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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2021 10:03 am
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That was the game  
mattlawson : 9/17/2021 10:03 am : link
All there is to it.
Unreal  
GiantAce : 9/17/2021 10:03 am : link
.
Thanks E  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2021 10:04 am : link
While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice in it?
RE: That was the game  
Blue21 : 9/17/2021 10:05 am : link
In comment 15373639 mattlawson said:
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All there is to it.



And we all knew it!
RE: Thanks E  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2021 10:05 am : link
In comment 15373643 Greg from LI said:
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While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice in it?


Mrs. BBI went to bed early.

She asked me this morning, "what happened?"

That was a fun conversation.
I don't know how it's possible to overthrow that  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2021 10:05 am : link
Slayton has so much downfield speed.
On the one hand,  
M.S. : 9/17/2021 10:06 am : link

I feel Slayton just has to make that catch.

On the other hand, it would have been a very difficult catch of a ball thrown beyond him.

But to have a guy wide open like that, and zilch.

Oh, well, bad things happen to bad teams.

Wash-Rinse-Repeat

Giants Football  
St. Jimmy : 9/17/2021 10:07 am : link
It is always something.
I think  
crick n NC : 9/17/2021 10:07 am : link
Jones and Slayton were working together to miss the play on purpose so that fans could debate endlessly if the pass was overthrown, if it was a drop, or a little of both.
Gotta catch that.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/17/2021 10:08 am : link
.
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Banks : 9/17/2021 10:08 am : link
reminds me of the Engram drop against the eagles. It wasn't a good throw, but it hit his hands. This game was a heart breaker
RE: I don't know how it's possible to overthrow that  
bigblue5611 : 9/17/2021 10:08 am : link
In comment 15373653 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Slayton has so much downfield speed.


"You serious, Clark?" Pass rush in his face, makes a throw downfield that hits the receiver IN HIS HANDS. That's way more on Slayton than it is on Jones.
can't even blame either guy  
hitdog42 : 9/17/2021 10:10 am : link
slayton could have caught it. it was not an easy catch- it was a good throw in the circumstance-
i dont even feel like i can get mad at anyone there other then the result.
both guys gave max effort
given  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2021 10:10 am : link
the pass rush in his face, that was a damn good throw.
You have to make that play !!!  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/17/2021 10:12 am : link
.
I still  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2021 10:13 am : link
don't put this game on the offense.

The defense simply could not hold any lead in this game, whether it was 7 points (first half), 6 or 3 points (practically the entire game).

You give up 30 points and 400 yards to Washington?
Slayton is so inconsistent  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/17/2021 10:14 am : link
...it seems if he has time to think about catching the ball he will muff it.

Also I haven't watched the replay but other posters pointed out that he didn't start to run hard until he realized Jones had passed to him.

That's why you ball out every play, even if you are the 3rd or 4th option.
I do feel bad for Slayton  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2021 10:14 am : link
That was a tough catch. One he probably should make, but it wasn't routine at all.
RE: RE: I don't know how it's possible to overthrow that  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15373665 bigblue5611 said:
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Slayton has so much downfield speed.



"You serious, Clark?" Pass rush in his face, makes a throw downfield that hits the receiver IN HIS HANDS. That's way more on Slayton than it is on Jones.


You've got a photo right there showing you it got his fingertips.

Especially with pressure in his face, I'm surprised Jones got that much on it to overthrow a speed WR going full-steam.
RE: I still  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2021 10:15 am : link
In comment 15373691 Eric from BBI said:
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don't put this game on the offense.

The defense simply could not hold any lead in this game, whether it was 7 points (first half), 6 or 3 points (practically the entire game).

You give up 30 points and 400 yards to Washington?


If you score 29 pts in an NFL game you've done plenty to win. The defense was horrid
RE: I still  
crick n NC : 9/17/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15373691 Eric from BBI said:
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don't put this game on the offense.

The defense simply could not hold any lead in this game, whether it was 7 points (first half), 6 or 3 points (practically the entire game).

You give up 30 points and 400 yards to Washington?


You're right, unfortunately for the defense, they did get a stop at a crucial time in the game that was not taken advantage of fully. When one unit makes something happen, another unit can't make a play or has a costly miscue.
RE: I still  
HMunster : 9/17/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15373691 Eric from BBI said:
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don't put this game on the offense.

The defense simply could not hold any lead in this game, whether it was 7 points (first half), 6 or 3 points (practically the entire game).

You give up 30 points and 400 yards to Washington?

Agreed. You shouldn't have to score 30+ points to win, especially not against Washington.
RE: RE: Thanks E  
Silver Spoon : 9/17/2021 10:17 am : link
In comment 15373651 Eric from BBI said:
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While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice in it?



Mrs. BBI went to bed early.

She asked me this morning, "what happened?"

That was a fun conversation.


Was it really that bad? I’ve been a fan for 40 years, and I admit, a loss like last night a few years ago would have made me mental. Last night, like so many over the past few years, I said Ehhh and rolled right over in my bed.
Engram on the sideline  
ghost718 : 9/17/2021 10:21 am : link
"He got that from me"

"That's my boy right there"

Joe Judge - "Didn't that happen last year? yeah it did,Hey way to go Slayt! That's tough,smart,fundamentally sound football"
RE: RE: RE: I don't know how it's possible to overthrow that  
DanBenton : 9/17/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15373694 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Slayton has so much downfield speed.



"You serious, Clark?" Pass rush in his face, makes a throw downfield that hits the receiver IN HIS HANDS. That's way more on Slayton than it is on Jones.



You've got a photo right there showing you it got his fingertips.

Especially with pressure in his face, I'm surprised Jones got that much on it to overthrow a speed WR going full-steam.


Honestly, if this is going to be the absurd argument then maybe we should also criticize Slayton for not getting full arm extension. He's got an inch or two more he could reach out. I mean, it's right there in the picture.
RE: That was the game  
jvm52106 : 9/17/2021 10:28 am : link
In comment 15373639 mattlawson said:
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All there is to it.


No, though it did hurt.. We still had them late. Judge went into a shell- playing clock when down fistance, momentum etc. all screamed play to get that first down or td and the game is yours..
He busted his ass to get to that ball  
State Your Name : 9/17/2021 10:28 am : link
But in the end was overthrown by about 1/4”
RE: I still  
Dr. D : 9/17/2021 10:29 am : link
In comment 15373691 Eric from BBI said:
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don't put this game on the offense.

The defense simply could not hold any lead in this game, whether it was 7 points (first half), 6 or 3 points (practically the entire game).

You give up 30 points and 400 yards to Washington?

Exactly.
RE: Thanks E  
mfsd : 9/17/2021 10:31 am : link
In comment 15373643 Greg from LI said:
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While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice in it?


While forcing me to listen to Michael Bolton's entire catalogue on repeat all day
RE: can't even blame either guy  
Section331 : 9/17/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15373676 hitdog42 said:
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slayton could have caught it. it was not an easy catch- it was a good throw in the circumstance-
i dont even feel like i can get mad at anyone there other then the result.
both guys gave max effort


That's how I saw it. A terrific throw given the rusher in DJ's face, but it would have been a really good catch, but it's a play good teams make.
RE: Thanks E  
Jints in Carolina : 9/17/2021 10:33 am : link
In comment 15373643 Greg from LI said:
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While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice in it?


Have fun storming the castle!
Only complaint  
JonC : 9/17/2021 10:33 am : link
is Slayton needs to be running full tilt throughout the route, not hit the gas after the pass is released and he realizes it's gonna be a bit long. If he runs throughout the route, he's there for an easier catch. Young player bad habit.
RE: given  
M.S. : 9/17/2021 10:33 am : link
In comment 15373678 Eric from BBI said:
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the pass rush in his face, that was a damn good throw.

Absolutely. I think he took a pretty good shot after releasing the ball.
RE: Only complaint  
crick n NC : 9/17/2021 10:34 am : link
In comment 15373772 JonC said:
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is Slayton needs to be running full tilt throughout the route, not hit the gas after the pass is released and he realizes it's gonna be a bit long. If he runs throughout the route, he's there for an easier catch. Young player bad habit.


Excellent point Jon that I think a lot of us layman fans don't think of.
Slayton had a mediocre game. I just saw that one again and he  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2021 10:34 am : link
misplayed it. He could have gotten two hands on it. It went off fingertips because he had his hands in wrong spot. Not an easy one but still. He also couldn’t get two feet down on a play we see routinely in the NFL.
and yes, this loss is on the defense  
JonC : 9/17/2021 10:35 am : link
they mostly stunk including Graham. They simply cannot get stops when they need them most, and the caliber of the offense isn't even a factor. That's why you see opposing offenses smiling and having a laugh, because they're eating NYG's lunch out there.
The picture is misleading...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/17/2021 10:35 am : link
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It was a Great pass... - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't know how it's possible to overthrow that  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2021 10:36 am : link
In comment 15373728 DanBenton said:
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Slayton has so much downfield speed.



"You serious, Clark?" Pass rush in his face, makes a throw downfield that hits the receiver IN HIS HANDS. That's way more on Slayton than it is on Jones.



You've got a photo right there showing you it got his fingertips.

Especially with pressure in his face, I'm surprised Jones got that much on it to overthrow a speed WR going full-steam.



Honestly, if this is going to be the absurd argument then maybe we should also criticize Slayton for not getting full arm extension. He's got an inch or two more he could reach out. I mean, it's right there in the picture.


What's absurd about that, honestly? I don't think we're taking into account the difficulty of some of these athletic plays we take for granted from the couch.

Also, why are we taking everything so personally? It was a throw under pressure. It wasn't a perfect throw. And that's okay. I'm just happy they even attempted that play.

If you want to see an example of a perfect drop in the bucket, it's the manningham superbowl catch. That hit Mario in the palms.
RE: I do feel bad for Slayton  
bw in dc : 9/17/2021 10:38 am : link
In comment 15373693 Greg from LI said:
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That was a tough catch. One he probably should make, but it wasn't routine at all.


Good point. It was a good throw under pressure and a good effort by Slayton, who probably was in those unusual situations where the catch probability was 50/50...
RE: RE: Thanks E  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2021 10:41 am : link
In comment 15373761 mfsd said:
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In comment 15373643 Greg from LI said:


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While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice in it?



While forcing me to listen to Michael Bolton's entire catalogue on repeat all day


Wait for it!

It was a damn good throw  
Bear vs Shark : 9/17/2021 10:46 am : link
Slayton needs to come down with that
Pass was plenty good  
JonC : 9/17/2021 10:50 am : link
Slayton needs to go get it and bring it in. RUN!
RE: The picture is misleading...  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/17/2021 10:51 am : link
In comment 15373786 Brown_Hornet said:
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... It was a Great pass... - ( New Window )


Thank you. You see that catch made in the NFL all the time. The drops are noteworthy because they are the rarity.
LOL  
BleedBlue : 9/17/2021 10:54 am : link
people are actually putting blame on jones? talk about an agenda. it was a drop plain and simple. he was wide open, jones delivered a catchable football with plenty of air under it. we have seen players catch way more difficult balls than this. its laughable that anyone doesnt want to kick slayton in his nuts this morning. he clearly dropped it and it killed us. a TD there puts us up 10 is a huge momentum swing, and deflates he skins imo
RE: Pass was plenty good  
jvm52106 : 9/17/2021 10:54 am : link
In comment 15373855 JonC said:
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Slayton needs to go get it and bring it in. RUN!


Speaking of running through- Azeez Oljulari has a horrible habit of stopping in his rush or even out in space and then trying to go again. I saw it multiple times. Young guy or not, he stopped his rush often and then looked to go again but was basically just standing there..

Also, my biggest fear with Leonard Williams is the contract, he now has it and suddenly isn't playing like last year.

RE: LOL  
Bear vs Shark : 9/17/2021 10:55 am : link
In comment 15373870 BleedBlue said:
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people are actually putting blame on jones? talk about an agenda. it was a drop plain and simple. he was wide open, jones delivered a catchable football with plenty of air under it. we have seen players catch way more difficult balls than this. its laughable that anyone doesnt want to kick slayton in his nuts this morning. he clearly dropped it and it killed us. a TD there puts us up 10 is a huge momentum swing, and deflates he skins imo
I've been very sour on Jones and I still don't think he's a franchise QB (a few more games like last night and against teams that aren't Washington will change my mind).

But it's incomprehensible to lay the blame at his feet last night.

That was probably the second best game I've ever seen him play (better than his 5 TD game against Washington) -- I'd maybe only put his debut against Tampa above it -- and he really shoulders none of the blame for this loss.

He played great and showed moxie, I hope we keep seeing it and I hope he shuts me the fuck up and makes me look like an idiot for doubting him.

I usually think it's really stupid when people call out Jones detractors for having an "agenda" but in this situation, this morning, after this game, I totally agree with you.
There are WRs that make that play  
Enzo : 9/17/2021 11:12 am : link
and there's QBs that make a better throw in that spot. Maybe a better ofensive line gives Jones time to make a more accurate throw? Maybe we need better players?
good teams overcome misses  
djm : 9/17/2021 11:17 am : link
we have little to no margin for error, thanks to the shit show defense.

This D was supposed to be good. Maybe even very good. Shit some in that building probably expected great. And it's been bad.

The good teams overcome a few drops. This is a just another normal loss for a normally bad team. Don't overstate the closeness of it. We need to accept that this is a bad team that needs to play nearly perfect to beat a mediocre at best opponent.

Someone said it was fun to watch. Really? Uh, no it wasn't. Giant defense is supposed to be the strength in these parts. Instead it's the weakness. That's awful. Fun to watch my ass.
you know what's fun to watch?  
djm : 9/17/2021 11:18 am : link
20-10 NYG win. 23-17 win. God forbid 17-14. That's fun. Then watch the fans bitch because the team is winning ugly, like 2016. We should be so fucking lucky. Where the fuck do I sign up for a 2016 run again. I'd smile throughout the entire playoff loss.
You could feel that this would cost us  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/17/2021 11:23 am : link
Just brutal. Jones’ throw could’ve been a little better but Slayton needs to come down with that.
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