That our vaunted Secondary would allow opposing QBs to complete a whopping 76% of their passes after two games, and that James Bradberry would play like a street free agent?
No doubt, the Giants non-existent pass rush hasn't helped matters any, but whatever.
Has 2021 come down to the third game of the season against Atlanta? Seems ridiculous, but maybe not so crazy when you're the New York Football Giants. At 0-3 there won't be much to play for anymore. Just individual jobs and individual pride and dignity.
That's it.
If you'd have told me the Giants would have a terrible pass D I'd've never believed it. But they do.
And a terrible defense overall, so far. Incredible. The 2017 D let me down in a similar fashion. (Sh)It happens.
Same here.
I don’t like it....the big question I keep asking is why is the D going to play better week 3 and beyond? Why were weeks 1-2 the anomaly? I can’t come up with an answer that isn’t bad and scary. Please prove me wrong.
And it's not like the Giants ignored the front 7 as alluded to in this thread. THey devoted a lot of resources to it. Martinez is a big money player at LB. Multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks at edge. First round talents at DL with Lawrence and Williams.
The D just has to play better. The Giants didn't just rub sticks together and hope for a miracle. They have been building this D for 3 years now.
I will continue to die on the hill that it starts and ends with coaching. GMs and scouting get a lot of talk but to me, especially with a franchise like the Giants that is moribund and stuck, the only way out is with excellent coaching. And we aren't seeing it here. Again.
Yeah that makes sense Jon.
How you doing brother?
Doing well my friend. both kids in college now... oopha
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howabout you and your fam?
Doing well my friend. both kids in college now... oopha
And we're in our 50s, wtf does the time go.
He started slow in Miami and finished strong and the same thing happened last year. We are seeing the same trend this year
Looked to be too many breakdowns in coverage and trouble matching up with the TEs versus Denver. Against WFT, it just seemed generally too soft all around including LBs in coverage. But there were times that the CBs just got beat by WRs making a play when they were manned up.
Have to imagine they are going to shake things up some in getting ready for Falcons. Would also expect Bradberry to rebound as he is a pretty solid player and can't be satisfied with his overall play this year.
This is as must a win as must wins come.
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howabout you and your fam?
Doing well my friend. both kids in college now... oopha
And we're in our 50s, wtf does the time go.
Yep for sure. I feel like someone hit the FF button... lol
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anything year to year in the NFL.
If you'd have told me the Giants would have a terrible pass D I'd've never believed it. But they do.
And a terrible defense overall, so far. Incredible. The 2017 D let me down in a similar fashion. (Sh)It happens.
Same here.
I don’t like it....the big question I keep asking is why is the D going to play better week 3 and beyond? Why were weeks 1-2 the anomaly? I can’t come up with an answer that isn’t bad and scary. Please prove me wrong.
okay lets go with this...
The players are not getting "torched". What you are seeing are guys out of position or not in position to make a play on the ball.
When I see this, it tells me scheme and communication are the problems vs talent. So, this can absolutely be fixed and it is not the first time we started a season looking like this on defense only to turn it around.
We do not know what Graham changed during the off season with the scheme and language. We do not know why they are playing zone too much for my liking when we have guys who know how to cover.
When I see the scheme, it is not taking advantage of the players we have on the back end. So, the only explanation is they do not trust the front 4
If anything the scheming isn't protecting the defensive backfield, it's leaving it vulnerable.
It's so hard to predict year to year what you've got.
This year, we all assumed the Giants would build on their #9 overall ranking.
The problem is - you have to discount for
*Guys playing over their heads in contract years
*Expensive UFA's in their "Honeymoon year".
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Great players playing with motivation have great years. And what motivates pro players? $$$$$$$$.
Last year, the Giants had 2 top notch DT's Leonard Williams & Dalvin Tomlinson in a contract years. They also spent big $$$ in UFA and got Honeymoon Years from CB James Bradberry, MLB Blake Martinez and FS Logan Ryan. It's always a fun first year with an expensive UFA. They are playing nice, on their best behavior, trying to live up to that big contract and show the new city who they are. Human nature.
After that, sometimes the narrative changes quickly. It may not even be a conscious decision on the part of the player, but some combination of the hunger being gone and age setting in - and there's regression instead of the organic linear step forward. This year, they'll get a Honeymoon Year from Adoree Jackson but that's about it. Are any of their other difference makers hungry? Can this coaching staff motivate them to be?
I hope this isn't what we're seeing, but it's hard to dismiss it. We saw it in 2017 with an outstanding 2016 Giants D. The wheels came off the McAdoo train and the D was an embarrassment. I couldn't stand McAdoo but I remember being fired up for that 17 Giants D, too.