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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: in the grasp?  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/19/2021 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15376770 Producer said:
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give me a break, terrible call.



Ok, then it is intentional grounding - which one are you taking?



he had a receiver near the ball.



No there wasn't. And he was at least 5 yards short of the LoS.



it looked like a RB was in the area.


Not even close. Maybe 8 yards away if he's lucky
Lol I don’t care if Boys win an AFC game the East is so winnable it’s  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:17 pm : link
hilarious EVEN if we somehow lose this week.
......  
Route 9 : 9/19/2021 7:18 pm : link
Romo nagging Natz to make the prediction
RE: Lol I don’t care if Boys win an AFC game the East is so winnable it’s  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15376777 Zeke's Alibi said:
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hilarious EVEN if we somehow lose this week.


Or next week.
The  
AcidTest : 9/19/2021 7:18 pm : link
Chargers played like the Giants last Thursday. An endless series of mistakes cost them the game at the end. They should have won by 10.
Well  
jnoble : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
At least it ain't just us losing and a heartbreaking last-second long field goal
F*k  
Mad Mike : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
Chargers shot themselves in the foot so many times.
poor vikes  
Banks : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
2 games they should have won
....  
BleedBlue : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
Chargers are pathetic. HUGE penalties in big spots.

Herbert killed game with redzone INT
Good win for  
joeinpa : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
Dallas, horrible loss for Vikings

LMAO...The Vikes kicker missed a 37 yarder for the win  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
Horrible kick
Well the  
section125 : 9/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
Chargers completely fucked that up. Should have won by 2 TDs....guess Herbert will never be a NFL QB.

Dumb asses
Golden Boy Herbert with  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/19/2021 7:20 pm : link
Another stinker
RE: The  
section125 : 9/19/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15376780 AcidTest said:
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Chargers played like the Giants last Thursday. An endless series of mistakes cost them the game at the end. They should have won by 10.


The Giants did not make that many mistakes and penalties.
RE: Golden Boy Herbert with  
Tuckrule : 9/19/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15376788 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Another stinker


Is this for real. Did you not see the 14 points negated by dumb penalties? He did throw a bad INT but he played well overall. This is a poor take by an angry fan
Terrible  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2021 7:21 pm : link
end zone INT by Herbert cost them big time. Wonder if BBI will talk about that tomorrow
RE: The  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15376780 AcidTest said:
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Chargers played like the Giants last Thursday. An endless series of mistakes cost them the game at the end. They should have won by 10.


Yep but they had better playcalling the QB was just a lot worse. I mean that Boys defense is TERRIBLE right now.
Giants are only NFC East team  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/19/2021 7:23 pm : link
that are 0-2, pain
Herbert came up short a lot last year  
Giants73 : 9/19/2021 7:23 pm : link
Seems to be one of those stat QBs that comes up small. Tony Romo like
Have to believe  
Sammo85 : 9/19/2021 7:23 pm : link
Zimmer might be on the firing line soon in Minny. His defense looks as bad as it was last year.
RE: RE: Golden Boy Herbert with  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15376790 Tuckrule said:
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Another stinker



Is this for real. Did you not see the 14 points negated by dumb penalties? He did throw a bad INT but he played well overall. This is a poor take by an angry fan


Lol what game did you watch dude. He played okay last week, but okay would be fucking charitable for this one. If we only put up 17 on that defense without Lawrence and DJ gets that type of time I’ll lead the scouting team myself for the next one. Herbert has something on film because it makes no sense how these guys are jumping accurate rockets.
All those people chalking up the Chargers as an L should probably  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:25 pm : link
are evaluate.
RE: RE: Golden Boy Herbert with  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/19/2021 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15376790 Tuckrule said:
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Another stinker



Is this for real. Did you not see the 14 points negated by dumb penalties? He did throw a bad INT but he played well overall. This is a poor take by an angry fan


I've watched this dude for the last 2 weeks. You'd think he was already inducted into the HoF listening to some. He played pedestrian and made major mistakes that cost his team the game this week. I expect more from him in his second year, especially when he plays the east.
Almost unwatchable....  
Kanavis : 9/19/2021 7:26 pm : link
with all of those penalties. But the Giants are the worst team in the division until proven otherwise. The Dallas offense is going to turn Picasso's masterpiece into a Jackson Pollock. In fact, the Giants don't have the right to say they are better than anyone in football right now until proven otherwise. Their defense is not at an NFL level and won't be unless there is a massive change in philosophy and scheme.
Hmmm Have I Got This Right?  
M.S. : 9/19/2021 7:29 pm : link

Dallas 1-1
Philly 1-1
Wash 1-1
Giants 0-2

RE: Hmmm Have I Got This Right?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15376804 M.S. said:
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Dallas 1-1
Philly 1-1
Wash 1-1
Giants 0-2


Yep, but I don't know if you noticed, but we had a win stolen from us and the East looks stinky, again. 9 wins is almost a lock to make the playoffs.
Cowboys are so lucky  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2021 7:32 pm : link
Hebert throws a pick in the endzone, the Chargers have a TD called back. Bacally 11 pts. Meanwhile we get a TD erased by a phantom holding call and Dex gets called offsides on a terrible call.

I hope this evens out eventually.
RE: RE: RE: Golden Boy Herbert with  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15376801 Thunderstruck27 said:
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I've watched this dude for the last 2 weeks. You'd think he was already inducted into the HoF listening to some. He played pedestrian and made major mistakes that cost his team the game this week. I expect more from him in his second year, especially when he plays the east.


The announcer last week was embarassing. Seriously, you'd think the guy was a sure fire lock for Canton, let alone elite QB. He's definetly going to be fine in the long run, but there is something on film this year because teams are jumping all over him, even with accurate lasers.
RE: Cowboys are so lucky  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15376807 PatersonPlank said:
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Hebert throws a pick in the endzone, the Chargers have a TD called back. Bacally 11 pts. Meanwhile we get a TD erased by a phantom holding call and Dex gets called offsides on a terrible call.

I hope this evens out eventually.


I honestly feel a lot better for now after watching the Eagles and Cowboys today.
RE: Almost unwatchable....  
joeinpa : 9/19/2021 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15376803 Kanavis said:
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with all of those penalties. But the Giants are the worst team in the division until proven otherwise. The Dallas offense is going to turn Picasso's masterpiece into a Jackson Pollock. In fact, the Giants don't have the right to say they are better than anyone in football right now until proven otherwise. Their defense is not at an NFL level and won't be unless there is a massive change in philosophy and scheme.


Unless Graham can come up with a better strategy than a 4 man rush that rarely threatens the quarterback, backed up by a soft zone, the Giants won’t beat any of their opponents I watched today.

Can we believe going into week three we feel better about the offense than the defense.

That  
AcidTest : 9/19/2021 7:49 pm : link
was a safety. Wilson was stopped in the end zone. Terrible call.
Our defense was worse  
UConn4523 : 9/19/2021 7:50 pm : link
through 3 games last season than we’ve seen so far through 2 games this season. No idea if we see the same adjustment or not but it happened last year so it’s something to go off of.
RE: That  
Jersey Heel : 9/19/2021 7:52 pm : link
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was a safety. Wilson was stopped in the end zone. Terrible call.

Absolutely agree.
Tennessee  
AcidTest : 9/19/2021 7:59 pm : link
wins anyway.
RE: RE: Cowboys are so lucky  
rebel yell : 9/19/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15376809 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Hebert throws a pick in the endzone, the Chargers have a TD called back. Bacally 11 pts. Meanwhile we get a TD erased by a phantom holding call and Dex gets called offsides on a terrible call.

I hope this evens out eventually.



I honestly feel a lot better for now after watching the Eagles and Cowboys today.

Really? You feel better? Wish I had what you're drinking.
That Dallas game did not go as I expected...  
bw in dc : 9/19/2021 8:15 pm : link
Big credit to Quinn and that Dallas D for holding LAC to 17 points at home.

Costly turnovers by Herbert in Dallas territory were important factors. The INT by Diggs was a great play.

Twenty penalties is just insane for the product. The game was borderline unwatchable.

If Dallas is smart they trade Zeke at the end of the year. Pollard is ready to be the primary.
RE: RE: RE: Cowboys are so lucky  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15376827 rebel yell said:
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Really? You feel better? Wish I had what you're drinking.


Did you see the same Cowboys team I did? The Chargers let them off the hook with a billion penalties and sloppy QB play. It's criminal they only scored 17 against that defense. The HC is a good playcaller and nice scheme, but his team was undisciplined beyond belief.

I'll re-evaluate after next week, but the big thing holding the team back so far is coaching. That can be fixed. We saw Garrett make massive strides this week. Ironically, Graham gets another bite at the apple because Ryan doesn't want to push the ball down the field anymore and their offensive coordinator is as dumb as our conservative play calling has beeen. He ran into the teeht of the Bucs defense multiple times on key plays.

The Cowboys, to their credit, were smart enough not to do that and take advantage of the Bucs poor secondary. It was too little too late for ATL today. I can't tell who has a worse defense right now the Cowboys or ATL.
Cowboys Eagles next week and I was tempted to take Eagles getting  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 8:22 pm : link
4 until I remembered they lost some old vets in that one.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2021 8:27 pm : link
So was Jackson trying to “create a play” there?
Pardon me  
crick n NC : 9/19/2021 8:35 pm : link
If this has already been discussed. I just read that Micah Parsons was playing DE today for Dallas. I am interested how his athletic ability translated to playing DE, especially rushing the passer. Did anyone key on him today?
RE: Pardon me  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2021 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15376870 crick n NC said:
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If this has already been discussed. I just read that Micah Parsons was playing DE today for Dallas. I am interested how his athletic ability translated to playing DE, especially rushing the passer. Did anyone key on him today?


He looked good, but I doubt it's sustainable. Can't imagine he has a plethora of moves.
RE: RE: Pardon me  
crick n NC : 9/19/2021 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15376872 Zeke's Alibi said:
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If this has already been discussed. I just read that Micah Parsons was playing DE today for Dallas. I am interested how his athletic ability translated to playing DE, especially rushing the passer. Did anyone key on him today?



He looked good, but I doubt it's sustainable. Can't imagine he has a plethora of moves.


Thanks Zeke.
RE: Cowboys Eagles next week and I was tempted to take Eagles getting  
Eman11 : 9/19/2021 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15376847 Zeke's Alibi said:
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4 until I remembered they lost some old vets in that one.


Might be a who has the ball last wins game. I don’t think either D will stop the other team much at all.

I think the Boys are a better team but not by much and the best I can hope for is they beat the crap out of each other so the next week they both are sluggish and lose.

RE: Pardon me  
bw in dc : 9/19/2021 8:51 pm : link
In comment 15376870 crick n NC said:
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If this has already been discussed. I just read that Micah Parsons was playing DE today for Dallas. I am interested how his athletic ability translated to playing DE, especially rushing the passer. Did anyone key on him today?


He looked pretty solid.

Parsons played DE in high school. And was recruited by PSU to play DE. But he was so insanely good standing up Franklin moved him to LB.

Before Covid hit, PSU was going to use him on kick off returns and at RB. That's how highly the staff thought of him...
RE: RE: Pardon me  
crick n NC : 9/19/2021 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15376885 bw in dc said:
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If this has already been discussed. I just read that Micah Parsons was playing DE today for Dallas. I am interested how his athletic ability translated to playing DE, especially rushing the passer. Did anyone key on him today?



He looked pretty solid.

Parsons played DE in high school. And was recruited by PSU to play DE. But he was so insanely good standing up Franklin moved him to LB.

Before Covid hit, PSU was going to use him on kick off returns and at RB. That's how highly the staff thought of him...


Thanks, his insane athletic ability make him very intriguing.
Derrick Henry is a beast  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/20/2021 12:08 pm : link
I didn’t want to start a new thread on this. But his performance in the 2nd half yesterday was special. Down 15 in the 2nd half against a strong run D on the road in a loud environment, and a RB puts the team on his back to complete the comeback and win the game.

The way he gets stronger as the game goes on has been a trademark of his, and yesterday was an amazing example of it. 41 freaking touches for the RB in 2021! I wonder if he can make a run at 2000 yards on the ground again, whether it’s in 16 or 17 games.
RE: Derrick Henry is a beast  
UConn4523 : 9/20/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15377570 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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I didn’t want to start a new thread on this. But his performance in the 2nd half yesterday was special. Down 15 in the 2nd half against a strong run D on the road in a loud environment, and a RB puts the team on his back to complete the comeback and win the game.

The way he gets stronger as the game goes on has been a trademark of his, and yesterday was an amazing example of it. 41 freaking touches for the RB in 2021! I wonder if he can make a run at 2000 yards on the ground again, whether it’s in 16 or 17 games.


Vrabel better hope so because they really aren't a good offense without it. For fantasy purposes, I also hope so.
Julio looks like he still has gas left in the tank  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/20/2021 12:22 pm : link
And AJ Brown was a disaster yesterday but he is a hell of a player. Henry/Jones/Brown with a solid QB like Tannehill ain’t bad at all. But their OL isn’t very good and people are trashing their OC.

It’s just interesting to me that an old school back like Henry can stand out so much as the exception to the “RBs aren’t valuable” rule so much.

Brady killing it as an old school pure pocket passer and Henry dominating as an old school bellcow is just nice to see imo.
RE: RE: Derrick Henry is a beast  
BigBlueShock : 9/20/2021 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15377574 UConn4523 said:
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I didn’t want to start a new thread on this. But his performance in the 2nd half yesterday was special. Down 15 in the 2nd half against a strong run D on the road in a loud environment, and a RB puts the team on his back to complete the comeback and win the game.

The way he gets stronger as the game goes on has been a trademark of his, and yesterday was an amazing example of it. 41 freaking touches for the RB in 2021! I wonder if he can make a run at 2000 yards on the ground again, whether it’s in 16 or 17 games.



Vrabel better hope so because they really aren't a good offense without it. For fantasy purposes, I also hope so.

How’d you get Henry? You’ve been very vocal over the years about your strategy of drafting WR over RB in the first couple of rounds. Did you stray from your preferred method of drafting? Can’t imagine Henry dropping much past the top 5 or 6 overall in any draft
I picked 4th  
UConn4523 : 9/20/2021 12:48 pm : link
too high for WR (Adams ended up going 7). My philosophy isn't to ignore RB, its to not go into drafts thinking you need RB/RB. This is also my preferred approach, doesn't mean I lock myself into this line of thinking no matter what.
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