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Del Shofner : 9/23/2021 8:20 pm
on NFLHD here. Have no rooting interest but I'll watch a little of it.
Not sure this should  
bubba0825 : 9/23/2021 8:23 pm : link
Be a nationally televised game
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2021 8:25 pm : link
Game of the year!
.  
Banks : 9/23/2021 8:25 pm : link
not sure how they don't call that pi
Darnold v. some rookie as the QBs  
Del Shofner : 9/23/2021 8:26 pm : link
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RE: Not sure this should  
81_Great_Dane : 9/23/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15380703 bubba0825 said:
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Be a nationally televised game
Or, from the league's point of view, "Let's make this a nationally televised game, since we'll pump the ratings for this stinker."
What channel...  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 8:27 pm : link
are the Mannings on? :)
If we get a new GM  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 8:32 pm : link
and he wants a new head coach, I wouldn't mind Joe Brady. I know his offensive scheme is different from Garrett and many scheme "continuity" but I like his offense more than what Garett does.
Carolina  
GF1080 : 9/23/2021 8:33 pm : link
Very interesting team so excited to watch them. See if Darnold is better without Gase, best RB in football, a young innovative OC, and a up and coming D with lots of speed.
Sam Darnold to Dan Arnold!  
Milton : 9/23/2021 8:35 pm : link
I bet the announcers are practicing that one ahead of time.
Darnold looks good  
Sean : 9/23/2021 8:37 pm : link
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I wish Jones would scramble  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 8:37 pm : link
and what I mean is moving side to side trying to avoid defenders, instead of just staying in the pocket waiting f9or the play to develop. All Jones will do is run in a strait line if there is a hole, but barely. Thats a good way to extend plays when the OL crumbles.
Darnold  
Del Shofner : 9/23/2021 8:38 pm : link
looked good on that drive
Darnold  
lax counsel : 9/23/2021 8:39 pm : link
Moves around extremely well in the pocket. Looks more like the guy from USC than what he was with the jets. Interesting to see if develops into what he was projected to be.
Rhule also looks good..  
Sean : 9/23/2021 8:42 pm : link
Nice that the Giants were reactive and let Tepper dictate the entire negotiation. Always reactive, never proactive.
Serious question  
joeinpa : 9/23/2021 8:44 pm : link
How does an NFL coach come to the conclusion that the defensive strategy employed by Houston on that touchdown drive is a good idea?
Seeing Wilson  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 8:49 pm : link
on the Jets, I'm convinced it's a Jets issue. Darnold looks world better like he is a #3 prospect from USC.
RE: Rhule also looks good..  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15380721 Sean said:
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Nice that the Giants were reactive and let Tepper dictate the entire negotiation. Always reactive, never proactive.

Give me a break. There is plenty to kill the Giants for. Killing them for not exceeding the ludicrous offer Tepper gave Rhule is not on the list.

And please, can we slow our roll here a bit? Rhule and his Panthers actually picked ahead of the Giants in this past draft. The instant reactionary bullshit that happens on this site is comical.
Darnold looks good.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2021 8:51 pm : link
Hoping he succeeds.
Anybody else  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 8:52 pm : link
fade DJ Moore on the single slate tonight?
needless to say, not a great start
Darnold  
AcidTest : 9/23/2021 8:52 pm : link
looks good. His passes have been accurate, he's clearly going through his progressions and reads, and has scrambled without panicking to buy time. Aikman is right that he's also made some nice throws on the run.
RE: RE: Rhule also looks good..  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15380727 BigBlueShock said:
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And please, can we slow our roll here a bit? Rhule and his Panthers actually picked ahead of the Giants in this past draft. The instant reactionary bullshit that happens on this site is comical.


Then why do they look like a much better team than the Giants? This is how the Giants were supposed to look this year, a top team competing for the division with a good defense.
RE: RE: RE: Rhule also looks good..  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:00 pm : link
In comment 15380731 shadow_spinner0 said:
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In comment 15380727 BigBlueShock said:


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And please, can we slow our roll here a bit? Rhule and his Panthers actually picked ahead of the Giants in this past draft. The instant reactionary bullshit that happens on this site is comical.



Then why do they look like a much better team than the Giants? This is how the Giants were supposed to look this year, a top team competing for the division with a good defense.

They started 3-2 last year and we had posters in here saying the same thing. How could we pass up Matt Rhule? Then they won two games the rest of the season.

It didn’t take long for the same nonsense to pick up again this season, did it?
Carolina isn’t going to be easy in a few weeks.  
The_Boss : 9/23/2021 9:02 pm : link
I think they’re appreciably better than the NYG. Rhule’s offensive staff has completely transformed Darnold into a competent NFL QB.
RE: Rhule also looks good..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2021 9:04 pm : link
In comment 15380721 Sean said:
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Nice that the Giants were reactive and let Tepper dictate the entire negotiation. Always reactive, never proactive.


The joke is on you if you really believe the Giants would ever lay out that kind of money for a rookie head coach.

He would never have gotten here.
New age NFL  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:04 pm : link
more teams going on 4th and short. Giants barely do that tho. Very conservative team
Feels like I m  
joeinpa : 9/23/2021 9:05 pm : link
Watching Giants defense here, except they give up the 4 th down conversion.

Teams are going to have to rethink the incredibly soft defenses they play on third and long. Seems more and more coaches are willing to go for it when you let them close enough on 4 th down.
The whining about Matt Rhule has started again?  
Chris684 : 9/23/2021 9:05 pm : link
Shocker.

Has there been an easier start to a season in the history of the NFL playing the Jets, Texans and Saints with a bunch of guys with Covid?
CMC is out  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:08 pm : link
and this is why you don't give RB's a big contract in todays NFL. Guys like Gurley, CMC, zeke who seems to be declining and Barkley seem to have a short life span.
RE: Feels like I m  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2021 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15380737 joeinpa said:
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Watching Giants defense here, except they give up the 4 th down conversion.

Teams are going to have to rethink the incredibly soft defenses they play on third and long. Seems more and more coaches are willing to go for it when you let them close enough on 4 th down.


With a QB that's a threat to run, it's especially brutal the Giants are so predictable about punting.
RE: Carolina isn’t going to be easy in a few weeks.  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 9:09 pm : link
In part saved from Gase and the Jets' org. Won't be the first ex-Gase guy to breakout.
Devante Parker
Ryan Tannehill
Jarvis Landry
Kenyan Drake



In comment 15380734 The_Boss said:
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I think they’re appreciably better than the NYG. Rhule’s offensive staff has completely transformed Darnold into a competent NFL QB.
RE: RE: Carolina isn’t going to be easy in a few weeks.  
jnoble : 9/23/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15380744 littlejoe46 said:
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In part saved from Gase and the Jets' org. Won't be the first ex-Gase guy to breakout.
Devante Parker
Ryan Tannehill
Jarvis Landry
Kenyan Drake



In comment 15380734 The_Boss said:


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I think they’re appreciably better than the NYG. Rhule’s offensive staff has completely transformed Darnold into a competent NFL QB.



We won't have to worry about McCaffrey gashing us at least anymore
RE: CMC is out  
trueblueinpw : 9/23/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15380742 shadow_spinner0 said:
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and this is why you don't give RB's a big contract in todays NFL. Guys like Gurley, CMC, zeke who seems to be declining and Barkley seem to have a short life span.


It’s almost as if players at the RB position in the NFL have a shorter career than other positions. Too bad there isn’t some sort of statistics or comput’ah folks to run the numb’ahs on this stuff.
Has the Hopkins trade ever been explained?  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:15 pm : link
Why BOB traded him for meh picks and a washed David Johnson? We got more for OBJ. A first round pick and a young promising safety.
RE: The whining about Matt Rhule has started again?  
Greg from LI : 9/23/2021 9:19 pm : link
In comment 15380738 Chris684 said:
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Shocker.

Has there been an easier start to a season in the history of the NFL playing the Jets, Texans and Saints with a bunch of guys with Covid?


Yeah, the Broncos, Redskins, and Falcons are a real murderer's row
Carolina sure commits a shitload of penalties  
bceagle05 : 9/23/2021 9:21 pm : link
for such an expertly coached outfit.
….  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:21 pm : link
Yeah, anyone who thinks the mighty 2-0 Panthers are on a great track should be watching this game
RE: The whining about Matt Rhule has started again?  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15380738 Chris684 said:
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Shocker.

Has there been an easier start to a season in the history of the NFL playing the Jets, Texans and Saints with a bunch of guys with Covid?

Well apparently BBI is impressed with putting up 7 points in the half against the Houston Texans. They are simply unstoppable
If Jones fumbled like that  
Carl in CT : 9/23/2021 9:23 pm : link
Holy shit you would have thought he committed murder. Oh wait someone on the offense recovered. (We never do that). You see how easy a pitch a catch when you have a receiver like Moore who can get open?
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:24 pm : link
This game is awful
RE: Has the Hopkins trade ever been explained?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2021 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15380749 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Why BOB traded him for meh picks and a washed David Johnson? We got more for OBJ. A first round pick and a young promising safety.


I think the explanation lies in the fact that Bill O'Brian was sent packing back to college to be an assistant.
RE: RE: The whining about Matt Rhule has started again?  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15380752 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 15380738 Chris684 said:


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Shocker.

Has there been an easier start to a season in the history of the NFL playing the Jets, Texans and Saints with a bunch of guys with Covid?



Yeah, the Broncos, Redskins, and Falcons are a real murderer's row

The Broncos and Washington are a hell of a lot better than the jets and Texans. Come on now. You can despise the Giants and still not be ignorant. Or can’t you?
RE: ….  
ajr2456 : 9/23/2021 9:29 pm : link
In comment 15380754 ryanmkeane said:
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Yeah, anyone who thinks the mighty 2-0 Panthers are on a great track should be watching this game


I’d take the Panthers trajectory over ours. They have good young players on cheap contracts on both sides of the ball. Darnold has looked solid. A forward thinking offensive coordinator.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:29 pm : link
The fact that Watson isn’t playing is such a crock. This Mills guy is legit terrible.
RE: …  
ajr2456 : 9/23/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15380768 ryanmkeane said:
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The fact that Watson isn’t playing is such a crock. This Mills guy is legit terrible.


How is not playing the guy with dozens of sexual assault allegations “a crock”?
RE: The whining about Matt Rhule has started again?  
John In CO : 9/23/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15380738 Chris684 said:
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Shocker.

Has there been an easier start to a season in the history of the NFL playing the Jets, Texans and Saints with a bunch of guys with Covid?


Denver's first 3 games:

Giants
Jaguars
Jets
Both these teams look like crap  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2021 9:32 pm : link
I don't see how anyone can say they are better than us definitively. We played a 2-0 Broncos team, and basically beat the Redskins.
ajr  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:33 pm : link
what’s Watson’s status? Is he eligible to play or not? They are just letting him sit. They are paying his salary aren’t they? Why aren’t they trading him or cutting him?
RE: ajr  
ajr2456 : 9/23/2021 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15380772 ryanmkeane said:
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what’s Watson’s status? Is he eligible to play or not? They are just letting him sit. They are paying his salary aren’t they? Why aren’t they trading him or cutting him?


Just because the NFL won’t make a move doesn’t mean the Texans have to play him. They’ve tried to trade him, their price is too high. Are you really killing the Texans for not playing him? Clearly they think the allegations aren’t worth playing him right now.
Patrick Graham defense  
GNewGiants : 9/23/2021 9:35 pm : link
To start this drive. Soft zone against inexperience QB lol.
RE: Patrick Graham defense  
GNewGiants : 9/23/2021 9:36 pm : link
In comment 15380775 GNewGiants said:
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To start this drive. Soft zone against inexperience QB lol.


And dont guard their best WR. Like a redo from last Thursday.
Mills  
Everyone Relax : 9/23/2021 9:37 pm : link
throws a nice ball
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:37 pm : link
Yeah, I’m killing the Texans. They are keeping a player on their roster that they have no intention to play, and also won’t accept any trade offers for him that aren’t highway robbery. All the meanwhile, paying his salary. Again - everything Watson did was for sure terrible but - shit or get off the pot here.
RE: …  
ajr2456 : 9/23/2021 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15380778 ryanmkeane said:
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Yeah, I’m killing the Texans. They are keeping a player on their roster that they have no intention to play, and also won’t accept any trade offers for him that aren’t highway robbery. All the meanwhile, paying his salary. Again - everything Watson did was for sure terrible but - shit or get off the pot here.


Or they can ask for a high price, hope he gets cleared then trade him at that high price. Why sell low until you actually have to?
Davis Mills from Stanford  
Rick in Dallas : 9/23/2021 9:39 pm : link
Can throw the ball now. Houston needs to take the wraps off this kid.
His Pro Day this past spring in the rain was impressive.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:41 pm : link
What I’m saying is, he might not get cleared. Every second that he stays on the Texans roster, his trade value is diminished.
Imagine if Jones had two fumbles in a half like that  
BestFeature : 9/23/2021 9:41 pm : link
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Would Watson even want to play?  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:41 pm : link
For the Texans I mean. FFS Mills aint it
My god  
Everyone Relax : 9/23/2021 9:41 pm : link
darnold is asking to get stripped
Darnold has  
PEEJ : 9/23/2021 9:42 pm : link
no internal clock
Darnold reverting back to being Darnold  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2021 9:42 pm : link
.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:42 pm : link
Watched most of the Jets-Panthers game week 1. Darnold played better in week 2, but he still looks like largely the same QB he was on the Jets. Capable of big plays but still extremely jittery.
um...  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 9:42 pm : link
Sammy Dimes?
Even if BOB would have gotten a first rounder  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:43 pm : link
for Hopkins, they still would have been 1 pick in back of NE to draft Mac Jones. So they were stuck either way.
RE: …  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15380778 ryanmkeane said:
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Yeah, I’m killing the Texans. They are keeping a player on their roster that they have no intention to play, and also won’t accept any trade offers for him that aren’t highway robbery. All the meanwhile, paying his salary. Again - everything Watson did was for sure terrible but - shit or get off the pot here.

It’s been speculated that the NFL hasn’t suspended Watson yet because the Texans aren’t playing him. If they try to play him, he will be suspended by the league. I’m not sure of the legitimacy of this but I’ve seen it mentioned several times. So I’m not sure what you think the Texans can do? He is not tradeable at this point.
..  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:44 pm : link
The time to trade Watson was this off-season. And it is not surprising that they didn’t do it. The guy that runs the show there is an absolute baffoon.
RE: Imagine if Jones had two fumbles in a half like that  
jnoble : 9/23/2021 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15380782 BestFeature said:
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Please don't jinx us :-)
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:46 pm : link
Easterby is the moron who probably didn’t want to trade him in the off-season. Caserio can’t be that stupid.
RE: …  
ajr2456 : 9/23/2021 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15380781 ryanmkeane said:
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What I’m saying is, he might not get cleared. Every second that he stays on the Texans roster, his trade value is diminished.


But other teams know this too. Nobody’s trading anything more than like a 4th round pick for him right now. The gamble to wait and hope he gets cleared is worth it.
Darnold over Barkley  
Carl in CT : 9/23/2021 9:46 pm : link
A huge hell no! Nelson, Chubb or Allen? That’s a convo to be determined.
RE: ..  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15380792 ryanmkeane said:
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The time to trade Watson was this off-season. And it is not surprising that they didn’t do it. The guy that runs the show there is an absolute baffoon.

I’m not sure why you care so much? Watson is a scum bag. Fuck him.
Broncos not drafting  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:48 pm : link
a QB was always perplexing to me. Maybe they were trying to get Rodgers or thought they could get a Watson deal. But I'd rather have drafted Fields then wait for the idiots in Houston to do something. Hypothetically is Watson is able to play (I think he is but is not playing because reasons) Denver and WFT made both sense. We lost to both of them so who cares at this point. Houston holding off Watson makes no sense since he's not playing and lessens his value a bit.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:48 pm : link
I think you guys are completely misinterpreting what I’m saying. I could give a shit about Watson. I’m saying the fact that the Texans didn’t trade him was a disaster.
RE: …  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15380794 ryanmkeane said:
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Easterby is the moron who probably didn’t want to trade him in the off-season. Caserio can’t be that stupid.

Are you related to Watson? Your anger about this is absolutely bizarre. Again, why do you care so much about this?
RE: …  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15380799 ryanmkeane said:
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I think you guys are completely misinterpreting what I’m saying. I could give a shit about Watson. I’m saying the fact that the Texans didn’t trade him was a disaster.

But who cares?
RE: …  
ajr2456 : 9/23/2021 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15380799 ryanmkeane said:
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I think you guys are completely misinterpreting what I’m saying. I could give a shit about Watson. I’m saying the fact that the Texans didn’t trade him was a disaster.


Trade him when?? The second the allegations came out March 16 his trade value went into the shitter until he’s cleared
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:51 pm : link
BigBlue…who cares? I don’t know? Just having a convo about it on a message board because the Texans are playing? Jesus
RE: Darnold over Barkley  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/23/2021 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15380796 Carl in CT said:
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A huge hell no! Nelson, Chubb or Allen? That’s a convo to be determined.

If Reese wasn't fired Chubb would be a Giant, some say Allen but I doubt he'd take someone from Wyoming. Chubb would be nice, but like Barkley has injury problems during his career.
No team was going to give Houston a high draft choice for Watson  
Rick in Dallas : 9/23/2021 9:52 pm : link
Under his current situation. It would be a “clearance sale” trade for sure to rid yourself of Watson
BigBlue  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:52 pm : link
you need to relax my man. I do not care. I’m just saying it’s classic Texans that they didn’t rid themselves of this guy before the season
RE: …  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15380804 ryanmkeane said:
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BigBlue…who cares? I don’t know? Just having a convo about it on a message board because the Texans are playing? Jesus

That’s fine. But you seem legit pissed off about it. That’s what I was try to figure out. Go back and read your posts. There’s definitely an angry tone to them.

But whatever. Moving along now.
BigBlue  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 9:57 pm : link
I get it. I’m just saying that if I was a Texans fan, i would be very curious as to what the hell they are doing here. That’s all
At the moment, at least,  
Joe Beckwith : 9/23/2021 10:05 pm : link
Now that the Texans opened up the O, I’m jealous of the routes their receivers run: they get open.
RE: ajr  
jvm52106 : 9/23/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15380772 ryanmkeane said:
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what’s Watson’s status? Is he eligible to play or not? They are just letting him sit. They are paying his salary aren’t they? Why aren’t they trading him or cutting him?


Because word is if they try to play him the NFL may have to act as far as a suspension goes. Secondly the Texans don't want him and do not want to risk an injury that might make trading him later impossible. He will NEVER play for the Texans again.
Carolina’s  
Dukie Dimes : 9/23/2021 10:06 pm : link
Discipline reminds me of the giants.
Matt Rhule  
cjac : 9/23/2021 10:06 pm : link
Is sort of a cry baby
LOL...  
BillKo : 9/23/2021 10:07 pm : link
....Matt Rhule looks like he just rolled out of bed and decided to come to the game and coach....
RE: LOL...  
cjac : 9/23/2021 10:08 pm : link
In comment 15380817 BillKo said:
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....Matt Rhule looks like he just rolled out of bed and decided to come to the game and coach....


MA! I said I want FRENCH TOAST!?!?

What the FUCK!!!!
Horn's injury looks  
jvm52106 : 9/23/2021 10:09 pm : link
like an Achilles injury.
…..  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 10:09 pm : link
I find it laughably incompetent that any coach in the modern NFL would punt the ball on 4th and 5 or less from the opponents 40 yard line.
HOU should drop their price on Watson  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 10:11 pm : link
He will not play unless he gets cleared of most of these allegations. With 21 allegations, the chances of that happening are not very high.
His cap hit this year is low  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2021 10:13 pm : link
I understand keeping him especially if the legal stuff gets ironed out by early next year. They can afford to wait.
RE: …..  
Dukie Dimes : 9/23/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15380821 ryanmkeane said:
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I find it laughably incompetent that any coach in the modern NFL would punt the ball on 4th and 5 or less from the opponents 40 yard line.


Where have we seen this before??
big penalty there  
Del Shofner : 9/23/2021 10:15 pm : link
for helmet to helmet
RE: RE: LOL...  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 10:16 pm : link
and we're out of french onion dip again!


In comment 15380819 cjac said:
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In comment 15380817 BillKo said:


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....Matt Rhule looks like he just rolled out of bed and decided to come to the game and coach....



MA! I said I want FRENCH TOAST!?!?

What the FUCK!!!!
RE: RE: …..  
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15380825 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15380821 ryanmkeane said:


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I find it laughably incompetent that any coach in the modern NFL would punt the ball on 4th and 5 or less from the opponents 40 yard line.



Where have we seen this before??

Yeah, and we all said it at the time during the game last Thursday. An incompetent choice.
How  
AcidTest : 9/23/2021 10:18 pm : link
much of a trade market is there for Watson? His off the field problems are very serious and who wants to pay what the Texans are asking?

The Texans are missing several defensive starters IIRC, and have still only surrendered seven points.
This is  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 10:19 pm : link
better than watching a preseason game.



right?
Great  
AcidTest : 9/23/2021 10:21 pm : link
throw by Darnold. He looks miles better than he did with the Jets.
To my fantasy peeps  
littlejoe46 : 9/23/2021 10:21 pm : link
that TD helps no one!
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 10:27 pm : link
Again - the completely gutless decision to not go for it on 4th and 4 from the opponents 40 yard line - leads directly to a touchdown for the opponent. If you are a HC in the NFL you simply cannot do that anymore.
Chuba  
Producer : 9/23/2021 10:31 pm : link
isn't the same kind of back CMC is and he's not going to be able to run a lot of those plays. he's more a power guy, than a quick acceleration, hard cut guy.
bad PI call there  
Del Shofner : 9/23/2021 10:34 pm : link
imo
QBs lining up under center  
Debaser : 9/23/2021 10:34 pm : link
scambling when the play calls for it; passing to wide outs.... Liking Darnold and this kinda old school football.
Haason Reddick  
prdave73 : 9/23/2021 10:39 pm : link
already has 3 1/2 sacks for the season. Wasn't he someone the Giants were looking at in Free Agency? Typical Giants always late to the party.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 9/23/2021 10:41 pm : link
Why would you call a timeout there and then go for the field goal? Just let it expire and get the delay of game. Absolutely stupid.
RE: ....  
Debaser : 9/23/2021 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15380845 BrettNYG10 said:
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Why would you call a timeout there and then go for the field goal? Just let it expire and get the delay of game. Absolutely stupid.


So kick it from 5 yards further? Maybe they called a play and didn't like the look the defense was giving them. Good old school football ther.

They don't need no analytics nerd to tell them how to play. I think peopl e here look at the Ravens and think that is all ther is to football. They are ignoring dominant athletes; great execution ; and well coached well disciplined team. All the things the Giants currently are NOT. Really, I was watching some of the jints and with Danny boy it was like I was watching a college game for a little while . It was like the airline lost a college teams luggage and they borrowed jints uniforms. RPO, shotgun / short passing like 90 percent of them time etc.
why did the jets trade this guy again?  
Debaser : 9/23/2021 10:58 pm : link
why didn't the giants pick this guy again smh
there goes the Rookie WR  
prdave73 : 9/23/2021 11:01 pm : link
Terrace Marshall Jr. someone the Giants could of drafted in the 2nd rd. smh..
3 wins, 3 good games by Darnold  
widmerseyebrow : 9/23/2021 11:03 pm : link
Oh Jets...
Stop  
Carl in CT : 9/23/2021 11:05 pm : link
Sam is playing better but he is not as good as Jones. Don’t even try.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/23/2021 11:07 pm : link
Was a 1 point game until Culley punted on the 40. Game was over after that play call.
RE: Stop  
bw in dc : 9/23/2021 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15380856 Carl in CT said:
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Sam is playing better but he is not as good as Jones. Don’t even try.


He isn't?

I'm not saying Darnold is better than Jones, but he sure the hell isn't inferior to Jones...
I wouldn't say Jones has proved  
BeggarsBanquet : 9/23/2021 11:37 pm : link
he is better than Darnold. It's too early to say who is better. Last year they were both pretty bad.

My guess is that they both prove to be mid range QBs between #14 and #22. Good enough to play for someone, but probably not good enough to expect a championship run from them unless they land on a dominant roster.
Jesus  
Carl in CT : 9/23/2021 11:40 pm : link
Pick anything, career completion %, career QBR, QB Rating, it’s not close.
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GMen72 : 9/23/2021 11:42 pm : link
In comment 15380795 ajr2456 said:
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What I’m saying is, he might not get cleared. Every second that he stays on the Texans roster, his trade value is diminished.



But other teams know this too. Nobody’s trading anything more than like a 4th round pick for him right now. The gamble to wait and hope he gets cleared is worth it.


Rumor has it, the Texans already turned down 2 1sts and othe picks before the season started.

You are both playing the short/wrong game. His value is highest when the criminal aspect of this situation is over. Texans can pay him, and not play him, all year (they're going to suck with or without him)...and if the criminal investigation is over, his trade value is through the roof, especially with a weak QB class coming out of college.

In this case, the longer they hold him, the more his value increases...unless he faces jail time (which would've made any trade void anyway).
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Producer : 9/23/2021 11:47 pm : link
In comment 15380872 GMen72 said:
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In comment 15380781 ryanmkeane said:


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What I’m saying is, he might not get cleared. Every second that he stays on the Texans roster, his trade value is diminished.



But other teams know this too. Nobody’s trading anything more than like a 4th round pick for him right now. The gamble to wait and hope he gets cleared is worth it.



Rumor has it, the Texans already turned down 2 1sts and othe picks before the season started.

You are both playing the short/wrong game. His value is highest when the criminal aspect of this situation is over. Texans can pay him, and not play him, all year (they're going to suck with or without him)...and if the criminal investigation is over, his trade value is through the roof, especially with a weak QB class coming out of college.

In this case, the longer they hold him, the more his value increases...unless he faces jail time (which would've made any trade void anyway).


pretty much this is an exactly correct assessment of the relative leverage and mechanics of this market. I wouldn't say Watson's value increases over time, the Texans will lose opportunity cost, they are stifling a bit until this is worked out, but it is all about the criminal component. If they come through this without a criminal complaint, they will probably get three firsts.
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Toth029 : 9/24/2021 12:14 am : link
1) Joe Brady will have a coaching job next year

2) Hassan Reddick is on a one year deal. He had a career year and really didn't light it up with pressures on Arizona. But he's looked good. Now if he keeps it up: big deal or CAR loses him

3) Watson being paid right now is ridiculous. Screw the trade chatter. When Ben, Zeke, etc. were suspended, they weren't paid. Why is he not suspended, at least?
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Debaser : 9/24/2021 4:00 am : link
In comment 15380858 ryanmkeane said:
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Was a 1 point game until Culley punted on the 40. Game was over after that play call.


Um no. Game was over when Darnold marched his team down the field for a second time in a row. And he culkd have done it from mid-field if the Texans went for it, did not get it, and turned it over on downs; instead of his own 10 yard line.

This place really needs to get off of this "new football" shit. At the end of the day ; it still a physical contest. Some nerds meaningless stats do not win games. This team --the jints-- are not going to magically start winning games with a low skill QB; an inexperienced , low skill coach, and pretty much bad football team all around by calling RPOs every down and going for it on 4th down.
Giants and Panthers Hired new HC at same time  
DavidinBMNY : 9/24/2021 6:19 am : link
And the panthers are 3-0 and look good. I even live in NC, wishing here I was a panthers fan after the same old sorry start...
RE: Giants and Panthers Hired new HC at same time  
section125 : 9/24/2021 6:32 am : link
In comment 15380906 DavidinBMNY said:
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And the panthers are 3-0 and look good. I even live in NC, wishing here I was a panthers fan after the same old sorry start...


Well, then do so...why root for a shitty team?
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