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LTIsTheGreatest : 9/20/2021 9:12 am
Was there any doubt who the league or refs wanted to win that game? Ridiculous! They take 2 TDs for the Chargers off the board for ticky-tacky penalties. Meantime, there was a pass in the end zone where the Cowboy defender was completely screening the Charger receiver and not even looking back for the ball. No PI call.
Speaking of the Cowboys  
M.S. : 9/20/2021 9:25 am : link

Dak Prescott is completing 76.5% of his passes, which is almost the same rate that opposing QBs have achieved against our defense after two games.

Dak is also averaging 320 yards passing per game, so he's salivating over his two upcoming games against the Giants.
RE: Speaking of the Cowboys  
5BowlsSoon : 9/20/2021 9:54 am : link
In comment 15377332 M.S. said:
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Dak Prescott is completing 76.5% of his passes, which is almost the same rate that opposing QBs have achieved against our defense after two games.

Dak is also averaging 320 yards passing per game, so he's salivating over his two upcoming games against the Giants.


Who would have said this, let alone thought this before the season began?
Some were saying our secondary is the top 5 secondary in all the NFL.

Are they still saying that today?

But….I hope Graham is learning just as I hope Garrett and Judge are learning through their mistakes.
Dak is a legit top 5 NFL QB...  
Dnew15 : 9/20/2021 10:03 am : link
I like Herbert - but he's not in the same class as Dak...yet....
RE: Dak is a legit top 5 NFL QB...  
GNewGiants : 9/20/2021 10:04 am : link
In comment 15377390 Dnew15 said:
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I like Herbert - but he's not in the same class as Dak...yet....


top 5?

Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Allen may have a claim in it. And Murray and Jackson are right there as well.
That just happens when you have an  
rebel yell : 9/20/2021 10:09 am : link
owner with the influence of Jerry. A lot of behind the scenes maneuvering that we're not aware of, but that most definitely occurs.
Sure...  
Dnew15 : 9/20/2021 10:10 am : link
I think you could debate all those guys and have a reasonable, defendable position for rating them top 5.

I'm looking at it through the "If I were starting an NFL franchise and I had to name the top 5 QBs who would they be" kind of lense.

But yeah - I get what you're saying.
That was well beyond bad officiating  
Prude : 9/20/2021 10:47 am : link
From the start of the 2nd quarter you could count on a late flag coming out every time the Chargers made a positive play. I can't remember a game that was so obviously fixed in all my years watching football.
waiting for HErbert  
djm : 9/20/2021 10:55 am : link
to show me he's this can't miss end all be all QB. He was nice year 1, his team scored 385 pts while he posted very very impressive stats, but they are just stats. His talents are for real. Go out and score points and win games before I buy in that he's the next Dan Fouts.
I don't even see mention of the most egregious call IMO  
KDavies : 9/20/2021 11:15 am : link
the call of Hebert being sacked, when it was an obvious incomplete pass. Absolutely bizarre. Cost them about 20 yards.

Just an awful officiated game.
As much as I absolutely hate the cowboys, I have no sympathy for the  
Spider56 : 9/20/2021 11:43 am : link
Chargers. They abandoned San Diego and their loyal fans for greener pastures and bright lights. I hope they enjoy playing 17 road games a season.
There was  
pjcas18 : 9/20/2021 11:47 am : link
a thread on this and there was actually people defending the refs and saying all those calls where 100% the right call. Maybe Zeke's Alibi? I can't remember and don't care to look it up because my point is not personal against any of them, but holy shit, I get the need some people have to separate themselves and be a contrarian, but they looked like asses. I watched that game and as a fan of neither team it certainly felt like almost all the bad calls were one way.

I am not suggesting anything nefarious beyond bad officiating, but the Chargers were the unfortunate recipient of the bulk of it.
RE: waiting for HErbert  
bw in dc : 9/20/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15377463 djm said:
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to show me he's this can't miss end all be all QB. He was nice year 1, his team scored 385 pts while he posted very very impressive stats, but they are just stats. His talents are for real. Go out and score points and win games before I buy in that he's the next Dan Fouts.


Did you watch the game? There was some bizarre situations, especially the penalties.

I just saw the INT Herbert threw in the end zone from a different angle. Herbert was targeting Allen to run a slant and Allen was going to be there. A total timing route.

But Allen got tripped by Kearse and fell down. And the more I see it, the more I think it was intentional.

It was just one of those days for the Chargers...
RE: RE: waiting for HErbert  
Joe Beckwith : 9/20/2021 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15377541 bw in dc said:
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to show me he's this can't miss end all be all QB. He was nice year 1, his team scored 385 pts while he posted very very impressive stats, but they are just stats. His talents are for real. Go out and score points and win games before I buy in that he's the next Dan Fouts.



Did you watch the game? There was some bizarre situations, especially the penalties.

I just saw the INT Herbert threw in the end zone from a different angle. Herbert was targeting Allen to run a slant and Allen was going to be there. A total timing route.

But Allen got tripped by Kearse and fell down. And the more I see it, the more I think it was intentional.

It was just one of those days for the Chargers...


Allen fell, or tripped, at least 3 times yesterday. 2 of them in key situations,
either one of which is a score.
I get the in the grasp call after 10 yards of Herbert going backwards, but you most often see the QB get the benefit.

Herbert is the real deal; not that I dislike DJ, but JH is special….wish he’d come out when we hoped.
RE: RE: waiting for HErbert  
djm : 9/20/2021 3:15 pm : link
In comment 15377541 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15377463 djm said:


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to show me he's this can't miss end all be all QB. He was nice year 1, his team scored 385 pts while he posted very very impressive stats, but they are just stats. His talents are for real. Go out and score points and win games before I buy in that he's the next Dan Fouts.



Did you watch the game? There was some bizarre situations, especially the penalties.

I just saw the INT Herbert threw in the end zone from a different angle. Herbert was targeting Allen to run a slant and Allen was going to be there. A total timing route.

But Allen got tripped by Kearse and fell down. And the more I see it, the more I think it was intentional.

It was just one of those days for the Chargers...


ok...cool. Still waiting.
and yes  
djm : 9/20/2021 3:16 pm : link
I watched the entire game. Herbert looked OK. Through two weeks, he looks....OK.

It's almost as if the new coaching staff and system is causing some problems for Justin this year.
RE: and yes  
bw in dc : 9/20/2021 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15377783 djm said:
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I watched the entire game. Herbert looked OK. Through two weeks, he looks....OK.

It's almost as if the new coaching staff and system is causing some problems for Justin this year.


You may be stubborn, but you aren't stupid.

If you could trade Jones straight up right now for Herbert you do it without blinking. Surely you see his amazing throwing skills...
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