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Andrew Thomas last 5 games

shadow_spinner0 : 9/18/2021 4:53 pm
Over his last 207 pass-blocking snaps (5 games going back to last season), Andrew Thomas has allowed 1 sack and 9 pressures

Week 2 vs WFT: 2 Pressures in 43 pass blocking snaps

Week 1 vs. Denver: 2 pressures in 45 pass blocking snaps

Week 17 vs Dallas: 0 pressures in 31 pass blocking snaps

Week 16 vs Baltimore: 3 pressures (1 hit) in 53 pass blocking snaps

Week 15 vs Cleveland: 2 pressures (1 sack) in 35 pass blocking snaps

If you wanna take it a little further, Week 14 vs the Cardinals was really bad (7 pressures and 2 sacks in 32 snaps, albeit with a 1-legged DJ) but Weeks 12-13 he had 0 pressures in 70 pass-blocking snaps.

Still has things to work on but gotta give credit where its due. Love the way AT is developing and its encouraging that theres still so much room to improve. I know we're all down about the two heartbreaking losses but with all the questions we have about Thomas, we should be really happy that hes performing the way he is now. It sucks that it has to coincide with the good things from last year regressing but give the guy his credit.

Lets also ignore pre season because it's pre season and he said he was sick that game.
Jones was  
Producer : 9/18/2021 4:55 pm : link
not pressured that much vs Wash. They seem to be doing something right.
Just watched the all 22..  
bLiTz 2k : 9/18/2021 5:13 pm : link
and Thomas really has improved his feet in his pass sets. He's been getting proper depth and not over commiting. If he keeps this up I'll be ecstatic.
He will get there ...  
short lease : 9/18/2021 5:16 pm : link
David Diehl played a pretty good left tackle (iirc) but, that was about his 4-5 year before he came into his own at Tackle?

And Diehl was drafted as a guard (iirc) coming out of college.
Ive been saying this for while  
Aaroninma : 9/18/2021 5:21 pm : link
I never understood the concern about AT. He was excellent last year in the 2nd half of the season. Hes going to be an all-pro guy for a while and the best T in that class when its all said and done
RE: He will get there ...  
bLiTz 2k : 9/18/2021 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15375664 short lease said:
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David Diehl played a pretty good left tackle (iirc) but, that was about his 4-5 year before he came into his own at Tackle?

And Diehl was drafted as a guard (iirc) coming out of college.


He was a RT if I recall. They moved him to guard in 05 where he excelled until 07 when they cut Pettitgout and moved him to LT. He immediately played well there in his first year which was pretty remarkable. I remember most fans being nervous as hell with him at LT, as he was not that great at RT early in his career.

He's had an interesting career path...unlike Thomas who has been playing LT since high school.
I say...  
DannyDimes : 9/18/2021 5:32 pm : link
Thomas sucks because I read here that he was a bust a few weeks ago.... so it must be true.
I thought he gave up a sack on an absolutely  
cosmicj : 9/18/2021 5:36 pm : link
Scintillating Chase Young move in the first half. In general, I was really happy with how Thomas played, though. If he keeps this up, he will be an upper echelon LT for a long time.

The Young move was so awesome and quick, by the way, that it left me wondering why Young wasn’t considered one of the league’s best players. Maybe he doesn’t go full steam all the time?
RE: I thought he gave up a sack on an absolutely  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/18/2021 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15375678 cosmicj said:
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Scintillating Chase Young move in the first half. In general, I was really happy with how Thomas played, though. If he keeps this up, he will be an upper echelon LT for a long time.

The Young move was so awesome and quick, by the way, that it left me wondering why Young wasn’t considered one of the league’s best players. Maybe he doesn’t go full steam all the time?


That entire DL gets a lot of praise since they turned it on late last year. It's also only Chase's second season.
RE: I thought he gave up a sack on an absolutely  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/18/2021 5:54 pm : link
In comment 15375678 cosmicj said:
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Scintillating Chase Young move in the first half. In general, I was really happy with how Thomas played, though. If he keeps this up, he will be an upper echelon LT for a long time.

The Young move was so awesome and quick, by the way, that it left me wondering why Young wasn’t considered one of the league’s best players. Maybe he doesn’t go full steam all the time?

Chase was ranked in 61st in the top 100 after his rookie season. Not many rookies get ranked that high. I think that'll be the lowest he'll be ranked for a long time.
Young is a bit overrated as it stands, he does give you one great  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2021 5:56 pm : link
highlight play a game, but he dissappears for long stretches, and his tank isn't very good. He took himself out on a 3rd and passing situation, how many edge guys do that? Not many.

That being said, imagine how bad our season will turn out if AT misses any stretch of time. Things will get ugly.
Ereck Flowers Part 2  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/18/2021 6:00 pm : link
According to some well informed people on BBI. ;)
RE: RE: He will get there ...  
short lease : 9/18/2021 6:23 pm : link
In comment 15375668 bLiTz 2k said:
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In comment 15375664 short lease said:


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David Diehl played a pretty good left tackle (iirc) but, that was about his 4-5 year before he came into his own at Tackle?

And Diehl was drafted as a guard (iirc) coming out of college.



He was a RT if I recall. They moved him to guard in 05 where he excelled until 07 when they cut Pettitgout and moved him to LT. He immediately played well there in his first year which was pretty remarkable. I remember most fans being nervous as hell with him at LT, as he was not that great at RT early in his career.

He's had an interesting career path...unlike Thomas who has been playing LT since high school.



You maybe right Blitz - I was going from memory from 20 years ago?

I am pretty sure he played Guard in college for a college in Illinois.

My point is - guys can develop. Even if it means just going from the college game to the pro-game (at the same position) it may take a little time. Thomas was drafted in 2020 - he was a rookie last year. At least his trajectory arrow is pointing upward (so it seems). Fingers crossed.
There were a lot of people questioning our 3 top six picks  
BillT : 9/18/2021 6:24 pm : link
I think the questions are nearly over for Thomas, DJ needs to follow up on his performance on Thursday but there is some hope, and our former offensive rookie of the year needs to show he’s recovered and those question might just stop.
But he had a lousy half in a pre-seasom game!  
George from PA : 9/18/2021 6:27 pm : link
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RE: I say...  
cjac : 9/18/2021 6:31 pm : link
In comment 15375677 DannyDimes said:
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Thomas sucks because I read here that he was a bust a few weeks ago.... so it must be true.


Are you going to change your handle to Vanilla Vick?
RE: There were a lot of people questioning our 3 top six picks  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2021 6:37 pm : link
In comment 15375710 BillT said:
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I think the questions are nearly over for Thomas, DJ needs to follow up on his performance on Thursday but there is some hope, and our former offensive rookie of the year needs to show he’s recovered and those question might just stop.


The amount of certainty people spout after one year is kinda crazy. Like things are set in stone. Wirfs is great, but he's a RT. Becton is injury prone and Wills is a guard eventually. The amount of supporters he had here was kind of surprising, just slap that Bama label on and people drool I guess. The asshats said it was between Wirfs and Thomas and they wanted a guy that could play LT (I was a Wirfs guy and couldn't believe that he fell to TB, talk about the rich getting richer)
The 2 big positives so far on O  
BigBlueNH : 9/18/2021 6:39 pm : link
are Thomas and Jones. Considering they are the 2 most important positions, I am encouraged. Use some of our high draft picks next year on OL and TE, and I think our O might be set up for long-term success.

I don't know what to make of our D.
RE: I thought he gave up a sack on an absolutely  
Ben in Tampa : 9/18/2021 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15375678 cosmicj said:
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Scintillating Chase Young move in the first half.

The Young move was so awesome and quick, by the way, that it left me wondering why Young wasn’t considered one of the league’s best players. Maybe he doesn’t go full steam all the time?


Really? I think he's actually overrated by the talking heads purely because he was drafted #2 overall.

Azeez Ojulari is on pace to have more sacks than Young, fyi.
RE: Just watched the all 22..  
Joey in VA : 9/18/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15375662 bLiTz 2k said:
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and Thomas really has improved his feet in his pass sets. He's been getting proper depth and not over commiting. If he keeps this up I'll be ecstatic.
Excellent observation, his tendency to wait for the DE to show his hand was killing him when he guessed wrong, he's getting depth immediately and anchoring well. Hernandez did that well all night too. It looks like Sale is having an impact
RE: RE: There were a lot of people questioning our 3 top six picks  
Giantology : 9/18/2021 7:43 pm : link
In comment 15375726 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15375710 BillT said:


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I think the questions are nearly over for Thomas, DJ needs to follow up on his performance on Thursday but there is some hope, and our former offensive rookie of the year needs to show he’s recovered and those question might just stop.



The amount of certainty people spout after one year is kinda crazy. Like things are set in stone. Wirfs is great, but he's a RT. Becton is injury prone and Wills is a guard eventually. The amount of supporters he had here was kind of surprising, just slap that Bama label on and people drool I guess. The asshats said it was between Wirfs and Thomas and they wanted a guy that could play LT (I was a Wirfs guy and couldn't believe that he fell to TB, talk about the rich getting richer)


One year? Not even one game. One snap!
RE: Young is a bit overrated as it stands, he does give you one great  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/18/2021 9:19 pm : link
In comment 15375696 Zeke's Alibi said:
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highlight play a game, but he dissappears for long stretches, and his tank isn't very good. He took himself out on a 3rd and passing situation, how many edge guys do that? Not many.

That being said, imagine how bad our season will turn out if AT misses any stretch of time. Things will get ugly.


Young played 86% of snaps in week 1 (70 plays) and 91% of snaps in week 2 (63 plays).


They should probably rotate DL more, that's how you end up coming off the field sucking wind.

But then you look at the Giants, and they give their players a ton of rest, and Dex and Leonard Williams haven't done anything yet either.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/18/2021 10:20 pm : link
Since about week 7 of last year he’s been improving, and meeting expectations so far through 2 games in year 2. The kid is turning 23 in January.
About the Broncos game, how come they didn't do more runs off-tackle  
Angel Eyes : 9/18/2021 11:52 pm : link
on Thomas' side of the ball? There weren't a lot of runs to the left side of the offense, run blocking is Thomas' forte, and it's a better gameplan than running stuff at Von Miller (here's looking at the jet sweep early in the game where Miller dropped Kadarius Toney for a big loss).
RE: RE: I thought he gave up a sack on an absolutely  
Tuckrule : 9/19/2021 9:07 am : link
In comment 15375746 Ben in Tampa said:
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In comment 15375678 cosmicj said:


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Scintillating Chase Young move in the first half.

The Young move was so awesome and quick, by the way, that it left me wondering why Young wasn’t considered one of the league’s best players. Maybe he doesn’t go full steam all the time?



Really? I think he's actually overrated by the talking heads purely because he was drafted #2 overall.

Azeez Ojulari is on pace to have more sacks than Young, fyi.


Omg stop. Ojulari is on pace to have more sacks. Watch the game. Ojulari has 2 coverage sacks. He can’t beat anybody off the line with any move. Young is overrated for sure he’s not even a top 3 lineman on his own team. He’s the second best edge behind sweat and Payne and Allen are more valuable. Considering he’s on a line with 3 pro bowlers and sees few doubles he’s def underwhelming but don’t mention Ojulari in the same breath as young. It’s crazy.
Most young edges take a year or two to develop  
Giants73 : 9/19/2021 9:18 am : link
The Watts and the Bosas are more of the rare edges that come in and are immediately impactful at edge. They also has the help of brothers and/or fathers who were in the league and helped them with a variety of moves. I liked Carter at Georgia and thought he would be dynamic, but at this point it looks like his potential is aBrandon Short. Ajeez has much better bend and balance, I think weight his issue, if he can gain 20 lbs and not lose his speed he will excel. As for Thomas, still think he will be the best tackle in this draft. Much easier for wills and wirfs to look good with their supporting cast. And neither of them looked particularly amazing last week. Think the nit picking of a play or two by us fans of Thomasand not seeing worse mistakes of the other two by not watching every play of them is the difference
Anything's possible, but Matt Peart  
CT Charlie : 9/19/2021 10:10 am : link
might easily decide that instead of having a couple of million in the bank, he'd like to improve to the point where he could put tens of millions in the bank. He's young and he doesn't have a big-time football background; for him, a second year in the NFL might inspire him to take a big leap.
RE: About the Broncos game, how come they didn't do more runs off-tackle  
fireitup77 : 9/19/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15375868 Angel Eyes said:
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on Thomas' side of the ball? There weren't a lot of runs to the left side of the offense, run blocking is Thomas' forte, and it's a better gameplan than running stuff at Von Miller (here's looking at the jet sweep early in the game where Miller dropped Kadarius Toney for a big loss).


It took our OC eight games last year to start running left. Let's hope it doesn't take him that long this season.
RE: RE: He will get there ...  
Ivan15 : 9/19/2021 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15375668 bLiTz 2k said:
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In comment 15375664 short lease said:


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David Diehl played a pretty good left tackle (iirc) but, that was about his 4-5 year before he came into his own at Tackle?

And Diehl was drafted as a guard (iirc) coming out of college.



He was a RT if I recall. They moved him to guard in 05 where he excelled until 07 when they cut Pettitgout and moved him to LT. He immediately played well there in his first year which was pretty remarkable. I remember most fans being nervous as hell with him at LT, as he was not that great at RT early in his career.

He's had an interesting career path...unlike Thomas who has been playing LT since high school.

Dtehl’s first game was at guard.
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