that BBI activity is up during losing seasons. We’re all just bunch of whiners.
There is nothing surprising about this. In a winning season, the day after the game we can say Yay, I love it, so and so looked good, and also so and so, I think we can win next week. Not much of substance after that. In a losing season, everybody will chime in about what they think went wrong, in depth analysis of everyone's technique, breaking down the play calls, the coaching philosophy, the players' attitudes, strategy, who should be let go, next years draft, and on and on. Just more to talk about.
People like to complain and everyone thinks they have the answer. But no one can actually do anything about it except tell everyone else they are wrong and stupid and delusional. Of course the traffic spikes, too many egos.
Bad news is always good news - that has stood the test of time.
where they went to the playoffs and got immediately dismissed.
Even in 2007 and 2011, the team went 10-6 and 9-7, not exactly dominant. The only year I can recall lately where the Giants were dominant were 2008, and that team lost in the first round to the fucking Eagles because our best WR shot himself.
So yes, I am negative about this team. I do not think the right people are in place to manage this team back to greatness, and what's more, the people making the decisions about who to hire are stuck in 50s. I wish it wasn't so.
This is a great example of Giant fan idiocy and why a lot of this has nothing to do with the last 4 seasons.
They won 2 Super Bowls in a 4 year period...but hey! They weren't "dominant"!
I've had more arguments about Eli Manning's achievements with Giants fans than I have outsiders. My Dad is a Jets fan and my father in law is a Cowboys fan and they would have bent over backwards to have Eli at QB for their team. To many other NYG fans he's JAG who "got lucky twice".
For those experts and the level-headed crowd who spends time saying people like to complain just to complain...
What on earth have you seen from this franchise that makes you not have a negative outlook for everythinf that has transpired since 2012? Any games? Particularly good moments? Favorite coaches? Being all but eliminated from playoff contention by Halloween almost every year? Going 6-10 last year? Evan engram? Getting blown out? shut out? Hail mary against Green Bay?
Hmm? Please. Convince me and others that we're all just making this up.
where they went to the playoffs and got immediately dismissed.
Even in 2007 and 2011, the team went 10-6 and 9-7, not exactly dominant. The only year I can recall lately where the Giants were dominant were 2008, and that team lost in the first round to the fucking Eagles because our best WR shot himself.
So yes, I am negative about this team. I do not think the right people are in place to manage this team back to greatness, and what's more, the people making the decisions about who to hire are stuck in 50s. I wish it wasn't so.
This is a great example of Giant fan idiocy and why a lot of this has nothing to do with the last 4 seasons.
They won 2 Super Bowls in a 4 year period...but hey! They weren't "dominant"!
I enjoyed those seasons as much as any Giants fan, and did my share of talking some sh_t before/after those Super Bowl wins.
But not sure how times I used the word "dominant" in describing them. That sounds misplaced.
people forced to eat shit sandwiches for 10 years really hate the taste of shit sandwiches.
I don't know. There are still people telling us to enjoy it.
It's going to taste better any week now, really
wasn't it ten years ago that the Giants won a SuperBowl? Maybe you just need a different food truck?
Man the bar is so low. A championship ten years ago is worth a decade of garbage?
I would trade another SuperBowl this year for another 10 years after of what we just had. Maybe that is just me though. If you don't win the Superbowl you are just Marty Schottenheimer Chief's in the late 80s-90s.
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
RE: RE: The Giants have been terrible for 10 years, minus a blip of one year
where they went to the playoffs and got immediately dismissed.
Even in 2007 and 2011, the team went 10-6 and 9-7, not exactly dominant. The only year I can recall lately where the Giants were dominant were 2008, and that team lost in the first round to the fucking Eagles because our best WR shot himself.
So yes, I am negative about this team. I do not think the right people are in place to manage this team back to greatness, and what's more, the people making the decisions about who to hire are stuck in 50s. I wish it wasn't so.
This is a great example of Giant fan idiocy and why a lot of this has nothing to do with the last 4 seasons.
They won 2 Super Bowls in a 4 year period...but hey! They weren't "dominant"!
I've had more arguments about Eli Manning's achievements with Giants fans than I have outsiders. My Dad is a Jets fan and my father in law is a Cowboys fan and they would have bent over backwards to have Eli at QB for their team. To many other NYG fans he's JAG who "got lucky twice".
It was a question about negativity. Even during those years we won the Super Bowl, how fun was the year? In 2007, we had the Viking game and got housed by the Cowboys twice. Yes, the super bowl made up for it but its not like that whole year was fun.
But hey, I'll keep paying for my season tickets. You have fun arguing with your friends about Eli.
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
RE: If you aren’t upset now, you’ll never be upset
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Winning a SB every year maybe, but it's possible to win a SB and then ya know still be good after too even without repeating. This stretch of futility has used up the goodwill from the 2011 Superbowl.
who think they will be good every year. I give a chuckle and move on. Or I can lecture them incessantly about how stupid they are, because that’s also very productive.
who think they will be good every year. I give a chuckle and move on. Or I can lecture them incessantly about how stupid they are, because that’s also very productive.
Unfortunately you could substitute the Giants for the Jets in that sentence and it would still be applicable. Both of these teams being non-competitive year in and year out is something that almost doesn't need to be said.
In the grand scheme of things, we have been fortunate as Giants fans. This century alone...3 Super Bowl appearances & 2 UFB Super Bowl wins. The last decade's been tough, but hopefully JJ is the guy moving forward. Hope springs eternal?
I couldn’t care less, my point remains. Lecturing people all day long about an opinion, especially for a game, is pretty sad after a while. It’s why people think others enjoy it, because they do. And misery loves company.
Or maybe they are just sharing their opinion as a fan, even with some
intent. What’s sad is downplaying that as meaningless just because it doesn’t change how the team plays, or that fans express opinions with a purpose to call others just plain stupid.
Lecturing people about not lecturing is really where it’s at.
that BBI activity is up during losing seasons. We’re all just bunch of whiners.
There is nothing surprising about this. In a winning season, the day after the game we can say Yay, I love it, so and so looked good, and also so and so, I think we can win next week. Not much of substance after that. In a losing season, everybody will chime in about what they think went wrong, in depth analysis of everyone's technique, breaking down the play calls, the coaching philosophy, the players' attitudes, strategy, who should be let go, next years draft, and on and on. Just more to talk about.
People like to complain and everyone thinks they have the answer. But no one can actually do anything about it except tell everyone else they are wrong and stupid and delusional. Of course the traffic spikes, too many egos.
Bad news is always good news - that has stood the test of time.
And then the ones that only want to hear only positive of their team resort to insults calling other posters miserable fucks and make up things like posters that have had common sense realizing the team would suck actually are rooting for their team to lose.
In other words with these posters that if you don't root for the team the way I want you to - you are a miserable fuck. And then I'm going to make up some fantasy like the one that disagrees with my optimism means they want their team to lose.
"fair weather". Yea, I don't think he's using that right. We have been losing for 8 years now and doing so dreadfully in all of them. If not for facing a string of backup qbs in 2 seasons, our record would be super pathetic. The lone exception is 2016, but that offense was so bad you felt that any team could beat them. We go into the game being negative at this point. Losing doesn't move the needle much.
You want fair weather fans. Look to teams that have been competitive or winning and then want to blow the whole thing up after a loss. I live outside of philly. If any team meets that criteria, it's the eagles. In the last 20 years, they've only had 5 losing season (2 of them being 7-9 and one with Mike fricking McMahon at qb for half the year). Yet there's never been a coach or qb they didn't want to run out of town besides saint buddy...
But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
Generally those insults are due to being pushed.
When a fan posts something on the forum about how they really like(d) something and a good conversation gets hijacked by a myriad of angry Karen’s still trying to figure out if they should leave their boyfriends…
…”miserable fuck” sits just about right.
But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
Generally those insults are due to being pushed.
When a fan posts something on the forum about how they really like(d) something and a good conversation gets hijacked by a myriad of angry Karen’s still trying to figure out if they should leave their boyfriends…
…”miserable fuck” sits just about right.
That's a load of crap. It's common though. Posts that people like you/they make are generally the same type of excuses you/ they make about the team too. They all go hand in hand.
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
Crisis? Oh wow ok.... This is the NFL...things change fast. Our Defense gets back on track and we will start winning and if we don't we have two 1sts next year with probably a new GM. Negative people always say I am not negative I am a realist... Well Realistically we either improve this year or we have a lot of ammo next year to make us better. Most of our good talent is locked up for multiple years and we add to it. You guys get freaking crazy and act like your are some super fan because you are "calling it like you see it" and "this team sucks for so long we get to be mad!"
Bro it is the NFL, where the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs is usually a few plays in a few games. That is the whole truth of it. Offsides on a missed FG? one play that changed a 1-1 start. If you can't handle it maybe this isn't the sport for you.
But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
Generally those insults are due to being pushed.
When a fan posts something on the forum about how they really like(d) something and a good conversation gets hijacked by a myriad of angry Karen’s still trying to figure out if they should leave their boyfriends…
…”miserable fuck” sits just about right.
That's a load of crap. It's common though. Posts that people like you/they make are generally the same type of excuses you/ they make about the team too. They all go hand in hand.
Excuses? This has got to be the most misunderstood word on BBI.
Couple of things:
- Nothing in my post suggests anything about excuses. Karen shows up when Giants fans are trying to enjoy things.
- "People like me" - What excuses did I make? Pick ANY post...you make it sound like I am doing something regularly that in fact, I don't do.
"fair weather". Yea, I don't think he's using that right. We have been losing for 8 years now and doing so dreadfully in all of them. If not for facing a string of backup qbs in 2 seasons, our record would be super pathetic. The lone exception is 2016, but that offense was so bad you felt that any team could beat them. We go into the game being negative at this point. Losing doesn't move the needle much.
You want fair weather fans. Look to teams that have been competitive or winning and then want to blow the whole thing up after a loss. I live outside of philly. If any team meets that criteria, it's the eagles. In the last 20 years, they've only had 5 losing season (2 of them being 7-9 and one with Mike fricking McMahon at qb for half the year). Yet there's never been a coach or qb they didn't want to run out of town besides saint buddy...
Yeah, and a lot of that was Andy Reid who is proving again out in KC how good he is. It's a shame that when they ran him out of town there wasn't an opening here.
Yeah, and a lot of that was Andy Reid who is proving again out in KC how good he is. It's a shame that when they ran him out of town there wasn't an opening here.
Would have been particularly sweet to see him leading the Giants to beatings of the Eagles on the regular.
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
Crisis? Oh wow ok.... This is the NFL...things change fast. Our Defense gets back on track and we will start winning and if we don't we have two 1sts next year with probably a new GM. Negative people always say I am not negative I am a realist... Well Realistically we either improve this year or we have a lot of ammo next year to make us better. Most of our good talent is locked up for multiple years and we add to it. You guys get freaking crazy and act like your are some super fan because you are "calling it like you see it" and "this team sucks for so long we get to be mad!"
Bro it is the NFL, where the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs is usually a few plays in a few games. That is the whole truth of it. Offsides on a missed FG? one play that changed a 1-1 start. If you can't handle it maybe this isn't the sport for you.
We've had ammo to get better for years, and this roster is still terrible.
It doesn't matter how many draft picks you have if the people making the picks are incompetent. We've had 6 first round picks since 2018, and we didn't do a good job with a single one of those picks (maybe Lawrence...but I'm not even sure about him).
Absolutely a state of crisis.
Terps has been spot on with this team for a very long time
they've had too many misses with premium resources, and that doesn't just apply to the Gettleman regime, which suggests that the fish rots from the head down.
Luckily I'm not 13 anymore and live and die by the Giants, but I'm still stinging after really bad losses. For example, outside of this message board, I haven't consumed any Giants content since Thursday night.
I couldn’t care less, my point remains. Lecturing people all day long about an opinion, especially for a game, is pretty sad after a while. It’s why people think others enjoy it, because they do. And misery loves company.
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So help me understand the difference...
If it is pointless to lecture someone that their team actually sucks, why is it not pointless to lecture someone that their team is awesome?
The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
Crisis? Oh wow ok.... This is the NFL...things change fast. Our Defense gets back on track and we will start winning and if we don't we have two 1sts next year with probably a new GM. Negative people always say I am not negative I am a realist... Well Realistically we either improve this year or we have a lot of ammo next year to make us better. Most of our good talent is locked up for multiple years and we add to it. You guys get freaking crazy and act like your are some super fan because you are "calling it like you see it" and "this team sucks for so long we get to be mad!"
Bro it is the NFL, where the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs is usually a few plays in a few games. That is the whole truth of it. Offsides on a missed FG? one play that changed a 1-1 start. If you can't handle it maybe this isn't the sport for you.
We've had ammo to get better for years, and this roster is still terrible.
It doesn't matter how many draft picks you have if the people making the picks are incompetent. We've had 6 first round picks since 2018, and we didn't do a good job with a single one of those picks (maybe Lawrence...but I'm not even sure about him).
Absolutely a state of crisis.
And if we don't get called offsides on the last play of the game... would it still be an "Absolute STATE OF CRISIS!!!" AHHHHHH HELP ME... hahaha
Last year we were a few plays in a few games from being in the playoffs... Actually in most years the last 10 years we were a few plays in a few games from being on the playoffs. This year we were literally one stupid play from being 1-1 and leading our division. Again... I don't think the NFL is for you bro. To stressful.
that BBI activity is up during losing seasons. We’re all just bunch of whiners.
There is nothing surprising about this. In a winning season, the day after the game we can say Yay, I love it, so and so looked good, and also so and so, I think we can win next week. Not much of substance after that. In a losing season, everybody will chime in about what they think went wrong, in depth analysis of everyone's technique, breaking down the play calls, the coaching philosophy, the players' attitudes, strategy, who should be let go, next years draft, and on and on. Just more to talk about.
Excuses? This has got to be the most misunderstood word on BBI.
Couple of things:
- Nothing in my post suggests anything about excuses. Karen shows up when Giants fans are trying to enjoy things.
- "People like me" - What excuses did I make? Pick ANY post...you make it sound like I am doing something regularly that in fact, I don't do.
Point 1- I specifically used the word “generally.” “Generally” does not mean “all.”
Point 2- Posts in which people post something positive and then get upset at the poster who sends something negative and wind up calling that poster a miserable fuck means they don’t agree with the poster, “generally,” correct? Insults are “generally” thrown out for a reason. It is generally a disagreement in some form.
Point 3—If the positive poster doesn’t agree with the negative poster and before the personal insults the positive poster unleashes, that positive poster “generally” provides excuses why the negative poster is wrong or the positive poster defends his excuses why he is being positive.
Point 4—I did put a slash as an indication you may or may not be with strong belief that you are an excuse maker. If you’re calling posters “miserable fucks” for specifically classifying positive posts as “good conversation.” So when people are being positive it is “good conversation.” And when they are negative it is “They are miserable fucks.” Ofc the positive posters who by the way have been wrong the past several years look to push positives on a team filled with 7 of 8 year awful football- then yeah you and others are excuse makers.
Point 5—I tied your post into joeinpa’s post because just as you seem to speak of “good conversation” inferring good conversation is “positive posts.” Joeinpa inferring that the negative posters shouldn’t be so concerned with how other posters feel about them which apparently he is implying the negative posters do. Yet he doesn’t ever seem to call out by name like he did with route9 and bw for the nutjobs that think it’s okay to call the negative posters “miserable fucks.” How often do you think joe calls out a positive poster by name?
He looks and implies one way – which apparently you do too. Just because you want to pretend that you are above-it-all; your posts speaking of “good conversation” (whose to say what “good conversation” is?”) and “miserable fucks” show quite the opposite.
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that BBI activity is up during losing seasons. We’re all just bunch of whiners.
There is nothing surprising about this. In a winning season, the day after the game we can say Yay, I love it, so and so looked good, and also so and so, I think we can win next week. Not much of substance after that. In a losing season, everybody will chime in about what they think went wrong, in depth analysis of everyone's technique, breaking down the play calls, the coaching philosophy, the players' attitudes, strategy, who should be let go, next years draft, and on and on. Just more to talk about.
People like to complain and everyone thinks they have the answer. But no one can actually do anything about it except tell everyone else they are wrong and stupid and delusional. Of course the traffic spikes, too many egos.
Bad news is always good news - that has stood the test of time.
Even in 2007 and 2011, the team went 10-6 and 9-7, not exactly dominant. The only year I can recall lately where the Giants were dominant were 2008, and that team lost in the first round to the fucking Eagles because our best WR shot himself.
So yes, I am negative about this team. I do not think the right people are in place to manage this team back to greatness, and what's more, the people making the decisions about who to hire are stuck in 50s. I wish it wasn't so.
This is a great example of Giant fan idiocy and why a lot of this has nothing to do with the last 4 seasons.
They won 2 Super Bowls in a 4 year period...but hey! They weren't "dominant"!
I've had more arguments about Eli Manning's achievements with Giants fans than I have outsiders. My Dad is a Jets fan and my father in law is a Cowboys fan and they would have bent over backwards to have Eli at QB for their team. To many other NYG fans he's JAG who "got lucky twice".
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If we were good you'd have 1 less thing to complain about which would really suck for you. So you should thank the Giants.
Yeah you're the guy who just automatically accepts that any opinion that disagrees with yours equates to complaining. Lol.
We've gone over this before many times, dude, and ... you just like shitty movies and boring shows.
+1, particularly regarding movies.
It's really is a good question.
For those experts and the level-headed crowd who spends time saying people like to complain just to complain...
What on earth have you seen from this franchise that makes you not have a negative outlook for everythinf that has transpired since 2012? Any games? Particularly good moments? Favorite coaches? Being all but eliminated from playoff contention by Halloween almost every year? Going 6-10 last year? Evan engram? Getting blown out? shut out? Hail mary against Green Bay?
Hmm? Please. Convince me and others that we're all just making this up.
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where they went to the playoffs and got immediately dismissed.
Even in 2007 and 2011, the team went 10-6 and 9-7, not exactly dominant. The only year I can recall lately where the Giants were dominant were 2008, and that team lost in the first round to the fucking Eagles because our best WR shot himself.
So yes, I am negative about this team. I do not think the right people are in place to manage this team back to greatness, and what's more, the people making the decisions about who to hire are stuck in 50s. I wish it wasn't so.
This is a great example of Giant fan idiocy and why a lot of this has nothing to do with the last 4 seasons.
They won 2 Super Bowls in a 4 year period...but hey! They weren't "dominant"!
I enjoyed those seasons as much as any Giants fan, and did my share of talking some sh_t before/after those Super Bowl wins.
But not sure how times I used the word "dominant" in describing them. That sounds misplaced.
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people forced to eat shit sandwiches for 10 years really hate the taste of shit sandwiches.
I don't know. There are still people telling us to enjoy it.
It's going to taste better any week now, really
wasn't it ten years ago that the Giants won a SuperBowl? Maybe you just need a different food truck?
Man the bar is so low. A championship ten years ago is worth a decade of garbage?
I would trade another SuperBowl this year for another 10 years after of what we just had. Maybe that is just me though. If you don't win the Superbowl you are just Marty Schottenheimer Chief's in the late 80s-90s.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
NYG since the boat picture: 18-49
NYG under Gettleman: 15-35
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
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where they went to the playoffs and got immediately dismissed.
Even in 2007 and 2011, the team went 10-6 and 9-7, not exactly dominant. The only year I can recall lately where the Giants were dominant were 2008, and that team lost in the first round to the fucking Eagles because our best WR shot himself.
So yes, I am negative about this team. I do not think the right people are in place to manage this team back to greatness, and what's more, the people making the decisions about who to hire are stuck in 50s. I wish it wasn't so.
This is a great example of Giant fan idiocy and why a lot of this has nothing to do with the last 4 seasons.
They won 2 Super Bowls in a 4 year period...but hey! They weren't "dominant"!
I've had more arguments about Eli Manning's achievements with Giants fans than I have outsiders. My Dad is a Jets fan and my father in law is a Cowboys fan and they would have bent over backwards to have Eli at QB for their team. To many other NYG fans he's JAG who "got lucky twice".
It was a question about negativity. Even during those years we won the Super Bowl, how fun was the year? In 2007, we had the Viking game and got housed by the Cowboys twice. Yes, the super bowl made up for it but its not like that whole year was fun.
But hey, I'll keep paying for my season tickets. You have fun arguing with your friends about Eli.
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The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
NYG since the boat picture: 18-49
NYG under Gettleman: 15-35
Team has been inept since October 2012.
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The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Winning a SB every year maybe, but it's possible to win a SB and then ya know still be good after too even without repeating. This stretch of futility has used up the goodwill from the 2011 Superbowl.
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people forced to eat shit sandwiches for 10 years really hate the taste of shit sandwiches.
I don't know. There are still people telling us to enjoy it.
No one is telling you to enjoy it. Some complain about your relentless negativity, they shouldn’t, really not their concern.
I don’t care how other fans approach being a fan., it continues to puzzle me why you, route 9, bw and a few others do.
And some would be here telling us the team is close to going on a run if we dropped 10 straight, all by more than 20 points.
The extreme ends on BBI are two sides of the same stupid coin.
Unfortunately you could substitute the Giants for the Jets in that sentence and it would still be applicable. Both of these teams being non-competitive year in and year out is something that almost doesn't need to be said.
Lecturing people about not lecturing is really where it’s at.
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that BBI activity is up during losing seasons. We’re all just bunch of whiners.
There is nothing surprising about this. In a winning season, the day after the game we can say Yay, I love it, so and so looked good, and also so and so, I think we can win next week. Not much of substance after that. In a losing season, everybody will chime in about what they think went wrong, in depth analysis of everyone's technique, breaking down the play calls, the coaching philosophy, the players' attitudes, strategy, who should be let go, next years draft, and on and on. Just more to talk about.
People like to complain and everyone thinks they have the answer. But no one can actually do anything about it except tell everyone else they are wrong and stupid and delusional. Of course the traffic spikes, too many egos.
Bad news is always good news - that has stood the test of time.
And then the ones that only want to hear only positive of their team resort to insults calling other posters miserable fucks and make up things like posters that have had common sense realizing the team would suck actually are rooting for their team to lose.
In other words with these posters that if you don't root for the team the way I want you to - you are a miserable fuck. And then I'm going to make up some fantasy like the one that disagrees with my optimism means they want their team to lose.
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people forced to eat shit sandwiches for 10 years really hate the taste of shit sandwiches.
I don't know. There are still people telling us to enjoy it.
No one is telling you to enjoy it. Some complain about your relentless negativity, they shouldn’t, really not their concern.
I don’t care how other fans approach being a fan., it continues to puzzle me why you, route 9, bw and a few others do.
But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
I could easily just find something better to do but watching Giants games and interacting with you classical people is what I like to do.
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You want fair weather fans. Look to teams that have been competitive or winning and then want to blow the whole thing up after a loss. I live outside of philly. If any team meets that criteria, it's the eagles. In the last 20 years, they've only had 5 losing season (2 of them being 7-9 and one with Mike fricking McMahon at qb for half the year). Yet there's never been a coach or qb they didn't want to run out of town besides saint buddy...
But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
Generally those insults are due to being pushed.
When a fan posts something on the forum about how they really like(d) something and a good conversation gets hijacked by a myriad of angry Karen’s still trying to figure out if they should leave their boyfriends…
…”miserable fuck” sits just about right.
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But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
Generally those insults are due to being pushed.
When a fan posts something on the forum about how they really like(d) something and a good conversation gets hijacked by a myriad of angry Karen’s still trying to figure out if they should leave their boyfriends…
…”miserable fuck” sits just about right.
That's a load of crap. It's common though. Posts that people like you/they make are generally the same type of excuses you/ they make about the team too. They all go hand in hand.
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The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
Crisis? Oh wow ok.... This is the NFL...things change fast. Our Defense gets back on track and we will start winning and if we don't we have two 1sts next year with probably a new GM. Negative people always say I am not negative I am a realist... Well Realistically we either improve this year or we have a lot of ammo next year to make us better. Most of our good talent is locked up for multiple years and we add to it. You guys get freaking crazy and act like your are some super fan because you are "calling it like you see it" and "this team sucks for so long we get to be mad!"
Bro it is the NFL, where the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs is usually a few plays in a few games. That is the whole truth of it. Offsides on a missed FG? one play that changed a 1-1 start. If you can't handle it maybe this isn't the sport for you.
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But it doesn't puzzle you that posters that are more optimists insult other posters for example by calling them "miserable fucks?"
Generally those insults are due to being pushed.
When a fan posts something on the forum about how they really like(d) something and a good conversation gets hijacked by a myriad of angry Karen’s still trying to figure out if they should leave their boyfriends…
…”miserable fuck” sits just about right.
That's a load of crap. It's common though. Posts that people like you/they make are generally the same type of excuses you/ they make about the team too. They all go hand in hand.
Excuses? This has got to be the most misunderstood word on BBI.
Couple of things:
- Nothing in my post suggests anything about excuses. Karen shows up when Giants fans are trying to enjoy things.
- "People like me" - What excuses did I make? Pick ANY post...you make it sound like I am doing something regularly that in fact, I don't do.
They're 15-35 since Gettleman was hired. When do those fast changes start to happen?
You want fair weather fans. Look to teams that have been competitive or winning and then want to blow the whole thing up after a loss. I live outside of philly. If any team meets that criteria, it's the eagles. In the last 20 years, they've only had 5 losing season (2 of them being 7-9 and one with Mike fricking McMahon at qb for half the year). Yet there's never been a coach or qb they didn't want to run out of town besides saint buddy...
Yeah, and a lot of that was Andy Reid who is proving again out in KC how good he is. It's a shame that when they ran him out of town there wasn't an opening here.
Yeah, and a lot of that was Andy Reid who is proving again out in KC how good he is. It's a shame that when they ran him out of town there wasn't an opening here.
Would have been particularly sweet to see him leading the Giants to beatings of the Eagles on the regular.
I could easily just find something better to do but watching Giants games and interacting with you classical people is what I like to do.
murderer!
hmm murderer and millenial
But Facebook... eh... Who cares?
YouTube would be a much better platform to gauge if you want to judge fan bases based on social media.
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In comment 15378865 Go Terps said:
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The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
Crisis? Oh wow ok.... This is the NFL...things change fast. Our Defense gets back on track and we will start winning and if we don't we have two 1sts next year with probably a new GM. Negative people always say I am not negative I am a realist... Well Realistically we either improve this year or we have a lot of ammo next year to make us better. Most of our good talent is locked up for multiple years and we add to it. You guys get freaking crazy and act like your are some super fan because you are "calling it like you see it" and "this team sucks for so long we get to be mad!"
Bro it is the NFL, where the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs is usually a few plays in a few games. That is the whole truth of it. Offsides on a missed FG? one play that changed a 1-1 start. If you can't handle it maybe this isn't the sport for you.
We've had ammo to get better for years, and this roster is still terrible.
It doesn't matter how many draft picks you have if the people making the picks are incompetent. We've had 6 first round picks since 2018, and we didn't do a good job with a single one of those picks (maybe Lawrence...but I'm not even sure about him).
Absolutely a state of crisis.
Luckily I'm not 13 anymore and live and die by the Giants, but I'm still stinging after really bad losses. For example, outside of this message board, I haven't consumed any Giants content since Thursday night.
So help me understand the difference...
If it is pointless to lecture someone that their team actually sucks, why is it not pointless to lecture someone that their team is awesome?
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In comment 15378865 Go Terps said:
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The Giants didn't trade these ten years to win the Super Bowl in 2011.
It's possible to follow up a successful year with complete ineptitude. We know this because the Giants are doing it. It's ok to observe and call out ineptitude. Living in fantasy land doesn't make one a better fan.
Sure... winning every year would be amazing!! of course that sounds more like Fantasy land than what I said.
Look at Sean's post above yours.
I feel like Hooper in Jaws: "Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign. Those proportions are correct."
You can't deny reality, and the reality is that this is an organization in crisis that is desperately in need of a complete operational overhaul.
Crisis? Oh wow ok.... This is the NFL...things change fast. Our Defense gets back on track and we will start winning and if we don't we have two 1sts next year with probably a new GM. Negative people always say I am not negative I am a realist... Well Realistically we either improve this year or we have a lot of ammo next year to make us better. Most of our good talent is locked up for multiple years and we add to it. You guys get freaking crazy and act like your are some super fan because you are "calling it like you see it" and "this team sucks for so long we get to be mad!"
Bro it is the NFL, where the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs is usually a few plays in a few games. That is the whole truth of it. Offsides on a missed FG? one play that changed a 1-1 start. If you can't handle it maybe this isn't the sport for you.
We've had ammo to get better for years, and this roster is still terrible.
It doesn't matter how many draft picks you have if the people making the picks are incompetent. We've had 6 first round picks since 2018, and we didn't do a good job with a single one of those picks (maybe Lawrence...but I'm not even sure about him).
Absolutely a state of crisis.
And if we don't get called offsides on the last play of the game... would it still be an "Absolute STATE OF CRISIS!!!" AHHHHHH HELP ME... hahaha
Last year we were a few plays in a few games from being in the playoffs... Actually in most years the last 10 years we were a few plays in a few games from being on the playoffs. This year we were literally one stupid play from being 1-1 and leading our division. Again... I don't think the NFL is for you bro. To stressful.
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that BBI activity is up during losing seasons. We’re all just bunch of whiners.
There is nothing surprising about this. In a winning season, the day after the game we can say Yay, I love it, so and so looked good, and also so and so, I think we can win next week. Not much of substance after that. In a losing season, everybody will chime in about what they think went wrong, in depth analysis of everyone's technique, breaking down the play calls, the coaching philosophy, the players' attitudes, strategy, who should be let go, next years draft, and on and on. Just more to talk about.
Spot fucking on.
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Who cares what gidie says?
I could easily just find something better to do but watching Giants games and interacting with you classical people is what I like to do.
murderer!
hmm murderer and millenial
Yep worst part about it was having Boomers as our guardians. Gross.
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Who cares what gidie says?
I could easily just find something better to do but watching Giants games and interacting with you classical people is what I like to do.
murderer!
hmm murderer and millenial
Yep worst part about it was having Boomers as our guardians. Gross.
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Excuses? This has got to be the most misunderstood word on BBI.
Couple of things:
- Nothing in my post suggests anything about excuses. Karen shows up when Giants fans are trying to enjoy things.
- "People like me" - What excuses did I make? Pick ANY post...you make it sound like I am doing something regularly that in fact, I don't do.
Point 1- I specifically used the word “generally.” “Generally” does not mean “all.”
Point 2- Posts in which people post something positive and then get upset at the poster who sends something negative and wind up calling that poster a miserable fuck means they don’t agree with the poster, “generally,” correct? Insults are “generally” thrown out for a reason. It is generally a disagreement in some form.
Point 3—If the positive poster doesn’t agree with the negative poster and before the personal insults the positive poster unleashes, that positive poster “generally” provides excuses why the negative poster is wrong or the positive poster defends his excuses why he is being positive.
Point 4—I did put a slash as an indication you may or may not be with strong belief that you are an excuse maker. If you’re calling posters “miserable fucks” for specifically classifying positive posts as “good conversation.” So when people are being positive it is “good conversation.” And when they are negative it is “They are miserable fucks.” Ofc the positive posters who by the way have been wrong the past several years look to push positives on a team filled with 7 of 8 year awful football- then yeah you and others are excuse makers.
Point 5—I tied your post into joeinpa’s post because just as you seem to speak of “good conversation” inferring good conversation is “positive posts.” Joeinpa inferring that the negative posters shouldn’t be so concerned with how other posters feel about them which apparently he is implying the negative posters do. Yet he doesn’t ever seem to call out by name like he did with route9 and bw for the nutjobs that think it’s okay to call the negative posters “miserable fucks.” How often do you think joe calls out a positive poster by name?
He looks and implies one way – which apparently you do too. Just because you want to pretend that you are above-it-all; your posts speaking of “good conversation” (whose to say what “good conversation” is?”) and “miserable fucks” show quite the opposite.