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Jones' Speed

rocco8112 : 9/17/2021 1:47 pm
Seriously, how fast is this guy? On the TD run called back he hit full afterburners and it is like he is shot out of a cannon.

The run where he fell last year was like that too, from the living room he looks like one of the fastest guys in the league when he gets moving.

Jones also plays better when he runs, this should become an integral part of his game and offense, risk is he will get hurt, but the Giants have the worst winning percentage in the NFL since 2017 and are 0 - 2 to start for the 5th year in a row. It's panic all hands on deck time. Spread it out and use the RPO zone read and designed runs for DJ. He becomes a better passer too when he runs and even the o line got it going a bit and actually had some consistent pass pro.

It is now or never.

It pains me to say it, but the Giants have not been able to line up and power run it for a decade now and there is no sign of being able to anytime soon. Last night after the INT, Judge called two futile runs attacking A or B gap with the basically useless Barkley that had all the power and use of a flaccid prick. I don't have too much of a problem with running there to have Washington burn TO's, but why in crunch time call plays emphasizing what the team does worst, which is power run, and I dont want to hammer the guy since he is coming off an injury, but so far Barkley brings nothing and he is on the fast track to being a bust.


Anyway, Jones really is fast.


He should carry it 10 times per game.  
endwerc : 9/17/2021 1:48 pm : link
Who cares if he gets hurt, we aren't winning with him healthy, anyway.
I think he reached 19.8 mph  
CMicks3110 : 9/17/2021 1:50 pm : link
According to nextgen stats. Barkley hit 20.4 on his run.
He is like Forest Gump  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/17/2021 1:57 pm : link
at Alabama. Just leaves people in the dust.
Yeah I think it looked like he was in aftergear because it was LBers  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2021 1:58 pm : link
and safeties. But when your QB is running read option and the WRs are blocking well, thats who its going to be. I honestly thought he did a real good job of protecting himself for the most part and literally goes 1950s style anytime he's near contact. Don't get why Aikman was bitching about him going down on second short of the sticks. Like, dude it's a long season.
RE: He should carry it 10 times per game.  
EricJ : 9/17/2021 1:58 pm : link
In comment 15374402 endwerc said:
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Who cares if he gets hurt, we aren't winning with him healthy, anyway.


No you have that wrong. It should say.. "we aren't winning with him without his running ability".
Every time Jints are in the Red zone  
ChicagoMarty : 9/17/2021 1:58 pm : link
it should be mandatory that Jones roll out with the option to throw.

Period
RE: Every time Jints are in the Red zone  
rocco8112 : 9/17/2021 2:01 pm : link
In comment 15374430 ChicagoMarty said:
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it should be mandatory that Jones roll out with the option to throw.

Period



yes, emphasize this part of his game, also agree he should give himself up, even do the weak ass leg first slide. If a defender even breathes on him, may draw 15.

But use that speed and threat he gets to the edge etc.
.......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/17/2021 2:30 pm : link
His called back TD run reminded me of plaxico.

Doesn't look like he's moving fast - just a long strider combined with how smooth he looks running
RE: He should carry it 10 times per game.  
UConn4523 : 9/17/2021 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15374402 endwerc said:
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Who cares if he gets hurt, we aren't winning with him healthy, anyway.


Completely untrue. He’s better and we are better when he runs and it outweighs the injury risk since him winning is predicated on his ability to run.
Jones 19.08 vs Barkley 20.04.  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/17/2021 3:39 pm : link
Both are crazy fast impressive, but before I make a decision I want to see their respective miles per gallon numbers.
didn't the Dead do a song about him?  
Del Shofner : 9/17/2021 3:42 pm : link
Playing that game
High on cocaine
Daniel Jones you better
Watch your speed

Trouble ahead
Trouble behind
And you know you better
Just cross that line
RE: RE: He should carry it 10 times per game.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2021 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15374493 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15374402 endwerc said:


Quote:


Who cares if he gets hurt, we aren't winning with him healthy, anyway.



Completely untrue. He’s better and we are better when he runs and it outweighs the injury risk since him winning is predicated on his ability to run.


Yep, we have to run with him because it opens up so much based on how bad the line is. They literally can't run blcok and the pass pro is so-so. Plus while Barkley wasn't good yesterday, teams are clearly scared shitless of him because they didn't respect DJ on those reads. If DJ makes the right reads, protects himself, and we don't run it more than 6-7 times a game he'll stay healthy. It's not the type of play your QB gets rolled up on unless they are totally ready for it and the QB is fighting for extra yards.
Maybe it is an illusion  
rocco8112 : 9/17/2021 3:52 pm : link
but he looks fast.
RE: Every time Jints are in the Red zone  
LS : 9/17/2021 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15374430 ChicagoMarty said:
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it should be mandatory that Jones roll out with the option to throw.

Period


And every time they are trying to salt a game away.
RE: Maybe it is an illusion  
NINEster : 9/17/2021 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15374628 rocco8112 said:
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but he looks fast.


He's impressively fast.

He's somewhere between the old guard straight line fast guys like Vick, RG3, Kaepernick, and the pretty fast guys like Alex Smith, Ryan Tannehill.

Steve Young, tough one there. I think Young had better acceleration, but not sure about top speed.

I would absolutely say he is faster than Russell Wilson now, and maybe even prime Wilson. Straight line?

For sure.
RE: didn't the Dead do a song about him?  
SteelGiant : 9/17/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15374619 Del Shofner said:
Quote:
Playing that game
High on cocaine
Daniel Jones you better
Watch your speed

Trouble ahead
Trouble behind
And you know you better
Just cross that line


I appreciated this
RE: RE: didn't the Dead do a song about him?  
SteelGiant : 9/17/2021 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15374919 SteelGiant said:
Quote:
In comment 15374619 Del Shofner said:


Quote:


Playing that game
High on cocaine
Daniel Jones you better
Watch your speed

Trouble ahead
Trouble behind
And you know you better
Just cross that line



I appreciated this


I should be octane instead of cocaine
I thought the same thing watching him at Duke.  
BigBlueNH : 9/17/2021 8:35 pm : link
When he tucked it and ran, he would consistently outrun defenders. He's still doing it in the pros. We need him to do it 8-10 times/game to keep the D honest, open things up for SB, and hopefully break a couple long ones each game. We haven't had that feature in our O since Fran Tarkenton.
On Jones' TD run,  
BigBlueNH : 9/17/2021 9:26 pm : link
WFT had a defender right in the middle who was shadowing Jones. But Jones moved fast, made a fast cut and dove right by him. I think that defender brings down most QBs.
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