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GNewGiants : 9/19/2021 8:26 pm
Lamar missed an easy TD then throws pick 6.
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TD play would have been a great call  
shyster : 9/19/2021 11:11 pm : link
on second down after the Bradberry INT.

Even when the defense has seen the QB keep the ball, there is a strong tendency to go for the RB fake.
RE: TD play would have been a great call  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15377081 shyster said:
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on second down after the Bradberry INT.

Even when the defense has seen the QB keep the ball, there is a strong tendency to go for the RB fake.


100%. Why didn't they do the read option at least once there?
RE: RE: TD play would have been a great call  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/19/2021 11:14 pm : link
In comment 15377082 Producer said:
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In comment 15377081 shyster said:


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on second down after the Bradberry INT.

Even when the defense has seen the QB keep the ball, there is a strong tendency to go for the RB fake.



100%. Why didn't they do the read option at least once there?


It's possible that the coaches might be the biggest problem with the NYG
RE: RE: Even the fact...  
jrthomps2006 : 9/19/2021 11:14 pm : link
In comment 15377080 Producer said:
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In comment 15377074 bw in dc said:


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that Jones and LJax are #8 makes it even harder to differentiate them as players.

We just need more RPO. Jones legs are a huge advantage for him. We don’t need to emulate the Ravens offense - LJax is a human video game. Just need to keep defenses off balance.



But seriously wouldn't you want to see them emulate the Baltimore LJax offense for Jones? It would be interesting, no?
Lamar  
WillVAB : 9/19/2021 11:15 pm : link
Dumbest QB in the NFL, can’t throw. Flipping into the EZ instead of setting team up for 2 point conversion. He’ll be sleeping under a bridge in 10 years.
The lack of defense is startling.  
PetesHereNow : 9/19/2021 11:15 pm : link
Between the lack of defense and the flags on a lot of plays, football isn’t as fun for me as it was even though 5-10 years ago
I don't think I know one single person  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 11:16 pm : link
Who even thinks about taking a date to Applebees
RE: The lack of defense is startling.  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15377087 PetesHereNow said:
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Between the lack of defense and the flags on a lot of plays, football isn’t as fun for me as it was even though 5-10 years ago


Offense, specifically passing offense, rules the league.

remember the saying, "chicks dig the longball"?
RE: RE: Producer  
joeinpa : 9/19/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15377071 christian said:
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In comment 15377067 ryanmkeane said:


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Guys like you and Terps have the same issue: you fail to understand (actually you do understand, you’re just playing dumb) that nobody on this message board is saying that Jones is in the same category as Jackson as a player, they aren’t even close yet.

You create this straw man argument for yourself when people criticize Jackson for his shitty playoff performances.



You must have missed who and how Jones was introduced into this game thread.



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I know Jones has turned
joeinpa : 8:56 pm : link : reply
The ball over bunch his first two seasons, but honestly. I ve seen several terrible throws today, by several good young quarterbacks, that had Daniel thrown them, they would be held as examples of why he will never be A quality NFL quarterback.



Go ahead and re-read the thread from that point on. You think the implication is that Jones isn’t “even close yet.”

Why don’t you ask BBS or Joe if they feel that way.


I do feel sheepish about that post, I derailed the thread, that was not my intention.

I know Jones’ play to this point hasn’t earned the same respect as Jackson and some others. But my pt was: Quarterbacks who have achieved the stature of, “ The Guy” make similar mistakes.

It simply to imply those mistakes don’t preclude Daniel from reaching that status, if he learns to limit them.

I do believe the established narrative about him sometimes skews objectively where his mistakes are concerned, and even his good performances, like Thursday.
Wow  
jrthomps2006 : 9/19/2021 11:18 pm : link
CEH - tough one
Edwards-Helaire  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:18 pm : link
sucks
Lol  
GNewGiants : 9/19/2021 11:18 pm : link
Why would you run it? Lol

Andy took it out of Mahomes hands all 4th quarter.
......  
Route 9 : 9/19/2021 11:18 pm : link
That's what you get for having a hyphenated name
That was about the only way Baltimore was  
St. Jimmy : 9/19/2021 11:18 pm : link
stopping KC. Hell of a play.
RE: Lol  
Route 9 : 9/19/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15377095 GNewGiants said:
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Why would you run it? Lol

Andy took it out of Mahomes hands all 4th quarter.


Haha agreed
RE: That was about the only way Baltimore was  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15377097 St. Jimmy said:
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stopping KC. Hell of a play.

By a rookie no less
Never ever ever  
GNewGiants : 9/19/2021 11:20 pm : link
Take the ball out of your best players hands especially from the 35 yard line haha
RE: Never ever ever  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15377100 GNewGiants said:
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Take the ball out of your best players hands especially from the 35 yard line haha

Great point.
Holy crap  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 11:21 pm : link
KC actually played Defense
Now that's how you play to win!  
Gmen703 : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
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I think going for it  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
was the obvious call.
Andy reid  
GNewGiants : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
Has lost a shit load of games like that.
Judge would have punted and relied on the defense  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
Harbaugh knows better
Great call by Harbaugh  
jrthomps2006 : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
Perfect situational coaching
Balls right there.  
St. Jimmy : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
Well done. Fuck Andy Reid.
Helluva a call  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 11:22 pm : link
By Harbaugh
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Banks : 9/19/2021 11:23 pm : link
a lot of nail biters this week. Sad way for KC to lose
Judge would have punted there 100 times out of 100  
Giantfan21 : 9/19/2021 11:23 pm : link
Great decision by Harbaugh to go for it on 4th down there knowing if they gave the ball back to Mahomes they likely score
Nobody else noticed the constant false starts by Baltimore all night  
OBJ_AllDay : 9/19/2021 11:23 pm : link
That weren’t called?
Giants would have punted  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/19/2021 11:23 pm : link
I guarantee Judge would have not gone for it, they are too conservative. Baltimore, yes they have Lamar but they knew they have a better chance of victory with the best running QB ever getting 3 yards than giving the ball back to Mahomes.
Every weekend I see guys I wanted the Giants to draft  
NY-Fan : 9/19/2021 11:23 pm : link
making plays all over the league and many of them turn out to be stars. Most of the time the Giants draft someone that makes me not very excited and they are just average. It frustrates the hell out of me.
good game  
Del Shofner : 9/19/2021 11:24 pm : link
are you not entertained?
This was like watching the alternate ending  
beatrixkiddo : 9/19/2021 11:24 pm : link
To the Giants game. If only Judge had the balls and smarts that Harbaugh does.
And that is the new  
joeinpa : 9/19/2021 11:25 pm : link
NFL!

Going 4 th and 1, up 1 pt on your own 35.

Hate to admit it, but don’t think Giants would even consider it

I don’t like it, wish Chiefs had stopped them.
Lamar was Superman  
HomerJones45 : 9/19/2021 11:25 pm : link
In the second half. Outplayed Mahomes which does not happen very often.
RE: Every weekend I see guys I wanted the Giants to draft  
Giantfan21 : 9/19/2021 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15377114 NY-Fan said:
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making plays all over the league and many of them turn out to be stars. Most of the time the Giants draft someone that makes me not very excited and they are just average. It frustrates the hell out of me.


Has been going on for years. That's why it doesn't matter if DG is gone as long as the rest of the front office and scouts are still employed
I still can’t believe KC  
GNewGiants : 9/19/2021 11:26 pm : link
Ran it. Coaches overthink. Let your best player win the game.
RE: I still can’t believe KC  
beatrixkiddo : 9/19/2021 11:27 pm : link
In comment 15377121 GNewGiants said:
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Ran it. Coaches overthink. Let your best player win the game.


Yeah I would have kept passing, I understand the need to burn the clock and just get into FG range, but they don’t have a RB you can really rely on.
difference between loser coach and winner coach  
nym172 : 9/19/2021 11:28 pm : link
wow judge descisions look foolish you have to be aggressive in the modern nfl 100% judge punts that ball.
Seriously I follow college football pretty close  
NY-Fan : 9/19/2021 11:28 pm : link
and really get into the draft. Time and time again there are players that fill a need and are better prospects then who the Giants pick and they turn out to be stars and I just don't understand their thinking.
RE: RE: I still can’t believe KC  
GNewGiants : 9/19/2021 11:29 pm : link
In comment 15377123 beatrixkiddo said:
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Ran it. Coaches overthink. Let your best player win the game.



Yeah I would have kept passing, I understand the need to burn the clock and just get into FG range, but they don’t have a RB you can really rely on.


I mean you can throw 3-5 yard passes. Outside a dumb decision - Mahomes was perfect all night.
RE: I still can’t believe KC  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:29 pm : link
In comment 15377121 GNewGiants said:
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Ran it. Coaches overthink. Let your best player win the game.


especially CEH.. he's not very good.
judge....  
thrunthrublue : 9/19/2021 11:30 pm : link
would have been behind 35 to 3.......0 and 2 has the potential to expand out to 0 and 6 before you know it. he has already beed as close as he will get in '21.
RE: Seriously I follow college football pretty close  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:30 pm : link
In comment 15377125 NY-Fan said:
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and really get into the draft. Time and time again there are players that fill a need and are better prospects then who the Giants pick and they turn out to be stars and I just don't understand their thinking.


I agree. It's weird. The Toney pick is a good example. The Giants could have added Paye AND Oweh. Imagine that.
RE: judge....  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15377128 thrunthrublue said:
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would have been behind 35 to 3.......0 and 2 has the potential to expand out to 0 and 6 before you know it. he has already beed as close as he will get in '21.


Jones and Golladay MUST figure out their connection. I think that's why Golladay was upset. You have to throw it to Golladay with anticipation when he is covered.
Yep, when they took Beckham it was out of the blue for me  
NY-Fan : 9/19/2021 11:35 pm : link
I was all in on Donald.The Flowers pick and Apple pick also were head scratchers for me. Yes Oweh was one I was really high on.
Judge doesn't have Lamar Jackson  
Go Terps : 9/19/2021 11:36 pm : link
He's got Jones and a running back that wouldn't have gotten the 2 yards on 4th down.

Oh and Baltimore picked Oweh 11 picks after we picked Toney. I wasn't aware rookie first rounders were allowed to make plays in big spots.
RE: Nobody else noticed the constant false starts by Baltimore all night  
bw in dc : 9/19/2021 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15377112 OBJ_AllDay said:
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That weren’t called?


Not all night, but someone definitely moved early on that last TD LJ scored rolling to the right.

BTW, anyone else notice some nice crunching blocks Zeitler threw tonight?

Zeitler must feel like he has a new lease on life  
Go Terps : 9/19/2021 11:39 pm : link
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RE: Zeitler must feel like he has a new lease on life  
Producer : 9/19/2021 11:40 pm : link
In comment 15377137 Go Terps said:
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And Devonta Freeman looked a lot quicker than his Giants stint.
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