one game but did he convert anyone on here last night?
I saw a QB jn command of the offense, making audibles, being decisive in his decision making and going through his reads and add on top of his running ability he is dangerous
Lucky (or unlucky depending on how you look at it) he has no competition on the roster, so we'll get to see another entire season to make up our minds.
That said, he wasn't the reason we lost last night.
last night.
But my bottom-line on him is that, whatever flaws there may be in his game, he is not this franchise's biggest worry.
I'm down on Judge in a big way, which I didn't think would happen.
But it is amazing how well he played when he was not on his back.
We don’t make teams pay — 5 fg’s means 5 times we couldn’t score TD’s as well….. Especially after the Bradberry INT… Maybe it was Garrett but that finish was weak, and basically a summation of the tease that is Daniel Jones. “Close” and “almost”…
I’m more encouraged by the oline…
Enough with the moral victories. Fucking win the games.
But it is amazing how well he played when he was not on his back.
The throw behind the receiver was apparently Garrett’s fault
I'm down on Judge in a big way, which I didn't think would happen.
This is where I am, if I'm honest.
I don't think anyone who doesn't think he will be good was swayed after 1 game, but its definitely a step in the right direction.
Going into this season everyone said WFT's defense was going to be very good because of that D-Line, so why does that not matter now?
But you need a decent team around him .
I don't think anyone who doesn't think he will be good was swayed after 1 game, but its definitely a step in the right direction.
Going into this season everyone said WFT's defense was going to be very good because of that D-Line, so why does that not matter now?
Everybody thought the Giants defense was gonna be good too.
Not the game to be critical of Jones. Lets hope he keeps it up.
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should have had an even bigger stat line (call back rushing TD) along with the win. And yeah, the Slayton throw could have been a tad shorter but it was there despite pressure in his face - context.
I don't think anyone who doesn't think he will be good was swayed after 1 game, but its definitely a step in the right direction.
Going into this season everyone said WFT's defense was going to be very good because of that D-Line, so why does that not matter now?
Everybody thought the Giants defense was gonna be good too.
The thread is about Jones.
A couple sequences were frustrating, and he was a little behind receivers on a couple crossing routes, but we'll take that from him every game. I can't recall a single bonehead throw or pass that should have been picked off
He took two bad sacks last night, but otherwise was best player for NYG.
Maybe like Simms and Manning, he has to start his career on bad teams and face the cynicism. Giants way…….:)
it really isnt very hard. and it is why the archaic hires and schemes of the giants from 1985-- are so frustrating because the solutions to put people in position to succeed are so obvious.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
But it is amazing how well he played when he was not on his back.
LOL he was 20-25 at one point. I guess you're looking for 25-25?
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
The simple answer to how can you ignore those four games is…. Look at the rest of the games. Heinicke threw for 340 last night is Mahomes or Brady too?
Jones was good not great last night, but to act like this game somehow proves the doubters wrong is comical. Let’s see some consistent play like last night before you start running the Jones victory lap.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
Imagine if they could do that AND have a little bit of a running game?
Ohhh boy. We can just wish.
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
Again, I don't expect people to be convinced of anything yet (I'm not either for the record), but if you don't think he played really well last night than i'm not sure what game you watched.
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
WFT was 4th in D last year
Be smarter.
Again, I don't expect people to be convinced of anything yet (I'm not either for the record), but if you don't think he played really well last night than i'm not sure what game you watched.
The first half had me worried cause he staring down WRs again, not taking any shots down field and I thought a few of the sacks were him holding the ball too long.
But the second half he was completely different and even looked different. he played with much more confidence.
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
WFT was 4th in D last year
Be smarter.
Last year isn’t this year. Their secondary has looked atrocious through two weeks
Again, I don't expect people to be convinced of anything yet (I'm not either for the record), but if you don't think he played really well last night than i'm not sure what game you watched.
UConn, it's times like these that any ignore feature would short circuit from an overload of use.
Agree 100% - Even how great the read option was - if Garrett had sprinkled a pass option after Jones kept it after a fake - it probably would have worked. Two straight runs by Barkley was just demoralizing.
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
WFT was 4th in D last year
Be smarter.
Last year isn’t this year. Their secondary has looked atrocious through two weeks
Please stop. You’re embarrassing. All we heard before the game was how good WFT D was. Now they suck because DJ had a good game.
We don’t make teams pay — 5 fg’s means 5 times we couldn’t score TD’s as well….. Especially after the Bradberry INT… Maybe it was Garrett but that finish was weak, and basically a summation of the tease that is Daniel Jones. “Close” and “almost”…
I’m more encouraged by the oline…
Enough with the moral victories. Fucking win the games.
Jones last night displayed the special talent he is. Your take would indicate you don’t have an objective bone in your body where he is concerned
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
WFT was 4th in D last year
Be smarter.
Last year isn’t this year. Their secondary has looked atrocious through two weeks
Please stop. You’re embarrassing. All we heard before the game was how good WFT D was. Now they suck because DJ had a good game.
Saying their defensive rating from last year is irrelevant because their secondary has been bad so far is embarrassing? Ok buddy, don’t forget to change out of your Daniel Jones pajamas before you go to school.
Running the RPO keeps defenses back on their heels a bit. It provides us with more options. IMO, that run play to Barkley after the Bradberry INT should have been a fake to him with an RPO roll out. That play continues to run the clock and it gets a guy who can run out in open space.
We are keeping him in a cage when we do not let him run. Imagine what Lamar Jackson's game would look like if they just forced him to stay in the pocket. Here we are comparing Jone's ability to run (Or really his speed) to that of Jackson, yet we are not taking advantage of it the way Baltimore is.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Do you want to point to 4 games and let us point out 20 bad ones, or do you want to enjoy the fact that everyone seems to be acknowledging that Jones played well last night?
If he played like that consistently, we wouldn't be having these conversations. You know, like Brady and Mahomes do.
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When it matters most he can’t seem to get it done. I seriously question if he has a clutch bone in his body because it’s one thing to flash as a QB for even a vast majority of a game, but Eli and top QB’s flash as winners with GW drives and stepping on the other teams necks.
We don’t make teams pay — 5 fg’s means 5 times we couldn’t score TD’s as well….. Especially after the Bradberry INT… Maybe it was Garrett but that finish was weak, and basically a summation of the tease that is Daniel Jones. “Close” and “almost”…
I’m more encouraged by the oline…
Enough with the moral victories. Fucking win the games.
Jones last night displayed the special talent he is. Your take would indicate you don’t have an objective bone in your body where he is concerned
Special is a stretch. Jones was good but this wasn’t some cornerstone QB performance. Maybe the bar is just too low.
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
WFT was 4th in D last year
Be smarter.
Last year isn’t this year. Their secondary has looked atrocious through two weeks
Please stop. You’re embarrassing. All we heard before the game was how good WFT D was. Now they suck because DJ had a good game.
Saying their defensive rating from last year is irrelevant because their secondary has been bad so far is embarrassing? Ok buddy, don’t forget
to change out of your Daniel Jones pajamas before you go to school.
If you’re here to bust on the QB after last bites game, then that shows all we need to know about you. And what is this thing about busting Giant fans balls from other Giants fans for being a supporter of a Giant player? It’s really weird. Like I get an Eagle fan would say that, but another Giant fan? Weird to say the least.
I wish they went back to the rpo late in the game, and I wish he was more accurate throwing on the run. Seems like this is a weakness for him (ie, the Shepherd throw/catch on the sidelines).
I had all but given up hope in him, but last night was restorative.
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The Danny haters are so blind it isn’t even worth my time to converse with you guys. But, I still need to vent after that gut wrenching loss so here goes…
WOW. Hot take. Umm WFT was 4th in D last year.
Be smarter.
Danny had I believe 4 games in his rookie season under Shurmur in which he threw for >300 yards, 3 or 4 Tds (I forgot which), and no interceptions.
He is the only rookie to accomplish that feat. Do you not think he was pretty amazing those 4 games? So how could you ignore those 4 games?
>300 yards, 3/4 TD passes, no pics……sounds like Mahomes or Brady
Yes, he established that he can play well against garbage teams. Hooray.
WFT was 4th in D last year
Be smarter.
Last year isn’t this year. Their secondary has looked atrocious through two weeks
Please stop. You’re embarrassing. All we heard before the game was how good WFT D was. Now they suck because DJ had a good game.
Saying their defensive rating from last year is irrelevant because their secondary has been bad so far is embarrassing? Ok buddy, don’t forget
to change out of your Daniel Jones pajamas before you go to school.
If you’re here to bust on the QB after last bites game, then that shows all we need to know about you. And what is this thing about busting Giant fans balls from other Giants fans for being a supporter of a Giant player? It’s really weird. Like I get an Eagle fan would say that, but another Giant fan? Weird to say the least.
Can you not read the dozens of times I’ve said Jones played good last night? Simply pointing out Washington’s defensive ranking last year is irrelevant because they’ve been bad in the secondary two straight weeks is sending you into a tizzy.
What this Jones performance means depends on two things:
1) can he do it more often than not this season
2) how does Washington’s defense play the rest of the year
If the answers end up being “no” and “like last night” than this performance was an aberration