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What is this version of NYG made of?

ryanmkeane : 9/17/2021 12:20 pm
Lots of teams go through bad losses. We've had a shitload of them the past 6 years or so. I guess my question is - what are the Joe Judge NYG made of? Do we respond to this in any shape or form (i.e. at Washington win in 2007 in week 3) or do they clam up/fold and basically call it a season after 3 games?

The worst part of last night was that everything we've been complaining about was actually happening in reverse (Jones looking very good, OL protecting well, play calling was going very well...run game was pretty poor but at least it was better....) and then - the defense can't get off the field and we get conservative and play not to lose. When the whole game we had been playing to win it with the aggressiveness. What the actual fuck?

Overall point being: the season is NOT over, but it could be, in short order. I am very shocked that they took the ball out of Jones' hands last night. That's a way to lose a team.
It’s over  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2021 12:23 pm : link
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I get the feeling  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/17/2021 12:26 pm : link
they don't trust Jones yet in a situation like that. The running play with Barkley, while low percentage, are safe from a turnover perspective.

You won't win playing that conservative IMO. I said it before, the organization is fine with losing. It's HOW they lose that matters more. They don't want their much maligned young QB put in a big moment, on a national stage, with a chance to fumble. That makes them look bad.
"What is this version of NYG made of?"  
M.S. : 9/17/2021 12:27 pm : link

Do we want to keep this PG rated?

Since 2017 they have the worst record in pro football. And last night proved exactly why.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2021 12:31 pm : link
if I’m Jones I’m legitimately mad/pissed off today that the coaches did that to him
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ajr2456 : 9/17/2021 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15374195 ryanmkeane said:
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if I’m Jones I’m legitimately mad/pissed off today that the coaches did that to him


If they did it because they don’t trust him yet that’s partially on him.
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SirLoinOfBeef : 9/17/2021 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15374195 ryanmkeane said:
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if I’m Jones I’m legitimately mad/pissed off today that the coaches did that to him


I fear those decisions are made by folks in higher places...
The good news is we have ten days off...  
bw in dc : 9/17/2021 12:39 pm : link
and ATL is coming to town next. And they looked horrible last Sunday at home against Philly.

So there is a chance to get a much needed W on the board right away after such a devastating loss.

I think it would be really perilous if the next game was against the Chiefs, Seattle, Rams, etc.
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SirLoinOfBeef : 9/17/2021 12:41 pm : link
In comment 15374206 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 15374195 ryanmkeane said:


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if I’m Jones I’m legitimately mad/pissed off today that the coaches did that to him



If they did it because they don’t trust him yet that’s partially on him.


It is.
We saw what it's made of last night  
Go Terps : 9/17/2021 12:47 pm : link
Like its predecessors it finds ways to lose.
RE: Conservative Approach Near the End of the Game  
Jim in Tampa : 9/17/2021 12:57 pm : link
I was begging them (via my TV screen) to pass the ball on 2nd down in that situation, but I think a good number of NFL HCs would have played it exactly the same way that Judge did.

Although Jones was having a good game, in that situation a HC has to consider that his team needed to get at least a FG and his QB has a history of turning the ball over in the red zone.

Remmber that Jones fumbled at the Bronco 11 last week in a key moment. And although the game didn't count, Jones also threw a bizarre INT in the end zone against the Pats the week prior to that..

Again, I would have passed the ball on 2nd down and again on 3rd dwon if necessary, but I think that many NFL HCs would have played it conservatively, like Judge did. Run, run, pass and then (if necessary) kick the go ahead FG. Then worry about stoping them on D.
Paper mache.  
Red Dog : 9/17/2021 1:29 pm : link
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You think taking the ball out of Jones's hands loses the team?  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/17/2021 1:32 pm : link
What about when Jones takes the ball out of his own hands like he has 40 times in his career?

If the team has stuck with him so far, I'm sure they can somehow make this one work.
Jim in Tampa  
BillT : 9/17/2021 1:34 pm : link
I think it’s first down you pass. You show them run and then pass. Or you show them pass and then run. But you don’t show then run and then run which they did twice.
They're made of mediocre football players  
Jerry in_DC : 9/17/2021 2:48 pm : link
shaped into a poor roster, assembled by an impulsive moron.

If we're inquiring about their mentality? The. Perhaps they "tough it out" and "scrap and battle" themselves to 6 wins. Or maybe they fold like expensive suits and rack up 14 losses.

I don't think it matters much. Nobody on this roster has done anything meaningful or memorable for the Giants. Few, if any, ever will
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