Not a negative thread or dismissing this season…

Didn’t mean to say “next year”

tackle and pass rusher. The interior ol comes next.

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In this scenario, I first try to fenagle another 1st rounder for 2023, if no trade, then 1 Edge and 1 OL. I can't image the CHI 1st is not a top 5 pick. A 1st round Oline and a high end free agent would change/fix alot.

is on Jones. Even if he's "all right", is he worth signing to a $30 million dollar contract after his rookie deal expires? (Which is the going rate now)

I would say no, because I don't trust read offense QB's to take you to a Super Bowl and win it.

If there's a Franchise QB out there in the draft, we need to take that guy, either with one of the two draft choices, or use both.

Otherwise, the team needs to use it's first two choices for Edge Rusher/Offensive Tackle in no particular order, then get Offensive guards. We may need to dedicate a draft to fixing both lines once and for all.

You could replace Jones in this situation with a journeyman (think how we drafted Kerry Collins back in the day), then use a later draft for a franchise QB once the new Offensive Line solidifies. And yeah, doing this would mean trading Barkley for draft choices.

Picked up (not drafted) Collins.

Pick up a Qb like Jimmy G or Foles for a year and cluster draft linemen on both sides of the ball?

Jones has this year plus 2 more before we need to resign him.
I don't see the Giants moving on from him until his rookie deal is up unless he completely falls apart.
He has shown enough when the line gives him time to be successful.
I think the current leadership will continue to build around him.
If gettleman and judge are fired and we bring in a completely different front office than bets are off and they probably draft a QB.
Let's be honest the Giants have not wiped this clean since the 70's and very rarely go to far out of the organization to hire talent.

1. I don't know if there is a QB I like enough that is that much better than DJ.

2. The reason why the Cleveland browns are so bad is because they tried to fix their team is QB after QB, they also tried getting a RB and that was a bust too. These players can make your team better but they will not win either if you have no pass rush, no protection, and no push to make a hole for a RB.

3. We already rebuilt and we need to keep building. We all agreed this team sucked and that it was going to take years to fix and where we failed was more in the line as pass rush not the QB. Last week was even more proof, DJ had 250 yards passing and a TD and another 100 yards rushing with a TD. How much more are you expecting a rookie QB to do with a bad line and no pass rush. Fix the the freaking problems.

4. Offense design. Stop trying to run an offense does not match your personell. Stop trying to put a round peg in a square hole. Be creative with weapons you already invested in.

5.Stop using Saquan as a every down back until he actually can do the job. I feel bad that he is not there yet but this year should not be used for him but rather to see what DJ's ceiling actually is if you let him loose.

6. If the Saquan and DJ experience is complete bust it's because you wasted any talent you had with not building the team properly and you are not going to fix the team by just replacing them or you just going to cycle through the same process. Fix your shit with draft picks. If you draft high again the next year then you will have a high pick to pick the QB to take Jones' job

It should say brown WERE so bad, not ARE so bad.

as partial patella tendon tear and a broken leg are things that should be completely healed by next season. They should both be 100%. Then, you've got what you've got as far as talent.

before publishing?

Package him and a #1 for Deshaun Watson. The NFL has changed...the QB has to be able to win games, not just be above average. DJ looks like he has a low ceiling. On his best day, he's Cousins or Carr. As for paying DJ...only if you want to be 8-8, at best, every year. DJ needs to be 2020 Josh Allen this year or move on.

I think this team is headed for 1-7 or 2-6. If that happens...tank! Fire Gettleman and let a real GM rebuild.

In comment 15375623 Bill in UT said:

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as partial patella tendon tear and a broken leg are things that should be completely healed by next season. They should both be 100%. Then, you've got what you've got as far as talent.

Thanks for your input. You are 1 of 2 who actually answered the question. This somehow turned into “should we keep DJ” thread.

should have no impact of what to do with the OL. They should add 3-4 in the draft and UDFA. One in round 2-3 and the rest in later rounds.

Keep building a pipeline. Constantly try to improve starters and depth. Let marginal or just average leave. Do not sign average to second contracts. Continue this every year.

I say an offensive guard at least since Hernandez's contract is up after this season. Solder is also getting along in years.

Related to Solder, is Peart in the doghouse? I don't think he was on the field at all against Washington.

In comment 15375915 Angel Eyes said:

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I say an offensive guard at least since Hernandez's contract is up after this season. Solder is also getting along in years. Related to Solder, is Peart in the doghouse? I don't think he was on the field at all against Washington.

No he’s just too ‘raw’ apparently to beat Soldier.

It's fairly obvious Jones isn't a franchise QB. If you have to ask if someone IS, they aren't. He wasn't a winner in college he hasn't been a winner in the NFL, and hasn't shown an ability to lift a team in either place. If I'm the Giants, if there's a franchise QB in the draft, you draft him, if not, get a journeyman in to placehold the QB job, use the picks on O-line, and trade Jones, if you can, for picks.