And about how it's unfortunately fairly common for a defender to be penalized for perfectly timing a snap because he's the only one on other line moving.
is going to cost you the game, you deserve to lose
Maybe the stupid post on football ever. One play often decides a game. I think WTF football team would agree.
How about the Seahawks SB loss to New England - one play. How about the helmet catch with Tyree or Mario Manningham's sideline catch - one play.
How about Evan Engrams dropped ball against the Eagles last year?
many other things contributed to the loss. Giants made a lot of mistakes and shot themselves in the foot. However, absent that call, the giants win. Period.
is going to cost you the game, you deserve to lose
But for the fact that penalty was called, they literally would have won.
This isn't in anyway to excuse all their other problems but rather to state there was nothing else that could have occurred to lose them the game once that FG was missed.
BUT, in that situation, you error on the side of caution. There's nothing to be gained by trying to time the snap count, knowing they will likely call off sides if its close.
BUT, in that situation, you error on the side of caution. There's nothing to be gained by trying to time the snap count, knowing they will likely call off sides if its close.
Agree 100 percent. Especially with an unreliable kicker like Hopkins. Bank on him blowing it
instead of taking care of business at the other end of the field.
Absolutely needed to move that ball after the pick and stay aggressive. They didn't and gave up control of the outcome of the game, even if you think he didn't jump on the FG.
is going to cost you the game, you deserve to lose
I think the point that people should be focusing on is that in 4 days we went from completely unprepared and uncompetitive team that could legitimately go for 2 or fewer wins to a team that lost a close game on a bad call. If it was against any team other than the WFT I’d call it an unqualified brightspot. Because this was the WFT I’m only cautiously optimistic that we will continue to advance into playing winning football over the next several weeks.
Also it wasn’t one bad call. It was two. That cost us a 7pt swing in a 1 point game. In years past these bad giants teams have rarely built off these types of performances. If Judge can now it will go a long way towards us finally turning this corner and get us moving firmly away from bad football
I thought "all scoring plays" are reviewed during the game.
is going to cost you the game, you deserve to lose
Well, ok? But what about the team that won? I guess they deserved to win? Is that it?
In the case of the Skins last night I'd say so. They scored a touchdown in 2 plays at one point, and then marched down the field in a two minute drill to get in FG range. It's not like they Forrest Gump'd their way to victory.
It should absolutely have never come down to a WFT FG
- Dexter timed it so closely that he was way ahead of the rest of the line. Easy to assume he jumped.
- If I understand the rules, the play starts when the center LIFTS the ball, not the split second later when it is passed back to the QB. To me Dexter jumped as soon as he saw the ball was lifted, not when it was "hiked".
Dexter had an ability at Clemson to block kicks; as a Freshman he blocked 2 and almost got the 3rd (game winning) try against Pitt. It was one of his skills.
Maybe he did jump but if so it was an extraordinarily close call.
isn't there at least one Eagles dlineman who seems to do this multiple times a game vs the Giants (on regular plays, not necessarily field goals) without getting flagged?
And when people complain on here, the explanation is that he just times it perfectly?
To be fair the holding on Jones was a bad call.
Maybe the stupid post on football ever. One play often decides a game. I think WTF football team would agree.
How about the Seahawks SB loss to New England - one play. How about the helmet catch with Tyree or Mario Manningham's sideline catch - one play.
How about Evan Engrams dropped ball against the Eagles last year?
But for the fact that penalty was called, they literally would have won.
This isn't in anyway to excuse all their other problems but rather to state there was nothing else that could have occurred to lose them the game once that FG was missed.
Watch it in .25x speed. He jumps before the snap. Very very very close.
But at 1x speed it looks clearly like he jumped offsides.
Agree 100 percent. Especially with an unreliable kicker like Hopkins. Bank on him blowing it
When everyone is in agreement with Buck and Aikmen that it was a terrible call, you know it was a terrible call
Absolutely needed to move that ball after the pick and stay aggressive. They didn't and gave up control of the outcome of the game, even if you think he didn't jump on the FG.
Well, ok? But what about the team that won? I guess they deserved to win? Is that it?
This is more than just a bad call. Its a game changing decision, do or die call, and they should have used replay to make sure
I think the point that people should be focusing on is that in 4 days we went from completely unprepared and uncompetitive team that could legitimately go for 2 or fewer wins to a team that lost a close game on a bad call. If it was against any team other than the WFT I’d call it an unqualified brightspot. Because this was the WFT I’m only cautiously optimistic that we will continue to advance into playing winning football over the next several weeks.
Also it wasn’t one bad call. It was two. That cost us a 7pt swing in a 1 point game. In years past these bad giants teams have rarely built off these types of performances. If Judge can now it will go a long way towards us finally turning this corner and get us moving firmly away from bad football
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is going to cost you the game, you deserve to lose
Well, ok? But what about the team that won? I guess they deserved to win? Is that it?
In the case of the Skins last night I'd say so. They scored a touchdown in 2 plays at one point, and then marched down the field in a two minute drill to get in FG range. It's not like they Forrest Gump'd their way to victory.
- If I understand the rules, the play starts when the center LIFTS the ball, not the split second later when it is passed back to the QB. To me Dexter jumped as soon as he saw the ball was lifted, not when it was "hiked".
Dexter had an ability at Clemson to block kicks; as a Freshman he blocked 2 and almost got the 3rd (game winning) try against Pitt. It was one of his skills.
Maybe he did jump but if so it was an extraordinarily close call.
Watch it in .25x speed. He jumps before the snap. Very very very close.
But at 1x speed it looks clearly like he jumped offsides.
Starting to move before the snap means nothing - happens on almost every play on defense. Only way he is offside is if he lines up offside.
Like the botched holding call on CJ Board?
And when people complain on here, the explanation is that he just times it perfectly?