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My son is a Cowboy Fan

PhilD : 9/18/2021 11:50 am
He lives in Austin. I was complaining about Garret running Barkley into the center of the line on first down. He said Garret did that in Dallas. Everyone knew he was running on first down. They were glad to get ride of Garret because of his play calling.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/18/2021 11:58 am : link
You lost me at the thread title
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2021 11:59 am : link
You failed as a father.
Sad, very sad.  
smshmth8690 : 9/18/2021 12:01 pm : link
The part about Garret was sad too.
Utter disaster  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/18/2021 12:05 pm : link
don't pay for his college loans
You still call him  
montanagiant : 9/18/2021 12:10 pm : link
Your "son"?
List of places  
Mark from Jersey : 9/18/2021 12:11 pm : link
That take problem children linked below
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I hate to break this to folks  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2021 12:16 pm : link
but if you have a very strong offensive line (which Dallas did for a number of years) and an elite back, you tend to run the ball on first down.
I  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2021 12:17 pm : link
am also old enough to remember Dallas fans complaining that Garrett didn't run the ball enough.
I mean running the ball out of tight formations is fine when you have  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2021 12:21 pm : link
a power back and a real good offensive line. Garret threw the ball a ton on first down this week. I gurantee Judge was behind the gutless play calling (ditto last week after we turned them over in red zone). I’m getting real sick of this super conservative nonsense.
Parcels did that too  
Debaser : 9/18/2021 12:24 pm : link
If you have an elite back it should be obvious when you are running sometimes. You can’t expect to roll out Danny boy and do rpo every down without the defense sniffing it out and tackling someone’s five years in the backfield.... you’re goig to have to accept the fact Barkley isn’t just not really an nfl back let alone generation or whatever
your son has dissappointed me  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/18/2021 12:33 pm : link
in ways you cannot possibly imagine
I used to think Garrett was the weak link..  
BamaBlue : 9/18/2021 12:42 pm : link
in the coaching chain. Now, I'm starting to think he's the strongest of a very weak trio.
RE: I  
Bear vs Shark : 9/18/2021 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15375435 Eric from BBI said:
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am also old enough to remember Dallas fans complaining that Garrett didn't run the ball enough.
Ha this is true, I remember this
Here is a very relevant article to that  
BH28 : 9/18/2021 12:47 pm : link
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Pass-rush-rush is the most successful three-play sequence, followed by pass-pass-rush and rush-pass-rush.

On first down, passing will net you at least 5 yards (enough to make the play a success) 47 percent of the time, while running the ball will get you the same result just 32.8 percent of the time, 14.2 percentage points less often. On second down, the gap closes to about a 7 percentage-point advantage for passing.

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Fuck Dallas and everything.  
Route 9 : 9/18/2021 12:57 pm : link
but I don't blame him. I wouldn't want anything to do with the Giants either right now. They're trash.
RE: I  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/18/2021 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15375435 Eric from BBI said:
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am also old enough to remember Dallas fans complaining that Garrett didn't run the ball enough.


Exactly. Watching Dallas over the years I frequently wondered why they would get away from the run when it seemed like they would get 6 or 7 yards running on first down. Getting away from what worked (running) was his problem from what I could see.
RE: ...  
RasputinPrime : 9/18/2021 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15375407 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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You failed as a father.


+1
Was he raised in a barn?  
George from PA : 9/18/2021 1:10 pm : link
I thought you need a psychiatrist or some kind of rehab.
Cool story bro  
90.Cal : 9/18/2021 1:11 pm : link
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Barkley  
Tuckrule : 9/18/2021 1:55 pm : link
8 runs on first down for a total of 1 yard

Garret also did his best to run drives. First down tried the jet sweep to Shepard. He just won’t give up on his bad play calls he forced them to work. If it isn’t Engram or board on the sweep let’s try toney or Shepard. He’s the worst play caller in the game
I call BS on Garrett always running on first down  
Rick in Dallas : 9/18/2021 2:18 pm : link
His offense was very balanced when he was the OC.
Strange complaint  
JOrthman : 9/18/2021 2:39 pm : link
Like many I thought they didn't run enough, they would force the pass at times.
RE: I hate to break this to folks  
JohnF : 9/18/2021 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15375432 Eric from BBI said:
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but if you have a very strong offensive line (which Dallas did for a number of years) and an elite back, you tend to run the ball on first down.


Eric, if Garrett can't tell the difference between a Offensive Line filled with All Pros that have played together for a while vs one with average players that were thrown together for this game (especially after the Gates injury)...he shouldn't be coaching. Period.

You have to adjust to what you have. There was simply no way going tight with the formation would work in that situation. And Garrett has to know this. Yes, the Giants Offensive Line played decently during much of the game, but in no sense were they overpowering the WFT Defensive Line.

I'm not sure this was Jason's call here, though. The reporters should have asked the Head Coach who made the call to go tight. I'm betting it was Judge.
Your son is a cowboy fan  
Carl in CT : 9/18/2021 4:10 pm : link
You must have given him crack for his 3rd birthday present. Total failure on your part
RE: I call BS on Garrett always running on first down  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2021 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15375525 Rick in Dallas said:
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His offense was very balanced when he was the OC.


Well he hasn't been a playcaller in a long time and it was a different NFL, but based on what we saw last year, he runs on first down way too much. You should be throwing the ball at least on a 2-1 split on first down unless you are protecting leads. How many leads were we protecting last year? Any? In fact, our split was abysmally bad considering we were always down. On Thursday night was much better and you see the results. Want to help your OL? Well stop running the ball on first down unless the OL is kicking ass. Our OL doesn't kick ass.
RE: I used to think Garrett was the weak link..  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15375453 BamaBlue said:
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in the coaching chain. Now, I'm starting to think he's the strongest of a very weak trio.


At least Garrett showed the ability to change last night. If this is how we call it moving forward I'll feel a helluva lot better about him. Only gripe I have is to stop running gadget plays on the edge of FG range that have no result in ending in a TD. I'd rather just run deep sell playaction. At least you have a chance to score on that one to balance a negative play.

I'm starting to think some of our playclalling is coming directly from Judge on what to do based on his decision making overall as a team. Remember when we turned the Broncos over in the Redzone and then we essentially punted on the next drive? Reeks of coming from Judge. Dude just really wants to highlight his special teams and I'm getting sick of it. Harbaugh is the anti Joe Judge. How is such a young coach stuck in 1985?
I feel ya  
eli4life : 9/18/2021 4:44 pm : link
Mines an eagles fan. His favorite color is green and the school he went to at the time was the eagles I considered suing the school board for corrupting my son lol. God will forgive him I suppose.
Zeke… Garrett threw the ball all over the field with Romo  
Rick in Dallas : 9/18/2021 4:50 pm : link
I am not talking about now with the Giants and his playcalling
The comment made was when he was with the Cowboys
You failed  
fireitup77 : 9/18/2021 6:15 pm : link
As a parent.
That's rough...  
JCin332 : 9/18/2021 8:49 pm : link
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RE: I  
GMen72 : 9/19/2021 6:02 am : link
In comment 15375435 Eric from BBI said:
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am also old enough to remember Dallas fans complaining that Garrett didn't run the ball enough.


I have a good friend here in Dallas (Cowgirl fan)...he has called Garrett, "run, run, pass" for a decade. It's always cracked me up how much Cowgirl fans hated the dude and how great of a hire Giants fans thought it WAS. Much like just about everything in the Gettleman era...it won't end well.
OMG...stop with the BS on Garrett as OC of the Cowboys  
Rick in Dallas : 9/19/2021 7:33 am : link
he was not run,run pass as a OC.
In 2007 the Cowboys had the 2nd highest ranked offense in the league. In 2007 thru 2009 Romo had tremendous passing stats while JG was OC of the Cowboys.

Do you think fucking talent on offense has anything to do with how a OC calls the game?
Cowboys were loaded with talent and very balanced as an offense.
Giants the past 2 years not loaded with talent and the offense shows. JG hasn't changed his stripes as an OC he lacks talent on offense with the Giants.
I thought the second half of Thursday's game with the OL playing well he opened up the playbook. Hopefully the OL continues to play well and we see a more diversified offense.
The fucking Giants have lacked talent on offense the past 2 years it's as simple as that....


After Garrett saw that our pass blocking was effective vs. WFT,  
CT Charlie : 9/19/2021 10:13 am : link
you'd hope he'd use the pass to set up the run.
RE: Fuck Dallas and everything.  
KingBlue : 9/20/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15375465 Route 9 said:
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but I don't blame him. I wouldn't want anything to do with the Giants either right now. They're trash.


Oh, the Irony is thick here.
RE: OMG...stop with the BS on Garrett as OC of the Cowboys  
Debaser : 9/20/2021 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15375900 Rick in Dallas said:
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he was not run,run pass as a OC.
In 2007 the Cowboys had the 2nd highest ranked offense in the league. In 2007 thru 2009 Romo had tremendous passing stats while JG was OC of the Cowboys.

Do you think fucking talent on offense has anything to do with how a OC calls the game?
Cowboys were loaded with talent and very balanced as an offense.
Giants the past 2 years not loaded with talent and the offense shows. JG hasn't changed his stripes as an OC he lacks talent on offense with the Giants.
I thought the second half of Thursday's game with the OL playing well he opened up the playbook. Hopefully the OL continues to play well and we see a more diversified offense.
The fucking Giants have lacked talent on offense the past 2 years it's as simple as that....



So true!!!!!! It's like these lay football opinions .. .they watch lamar jackson and mahomes and think "if only we called plays like that , this teM COULD BE JUST AS GOOD..." NOT!!!!

They make it look easy and they EXECUTE and more MORE TALENT. SOMETHING THE GIANTS LACK!!!! Lamar Jackson can email Jones and Judge the playbook and if the jints tried to run it they would be some serious losses on the play
RE: Zeke… Garrett threw the ball all over the field with Romo  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/20/2021 2:27 pm : link
In comment 15375650 Rick in Dallas said:
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I am not talking about now with the Giants and his playcalling
The comment made was when he was with the Cowboys


You are citing his time from a decade a half ago. The NFL has changed a ton and we don’t have the offensive line. We should be throwing the ball more than most teams on first down, not less. Like I said, it was better Thursday and hope to see more of it. I don’t know who called that shit at the end of the game, but I’m leaning towards Judge. Lots of guys can be good calling plays for good offenses. Good OCs adjust to what they have, and this offense isn’t talent bereft at the skills. Quite the opposite, certainly top half of the league. If he continues to run the ball out of tight formations with Saquon, we are going to struggle.
What exactlllly do you want him to call?  
Debaser : 9/20/2021 3:45 pm : link
How often are you going to run like a toss or an off tackle run without the defense being ready 5 yards in the backfield for a big loss?
I can't imagine having a child  
Beezer : 9/20/2021 6:57 pm : link
who rooted for the Cowboys, Eagles or the team formerly called the Redskins.
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