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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 8:34 am


Monday, September 20, 2021

Head Coach Joe Judge – Approx. 3:10 p.m.

Practice – 3:30 p.m. – 5:00 p.m.

Players Available – After Practice

This week needs to be about  
jvm52106 : 9/20/2021 10:54 am : link
building off the good of weeks 1 and 2 and about repairing the D which has been trash.

I want to see Jones allowed to use the full play book and full on attack mode from start to end. We need to bury the Falcons early and not let up on the gas.
RE: This week needs to be about  
gmenrule-va : 9/20/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15377460 jvm52106 said:
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building off the good of weeks 1 and 2 and about repairing the D which has been trash.

I want to see Jones allowed to use the full play book and full on attack mode from start to end. We need to bury the Falcons early and not let up on the gas.


Absolutely. They nearly creeped back into the game against Tampa Bay.
Hard to imagine  
bLiTz 2k : 9/20/2021 11:46 am : link
another must win game before september is over..but here we are.

The falcons are interesting..they have 2018 Giants vibes to me...taking a top skill player instead of ripping the bandaid off at QB.

This week is all on the defense IMO...Coverage issues aside, Williams and Lawrence have been silent through 2 weeks. Matt Ryan is probably the least mobile QB in football right now, so if theres a week these guys can wake up and get after it, its this one.
I saw the tweet above by Pat Leonard  
jvm52106 : 9/20/2021 12:03 pm : link
about the Dallas D being improved week 2 over week 1. There is a very obvious answer there, the Chargers Ol is beat up and just couldn't deal with the speed of the Dallas D. Herbert also had a bad game and a lot of stupid penalties cost the Chargers. If am a Dallas fan I am more worried how their O could only produce 17pts after what it did against TB. BUT, people forget TB gave them 4 turnovers and a few in the Red zone.

The Giants are still in the NFC East race BUT they have to start learning how to win games and more importantly, how not to LOSE them!
I've never  
Joey in VA : 9/20/2021 12:36 pm : link
Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.
RE: I've never  
hitdog42 : 9/20/2021 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


all of this and more- well put
RE: I've never  
prdave73 : 9/20/2021 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


Agree 1000%
Meanwhile DG is still GM.. smh..
RE: I've never  
Chris684 : 9/20/2021 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


So Toney is a bust now too? Already?

Weren't you saying the same about Andrew Thomas who is looking better and better each week?
Joey lol  
JonC : 9/20/2021 1:15 pm : link
Parsons and Oweh were two targets of mine, great minds, brother.
RE: RE: I've never  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/20/2021 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15377625 Chris684 said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



So Toney is a bust now too? Already?

Weren't you saying the same about Andrew Thomas who is looking better and better each week?

Does it have to be all or nothing?

Can we acknowledge that there's something up with Toney without it being a declaration that he's permanently a bust?

It's just my personal POV, but the fact that Toney doesn't even get any run on the return teams suggests to me that he's in Judge's doghouse. And that, combined with what sounds like a slow absorption of the playbook, does signal some red flags.

The jury is still out on Toney, no question about it - he may still turn into a good or even great player, but the early returns are not encouraging, even after just two games.
I don't think we should be putting Parsons in the hall yet, Norton was  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/20/2021 1:23 pm : link
literally playing in the XFL. He may not even be an NFL player. That's where he did most his damage. People are remembering the sack, but Herbert literally had all day before he tried to get rid of it. Primetime next week against the Eagles and they have two very good tackles. I think we see a different story.
RE: I've never  
Jeffrey : 9/20/2021 1:31 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


True. I just cancelled plans this weekend to see them play in LA against the Chargers. Cannot justify the money for the product on the field.
Gatorade  
JonC : 9/20/2021 1:32 pm : link
on target.
RE: I've never  
M.S. : 9/20/2021 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.

Yep. It’s my wife’s birthday this coming Sunday and I am gladly missing my first Giants game in many, many years.

Gladly.
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AcidTest : 9/20/2021 1:43 pm : link
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



all of this and more- well put


+2. And this isn't a recent problem. We're the worst team in the league by win percentage since 2017.
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AcidTest : 9/20/2021 1:45 pm : link
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



all of this and more- well put



+2. And this isn't a recent problem. We're the worst team in the league by win percentage since 2017.


I will add that I think it's too early to make any judgments about Toney, and that calling him a moron is completely unwarranted.
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Gatorade Dunk : 9/20/2021 1:49 pm : link
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



all of this and more- well put



+2. And this isn't a recent problem. We're the worst team in the league by win percentage since 2017.



I will add that I think it's too early to make any judgments about Toney, and that calling him a moron is completely unwarranted.

It might be early to say that it's completely unwarranted.

If there's a gap in absorbing the playbook, it's entirely possible that there could be a learning issue at play. It may not justify a pejorative term like "moron," but the sentiment wouldn't necessarily be inaccurate.
The viewpoints that everybody's else rookies are killing it  
chick310 : 9/20/2021 1:50 pm : link
while the NYG's rookies aren't don't have to reach such extremes after just two games to make a point.

But it is completely reasonable to want something out of Toney when you see other first years guys contributing within the game and even making plays when put in a good position. That Right Tackle of the Chargers was bad, but at least Dallas was making his life awful by keeping the pressure with a full dose of Micah Parsons the whole game. Oweh was often going against Joe Thuney last evening and his presence was still felt.

There simply has got to be more ways to get Toney involved in an Offensive and Special Teams game plan, no matter his limitations this summer. It's not like the Offense is overwhelmed right now with guys only making impact plays and/or no mistakes.
everybody else's  
chick310 : 9/20/2021 1:52 pm : link
excuse typo.
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BigBlueJ : 9/20/2021 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15377667 M.S. said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


Yep. It’s my wife’s birthday this coming Sunday and I am gladly missing my first Giants game in many, many years.

Gladly.


I am with this team through the GOOD and the BAD. Have been and always will be. I appreciate being a Giant fan and the great memories it has provided me during my entire life. I won't abandon them now because they are struggling as an organization.

But there is nothing wrong with taking a break and clearing your mind a little from professional sports, enjoy the free time in other ways.
I know what I said about Thomas  
Joey in VA : 9/20/2021 1:57 pm : link
I wanted him least last year but I have also pulled for him and acknowledged his growth. Don't put words in my mouth. And as for Toney, who said bust? He's an idiot WR who we took when we should have been shoring up the OL or defense. It was a mistake then and I don't think that's changed.
RE: RE: I've never  
Adirondack GMen : 9/20/2021 2:01 pm : link
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



So Toney is a bust now too? Already?

Weren't you saying the same about Andrew Thomas who is looking better and better each week?


So far all Toney has done is walk around with his hood up and smile a la. Max Headroom! Something just ain’t right there!
Toney has always felt like a forced pick..  
Sean : 9/20/2021 2:01 pm : link
A reach to help Jones. Nothing which has happened has made me change my stance.
Actually they wanted the LB  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/20/2021 2:04 pm : link
that WFT took at 19. Dave told Jeremiah on NFL Network that. So they recognized they needed a impact LB. They also acknowledged a couple of lineman they liked were picked in rounds 2 and 3.

I think it is premature on Toney. If he is in the doghouse then Judge needs to find a way to lead him out of it pronto.
Why  
Toth029 : 9/20/2021 2:25 pm : link
Do people say Toney is undersized?

He's 6'0", 193 lbs.
RE: Why  
Chris684 : 9/20/2021 2:51 pm : link
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Do people say Toney is undersized?

He's 6'0", 193 lbs.


Because they haven't seen him play yet and the pick has to be a bad one, so, why not!?
RE: RE: Why  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/20/2021 3:19 pm : link
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Do people say Toney is undersized?

He's 6'0", 193 lbs.



Because they haven't seen him play yet and the pick has to be a bad one, so, why not!?

Cute choice to select a post that you could reply to without walking back your previous nonsense. But hey, whatever, right?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:20 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - cant rule anything out with lemieux's knee but hope he avoid surgery
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:21 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Joe Judge said O-linemen Billy Price and Ben Bredeson have made a lot of gains since jumping in with the team. “We’re trying to get the best unit.” He’s not ruling anything out with Shane Lemieux in terms of the rest of the season.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:21 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - gates will not play again this season
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:22 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - solder been doong a good job at RT, so peart didnt get a chance to play in wash but he 's doing well at practice
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:22 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Judge said Matt Peart will get some work at guard this week in practice.
Bredeson's insertion  
JonC : 9/20/2021 3:22 pm : link
and the OL moving the football seem to coincide.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:22 pm : link
Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
The Giants are "very hopeful" that Shane Lemiuex's season is not over, per Joe Judge. But reality is he's consulting doctors about potential procedures, Lemiuex has been dealing with a knee injury.
RE: ...  
christian : 9/20/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15377791 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - solder been doong a good job at RT, so peart didnt get a chance to play in wash but he 's doing well at practice


Woof
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:28 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - AJax ankle improving ....must assume the ankle will bother him some for the rest of the year but he is doing better
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:28 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge on Kenny Golladay: “There was no argument on the sideline. In the heat of the moment, he spoke passionately.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:28 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said Kadarius Toney’s post on Instagram had nothing to do with the Giants.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:28 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge on galloday - showed passion in heat of the moment, there was no issue with him....told toney and team to be careful with social media - dont type anyhing what needs clarification and be careful what is posted
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:29 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Nick Gates is still in DC in recovery from his surgery. #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:30 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - toney works hard...there are times anybody can be frustrated...he prepares very well and will have his chances

Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Joe Judge says he and the Giants did not hear anything from the league re Dexter Lawrence offsides flag.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2021 3:30 pm : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Evan Engram will be doing drills today and that will give the Giants a better idea of what he'll be capable of doing the rest of the week and then on Sunday against his hometown Falcons.
RE: I've never  
djm : 9/20/2021 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


PArsons went before our pick. I wanted him badly here, but we didn't pass on him. We didn't even trade away from him.
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cjac : 9/20/2021 4:05 pm : link
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



PArsons went before our pick. I wanted him badly here, but we didn't pass on him. We didn't even trade away from him.


I think you have that wrong. Dallas traded back, it was our pick next, we could have drafted Parsons but then we traded back.
Correct  
JonC : 9/20/2021 4:17 pm : link
Giants could've picked Parson at #11, they chose to trade back.
RE: I've never  
Spider56 : 9/20/2021 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


And yet you post on the Giants fan board ...get real, better yet, get lost.
Wasn't the word from our asshats  
arniefez : 9/20/2021 4:27 pm : link
that Parsons wasn't on the Giants board because of "character" issues?
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jvm52106 : 9/20/2021 4:28 pm : link
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.



PArsons went before our pick. I wanted him badly here, but we didn't pass on him. We didn't even trade away from him.



I think you have that wrong. Dallas traded back, it was our pick next, we could have drafted Parsons but then we traded back.


Correct, we moved out of that spot so he was there if we wanted him.
Parsons was off their board  
JonC : 9/20/2021 4:33 pm : link
but not mine, BPA!
RE: Wasn't the word from our asshats  
BigBlueJ : 9/20/2021 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15377935 arniefez said:
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that Parsons wasn't on the Giants board because of "character" issues?


One of many reasons why we are on the bottom quarter of teams in the NFL.
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section125 : 9/20/2021 4:39 pm : link
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Giants could've picked Parson at #11, they chose to trade back.


And Parsons was never in the conversation, IIRC, is what you said..sorry if I mis-remembered.
Yes, read above  
JonC : 9/20/2021 4:40 pm : link
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Look I don’t think the intention was to single  
prdave73 : 9/20/2021 4:59 pm : link
out Toney, Thomas, or any other Giants players. The main issue is the comparison between the Giants and other teams! Their starters vs Giants starters, their depth vs Giants depth.. There’s no comparison, Giants are failing to put together a solid team overall. Starters and especially depth! Look at the Cowboys and the quality of players they have drafted in the past 3 or 4 years?! Their offensive line online says it all! Now they are working on their defense and doing a good job of it. Can we say that about the Giants? No.. Thus the reason the Giants are in the position they are now.. Giants have lost their way, they forgot to build on the two areas of importance, and that’s the trenches, Oline & Dline! They two areas that won them 2 SB’s..
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Gatorade Dunk : 9/20/2021 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15377803 Eric from BBI said:
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Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said Kadarius Toney’s post on Instagram had nothing to do with the Giants.

"Joe Judge said that something that obviously was about the Giants, was not about the Giants. And those who are prone to pounce will pounce, while those who are prone to defend will defend. No one should take this declaration as meaningful."
Anyone can see  
Jerry in_DC : 9/20/2021 5:35 pm : link
that it was obviously about the Federal Reserve
RE: I've never  
bw in dc : 9/20/2021 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15377592 Joey in VA said:
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Been less interested in the Giants than I am now. I watched Micah Parsons terrorize the Chargers, he's a difference maker on defense and we take an undersized moron WR. Other teams are lapping us in player acquisition. The Ravens were without their LT and had two new starters on the OL and have lost their top 2 RBs and they physically whipped the Chiefs. Oh and Jayson Oweh was a monster too, another available player we passed on. This college scouting is as bad as it's ever been. Fuck we stink.


Nice to see you finding your old form...;)
RE: Parsons was off their board  
UberAlias : 9/20/2021 7:27 pm : link
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but not mine, BPA!
So Parsons was off their board but no concerns with Toney? Are we sure they aren’t getting character input from Jerry Jones?
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