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ImThatGuy : 9/17/2021 1:49 pm
Alright - I'm going to be a glass half-full guy because, why not.

- I actually thought protection was serviceable both games (run blocking is a different story). WAS Def front is top-5 in the league
- DJ looked good and in neither game was he the reason we lost. Yes the fumble sucked, but our Defense couldn't get off the field either. Add in what he can do with his legs and we'll be ok here
- Defense is somewhat of a headscratcher but I think they can right the ship. I can handle losing to a guy like McLaurin, he's a beast WR and if he goes off so be it. But when guys like McKissic and Seals-Jones beat you that's what I hate. That was like 3 plays that helped determine the game. Graham is going to start bringing the pressure (at least he better) and the defense will come together

Last night I was throwing my laptop but today I'm more level headed. This team has been in the dumpster fire 5 years so we can only go up from here, right?
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broadbandz : 9/17/2021 1:50 pm : link
100 percent bro; arrow is pointing up. Dont sleep on this team.
4 sacks  
Joey in VA : 9/17/2021 1:51 pm : link
Isn't playing well enough. It can get worse when the team tunes out Judge and they simply go through the motions like they did with McAdoo. It will get uglier.
I Think Losing Beef Along the Defensive Line  
OntheRoad : 9/17/2021 1:52 pm : link

has not helped. Hill and Tomlinson were pretty stout. Not sure the replacements are quite there yet.
Terrible post.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/17/2021 1:52 pm : link
Just because we've been terrible for 5 years means things are going to get magically better?

Sure.
Sacks don't matter as much when you put up chunk yardage  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2021 1:54 pm : link
This team put up right around 30 and without the sloppiness (looking at the unbelievable penalty coming out of a timeout and a questionable hold and big drop by Slayton) could have touched 40.

Graham and Judge need to figure it out, here's to hoping they can. I'm not lost on the season yet, but if they lose to the Falcons, this team has the potential to explode. These guys are going to see the same shit we did on film next week and are going to question him not letting them, on the field, try to win the game.
RELAX…  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/17/2021 1:54 pm : link
…that is the appropriate message. And I’d add, depending on where you’re at with this, lower your expectations 😂
1....5......------......3......5  
bceagle05 : 9/17/2021 1:55 pm : link
I admire the sentiment, but every NFL team has some good players and a couple of reasons for optimism. I try to cling to them as well but we have a long way to go here.
RE: Terrible post.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2021 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15374413 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Just because we've been terrible for 5 years means things are going to get magically better?

Sure.


Well the coaching has potential to certainly get better and the biggest reason we lost yesterday. IF they can learn from their mistakes on a long week, the season will be just fine. It wasn't the players.
Jones looked good  
rocco8112 : 9/17/2021 1:55 pm : link
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Route 9 : 9/17/2021 1:56 pm : link
Hello. Great point.

Fuck off.
Great post  
dee-fense : 9/17/2021 1:56 pm : link
We are fans and should be doing this because it's fun. We will win and we will lose. Better learn to enjoy the ride or why bother IMHO..and I was devastated last night!!!...today time to find the pleasure in the process...works for me as not many teams sport 4 Lombardis over last 35 years....my 2 cents
I was more encouraged than discouraged last night.  
Section331 : 9/17/2021 1:57 pm : link
The offense has been the primary concern, and it played very well overall. The D's poor play is concerning, but they have too much talent to not improve.
Looking forward to the rest of the season...  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/17/2021 2:07 pm : link
The offense has played decently and will improve, and I think the defense will get back on track. The extra time before game 3 should help integrate the walking wounded from training camp, as well as the new OL players, and keep the team improving. The wins will start coming sooner, than later, in my opinion.
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Route 9 : 9/17/2021 2:17 pm : link
Lol. Encouraged? By what? They lost again in the same stupid fashion. Sloppy football. Same old shit. Shooting themselves in the foot. Dumb penalties. Bad coaching. Washington was begging to lose this game and with a backup QB on top of all that.

I swear just when you think people will absorb any type of common sense, I read these posts. They're a good laugh but nothing will ever top that Evan Engram (lol) might one day be Tony Gonzalez or Jason witten.

You'll all buy anything this hot trash team will sell you, including maggot ketchup sandwiches.
That works  
Thegratefulhead : 9/17/2021 2:19 pm : link
When you have a QB that can win games on the talent in his arm. Touchdowns, not field goals please.
bless your soul  
mphbullet36 : 9/17/2021 2:21 pm : link
how can any people watch the first two games and think the arrow is pointing up???
RE: bless your soul  
Route 9 : 9/17/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15374477 mphbullet36 said:
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how can any people watch the first two games and think the arrow is pointing up???


It's not hard to exploit people and convince them their bullshit is going to work.
RE: RE: Terrible post.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/17/2021 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15374418 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Just because we've been terrible for 5 years means things are going to get magically better?

Sure.



Well the coaching has potential to certainly get better and the biggest reason we lost yesterday. IF they can learn from their mistakes on a long week, the season will be just fine. It wasn't the players.


Yeap. Any fucking year now. What nonsense.
RE: ......  
joeinpa : 9/17/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15374464 Route 9 said:
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Lol. Encouraged? By what? They lost again in the same stupid fashion. Sloppy football. Same old shit. Shooting themselves in the foot. Dumb penalties. Bad coaching. Washington was begging to lose this game and with a backup QB on top of all that.

I swear just when you think people will absorb any type of common sense, I read these posts. They're a good laugh but nothing will ever top that Evan Engram (lol) might one day be Tony Gonzalez or Jason witten.

You'll all buy anything this hot trash team will sell you, including maggot ketchup sandwiches.


Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.
It's very easy to be optimistic  
Mike from Ohio : 9/17/2021 2:27 pm : link
when you have the ability to tell yourself everything will just get better because you want it to. I wish I had the ability to do that. Unfortunately I am analytical and I use facts, experience and logic to set expectations.
when will some realize  
mphbullet36 : 9/17/2021 2:27 pm : link
the first 3 games of the schedule were probably the easiest part of it. The talent only gets better.

We played Teddy Bridgewater and Taylor Heinicke and lost. What happens when we start played Brady/Dak/Mahomes ect...
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Route 9 : 9/17/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15374484 joeinpa said:
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Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.


Because it's sad to see people who are cheery in connection with a group of losers. It's like a "come on, you should know better"
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bigblue5611 : 9/17/2021 2:39 pm : link
In comment 15374490 Route 9 said:
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Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.



Because it's sad to see people who are cheery in connection with a group of losers. It's like a "come on, you should know better"


To reiterate joeinpa's comments, again, why do you care? Do you feel compelled to drag others down with you? Is life that miserable? It's football, it blows to lose the way the Giants have in these 2 games as well as most of the past decade. However, if people want to see the positives and have optimism for the future, then why do you feel the need to comment and get them to be as miserable as you seem to be in your posts?
I think they beat Atlanta at home  
nygiants16 : 9/17/2021 2:41 pm : link
Saints i dont think are as good as they looked against the Packers and i dont think the eagles are as good as they looked..

I was encouraged by last night even in a loss and moral victories suck but i saw positives..

Now if they lose at home to atlanta, all hell is going to break loose
RE: It's very easy to be optimistic  
ImThatGuy : 9/17/2021 2:41 pm : link
In comment 15374486 Mike from Ohio said:
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when you have the ability to tell yourself everything will just get better because you want it to. I wish I had the ability to do that. Unfortunately I am analytical and I use facts, experience and logic to set expectations.


I get all of that too, I look at our stats, facts, team, history and everything else. But I'm putting more on coaching than players executing.

Maybe as a fan its just better to be happy/optimistic for 6 days and disappointed for 1 day - then to be gloom & doom 7 days a week.
Washington is a below ave  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/17/2021 2:51 pm : link
Team… we even beat them 5 times in a row until now.

This team reeks of failure for 5 years now!

5 straight years at 0-2?
RE: RE: RE: ......  
joeinpa : 9/17/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15374490 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15374484 joeinpa said:


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Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.



Because it's sad to see people who are cheery in connection with a group of losers. It's like a "come on, you should know better"


Ok, if that s how you feel. But, I m one of those that likes to stay involved in a season by hoping for the best, which requires me to be optimistic. As a result I often do not agree with your takes here, I read them, because I like to hear opinions of other Giants fans, but they don’t make me sad.

I enjoy the back and forth banter I try to never make it personal, I find it makes Bbi a still enjoyable experience.
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Route 9 : 9/17/2021 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15374510 bigblue5611 said:
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In comment 15374484 joeinpa said:


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Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.



Because it's sad to see people who are cheery in connection with a group of losers. It's like a "come on, you should know better"



To reiterate joeinpa's comments, again, why do you care? Do you feel compelled to drag others down with you? Is life that miserable? It's football, it blows to lose the way the Giants have in these 2 games as well as most of the past decade. However, if people want to see the positives and have optimism for the future, then why do you feel the need to comment and get them to be as miserable as you seem to be in your posts?


Huh? I am keeping it about football here. Saying the team blows you should know better.
Yeah,  
Gman11 : 9/17/2021 2:58 pm : link
things are looking up.

They let Taylor Heinike throw for about 75% and over 300 yards. Plus, they let him put together scoring drives at the end of the first half and the end of the game. That two play "drive" was something to give you reason for optimism too.

As for the offense, keep in mind they got two touchdowns to Washington's three. They couldn't put it in the end zone when they needed to like after Board's penalty. Yeah, it was a WTF moment, but they still only had 20 yards to go. They got stopped at the 5. They couldn't gain any yards after the interception where a first down almost guarantees the win. The penalty and sack that took them out of field goal range was a nice touch too.

Yup, a lot of reasons for optimism.
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bigblue5611 : 9/17/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15374547 Route 9 said:
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Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.



Because it's sad to see people who are cheery in connection with a group of losers. It's like a "come on, you should know better"



To reiterate joeinpa's comments, again, why do you care? Do you feel compelled to drag others down with you? Is life that miserable? It's football, it blows to lose the way the Giants have in these 2 games as well as most of the past decade. However, if people want to see the positives and have optimism for the future, then why do you feel the need to comment and get them to be as miserable as you seem to be in your posts?



Huh? I am keeping it about football here. Saying the team blows you should know better.


You're posting on a thread about football, yes, but why feel the need to be a condescending dick to people? Telling them to "fuck off" for having an optimistic point of view? If you don't share that belief, then fine, I'm sure no one would hold you over the coals for it.

I get it, the team has sucked for a while now and kick to the nuts losses like last night have happened more times than not in the last decade. But if you're that miserable watching, calling the team trash constantly, etc. Then why watch? Why continue to come on the site to just bitch and moan all the time?
I think a lot of you haven't actually looked  
Matt M. : 9/17/2021 3:02 pm : link
at the schedule. There were not a ton of realistic wins to begin with. Dropping the first 2 to teams with a reasonable expectation of us winning is a huge blow.
Remember these guys?  
JohnF : 9/17/2021 3:08 pm : link
I do.


1974 New York Giants. Finished 2-12, but had Craig Morton at QB, and a decent defense. Team had been at best mediocre since 1963, so things had to get better, right? That's what we thought then:

1975: 5-9
1976: 3-11
1977: 5-9
1978: 6-10, topped off by "The Fumble" that finally brought the house down, leading to the NFL assigning George Young as the GM, and the start of brighter days.

Don't think it can't get worst unless we have a competent GM. It can get bad...REALLY bad!
its kinda like this  
ImThatGuy : 9/17/2021 3:20 pm : link


c'mon Giants fans, strap up, long season ahead
RE: Remember these guys?  
compton : 9/17/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15374567 JohnF said:
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I do.


1974 New York Giants. Finished 2-12, but had Craig Morton at QB, and a decent defense. Team had been at best mediocre since 1963, so things had to get better, right? That's what we thought then:

1975: 5-9
1976: 3-11
1977: 5-9
1978: 6-10, topped off by "The Fumble" that finally brought the house down, leading to the NFL assigning George Young as the GM, and the start of brighter days.

Don't think it can't get worst unless we have a competent GM. It can get bad...REALLY bad!


The Giants record the last four seasons are comparable to their record from 1975 - 1978. So they are pretty much at the rock bottom now. Things can't get much worse unless they finish 0 - 17 or 1 - 16.
Oh, yay, it's the yearly RELAX thread.  
BuryMeInBlue : 9/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
What's it been, 3 years straight of relaxing? Almost as good as the "silver lining" threads after a loss, but nowhere near as prolific. Silver lining threads run almost every week, while we only seem to get 1-2 relax threads a year. A bit early, though, aint it?
And, there are 15 games left  
PepperJ52 : 9/17/2021 4:36 pm : link
To play. I didn’t expect to beat Denver and wasn’t going to be shocked if the Giants’ long win streak against WTF (intentional typo) ended because they had to break the streak eventually just as we broke the streaks Dalass and Philthy had going last season. Many knowledgeable sources here predicted it would take a few games for this team to gel and now it looks like the offense is almost there.
15 games to play. That’s a lot of space for the Giants to get on a roll starting next Sunday. Get to 2-2 and it’s a whole new season. Even 1-3 isn’t catastrophic if the Giants win their division and conference games and upset the Rams and maybe a Tampa along the way. As disappointing as last night’s is to think about today, it’s way too early to give up hope.
And, there are 15 games left  
PepperJ52 : 9/17/2021 4:37 pm : link
To play. I didn’t expect to beat Denver and wasn’t going to be shocked if the Giants’ long win streak against WTF (intentional typo) ended because they had to break the streak eventually just as we broke the streaks Dalass and Philthy had going last season. Many knowledgeable sources here predicted it would take a few games for this team to gel and now it looks like the offense is almost there.
15 games to play. That’s a lot of space for the Giants to get on a roll starting next Sunday. Get to 2-2 and it’s a whole new season. Even 1-3 isn’t catastrophic if the Giants win their division and conference games and upset the Rams and maybe a Tampa along the way. As disappointing as last night’s is to think about today, it’s way too early to give up hope.
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Gatorade Dunk : 9/18/2021 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15374484 joeinpa said:
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Lol. Encouraged? By what? They lost again in the same stupid fashion. Sloppy football. Same old shit. Shooting themselves in the foot. Dumb penalties. Bad coaching. Washington was begging to lose this game and with a backup QB on top of all that.

I swear just when you think people will absorb any type of common sense, I read these posts. They're a good laugh but nothing will ever top that Evan Engram (lol) might one day be Tony Gonzalez or Jason witten.

You'll all buy anything this hot trash team will sell you, including maggot ketchup sandwiches.



Why do you care if he is encouraged just a different point of view, It s a better place to be as a fan after 2 games with an entire season in front of you, than where you seem to be.

If this team is as crappy as you profess it to be, there will be plenty of time to be discouraged later.

This is the kind of thinking that sounds like "I don't care if this hamburger might have e.coli, it tastes pretty good right now, and I'll have plenty of time tomorrow to figure out the consequences!"

There is nothing wrong with being optimistic, and also nothing wrong with being realistic. And with yet another 0-2 start, it certainly appears that we're still cellar dwellers. And the math says that we're the worst team in the NFL for the past half-decade. But I guess we have plenty of time left this year to accept that, right?
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