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Des51 : 9/21/2021 12:28 pm
Fans who become most negative after losing. Here is the article.
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Route 9 : 9/23/2021 4:17 am : link
In comment 15379876 Brown_Hornet said:
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Its possible that we agree on more than we know.


My apologies but do we disagree often? I don't remember much.
Giantstock  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2021 7:29 am : link
not all pessimism and negativity is met with “miserable fucks”. Just those posters that deserve it. I don’t need anyone to agree with me on sports and I also don’t spend every waking minute trying to convince others that my opinion is correct. Those that do are generally pretty negative about any and everything (not just giants football I might add) - those are the miserable fucks and there’s a gaggle of them on this board. They typically can’t hold a football conversation very well because they are far too concerned with letting everyone know their prediction of the giants sucking came true, it’s the only reason the show up on a thread. I wish I had a cookie to virtually send those guys (or gals) it might cheer them up a bit. Or maybe not, because cookies might actually suck too.
Gstock…  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 8:07 am : link
…that was kind of wordsalady.

Excuses are a funny thing. Negative people use the as much as positive people.
If the OL struggles are an excuse for DJs poor play than 15-35 is an excuse for a lack of decorum and a good attitude.

Maybe “good conversation” is indeed poor wording. Let’s go with “conversation about the good.”

That way, when you see it and you (generally speaking) feel the need to tell these happy fucks that they should be miserable fucks….you’ll know (again…generally speaking) to step off?!

😎
RE: UCONN4523  
giantstock : 9/23/2021 9:33 am : link
In comment 15380012 UConn4523 said:
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not all pessimism and negativity is met with “miserable fucks”. Just those posters that deserve it. I don’t need anyone to agree with me on sports and I also don’t spend every waking minute trying to convince others that my opinion is correct. Those that do are generally pretty negative about any and everything (not just giants football I might add) - those are the miserable fucks and there’s a gaggle of them on this board. They typically can’t hold a football conversation very well because they are far too concerned with letting everyone know their prediction of the giants sucking came true, it’s the only reason the show up on a thread. I wish I had a cookie to virtually send those guys (or gals) it might cheer them up a bit. Or maybe not, because cookies might actually suck too.


I'm not talking about everyone.

Secondly, I'm not sure who you are referring to about "every waking minute trying to convince . . ." It seems like what you're saying to some degree is "Those that look at positive are not trying to convince anyone, yet those that are negative are trying to convince everyone with ever waking minute."

Third- "who holds a conversation well" is subjective, isn't it? Generally, isn't there a tendency to believe those that "hold a conversation well" are those that agree our opinion?

Fourth- while you say you wish you had a cookie to send, but I feel the way some talk on here - jokingly - I wonder if they wear a cheerleading skirt while watching each game.
RE: Gstock…  
giantstock : 9/23/2021 9:45 am : link
In comment 15380020 Brown_Hornet said:
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…that was kind of wordsalady.

Excuses are a funny thing. Negative people use the as much as positive people.
If the OL struggles are an excuse for DJs poor play than 15-35 is an excuse for a lack of decorum and a good attitude.

Maybe “good conversation” is indeed poor wording. Let’s go with “conversation about the good.”

That way, when you see it and you (generally speaking) feel the need to tell these happy fucks that they should be miserable fucks….you’ll know (again…generally speaking) to step off?!

😎


Then when someone posts about "the good" can't there be conversation that maybe it's not good or post some counter that there is "bad?" What's wrong with hearing oppising views?

The way YOU should SEE IT- is to recognize that there is going to be counter opinions a lot for positive posters when the team sucks. And that doesn't mean the negative posters look upon the positive posters as "miserable fucks."

There comes an invention/ illusion from some positive posters that because they are negative then they are illogical. So just because there is a disagreement some people make comments like "You would rather be right on here and watch the team lose." This is so nutty. What kind of a nut would think that? A person is a fan all their life (assuming ofc the poster is a Giants fan), and he has his name here anonymously, he is is going to spend over 3 hours with his free time hoping they will lose so he can post anonymous about it?
Giantstock  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2021 9:55 am : link
being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.
RE: RE: Gstock…  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15380081 giantstock said:
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Then when someone posts about "the good" can't there be conversation that maybe it's not good or post some counter that there is "bad?" What's wrong with hearing oppising views?

The way YOU should SEE IT- is to recognize that there is going to be counter opinions a lot for positive posters when the team sucks. And that doesn't mean the negative posters look upon the positive posters as "miserable fucks."

There comes an invention/ illusion from some positive posters that because they are negative then they are illogical. So just because there is a disagreement some people make comments like "You would rather be right on here and watch the team lose." This is so nutty. What kind of a nut would think that? A person is a fan all their life (assuming ofc the poster is a Giants fan), and he has his name here anonymously, he is is going to spend over 3 hours with his free time hoping they will lose so he can post anonymous about it?

We disagree.

There are some threads that a regurgitation of well known takes on a topic are not necessary. In fact, they have become combative and confrontational...
I am avoiding the "Crisis" thread for that reason. My opinion is not necessary.

If someone starts a thread about how DJ is playing really well and they're excited about the next game, there is no need for someone that has made their dislike for DJ well known over the past 12 month, to chime in with a comment on how he still sucks and that he's at best, he's a back up QB.

Maybe we need one thread each week for random Happy Fucks. Just one thread for those who want to discuss what they like about the teams performance.

RE: RE: RE: Gstock…  
chick310 : 9/23/2021 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15380246 Brown_Hornet said:
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Maybe we need one thread each week for random Happy Fucks. Just one thread for those who want to discuss what they like about the teams performance.


We already have those. They are typically labeled "NGT", and a good place for you to enjoy your random happiness.
RE: RE: RE: Gstock…  
Scooter185 : 9/23/2021 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15380246 Brown_Hornet said:
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In comment 15380081 giantstock said:


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Then when someone posts about "the good" can't there be conversation that maybe it's not good or post some counter that there is "bad?" What's wrong with hearing oppising views?

The way YOU should SEE IT- is to recognize that there is going to be counter opinions a lot for positive posters when the team sucks. And that doesn't mean the negative posters look upon the positive posters as "miserable fucks."

There comes an invention/ illusion from some positive posters that because they are negative then they are illogical. So just because there is a disagreement some people make comments like "You would rather be right on here and watch the team lose." This is so nutty. What kind of a nut would think that? A person is a fan all their life (assuming ofc the poster is a Giants fan), and he has his name here anonymously, he is is going to spend over 3 hours with his free time hoping they will lose so he can post anonymous about it?


We disagree.

There are some threads that a regurgitation of well known takes on a topic are not necessary. In fact, they have become combative and confrontational...
I am avoiding the "Crisis" thread for that reason. My opinion is not necessary.

If someone starts a thread about how DJ is playing really well and they're excited about the next game, there is no need for someone that has made their dislike for DJ well known over the past 12 month, to chime in with a comment on how he still sucks and that he's at best, he's a back up QB.

Maybe we need one thread each week for random Happy Fucks. Just one thread for those who want to discuss what they like about the teams performance.


What some of the happy F's don't seem to realize is that you're NOT required to make a reply to that person who's made their dislike about Jones known so well. And yet, they do and the whole thread train wrecks.

The posting about posters is far worse than the negative posts about Jones
To me  
crick n NC : 9/23/2021 1:39 pm : link
It really comes down to not giving fans a hard time about them criticizing the team and not giving fans a hard time about wanting to express their hope or positive perspective. There are certainly those that do not approach topics with reason on both sides, but probably best to ignore those while selecting to communicate with those that can share ideas.
No...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 2:04 pm : link
...no to you both.

If it's ok to shit on the team, it's ok to shit on the fans.





RE: To me  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2021 2:16 pm : link
In comment 15380407 crick n NC said:
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It really comes down to not giving fans a hard time about them criticizing the team and not giving fans a hard time about wanting to express their hope or positive perspective. There are certainly those that do not approach topics with reason on both sides, but probably best to ignore those while selecting to communicate with those that can share ideas.


Build you BBI filter, can't recommend it enough. BBI is much more enjoyable with it turned on.
RE: No...  
Scooter185 : 9/23/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15380431 Brown_Hornet said:
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...no to you both.

If it's ok to shit on the team, it's ok to shit on the fans.






Then the Happy Fs ar just as responsible for derailing threads and have no room to complain about it
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chick310 : 9/23/2021 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15380480 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15380431 Brown_Hornet said:


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...no to you both.

If it's ok to shit on the team, it's ok to shit on the fans.








Then the Happy Fs ar just as responsible for derailing threads and have no room to complain about it


Maybe derailing threads is really the most misunderstood phrase on BBI.
RE: RE: No...  
crick n NC : 9/23/2021 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15380480 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15380431 Brown_Hornet said:


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...no to you both.

If it's ok to shit on the team, it's ok to shit on the fans.








Then the Happy Fs ar just as responsible for derailing threads and have no room to complain about it


Certain, both sides are responsible enough that neither side can claim higher ground. If fans want to have a thread to complain about the Giants, fine. If other fans want to talk about what they see as positives about the team, fine.
RE: RE: To me  
crick n NC : 9/23/2021 7:05 pm : link
In comment 15380440 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15380407 crick n NC said:


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It really comes down to not giving fans a hard time about them criticizing the team and not giving fans a hard time about wanting to express their hope or positive perspective. There are certainly those that do not approach topics with reason on both sides, but probably best to ignore those while selecting to communicate with those that can share ideas.



Build you BBI filter, can't recommend it enough. BBI is much more enjoyable with it turned on.


Unconn, I do for the most part. I see names that I know it is best to skip over; I don't mean posters that i disagree with, but those that do not show much interest in listening to contrary POV's. I have rarely got into squabbles over here, and try to keep the peace.
RE: Giantstock  
Producer : 9/23/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15380089 UConn4523 said:
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being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.


Maybe these folks who have a different opinion than you have something to offer and you aren't considering an alternative pov. I'm not sure but it may be a possibility.
RE: RE: Giantstock  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15380671 Producer said:
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being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.



Maybe these folks who have a different opinion than you have something to offer and you aren't considering an alternative pov. I'm not sure but it may be a possibility.

People who are positive and enjoy the team even though the team is not doing what they would like them to do or not missing something.
I get excited Sunday morning no matter what I have a good understanding of what the team is capable of and where the team will likely be at the end of the day.
That is a prognosticator but I’m well aware that the team has deficiencies as our I think most of the people who remain positive.

I’m not gonna learn anything from somebody telling me for the 425th time the Daniel Jones should be a back up.
I’m not going to learn anything from someone telling me that you don’t take a running back at number two.
I’m not going to learn anything from somebody telling me for the 321st time that the general manager doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing.

Discussion about the pros and cons of a play a player or anything else related to Football should not only be OK but should be expected.

There are not two sides to this… there are miserable people who want to bring you down and there is everybody else.

RE: RE: RE: Giantstock  
Producer : 9/23/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15380695 Brown_Hornet said:
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In comment 15380089 UConn4523 said:


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being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.



Maybe these folks who have a different opinion than you have something to offer and you aren't considering an alternative pov. I'm not sure but it may be a possibility.


People who are positive and enjoy the team even though the team is not doing what they would like them to do or not missing something.
I get excited Sunday morning no matter what I have a good understanding of what the team is capable of and where the team will likely be at the end of the day.
That is a prognosticator but I’m well aware that the team has deficiencies as our I think most of the people who remain positive.

I’m not gonna learn anything from somebody telling me for the 425th time the Daniel Jones should be a back up.
I’m not going to learn anything from someone telling me that you don’t take a running back at number two.
I’m not going to learn anything from somebody telling me for the 321st time that the general manager doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing.

Discussion about the pros and cons of a play a player or anything else related to Football should not only be OK but should be expected.

There are not two sides to this… there are miserable people who want to bring you down and there is everybody else.


well you probably see this on every sports message board dedicated to a single franchise. At the risk of being reductive you have some people who accept management's decisions, sometimes critically sometimes uncritically, and go with the flow of the franchise. Maybe this type of fan identifies with the franchise beyond just a team. It's like family. They are satisfied to stick with the team through thick and thin.

And maybe there is another kind of fan that feels an urgency to identify troubles and discuss them in the hopes of figuring out what the team can do. Maybe they are more analytical.

Surely, these two types of fans could co-exist and maybe should co-exist and interact in the hopes of learning from each other.
The Giants actually bring you down but you don't like to read  
chick310 : 9/23/2021 8:48 pm : link
about that here so you do the same thing they do, bitch.

I agree, you're clearly not going to learn anything.



RE: RE: RE: RE: Giantstock  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15380700 Producer said:
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being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.



Maybe these folks who have a different opinion than you have something to offer and you aren't considering an alternative pov. I'm not sure but it may be a possibility.


People who are positive and enjoy the team even though the team is not doing what they would like them to do or not missing something.
I get excited Sunday morning no matter what I have a good understanding of what the team is capable of and where the team will likely be at the end of the day.
That is a prognosticator but I’m well aware that the team has deficiencies as our I think most of the people who remain positive.

I’m not gonna learn anything from somebody telling me for the 425th time the Daniel Jones should be a back up.
I’m not going to learn anything from someone telling me that you don’t take a running back at number two.
I’m not going to learn anything from somebody telling me for the 321st time that the general manager doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing.

Discussion about the pros and cons of a play a player or anything else related to Football should not only be OK but should be expected.

There are not two sides to this… there are miserable people who want to bring you down and there is everybody else.




well you probably see this on every sports message board dedicated to a single franchise. At the risk of being reductive you have some people who accept management's decisions, sometimes critically sometimes uncritically, and go with the flow of the franchise. Maybe this type of fan identifies with the franchise beyond just a team. It's like family. They are satisfied to stick with the team through thick and thin.

And maybe there is another kind of fan that feels an urgency to identify troubles and discuss them in the hopes of figuring out what the team can do. Maybe they are more analytical.

Surely, these two types of fans could co-exist and maybe should co-exist and interact in the hopes of learning from each other.
We agree.
I believe there’s a place on the form for being critical, I believe there’s a place on the board for being angry, I believe there’s a place on this board for losing your fucking mines that this shit has been going on this fucking long.

I also believe that there’s a place on this board for fans to have conversations about what they really like what they’re enjoying where they think the franchise is going without having the conversation interrupted by unhappy people.

I’m not telling anybody to stop being critical stop being harsh stop being pissed off…
… i’m asking them to choose their spots.
I think the board would be happy to offer them 90% of the threads but can 10% be reserved for something different?


RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Giantstock  
Producer : 9/23/2021 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15380745 Brown_Hornet said:
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being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.



Maybe these folks who have a different opinion than you have something to offer and you aren't considering an alternative pov. I'm not sure but it may be a possibility.


People who are positive and enjoy the team even though the team is not doing what they would like them to do or not missing something.
I get excited Sunday morning no matter what I have a good understanding of what the team is capable of and where the team will likely be at the end of the day.
That is a prognosticator but I’m well aware that the team has deficiencies as our I think most of the people who remain positive.

I’m not gonna learn anything from somebody telling me for the 425th time the Daniel Jones should be a back up.
I’m not going to learn anything from someone telling me that you don’t take a running back at number two.
I’m not going to learn anything from somebody telling me for the 321st time that the general manager doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing.

Discussion about the pros and cons of a play a player or anything else related to Football should not only be OK but should be expected.

There are not two sides to this… there are miserable people who want to bring you down and there is everybody else.




well you probably see this on every sports message board dedicated to a single franchise. At the risk of being reductive you have some people who accept management's decisions, sometimes critically sometimes uncritically, and go with the flow of the franchise. Maybe this type of fan identifies with the franchise beyond just a team. It's like family. They are satisfied to stick with the team through thick and thin.

And maybe there is another kind of fan that feels an urgency to identify troubles and discuss them in the hopes of figuring out what the team can do. Maybe they are more analytical.

Surely, these two types of fans could co-exist and maybe should co-exist and interact in the hopes of learning from each other.

We agree.
I believe there’s a place on the form for being critical, I believe there’s a place on the board for being angry, I believe there’s a place on this board for losing your fucking mines that this shit has been going on this fucking long.

I also believe that there’s a place on this board for fans to have conversations about what they really like what they’re enjoying where they think the franchise is going without having the conversation interrupted by unhappy people.

I’m not telling anybody to stop being critical stop being harsh stop being pissed off…
… i’m asking them to choose their spots.
I think the board would be happy to offer them 90% of the threads but can 10% be reserved for something different?



I'm sure. But it's a fairly open community and people are going to do what they feel. Sometimes folks can't filter themselves. This goes for the people who slag the team and for people who slag the slaggers. So there is no system to limit the negativity. We are all adults with free will. We can choose to ignore posts that we don't agree with or we feel cross a line.
I don’t disagree…  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 9:24 pm : link
… but it was easier to ignore political posts than it is to a ignore the angry about the home team.

A precedent has been set for controlling what is talked about.

It won’t change…
RE: RE: Giantstock  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2021 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15380671 Producer said:
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being overwhelmingly positive really shouldn’t bother anyone. Giants, parenting, exercise, diet, etc. yes those people can be preachy but it really shouldn’t bother you. I can’t say the same for pessimism - I cut those people out of my life because they are a drag and their goal is to make you miserable too. Life is too short to complain all the time but maybe that’s just me.

I get along well with many here that I typically don’t agree with (BW, Christian, and a few others). But there are others who’s only goal is to stir the pot, not offer any actual insight, and really just like being assholes. Those people are the miserable fucks.



Maybe these folks who have a different opinion than you have something to offer and you aren't considering an alternative pov. I'm not sure but it may be a possibility.


Some, sure. But those I now ignore have absolutely nothing interesting to say. Their POV isn’t productive and it isn’t worth my time.
UConn4523  
Producer : 9/23/2021 10:38 pm : link
of course. you should ignore anything here that bugs you. This is supposed to be fun.
Strange though because in some instances these same folks  
chick310 : 9/23/2021 11:03 pm : link
really don’t ignore it. They look for it and then break out the popcorn, in a matter of speaking.
sometimes I think people feel entitled to  
Producer : 9/23/2021 11:21 pm : link
the kind of space they want this to be.
Don’t confuse the word “entitled…”  
Brown_Hornet : 9/23/2021 11:41 pm : link
… with the phrase “willing to fight for.”
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