I’m excited again. Find a way to win this game against a better team in that environment and the coaching staff gets a mea culpa from me for time being
I’m excited again. Find a way to win this game against a better team in that environment and the coaching staff gets a mea culpa from me for time being
I’m excited again. Find a way to win this game against a better team in that environment and the coaching staff gets a mea culpa from me for time being
Board should take a freaking knee or let the kickoff land in the end zone. Then Barkley with a super tentative run. OL looks miserable on the 3rd down play. Saints start at mid field.
who puts you in 2nd and long / 3rd and long on 95 % of the drives. He kills drives with his short yardage and tap dancing. He used to mask this with his 50 yard bursts once or twice a game but now he barely does that anymore either
barkley 2018 was the most electric rb id seen since barry sanders. he made a terrible o line look good. hed find holes. now hes tentative and much more limited.
maybe its the injury, not sure.
RE: You can't win games in the Nfl with a Rb like Barkley
who puts you in 2nd and long / 3rd and long on 95 % of the drives. He kills drives with his short yardage and tap dancing. He used to mask this with his 50 yard bursts once or twice a game but now he barely does that anymore either
My god…he’s been bad but his run was def not on him…literally every lineman was 2 yards in backfield in power with a fb! Garrett needs to scrap that
Bright well..seems to hit the hole hard when he get touches
Even Booker hits it harder! Barkley always appears to be looking for the home run, rather then taking what’s there. Too many negative runs due to the dancing.
Someone in the forum (last Sunday) said Garrett would be fired by last Monday afternoon. I LOL'ed at that one
I wish it were actually true. Dispose of Engram as well. See some heads roll.
No.. when the Giants are put into this position, the fire someone who does not matter so they can show the fans they are trying to make changes.
Like when we kicked the ball to DeSean Jackson and he scored on the punt years ago. It was an epic collapse by the team and horrible coaching. The punt was not the real reason for the loss. We basically lost that game before that punt... but we fired the punter making him the scapegoat.
I think Gary brightwell might be better than barkley
letting the saints just pin their ears back on 3rd and long. Either switch up the plays on 1st down or try a different RB who will hit the hole harder and get a few yards instead of looking for a HR every time
Giants draft a RB with the second pick, who needs a great oline and clever playcalling to be elite. So then the Giants then field a terrible oline and have traditional play calling two years in a row.
or catching on the outside. Why we continue to run him up the middle for no gain, is truly a head scratcher. That screams to me of an OC that is stubborn with his play calling and not using the strength of his players. Far too common of a thing.
we run SB up the gut for 0.5 yards. Tough to play offense like that. Perhaps they will figure it out they have to spread it out and use the pass/RPO to open of the run game.
or catching on the outside. Why we continue to run him up the middle for no gain, is truly a head scratcher. That screams to me of an OC that is stubborn with his play calling and not using the strength of his players. Far too common of a thing.
A fast defense that knows that's coming is going to shut that down to.
It's not like people don't have the book on Barkley. Everyone in the world knows he wants to take every run outside.
on some running plays (game in and gsme out this year). Jones comes to the line, under center in what is a running formation. Barks out signals and then points out mike and defensive alignment and moves a TE or WR from one side of the line to the other. Then just runs the play- usually an inside run. We never change the play just move guys to the opposite side. It is a fucking waste of time and a clear signal of the call coming.
or catching on the outside. Why we continue to run him up the middle for no gain, is truly a head scratcher. That screams to me of an OC that is stubborn with his play calling and not using the strength of his players. Far too common of a thing.
A fast defense that knows that's coming is going to shut that down to.
It's not like people don't have the book on Barkley. Everyone in the world knows he wants to take every run outside.
But someone in the Building still hasn't accepted that Barkley and Engram are not what they were supposed to be and need to be moved on from so they continue to force the issue when it is clearly not working
on some running plays (game in and gsme out this year). Jones comes to the line, under center in what is a running formation. Barks out signals and then points out mike and defensive alignment and moves a TE or WR from one side of the line to the other. Then just runs the play- usually an inside run. We never change the play just move guys to the opposite side. It is a fucking waste of time and a clear signal of the call coming.
We have been tipping our hand for years. This is not just a Jones thing. We would even tell the defense what we are doing based upon the personnel.
play by the Saints. Why call a deep pitch on fourth and three? Kamara needed at least five yards just to get back to the LOS. They also should have kicked the FG.
Man the Saints lose two good lineman, and they just keep rolling on the ground. I don’t think they challenge this, but it took a big play by Williams to stop that.
play by the Saints. Why call a deep pitch on fourth and three? Kamara needed at least five yards just to get back to the LOS. They also should have kicked the FG.
If Yiur not going for it on 4th. Mr conservative strikes again. I don’t care that gano missed the kick. Judge is a joke and it really shows. He coaches like it’s 1994. Field position and points. We’re an 0-3 team on the road. Make a statement and go for it. Just terrible job believing in your team. The offense was moving well let them get a crack at it.
. Hey Judge…might want to grab a set sometime this decade. Our red zone scoring percentage is terrible partly because he refuses to go for it. 4 and 1 on a drive me moved the ball well and Saquon looked solid? Dude is a pussy.
Press conference? Putting a product on the field the fans and city can be proud of? Stop playing scared! Play to win the damn game! Stop trying FGs on 4th and 1 inside the red zone.
How are you supposed to have good redzone football when your coach goes all risk it no biscuit on 3 and 1 and refutes to go for it on 4th.
It really was awful. If you pass on 3rd you better go again on 4th. Otherwise why run a risky "big hitter" play like that. They were trying to get Rudolph open against the flow
Is he not getting open? Has Garrett forgot he’s on the team? Is Engram going to get another ball thrown his way? How about getting Barkley out there on a wheel route? Garrett sucks!!
I got mocked by multiple people saying Ross and Slayton weren’t competing for snaps when they literally give you mostly the same thing. Difference being is Ross is an actual better deep threat.
Saints played that poorly. They should have known we'd likely take a deep shot there. A lot of teams do, especially after a missed FG or TO. Ross was also on the field.
Garrett refuses to throw the ball down the field enough
Graham refuses to not give the WR a 10 yard cushion or bring a blitz to help with the lack of pass rush.
3 Coaches all stubborn to adjust and all play conservatively
And now of course no time to do anything. I don’t care if we win this game tbh….Joe judge is a fat clueless pussy. He makes McCarthy look like a genius. There’s an alternative universe where we are up 14–7. God he’s a ducking idiot
This team runs for more yards than they pass and can't handle stunts. Most of that drive was a soft, plain defense. This staff is happy just being close in games. They coach that way. All 3 have to go but Garret is actually better than JG and PG today. They stink
know why Peyton was so heated, you just know they're going to get the TD anyway against this team..there's something cosmic against the Giants in these situations..or they just suck.
Defense again folds at end of half. New Orleans has a 2-1 play advantage and get the ball to start second half. Could be ugly second half if our D does not get them off quickly to start the half.
and Graham are extremely conservative ? I'm really wondering if this is their own doing or being ordered by Joe " afraid to lose " Judge to coach conservatively
Colts just went for it on 4th and 2 from their own 27
is least of worries right now. Judges philosophy and in game decisions is an issue. Lack of consistent edge pass rush is a big problem. Run game is not there.
like the sky is falling in close games. The point is they wouldn’t be close so we can lose at halftime the last fucking 4 weeks. Judge is a fucking idiot.
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
So if The Giants lose this game you are saying there are not going to be the usual crowd blaming him ? They just havent showed up yet because hes been good so far in the game
is least of worries right now. Judges philosophy and in game decisions is an issue. Lack of consistent edge pass rush is a big problem. Run game is not there.
Oline is bad but I'd love to se Kamara on this team. Barkley is no Kamara. Great guy but not a Kamara.
is least of worries right now. Judges philosophy and in game decisions is an issue. Lack of consistent edge pass rush is a big problem. Run game is not there.
+1
RE: RE: Once again Jones is far and away the best player on offense
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
You’re kidding right?
RE: RE: Once again Jones is far and away the best player on offense
So if The Giants lose this game you are saying there are not going to be the usual crowd blaming him ? They just havent showed up yet because hes been good so far in the game
Look man, it seems like you're really preoccupied with this. Everyone's watching the game without picking out Jones and you're out here apparently trying to will the 'anti-jones crowd' into showing up to argue with you.
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
Obviously happy its tied - but the Saints sure doing there best to keep the giants in it with all those trips over midfield and nothing to show for it..
But, one chip shot miss from having the lead at half.
Um, yeah. That's been every single game.
Can't seem how that's encouraging. Judge literally has learned nothing from giving away wins. Putting all the work in, getting to where you want to be, and then making decisions seemingly designed to lose the game.
I forgot he was even playing, which is a great thing for an O-Lineman. Man, I really hope Isaiah Wilson pans out because I can't stand seeing Solder out there anymore and Peart is probably best as a swing T.
RE: RE: RE: Once again Jones is far and away the best player on offense
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
Obviously happy its tied - but the Saints sure doing there best to keep the giants in it with all those trips over midfield and nothing to show for it..
Very Giants-esque, really. Moving the ball and no points to show for it.
RE: RE: RE: Literally no one is complaining about Jones
So if The Giants lose this game you are saying there are not going to be the usual crowd blaming him ? They just havent showed up yet because hes been good so far in the game
Look man, it seems like you're really preoccupied with this. Everyone's watching the game without picking out Jones and you're out here apparently trying to will the 'anti-jones crowd' into showing up to argue with you.
Not really. There is a lot wrong with the offense but Jones isn't the issue. That is all. I have seen him blamed way too much when it's glaringly obvious that He has no running game, Garrett doesn't call plays down the field enough, and Judge is a pussy coach afraid of his own shadow
It’s just that the offense does not fool anyone and becomes too easy to defend. Redzone is always an adventure as well. We just can’t score points inside the 20. Maybe we need to take more shots outside the 20
RE: RE: Once again Jones is far and away the best player on offense
I'm convinced that the Jones defenders are insecure in their belief "he's the guy" because of preemptive strikes, constantly following certain posters around to tell them their wrong, etc
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
They leave the other team on the field way too long. Saints had like 21 minutes of play. How is the offense to get in any sync when coming up with a big TD and not really seeing the ball again for like a half hour real time
Sorry..didn’t read the thread but on 3rd down and about 1:15 to play Judge had to use a TO. Time wasn’t an issue for the Saints but he is just clueless
They leave the other team on the field way too long. Saints had like 21 minutes of play. How is the offense to get in any sync when coming up with a big TD and not really seeing the ball again for like a half hour real time
Offense does not get enough opportunities with the ball and there’s no margin for error. It also means we can’t score enough. The D can’t get off the field!
RE: Everyone thought the Giants would get blown out
I forgot he was even playing, which is a great thing for an O-Lineman. Man, I really hope Isaiah Wilson pans out because I can't stand seeing Solder out there anymore and Peart is probably best as a swing T.
And that's the deal. You don't want to hear about an OL during the game. Thomas is quietly making his mark.
0 Td with Ross TD taken away due to the Fumble
1 Int on the Hailmary
In the postgame threads they can point to 0 TD and 1 INT and say Jones sucks and Offense doesnt score enough with him starting
And the pro Jones guys will tell us 7 points in 30 minutes of football is on everyone except Jones. 10 bad players and one victim.
What more would you have liked to have seen from Jones in that half ? I'm genuinely wondering.
Before you answer just note the Saints had the ball for over 20 minutes in the half because the defense can't get off the field and he has no running game so he is always in 2nd /3rd and longs
Defense is imbalanced. Strong interior and zone at corners. Weak on edges and now in middle with Martinez out in the second level. Ryan and McKinney have not played well this year so far.
Bunch of loser players and a loser DC. Give up big plays in big spots all season. What's pathetic is that unlike two years ago where that was every drive, this team is good enough to make these stands the rest of the game. But when it's time to man up they bend over.
Seriously there needs to be a connection with local schools or something about bullying. If kids are feeling down and have low self-esteem have the New York Giants visit them. I'm sure an eleven-year-old could bitch slap these players around. Cupcake soft.
That guy can't even do angry right let alone run a sports franchise. That was the most pathetic attempt at visceral anger I've ever seen. Just hire someone else to do it you out of touch fuck.
I’m slowly getting there. It’s only the 4th game of the year and it’s over already! I’m sick and tired of this shit every fucking year it seems! 2016 feels like a century ago!
broadcast. Carl Banks is stuck in 1985, the coaching staff the same, and Mara is clueless and people like Banks have his ear. This is another game where we should have had a comfortable lead into halftime but Judhe has no idea what’s going on. You can bitch about the 5 missed tackles like it’s 1985 out there or you can realize this is an offensive league where coaches give you the edge.
I’m slowly getting there. It’s only the 4th game of the year and it’s over already! I’m sick and tired of this shit every fucking year it seems! 2016 feels like a century ago!
Why hurt your body when your set for life? Not for the loser team, that’s for sure
Video on how not to tackle. I am so out on Graham’s defense.
I'm done with Graham but that play wasn't on him. It's not like he handed Jackson and Bradberry the vaginas they just flashed to the entire world like some Instagram whores
So now the 1 INT stat is an accurate reflection of his day so far.
That was a nice drive and some really good throws by Jones. But that play wasn’t there and he carelessly threw it anyway. Luck to have the change to get 3 there.
I am bringing in WRs on 1st and 2nd down. Play fake to Barkley and a roll out to Jones giving him an option to pass or run. Very low chance we lose yardage on a play like that. Very good chance Jones scores
Maybe Rudolph should drop a shoulder and try to get in
Maybe the reason why Jones doesn’t have r TD passes is because Garrett. Refuses to pass in the red zone
The guy is TERRIBLE in the red zone. Then again, he had one play but he just can't fit it in in these situations.
12 TD’s 0 int’s his rookie year. The playcalling fucking stinks in the RZ. Not one play action or fade to Rudolph or Golladay. Terrible. End around was laughably bad.
This is the worst part of this year…judge plays not to get blown out
So Mara will bring him back. No joke this roster DG constructed could be 3-1 after this week. I watch waaaay too much football for anyone to tell me Judge is nothing but a college coach, he belongs there with his “this is the way we do things” and his ability to motivate.
Read option, or give Jones more than one shot at the end zone. Didn’t anyone really think saquon would fight for three yards, or Engram would do anything of value, way to wate first and second down
On the Rudolph completion, Ross was wide open heading into the end zone and Jones bird digging the TE throws it to Rudolph instead.
Another DJ red zone mistake.
No it wasn't Rudolph was the 1st red and had single coverage. You need to understand football. You can't just slo-mo after the fact as if you have 20 seconds
Not even a single QB run call that close to the goal line
Unfortunately Garrett doesn’t have it in his red zone playbook
And we have a QB who’s one of the fastest, most athletic guys on the field. But let’s not roll him out on a run/pass option, let’s run an end around to Engram instead
He probably adopts animals from shelters and gives homeless vets his spare change and all that shit but I wouldn't trust him carrying my groceries to my car.
seems like forever we've had a pick, or a timely sack, or a timely stp
Or urgency at all, keep an even jealous out there, no need to get yourself worked up at all. See, the flags will help us. This team is unwatchable and is a gutless team, and that is a reflection of the head coach.
so lets run Barkley for nothing on 1st down
then run a reverse sweep to Engram on 2nd down
Then lets kick a FG when we need a TD .
Coaching is horrendous
And killing them with the hurry up offense (something Jones has done well each time they have used it over the last three years) but then when they get to the red zone, let's huddle up and give NO a chance to regroup, substitute and get their guys some air.
So Mara will bring him back. No joke this roster DG constructed could be 3-1 after this week. I watch waaaay too much football for anyone to tell me Judge is nothing but a college coach, he belongs there with his “this is the way we do things” and his ability to motivate.
I have no problem with them completely cleaning house but yeah i don’t buy this team no having talent. The coaching is REALLY bad.
Gettleman today needs to open their eyes. The QB is playing legit franchise QB play, and the LT is shut down. The coaching has let the team down again and again this year
so lets run Barkley for nothing on 1st down
then run a reverse sweep to Engram on 2nd down
Then lets kick a FG when we need a TD .
Coaching is horrendous
And killing them with the hurry up offense (something Jones has done well each time they have used it over the last three years) but then when they get to the red zone, let's huddle up and give NO a chance to regroup, substitute and get their guys some air.
The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
100% agree.
When the Giants were a good team with Eli a decade ago, every now and then they'd lose a stinker. As a fan, I'd watch the game and "feel" the Giants were better but the game would just drag on, the Giants never got their stride, and would lose.
That's how almost every game feels now. You get the impression the Giants should be running away with the game (esp Washington and Atlanta), but they just don't.
It’s too bad it’s practically impossible to overcome poor HCing in this league. I honestly don’t care if we beat Saints and than Cowboys (McCarthy is no joke better than Judge at this point) we won’t win division unless judge figures it the fuck out. He’s the difference between winning and losing with this roster and he’s been dogshit.
Gettleman today needs to open their eyes. The QB is playing legit franchise QB play, and the LT is shut down. The coaching has let the team down again and again this year
You have a mighty expansive definition of "legit franchise QB"
Gettleman today needs to open their eyes. The QB is playing legit franchise QB play, and the LT is shut down. The coaching has let the team down again and again this year
if he is a franchise QB, he has to see Rudolph was covered and hit Ross on that 3rd and goal
The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
I have eyes. I have watched this team for years. The Roster is not terrible this year. The coaching is horrendous and cost us 2 maybe 3 games depending on today. It's ok if you disagree it's just my opinion
The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
How can you deny that the coaching is completely holding this team back? This team could win 8-10 games with better coaching. I’m seeing a team today that wants to win and the coaching is holding them back.
The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
I have eyes. I have watched this team for years. The Roster is not terrible this year. The coaching is horrendous and cost us 2 maybe 3 games depending on today. It's ok if you disagree it's just my opinion
Similar to what I was thinking. Payton likes everyone to think that he's smarter than they are.
Your are right and yet he’s still coaching circles around Judge. How are we supposed to be good with a middling roster?
so you are comparing a coach who has been in this league and has one a superbowl to a first year head coach? he had BETTER be coaching circles around Judge
He is a huge issue . People are way too easy on him.
He puts the team into long 2nd downs and long 3rd downs. He doesnt run hard and doesnt have burst anymore. He is easily one of the worst starting RB in football these days. So sick of the excuses for him week after week . He does NOTHING to win games
He is a huge issue . People are way too easy on him.
He puts the team into long 2nd downs and long 3rd downs. He doesnt run hard and doesnt have burst anymore. He is easily one of the worst starting RB in football these days. So sick of the excuses for him week after week . He does NOTHING to win games
So the problem then are the coaches who either..
A. keep him in the game.
or
B. call the same plays with him leading to the same results
He is a huge issue . People are way too easy on him.
He puts the team into long 2nd downs and long 3rd downs. He doesnt run hard and doesnt have burst anymore. He is easily one of the worst starting RB in football these days. So sick of the excuses for him week after week . He does NOTHING to win games
Where are the holes? Do you see any?
Does the defense ever keep containment on the edge??
block feature. Zone running across the field that’s a PERFECT throw
Dont waste your time. It just shows people don’t know what they are watching. Engram had to sit in the zone. Compound his bad hands with lack of football IQ
lost us this game. Does he not understand that football is much easier when you control games. Fuck him even if they win.
Someone correct me if i am wrong, has he walked to the podium once this year and taken accountability and said “firstly, I need to put this team in a better position to win”. I haven’t heard it. Loves talking about what the players need to do, haven’t heard much on the coaches improving.
by all the complaining. But it's become quite enjoyable to see how miserable everyone here is. It's very easy to see why we were voted one of the worst fanbases in the nfl
Yes he is. They fall in love with him and Engram and here we are. I know some will want to say Jones but we can't run and Engram sucks and Rudolph is so slow. Get Toney the freaking ball please.
by all the complaining. But it's become quite enjoyable to see how miserable everyone here is. It's very easy to see why we were voted one of the worst fanbases in the nfl
by all the complaining. But it's become quite enjoyable to see how miserable everyone here is. It's very easy to see why we were voted one of the worst fanbases in the nfl
Worst team in football the last 5 years and fans don't have a right o be upset and complain watching this shit every week ?
Step away from the constant Judge/Jones bash/defend dance — and you see a Giants team that cannot run or stop the run between the tackles.
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
I keep saying it over and over... the game is won on the line of scrimmage. Fans get distracted by shiny things (flashy WRs, RBs, DBs, etc) but the game is won in the trenches.
Whenever we won a superbowl, we ALWAYS out-played the opposition on the line of scrimmage.
we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Garrett is busy calling more End arounds for Engram and Barkley up the OL ass
He could audible.
Can he though ? Do we know if he has that option ? I would not be surprised if he wasn't given that option with how conservative Judge and the coaching staff is
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Step away from the constant Judge/Jones bash/defend dance — and you see a Giants team that cannot run or stop the run between the tackles.
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
10 points ....
The Defense is on the field so much they better start scoring points
If you can't stop the run, you will be on the field a long time. You can't get off the field, you can't make stops. We can't run, which puts us in 2nd and long positions and screws up our redzone, and we can't stop the run
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
You don't post anything, you joined in 2004 and this was the only post you've made in recent times
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Who's everyone? Everyone in the Giants organization hates Joe Judge?
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who says every hates Judge
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Bull shit
lol how is this even arguable now. Dude Is a college coach
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Because Judge thinks the Defense should be capable of getting the other team off the field, but they’re just going to eat more clock now and we need two scores.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who says every hates Judge
A cousin of a friend of a friend was abducted by aliens and he said Joe Judge is a time traveler and was involved in the JFK assassination. Oh and all the aliens hate Joe Judge.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
He talks a good game, but it never translates to the field. It another losing season and most likely another top 5 pick!
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
At his initial presser, he spouted the usual cliches. But there was also the sense that he was going to be very detailed, use analytics, and manage to offense and defense closely. The stuff about teaching amd blue collar football was HS coaching speak. We thought we were getting a genius behind the scenes. We only got the HS coach it seems.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
You have no idea whether Mara loves Judge or not.
But Mara is still paying Shurmur. That would be the reason to keep Judge. Paying three head coaches at the same time is probably something that JM would prefer to avoid.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
You have no idea whether Mara loves Judge or not.
But Mara is still paying Shurmur. That would be the reason to keep Judge. Paying three head coaches at the same time is probably something that JM would prefer to avoid.
eh.. the Giants are profitable enough to pay three for a little while.
That were in worse shape than the Giants in prior years with the arrow pointing up (e.g. Bengals, Browns) and the Giants continue to wallow in obscurity? It seems like if there is a wrong choice to make, the Giants will make it.
Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
You have no idea whether Mara loves Judge or not.
But Mara is still paying Shurmur. That would be the reason to keep Judge. Paying three head coaches at the same time is probably something that JM would prefer to avoid.
They could have hired a random number generator at GM in 2018 and achieved a better result.
I’ve been yelling the thread header at the TV for about an hour and a half.
3-4 strength coaches the last 10 years and AK picks up 4-5yards hit at the line.
Team ineptitude, player indifference.
Graham needs to dial up some pressure . Sitting back and letting Winston pick them apart is just killing the clock and letting them march down the field
You guys don’t want to hear it but Jones is playing like a top 10 NFL QB this year and our coaching has taken it away from him
You might want to assess why your primary excitement comes from ranking Jones, and not that the Giants are back in a big game.
You can be excited by both at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. Having a potential Good Starting QB for years to come is something to be excited about
Don;t know if that is on Jones or if he is being told to do that from the sideline. the way judge coaches i'm going to assume he is being told to play like this
Jets and Colts are winning, which would leave us tied at 0-4 with Jax and Detroit. Sadly, our strength of schedule will be worse. Not to mention Atlanta beating WFT.
Jones with a chance to change the narrative about him
OK with that third down run. Make the FG less than 50. Gano is money, especially inside. It was also third and 10. The Saints were likely blitzing, and a sack takes us out of FG range.
OK with that third down run. Make the FG less than 50. Gano is money, especially inside. It was also third and 10. The Saints were likely blitzing, and a sack takes us out of FG range.
I think there no question. He was actually, dare I say it, looking intimidating.
The 5TD overtime win against WFT was pretty damn good, and probably better. But going into NO where they haven't had fans last year or to start this year, when no one expected it, is pretty good.
The QB is not the problem. The giants completely outplayed NO today. The soft coaching staff kept it close. Judge remains a pussy and Garrett still is terrible. Let. Jones. Sling.
The Saints have caused 3 turnovers a piece in each of their wins.
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This. Me too.
Better of using an app like Score than having to read through the insanity of a game thread.
Right lol? Every time...
special teams already horrible.
Someone in the forum (last Sunday) said Garrett would be fired by last Monday afternoon. I LOL'ed at that one
If you had dared to have this opinion in 2018 you were spurned by the BBI.
how much have you seen from McKinley to make that assessment?
And the Jets just gave up a 3rd and 21 to the Titans...
I wish it were actually true. Dispose of Engram as well. See some heads roll.
maybe its the injury, not sure.
My god…he’s been bad but his run was def not on him…literally every lineman was 2 yards in backfield in power with a fb! Garrett needs to scrap that
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I’ve progressively liked the Barkley pick less over time, but I’m starting to think he’s actually just not that good.
If you had dared to have this opinion in 2018 you were spurned by the BBI.
Even Booker hits it harder! Barkley always appears to be looking for the home run, rather then taking what’s there. Too many negative runs due to the dancing.
It’s like he’s doing the Victor Cruz at the beginning of the play instead of the end.
Why waste everyone time.
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Someone in the forum (last Sunday) said Garrett would be fired by last Monday afternoon. I LOL'ed at that one
I wish it were actually true. Dispose of Engram as well. See some heads roll.
No.. when the Giants are put into this position, the fire someone who does not matter so they can show the fans they are trying to make changes.
Like when we kicked the ball to DeSean Jackson and he scored on the punt years ago. It was an epic collapse by the team and horrible coaching. The punt was not the real reason for the loss. We basically lost that game before that punt... but we fired the punter making him the scapegoat.
I think brightwell is better at that. barkley sucks, enough please trade hes a loser.
+1. I didn't see the documentary, but he is an incredible inspiration.
Why waste everyone time.
Agreed.
It is a combination of both. Barkley would be seriously dangerous behind a line that could open holes. He is horrible when there is nothing there.
Mostly the line
garrett has to adjust
judge has to adjust
same with engram, TRY OTHER THINGS!!!!
I don't get it.
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Either way I'm getting really tired of Barkley.
Mostly the line
i dont agree gallman and morris was better than barkley last year, brightwell and booker would be better, barkley is a horrible down to down RB.
garrett has to adjust
judge has to adjust
same with engram, TRY OTHER THINGS!!!!
100%. He is not an above average nfl running back in week 4 of 2021, and refusing to admit that puts us in perpetual 2nd and 9.
I don't get it.
Hmmmmm! Does DJ have the green light to do that?
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Either way I'm getting really tired of Barkley.
It is a combination of both. Barkley would be seriously dangerous behind a line that could open holes. He is horrible when there is nothing there.
lol every rb is dangeorus like that. barkley is not tough, has no vision, always goes for home run, doesnt hit holes hard.
END THIS NIGHTMARE PLEASE??!!?!!?
Did he though?
same old stuff...never adjusts till there are injuries. dinosaurs.
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He had Toney.
Did he though?
I want Gallman back.. but it will not change much. The OL and play calling are near the bottom of the league
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He had Toney.
Did he though?
No he really wasn't open. People who are anti-Jones see what they want to see
you think a 15 yard overthrow is an accuracy issue? Okay…
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this line so far. Is Gallman still even in the NFL? The OL is getting killed
I want Gallman back.. but it will not change much. The OL and play calling are near the bottom of the league
Gallman would have two yards maybe vs Saquons zero
A fast defense that knows that's coming is going to shut that down to.
It's not like people don't have the book on Barkley. Everyone in the world knows he wants to take every run outside.
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this line so far. Is Gallman still even in the NFL? The OL is getting killed
I want Gallman back.. but it will not change much. The OL and play calling are near the bottom of the league
Gallman would have two yards maybe vs Saquons zero
Right... so what are we talking about here? The "team" is just bad
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or catching on the outside. Why we continue to run him up the middle for no gain, is truly a head scratcher. That screams to me of an OC that is stubborn with his play calling and not using the strength of his players. Far too common of a thing.
A fast defense that knows that's coming is going to shut that down to.
It's not like people don't have the book on Barkley. Everyone in the world knows he wants to take every run outside.
Fair point
its incredible.
We have been tipping our hand for years. This is not just a Jones thing. We would even tell the defense what we are doing based upon the personnel.
When Barkley is in, teams put 8 in the box.
Not sure if we did
Kamara’s elbow touched down but slid on the turf passed the marker.
sort of a dumb TO by Saints. If they ran that same play, they could go ahead and challenge and win. cant risk losing 2 TO on the same play
Yes.. Jones is supposed to elevate above that. The worst OL in the league is no excuse. If he was "great", the line would not matter.
Why not, we haven’t stopped one yet this year and our offense sucks ass
This has nothing to do with our D, and everything to do with modern football. They also don’t trust Rosas right now.
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It’s Jones fault already that the line is the worst in football right now.
Yes.. Jones is supposed to elevate above that. The worst OL in the league is no excuse. If he was "great", the line would not matter.
This only thing that is going to elevate some of the talent on this team is a literal elevator
We will run it up gut with Saquon
Giants line isn’t close to being the worst. Bears, Steelers, Seahawks, Texans, Dolphins are all much worse.
Because Payton has zero respect for our defense
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It’s Jones fault already that the line is the worst in football right now.
Giants line isn’t close to being the worst. Bears, Steelers, Seahawks, Texans, Dolphins are all much worse.
I would argue that
just loser impact.
Barkeley is killing this team
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He subbed out after that little dance he did
That’s poetic
Solder
I was shocked they gave them the first
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why not call that when hes in
He subbed out after that little dance he did
i meant when hes in. instead of running him up the middle, create a play for him like that to get it into space
Yeah, I thought he was short.
There was a nice hole. It’s when he doesn’t have the hole that he tends to dance rather then just taking what’s there.
hey we are not happy with Barkley but your comment shows you are not watching the games
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Really good spot there for the Giants. I’ll take it
I was shocked they gave them the first
Maybe the yellow line was inaccurate?
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Really good spot there for the Giants. I’ll take it
Yeah, I thought he was short.
I didn't think it was particularly close. Shocked Payton didn't challenge it.
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Peart must be horrendous if he can’t unseat Solder. I thought he showed promise last year. I guess the coaches haven’t seen it with him this year.
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Really good spot there for the Giants. I’ll take it
I was shocked they gave them the first
Maybe the yellow line was inaccurate?
On rewind it looks like it was a yard or so behind the sticks
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Really good spot there for the Giants. I’ll take it
I was shocked they gave them the first
Maybe the yellow line was inaccurate?
Quite possible.
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has just been flat awful. He is so easily knocked off balance and has no lateral mobility.
Peart must be horrendous if he can’t unseat Solder. I thought he showed promise last year. I guess the coaches haven’t seen it with him this year.
Agreed. And Peart cost us a third round pick.
My guess is 2 more touches.
Disagree. A dump off to slot at line of scrimmage on 3rd & 18 on own ~10? Lucky KT is a playmaker.
4th and 1 and he is scared to go for it when offense badly needs a lift. Im so sick of his pussy coaching
Go for it you bitch!
Yeah. You only call that play if you plan on going for it on 4th and 1
I agree we should have gone for it. We're 0-3. Show some guts.
FIRE HIM!!!!!!!!!
37 straight.
At risk of 0-4 and having your season killed, you have to go for it.
Way too conservative
every missed field goal is not a "choke". It was in the first half and the guy has been our team MVP. He is not going to make them all.
Vintage Gilbride, but he wanted to catch the Saints D sleeping IMO. Well he was aggressive there. We can’t complain about that.
Graham Gano is top in the league right now. Not a choke artist by any means.
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But even better call to not go for it on 4th and 1. I'm starting to despise Judge.
every missed field goal is not a "choke". It was in the first half and the guy has been our team MVP. He is not going to make them all.
A top NFL kicker should never miss a 35 yard field goal.
cant keep this guy, give someone else a chance to be a HC
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But even better call to not go for it on 4th and 1. I'm starting to despise Judge.
Graham Gano is top in the league right now. Not a choke artist by any means.
I didn't call him a choke artist but that kick was a choke.
You’re on the road in New Orleans, if you want to even have a chance, find your fucking balls
Garrett is too smart for that. He catches everyone by surprise
seen this one before a few tgimes
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But even better call to not go for it on 4th and 1. I'm starting to despise Judge.
Graham Gano is top in the league right now. Not a choke artist by any means.
I didn't call him a choke artist but that kick was a choke.
It's not a choke. Score is 0-0 in 2nd quarter. A choke is a game winner or a game clincher.
How are you supposed to have good redzone football when your coach goes all risk it no biscuit on 3 and 1 and refutes to go for it on 4th.
Judge is a fuckinng pussy afraid to lose playing for FG and field possession.
Blame Jones all you want, he is hamstrung by these losers
The gutless thing is gonna start to be tough for him to shake.
Running into the blocker for some reason. This is a badly badly coached team
Not fighting off his block and letting the OL take him away
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Running into the blocker for some reason. This is a badly badly coached team
It was comical. No ability to recognize what’s going on
Drive ends in TD!
Would you look at that?
I LOLed, but it’s not remotely funny.
Drive ends in TD!
Would you look at that?
MCCARTHY IS A BETTER GAME DAY COACH HILARIOUS HES A FOSSIL TO MCCARTHY LOLOLOLOL
Questionable calls on both sides and a missed FG
Kamala is 5’10 - 215, he is solid no doubt
Coward Ball
Graham has been instructed by Joe "Play Not To Lose" Judge to play not to lose.
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How are you supposed to have good redzone football when your coach goes all risk it no biscuit on 3 and 1 and refutes to go for it on 4th.
It really was awful. If you pass on 3rd you better go again on 4th. Otherwise why run a risky "big hitter" play like that. They were trying to get Rudolph open against the flow
im starting to believe DJ can be a franchise QB if not for the terrible owner, terrible GM, terrible HC, terrible OC, terrible RB and OL.
Watch him go elsewhere nad be a top 10 QB
If you keep five DBs out there, maybe they’ll pass for just 75.
Yes, that’s makes no sense but what do want from me?
Rosas… the undercover Giant.
im starting to believe DJ can be a franchise QB if not for the terrible owner, terrible GM, terrible HC, terrible OC, terrible RB and OL.
Watch him go elsewhere nad be a top 10 QB
It's going to be Sam Darnold 2.0 with him
Agree. Taht was not a smart move by Payton
Well we know he's not the arbiter of good decisions
After earlier I was surprised he didn't
yes its a TD let's fucking go
I didn’t know Jones could do that.
WAIT… WE ALL FUCKING KNEW HE COULD DO THAT!!
It was a hell of a battle between those two.
7-0 GMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fake news
Very alert.
Yup, great throw. Thank god Ross held on long enough
When he is on the field... he will make the safeties sit back. It opens up the space underneath for the slot and the TE
But Vilma is a special kind of horrible.
I got mocked by multiple people saying Ross and Slayton weren’t competing for snaps when they literally give you mostly the same thing. Difference being is Ross is an actual better deep threat.
They didn’t show out real speed with his feet in the frame but in slow-mo looked like an easy catch and down by contact
It was a hell of a battle between those two.
Yeah, I remember there being some serious plays there. Didn't one of them return a kick or punt for a TD too?
But Vilma is a special kind of horrible.
All he did was question if he had the possession and steps. The fumble doesn't matter if he didn't secure it.
Ross’s problem has been health and hands!
We're ahead 7-0 playing just the way we are. Not some idiotic fast pace.
Who would have guessed it???
Well if recent history is anything to go by we’ll be down 8-7 at half .
Now we have 2 legit guys that can take the tops off the defense. Keep the defense on their toes! LFG!
That throw and the throw earlier to Golladay were great!
Except the Giants already have thrown deep today.
Fumble and recovery
He sucks
Jones can't catch a fucking break with his stats.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
playing 10 yards off
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Opening up the offense for a deep shot for a QB that throws a good deep ball.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
Able to run the ball??? When?
They took a shot after a missed FG
As soon as the have a lead. It's like clockwork.
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Opening up the offense for a deep shot for a QB that throws a good deep ball.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
Barkley has 6 carries for 17 yards
Still shows a TD pass
Nickel package regardless of down, distance, or personnel.
It makes zero sense.
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Opening up the offense for a deep shot for a QB that throws a good deep ball.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
Barkley has 6 carries for 17 yards
I would just run screen passes with him all day. That is the most effective way to get him the ball.
Aidan Hutchinson looked GREAT yesterday.
We should have been able to get a PBU there.
Perfect ball by Jameis there.
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Opening up the offense for a deep shot for a QB that throws a good deep ball.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
Barkley has 6 carries for 17 yards
I would just run screen passes with him all day. That is the most effective way to get him the ball.
Did you notice his last few runs before the long pass?
Ran 1 up the gut for 6 yards.
Broke one to the outside for a good amount.
THAT's what opened up the long pass.
Notice nothing happened before he got those runs.
It's easy to establish a running game when the opponent lets you.
Because he had plenty of time
Before the half?
Carter Sucks
Graham refuses to not give the WR a 10 yard cushion or bring a blitz to help with the lack of pass rush.
3 Coaches all stubborn to adjust and all play conservatively
Huh?
You mean the Giants D that is pitching a shutout through the first 28 minutes?
Absolutely.
I count 3 times today.
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Carter Sucks
He’s awful against the run too.
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Carter Sucks
We haven’t found a serviceable defensive end in a decade
It is incredible! Graham is not aggressive enough in these moments!
Bend then break defense…
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Because he had plenty of time
Plenty of time? Disagree not with a 4 man rush, it was read 1. There’s like 5 guys in MFL of blowing that up
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Opening up the offense for a deep shot for a QB that throws a good deep ball.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
Barkley has 6 carries for 17 yards
I would just run screen passes with him all day. That is the most effective way to get him the ball.
Did you notice his last few runs before the long pass?
Ran 1 up the gut for 6 yards.
Broke one to the outside for a good amount.
THAT's what opened up the long pass.
Notice nothing happened before he got those runs.
That outside run was for 2 yards. Barkley had 1 good run for 8 yards thats it .
I guess when he has been so bad an 8 yard run feels like more . Kamara has 14 carries for 62 yards
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Because he had plenty of time
Plenty of time? Disagree not with a 4 man rush, it was read 1. There’s like 5 guys in MFL of blowing that up
He had time for a cup of coffee
New Orleans. Cuz of course.
So he can use them at halftime when he takes a piss… duh.
We may luck out and NO run out of time
Analytics show its the smart play but...he's just going with the feel of the game...lol
Our DTs not getting it done inside? Or is it now the subtraction of Martinez?
But he wasn't last year. Which is why this is so bizarre. He was a solid game day coach last year.
Absolutely.
I count 3 times today.
Judge is an idiot. His football IQ decreases 50% Sundays at 105pm
Joe judge is the biggest problem within this organization.
Peppers blows btw
bunch of loser coaches
It’s… umm. I don’t know what to say.
The Giants D letting up a TD at the end of the half?
Unfuckingbelievable!
Someone needs to ask Judge about this trend of giving up scores at the end of nearly every half and the end of every game.
my thoughts exactly.
What is wrong with this coach?
For this team.
I could of told you that since last year.
Good thing he's cheap!
I don't even think he'll ever make it to .500 as a head coach.
Yup, he and Bradberry have both been late a lot so far this season
Make that 5
77 yard field goal
Judge remembered that the first half timeouts don't roll over
That play is damning, he’s lost a step
Goddamnit!
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I could of told you that since last year.
D line stunts on TD. Why. Just power rush. F
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He's been fucking awful this year.
Good thing he's cheap!
Fuck it, just restructure
I don’t know what to say honestly.
As the Giants receivers are unaware that you actually have to try and get to the ball on a Hail Mary.
Yet. Is it your first day on BBI?
1 Int on the Hailmary
In the postgame threads they can point to 0 TD and 1 INT and say Jones sucks and Offense doesnt score enough with him starting
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enough already.
Yet. Is it your first day on BBI?
Noodle arm needs to put it in the end zone!
Im sure the crowd here on BBI will be bashing Jones over that
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enough already.
Yet. Is it your first day on BBI?
At least wait for the milk to spill before crying.
he messed it up
Give it time.
"L-o-l no tds and one pick? What a bum"
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
Too much of this from Judge this season.
Is that preemptive defensiveness?
So if The Giants lose this game you are saying there are not going to be the usual crowd blaming him ? They just havent showed up yet because hes been good so far in the game
I'd have rather seen Gano go for a 65 yarder, myself. Unless he thinks there's absolutely zero chance he can get it.
Oline is bad but I'd love to se Kamara on this team. Barkley is no Kamara. Great guy but not a Kamara.
+1
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Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
You’re kidding right?
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Is that preemptive defensiveness?
It's a fact. He's playing good. Better than every other offensive player. That's my point.
He has but no receptions.
Yes.
No targets.
No turnovers.
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But has Evan Engram been in the game?
Yes.
No targets.
No turnovers.
Thanks Shockey...LOL
Thank goodness, finally a positive on the Oline
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enough already.
So if The Giants lose this game you are saying there are not going to be the usual crowd blaming him ? They just havent showed up yet because hes been good so far in the game
Look man, it seems like you're really preoccupied with this. Everyone's watching the game without picking out Jones and you're out here apparently trying to will the 'anti-jones crowd' into showing up to argue with you.
It's a fact. He's playing good. Better than every other offensive player. That's my point.
Unfortunately you went ahead and made two points.
He played well. Very solid and composed in the pocket.
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And will get shit on
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
TenTonHammer...christian...meet Greg
Um, yeah. That's been every single game.
Can't seem how that's encouraging. Judge literally has learned nothing from giving away wins. Putting all the work in, getting to where you want to be, and then making decisions seemingly designed to lose the game.
-scored on inside 2 min? Check
I forgot he was even playing, which is a great thing for an O-Lineman. Man, I really hope Isaiah Wilson pans out because I can't stand seeing Solder out there anymore and Peart is probably best as a swing T.
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And will get shit on
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
TenTonHammer...christian...meet Greg
Just like you wanted.
Very Giants-esque, really. Moving the ball and no points to show for it.
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enough already.
So if The Giants lose this game you are saying there are not going to be the usual crowd blaming him ? They just havent showed up yet because hes been good so far in the game
Look man, it seems like you're really preoccupied with this. Everyone's watching the game without picking out Jones and you're out here apparently trying to will the 'anti-jones crowd' into showing up to argue with you.
Not really. There is a lot wrong with the offense but Jones isn't the issue. That is all. I have seen him blamed way too much when it's glaringly obvious that He has no running game, Garrett doesn't call plays down the field enough, and Judge is a pussy coach afraid of his own shadow
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Is that preemptive defensiveness?
I'm convinced that the Jones defenders are insecure in their belief "he's the guy" because of preemptive strikes, constantly following certain posters around to tell them their wrong, etc
To read the game thread you'd think the Giants are down by 20.
I'll bet that the posters at BSI (Big Saints Interactive) are bitching even more than we are.
1 Int on the Hailmary
In the postgame threads they can point to 0 TD and 1 INT and say Jones sucks and Offense doesnt score enough with him starting
And the pro Jones guys will tell us 7 points in 30 minutes of football is on everyone except Jones. 10 bad players and one victim.
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And will get shit on
Pop the champagne, the mediocre QB is far and away the best player on a worthless offense that yet again ends the first half with a sterling 7 points. Wooooohooooo!
TenTonHammer...christian...meet Greg
Just like you wanted.
My life is now complete. Go Giants
-scored on inside 2 min? Check
End of game will be very telling. That’s where they’ve also collapsed and given up games.
Not good.
Offense does not get enough opportunities with the ball and there’s no margin for error. It also means we can’t score enough. The D can’t get off the field!
To read the game thread you'd think the Giants are down by 20.
I'll bet that the posters at BSI (Big Saints Interactive) are bitching even more than we are.
The Giants are up at least a TD right now if Judge had just one clue.
Garrett throwing long again on third and one, and then Judge not going for it on fourth and one.
Garrett running Barkley into the line on first down.
Judge not calling a TO when the Saints were driving to preserve as much time as possible.
OL still not blocking well.
No pressure.
Missed tackles.
Kamara looks poised to bust a long run.
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1 Int on the Hailmary
In the postgame threads they can point to 0 TD and 1 INT and say Jones sucks and Offense doesnt score enough with him starting
And the pro Jones guys will tell us 7 points in 30 minutes of football is on everyone except Jones. 10 bad players and one victim.
Mike, didn't you know that Jones is the unluckiest qb in the history of football
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I forgot he was even playing, which is a great thing for an O-Lineman. Man, I really hope Isaiah Wilson pans out because I can't stand seeing Solder out there anymore and Peart is probably best as a swing T.
And that's the deal. You don't want to hear about an OL during the game. Thomas is quietly making his mark.
Not good.
Ehh…watching that game…running all over a bad Lions team…that is not sustainable at all for them.
To read the game thread you'd think the Giants are down by 20.
I'll bet that the posters at BSI (Big Saints Interactive) are bitching even more than we are.
they're only bitching because they know the giants are the worst team in the NFL.
They will. Unless we score again. And when the game is about to end.
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0 Td with Ross TD taken away due to the Fumble
1 Int on the Hailmary
In the postgame threads they can point to 0 TD and 1 INT and say Jones sucks and Offense doesnt score enough with him starting
And the pro Jones guys will tell us 7 points in 30 minutes of football is on everyone except Jones. 10 bad players and one victim.
and you think its because of him?
Not good.
Eh, it's the Lions. The Bears weren't going 0-17 this year.
Giants defense.
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0 Td with Ross TD taken away due to the Fumble
1 Int on the Hailmary
In the postgame threads they can point to 0 TD and 1 INT and say Jones sucks and Offense doesnt score enough with him starting
And the pro Jones guys will tell us 7 points in 30 minutes of football is on everyone except Jones. 10 bad players and one victim.
What more would you have liked to have seen from Jones in that half ? I'm genuinely wondering.
Before you answer just note the Saints had the ball for over 20 minutes in the half because the defense can't get off the field and he has no running game so he is always in 2nd /3rd and longs
Then they give up a huge chunk play
It’s weird. 2020 Bradberry doesn’t get beaten there. He’s been a step slow all season so far
Do you think Winston is good enough to be the Giants QB?
Then they give up a huge chunk play
It’s become laughable
I laughed. But now I'm hungry
Huge issue. Just kills this team n 3rd down & 2 min.
Bradberry is making the sad descent from All-Pro to All-Scrub
That is execution .... not coaching
Defense is imbalanced. Strong interior and zone at corners. Weak on edges and now in middle with Martinez out in the second level. Ryan and McKinney have not played well this year so far.
I am crying laughing.
Not looking good
To read the game thread you'd think the Giants are down by 20.
I'll bet that the posters at BSI (Big Saints Interactive) are bitching even more than we are.
How many games are you comfortable with Judge giving away? We're currently at 'most of them'.
I like the subtle shot on Jones when everyone else has been shit.
joe judge!!!!!!
Much like the last 9 years
Three plays and a TD, culminating in a play with seven broken and missed tackles.
IDK, the Lions might be giving us a run for our money
Fuck is old ass. I'm sick of it.
only way massive change from ownership inclucing tisch will come pathetic
+1
Where the Giants go to … eat oranges?
Not yet. I think he's still working himself up to pacing furiously.
Bunch of loser players and a loser DC. Give up big plays in big spots all season. What's pathetic is that unlike two years ago where that was every drive, this team is good enough to make these stands the rest of the game. But when it's time to man up they bend over.
So that there’s no last two minutes in first half and no first two minutes at start of second half?
Oh, right, it's because none of the DBs that he used 11 picks on in the past three drafts are worth a damn either.
Pathetic. Middle linebacker in the B gap goes for a strip. Wtf
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Today?
Fuck is old ass. I'm sick of it.
That guy can't even do angry right let alone run a sports franchise. That was the most pathetic attempt at visceral anger I've ever seen. Just hire someone else to do it you out of touch fuck.
I’m slowly getting there. It’s only the 4th game of the year and it’s over already! I’m sick and tired of this shit every fucking year it seems! 2016 feels like a century ago!
TenTonHammer...christian...meet Greg
I was merely responding to your usual tongue bath of our mediocre QB, you drooling nitwit
They’re punching teams in the mouth for 60 minutes
So that there’s no last two minutes in first half and no first two minutes at start of second half?
And no taunting. That’s the real enemy here.
Nothing more laps won’t fix !
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All of it.
I’m slowly getting there. It’s only the 4th game of the year and it’s over already! I’m sick and tired of this shit every fucking year it seems! 2016 feels like a century ago!
Why hurt your body when your set for life? Not for the loser team, that’s for sure
I'm done with Graham but that play wasn't on him. It's not like he handed Jackson and Bradberry the vaginas they just flashed to the entire world like some Instagram whores
Effort on one of the plays wasn’t exactly something to write home about.
Right.
I noticed that as well
Ah, nice. Because I thought this was year 3 for Jones.
All of them
Rudolph was not open and there was NOBODY else to throw to in the end zone
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career begins today.
Ah, nice. Because I thought this was year 3 for Jones.
He has to save the team. Rise up.
Needed seven on that drive. Another failure
Can’t win in the NFL.
stop hes the best player we hve with horrible ownership gm coach oc....fu you have to see this lololollollolololololol
Another DJ red zone mistake.
That was a nice drive and some really good throws by Jones. But that play wasn’t there and he carelessly threw it anyway. Luck to have the change to get 3 there.
That could not have been a serious play call. Is Garrett being blackmailed by Mickey Loomis or something?
then run a reverse sweep to Engram on 2nd down
Then lets kick a FG when we need a TD .
Coaching is horrendous
Maybe the reason why Jones doesn’t have r TD passes is because Garrett. Refuses to pass in the red zone
Does beating the spread count in the standings????
It’s not even like the ball was at the 20, it was 4 yards from the goaline
You're blaming that on Jones???? You've got to be kidding me!!!
We could be better quicker rather than later. Theyll probably still suck but at least I can dream.
Guy was NOT open.
Had to improvise there.
But great throws to get team down to 2 yard line!
Seriously that is bad.. What a Joke!! Who said it wasn't coaching???
Agreed.
You are going to blame him for those playcalls ?
12 TD’s 0 int’s his rookie year. The playcalling fucking stinks in the RZ. Not one play action or fade to Rudolph or Golladay. Terrible. End around was laughably bad.
yeah he is the ultimate gambler for vegas.
That could not have been a serious play call. Is Garrett being blackmailed by Mickey Loomis or something?
Vilma correctly denounced the call as horrible.
Another DJ red zone mistake.
No it wasn't Rudolph was the 1st red and had single coverage. You need to understand football. You can't just slo-mo after the fact as if you have 20 seconds
Fuck off man
Garrett and Judge have a 6'6" TE and don't run a corner fade.
But yes, Daniel Jones is the loser.
And we have a QB who’s one of the fastest, most athletic guys on the field. But let’s not roll him out on a run/pass option, let’s run an end around to Engram instead
Brutal
He probably adopts animals from shelters and gives homeless vets his spare change and all that shit but I wouldn't trust him carrying my groceries to my car.
Both Safeties were waiting for that.
unbelievable
Giants fan!
then run a reverse sweep to Engram on 2nd down
Then lets kick a FG when we need a TD .
Coaching is horrendous
And killing them with the hurry up offense (something Jones has done well each time they have used it over the last three years) but then when they get to the red zone, let's huddle up and give NO a chance to regroup, substitute and get their guys some air.
A sack???
I’ll just settle for some pressure.
The gadget fucks up! Nice play Bradberry!!!
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
We still got burned deep.
For the same reason you use jet sweeps to a tight end in the red zone.
Hill
...yeah but it was not Winston
I have no problem with them completely cleaning house but yeah i don’t buy this team no having talent. The coaching is REALLY bad.
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so lets run Barkley for nothing on 1st down
then run a reverse sweep to Engram on 2nd down
Then lets kick a FG when we need a TD .
Coaching is horrendous
And killing them with the hurry up offense (something Jones has done well each time they have used it over the last three years) but then when they get to the red zone, let's huddle up and give NO a chance to regroup, substitute and get their guys some air.
Yeah good point
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by Winston. Classic Winston.
...yeah but it was not Winston
Yep--missed that.
They'll march down to the 9, and then kick a field goal.
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Why would you use Hill we can’t stop Winston.
For the same reason you use jet sweeps to a tight end in the red zone.
+2.
100% agree.
When the Giants were a good team with Eli a decade ago, every now and then they'd lose a stinker. As a fan, I'd watch the game and "feel" the Giants were better but the game would just drag on, the Giants never got their stride, and would lose.
That's how almost every game feels now. You get the impression the Giants should be running away with the game (esp Washington and Atlanta), but they just don't.
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The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
One could say it’s been undisciplined play and use of Timeouts that have cost this team last two games.
Yup. Payton’s a heck of a coach, but on occasion his cockiness gets the best of him. Dumb play call. Glad we made the play that was there to be made
Similar to what I was thinking. Payton likes everyone to think that he's smarter than they are.
You have a mighty expansive definition of "legit franchise QB"
Right?? Payton is giving the Giants a chance??
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The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
I have eyes. I have watched this team for years. The Roster is not terrible this year. The coaching is horrendous and cost us 2 maybe 3 games depending on today. It's ok if you disagree it's just my opinion
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The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
How can you deny that the coaching is completely holding this team back? This team could win 8-10 games with better coaching. I’m seeing a team today that wants to win and the coaching is holding them back.
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The Roster is actually not terrible this year and could very easily be 3-1
The most comforting, seductive lies are the ones we tell ourselves
I have eyes. I have watched this team for years. The Roster is not terrible this year. The coaching is horrendous and cost us 2 maybe 3 games depending on today. It's ok if you disagree it's just my opinion
Becoming more clear with each passing game.
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Why would you use Hill we can’t stop Winston.
Similar to what I was thinking. Payton likes everyone to think that he's smarter than they are.
Your are right and yet he’s still coaching circles around Judge. How are we supposed to be good with a middling roster?
New Orleans challenge
Forever to get there
Payton is trying to out stupid our coaching staff.
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New Orleans challenge
Yea. Thx
It was second down
Did I miss it?
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Why would you use Hill we can’t stop Winston.
Similar to what I was thinking. Payton likes everyone to think that he's smarter than they are.
Your are right and yet he’s still coaching circles around Judge. How are we supposed to be good with a middling roster?
so you are comparing a coach who has been in this league and has one a superbowl to a first year head coach? he had BETTER be coaching circles around Judge
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very stupid. Even if they mark us short, it is 3rd down and 6 inches.
Payton is trying to out stupid our coaching staff.
Mayb the only way we win this
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Did I miss it?
Eh, it was just a catch, haha. Nothing that special, but it's Engram.
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Did I miss it?
He caught the ball and didn’t fumble. That’s the extent of it.
Play they should run for Engram goes to Rudolph.
He frequently runs soft and his vision lacks.
The sooner the team gets rid of Barkley and Engram the better
LOL.
One problem ... the primary job of a wide receiver is to ... catch the ball.
Yeah sure... he cannot catch so why dont we make him a receiver?
hilarious...
Play after play.
Year after year.
Why is he playing. How many more chances for this guy.
Costing us this game.
One of these days Saquon Barkley will break a tackle and my great grandkids will tell me and I’ll be drooling on myself in disbelief.
Now
Why the fuck is this clown still on the team? What kind of fucking bozo organization is this that keeps absolute hot fucking garbage is Evan engram?
kills us drive ending players, to, penalties missed blocks, drops....
no consequences tough guy judge what a lsoer what a dinoasaur worst coach in football. fire him!!!!!!!!
But this team will never give up on the idea that Engram is a weapon.
How we are still having to be subjected to this terrible player is a great mystery.
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Wide receiver
He practices hard. Plays awful. But he practices hard
Why is he playing. How many more chances for this guy.
Because the ball was behind him. Should be caught, but it wasn't a good throw.
They should move his contact.
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if you are not going to notice a different QB behind center for the opponent, then you are likely not seeing the other subtleties of the game.
Ergo my question why someone was saying Winston
I said it. I missed it and admitted it. You can keep piling on if you want. It won't change that I did it.
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They should move his contact.
They should give him contacts.
important role for a terrible team
But engram needs to be cut what a bum.
They should move him to another team.
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if you are not going to notice a different QB behind center for the opponent, then you are likely not seeing the other subtleties of the game.
Ergo my question why someone was saying Winston
I said it. I missed it and admitted it. You can keep piling on if you want. It won't change that I did it.
They share the same sleeping bag
Costing us this game.
EE could have caught it, but the pass was behind him.
Yup his accuracy on crossing routes is still a weakness
I am hammered and saw that coming a miler away.
The defense is epically BAD but you’re not winning NFL games with 1 TD
Yup
Maybe let's stop him? Just a though.
with 10 fucking points.
He is a huge issue . People are way too easy on him.
He puts the team into long 2nd downs and long 3rd downs. He doesnt run hard and doesnt have burst anymore. He is easily one of the worst starting RB in football these days. So sick of the excuses for him week after week . He does NOTHING to win games
I feel like you are ignoring the outside
You can’t hold teams to under 20 week in week out in the NFL every week these days
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Defend Engram
Because the ball was behind him. Should be caught, but it wasn't a good throw.
If he leads him with the ball there Engram gets clocked. Not a YAC situation, throw it directly at him to allow a secure catch and move the chains.
“Secure catch” and Engram are oil and vinegar however.
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Hardly.
He is a huge issue . People are way too easy on him.
He puts the team into long 2nd downs and long 3rd downs. He doesnt run hard and doesnt have burst anymore. He is easily one of the worst starting RB in football these days. So sick of the excuses for him week after week . He does NOTHING to win games
So the problem then are the coaches who either..
A. keep him in the game.
or
B. call the same plays with him leading to the same results
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Hardly.
He is a huge issue . People are way too easy on him.
He puts the team into long 2nd downs and long 3rd downs. He doesnt run hard and doesnt have burst anymore. He is easily one of the worst starting RB in football these days. So sick of the excuses for him week after week . He does NOTHING to win games
What game are you watching?
Giants have a recent history of completely underrated if there own defensive tackles. See Joseph
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Nope! It’s terrible
Dont waste your time. It just shows people don’t know what they are watching. Engram had to sit in the zone. Compound his bad hands with lack of football IQ
with 10 fucking points.
Last week it was 6, improvement! They're almost there!!! I'm gonna go drink bleach!!!!!!
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we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
try watching the games rather than reading the box score
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Missed tackles.
What game are you watching?
Outside of that he has 10 carries for 25 yards and 1 catch for -4 yards yet people say he isn't a big issue ?
But the Giants way. Or something.
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we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Fuck that. More sweeps to Engram.
That’s a fair summary.
That’s for nuclear waste, not football.
Can we get Thibodeaux AND Aidan Hutchinson????
The game was over after he chose to kick the field goal there
Someone correct me if i am wrong, has he walked to the podium once this year and taken accountability and said “firstly, I need to put this team in a better position to win”. I haven’t heard it. Loves talking about what the players need to do, haven’t heard much on the coaches improving.
Evan Engram wasn't where he was supposed to be ... on this team
Like a true RB should.
No need for the Saints to throw a pass on this drive.
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we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Garrett is busy calling more End arounds for Engram and Barkley up the OL ass
This staff is non-competitive and the players already look like they know it.
Can’t win like this…..
Maybe the generational running back comment was premature on old man gettleman account
Giants face Elliott and Pollard next week. Doesn’t get easier.
Can't run the ball, can't stop the run.
Deadly combo
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Barkley sucks. Engram sucks. Judge sucks. They all suck.
That’s a fair summary.
Left out Jason Garrett.
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Howard Cross said Jones put the ball right where it should have been. EE was supposed to sit in the middle, not keep running.
Evan Engram wasn't where he was supposed to be ... on this team
I laughed but damn...imagine turning down a draft pick for that turd
Yes he is. They fall in love with him and Engram and here we are. I know some will want to say Jones but we can't run and Engram sucks and Rudolph is so slow. Get Toney the freaking ball please.
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compared to Kamara
No holes. Our lone gets no push up front. Not sure why so many don’t see that
Ehh not really, he’s very slow to hit the hole when it’s there
They just need to keep people watching...
This staff is non-competitive and the players already look like they know it.
Its fine and dandy to say “we’re giving x coach 4-5 years” if he can keep the team. The way he’s coaching he’ll lose them this year and he’ll be gone.
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Defend Engram
Because the ball was behind him. Should be caught, but it wasn't a good throw.
If he leads him with the ball there Engram gets clocked. Not a YAC situation, throw it directly at him to allow a secure catch and move the chains.
“Secure catch” and Engram are oil and vinegar however.
Do you work for the Giants?
The second overall pick in the draft and has produced next to nothing since his rookie year. That is a big investment with very little return.
Worst team in football the last 5 years and fans don't have a right o be upset and complain watching this shit every week ?
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compared to Kamara
No holes. Our lone gets no push up front. Not sure why so many don’t see that
There’s a difference. Barkley stops and waits for a hole…Kamara just hits it hard
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
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we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Garrett is busy calling more End arounds for Engram and Barkley up the OL ass
He could audible.
Because he sucks
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compared to Kamara
No holes. Our lone gets no push up front. Not sure why so many don’t see that
There’s a difference. Barkley stops and waits for a hole…Kamara just hits it hard
That is the difference. Barkley needs a road paved for him. Kamara hits any daylight and gets positive yards.
Of course not ….Judge clearly wants this. If he gets fired it’s just Judge protecting his job. Seriously duck him, he belongs in college
How about him kicking Garrett, Graham and Judge in the Nuts!
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we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Garrett is busy calling more End arounds for Engram and Barkley up the OL ass
He could audible.
This isn't Madden. You obviously don't know how play calls in the NFL work.
Pretty sure Garrett has a religious exemption that prevents him from calling that play. Especially in the red zone
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
I keep saying it over and over... the game is won on the line of scrimmage. Fans get distracted by shiny things (flashy WRs, RBs, DBs, etc) but the game is won in the trenches.
Whenever we won a superbowl, we ALWAYS out-played the opposition on the line of scrimmage.
Wow.
Defense is sucking wind and beaten down.
LOL.
I don’t blame him for that last one
No need for the Saints to throw a pass on this drive.
This is what I said a few minutes ago.
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we have a RB that runs for a median 1-2 yard carry, a TE that just all around sucks, and coaches who can’t see it.
If you consider playing well his completion %, then yes he’s played well. How about more TD passes.
Garrett is busy calling more End arounds for Engram and Barkley up the OL ass
He could audible.
Can he though ? Do we know if he has that option ? I would not be surprised if he wasn't given that option with how conservative Judge and the coaching staff is
The kicking game was good until today
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
10 points ....
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with 5 bad tackles today.
I don’t blame him for that last one
It’s was probably useless, but it would be nice to see him try and put his arms AROUND the ball carrier.
You're an optimist.
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Step away from the constant Judge/Jones bash/defend dance — and you see a Giants team that cannot run or stop the run between the tackles.
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
10 points ....
The Defense is on the field so much they better start scoring points
Come on Sean, you're better than this
Jokes on you, we're used to shitty football!
It’s not even going to be funny.....staring at 0-5 again.
When will this ever get turned around! We keep saying the same thing every year!
give Barkley that hole. It was 2 yards wide
So they will fired Judge and hire Garrett
We will absolutely win some games and trick some people into thinking they're improving.
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Maybe we win three of them.
You're an optimist.
Oh yea, which 3? I said 2
They made business decisions in the 1st half, that’s the problem with relaying on guys who are on there 2nd contract
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Step away from the constant Judge/Jones bash/defend dance — and you see a Giants team that cannot run or stop the run between the tackles.
And that’s the reason the Giants cannot get off the field or score in the red zone.
10 points ....
The Defense is on the field so much they better start scoring points
If you can't stop the run, you will be on the field a long time. You can't get off the field, you can't make stops. We can't run, which puts us in 2nd and long positions and screws up our redzone, and we can't stop the run
You don't post anything, you joined in 2004 and this was the only post you've made in recent times
Who's everyone? Everyone in the Giants organization hates Joe Judge?
Vikings are 28th in YPC allowed. How come he isn't solidifying that run defense? It's more than one player.
This defense has more talent than last on every level, but underwhelming.
Like taking your dick out of a vice grip so you can slam it in a car door.
Heck, I’d let Freddie Kitchens BE Graham’s replacement.
Toney showing some heart.
They could have hired a random number generator at GM in 2018 and achieved a better result.
Up the middle
Where the f&%$!!! Is the interior Defense
Human joystick.
ONLY WHEN INJURIES THEY ADJUST LOSER COACHESSSSSSSSSS
Bull shit
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who says every hates Judge
This game was over last Tuesday
Go for it you losers
Brutal. Playing to not get blown out. Inexcusable
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Bull shit
lol how is this even arguable now. Dude Is a college coach
He's given a good accounting of himself with his first real opportunity.
No way
Toney drops it on 2nd down
3rd down nobody is open and Engram does nothing with it
Fans : 10 points is unacceptable for Jones he just can't get it done
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Bull shit
Dude Is a college coach
That's being generous
Because Judge thinks the Defense should be capable of getting the other team off the field, but they’re just going to eat more clock now and we need two scores.
I dont know... I have to look at the film
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who says every hates Judge
A cousin of a friend of a friend was abducted by aliens and he said Joe Judge is a time traveler and was involved in the JFK assassination. Oh and all the aliens hate Joe Judge.
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Gotta execute better.
I dont know... I have to look at the film
We’ll be alright
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
He’s flat out lying with that rumor.
Toney drops it on 2nd down
3rd down nobody is open and Engram does nothing with it
Fans : 10 points is unacceptable for Jones he just can't get it done
Exactly, if Toney catches that ball that hits him right in the middle of his hands, he gets 20+ yards on that with YAC
Toney drops it on 2nd down
3rd down nobody is open and Engram does nothing with it
Fans : 10 points is unacceptable for Jones he just can't get it done
Man, if this ain’t the truth
Cmon, he has been looking at multiple targets all game. That time he checked down because his pocket was crashing
He’s pulling a Costanza… it’s the only rational explanation.
This coaching staff is clueless. The ironic part is DG is going to take all the shit even with league average coaching this team is 2-2.
As a coach you’re waving the white flag there.
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
He talks a good game, but it never translates to the field. It another losing season and most likely another top 5 pick!
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
Mara may love Judge a lot less if we finish 2-15.
Judge is a loser and has completely lost the fanbase
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Gotta execute better.
I dont know... I have to look at the film
“Tape”, not film.
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Gotta execute better.
I dont know... I have to look at the film
We’ll be alright
First, let me say, the Saints played hard
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
You have no idea whether Mara loves Judge or not.
But Mara is still paying Shurmur. That would be the reason to keep Judge. Paying three head coaches at the same time is probably something that JM would prefer to avoid.
Burn it all down. He’s a joke. Good sound bites but absolutely brutal coach. Worst of all time potentially.
Yup. Chance of Giants stopping the Saints twice, even if we could score, is about 0.0%
I'm sick of being bamboozled and hoodwinked by Joe Judge
Who is blaming jones
Good.
No rational explanation for punting. Literally not one.
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
Mara may love Judge a lot less if we finish 2-15.
They’ll just promote Garrett.
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
You have no idea whether Mara loves Judge or not.
But Mara is still paying Shurmur. That would be the reason to keep Judge. Paying three head coaches at the same time is probably something that JM would prefer to avoid.
eh.. the Giants are profitable enough to pay three for a little while.
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Know Jones can play. It’s the fan that doesn’t no shit, barely watches and reads the newspapers thinks he knows something blames the Kid.
Who is blaming jones
No one. These knuckleheads want to have the Jones argument again. Just trolling for someone to bite the hook.
An actual stop? - ( New Window )
Toney drops it on 2nd down
3rd down nobody is open and Engram does nothing with it
Fans : 10 points is unacceptable for Jones he just can't get it done
You forgot the offensive line.
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Buy my dad has a friend who is in Giants organization. Apparently everyone hates Judge and he will be gone after the year. I mean it’s pretty obvious he is overwelmed so this isn’t some Great inside info, just confirming what we alll ready know.
Mara loves Judge. Not happening.
You have no idea whether Mara loves Judge or not.
But Mara is still paying Shurmur. That would be the reason to keep Judge. Paying three head coaches at the same time is probably something that JM would prefer to avoid.
Ah, poor fucking rich boy.
They could have hired a random number generator at GM in 2018 and achieved a better result.
I’ve been yelling the thread header at the TV for about an hour and a half.
3-4 strength coaches the last 10 years and AK picks up 4-5yards hit at the line.
Team ineptitude, player indifference.
?? It was right there. Why blame Jones for that?
Fuck it. i want to win this game badly
This is all on Payton. That was dumb actually calling the same play over again??? That's bad football. Really surprised by him today.
Need another three and out.
Probably just enough to give us hope and then dash us again
This could be a statement or a question? A stop would be nice.
LOL. Same here.
My favorite term in Football: "Chunk Play"
He’s played well all season.
LOL
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Is the kind of play made every week that costs games. Have to look at film, it was probably Daniel s fault, probably half an inch or so off the mark
Of course it was, I m being sarcastic, emphasizing the degree his critics go to devalue him
I ve been in his corner since day 1
?? It was right there. Why blame Jones for that?
Also, how is Garrett not getting Barkley into space more often.
This season has really driven home for me how this offense is hamstrung by Jason Garrett.
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Make a big stop here
This could be a statement or a question? A stop would be nice.
This is where they always collapse
After the last few years, we're seeing him grow up. Great plays being made, amazing throws... Lets get the W. We need this.
Probably just enough to give us hope and then dash us again
Exactly. The Giants have to raise our hopes near the end of the game so they can accomplish their mission of crushing the spirits of their fans.
You might want to assess why your primary excitement comes from ranking Jones, and not that the Giants are back in a big game.
Literally no one here blaming DJ
More tough running by Kamara.
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You guys don’t want to hear it but Jones is playing like a top 10 NFL QB this year and our coaching has taken it away from him
You might want to assess why your primary excitement comes from ranking Jones, and not that the Giants are back in a big game.
You can be excited by both at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. Having a potential Good Starting QB for years to come is something to be excited about
More tough running by Kamara.
When you have no run game...
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You guys don’t want to hear it but Jones is playing like a top 10 NFL QB this year and our coaching has taken it away from him
You might want to assess why your primary excitement comes from ranking Jones, and not that the Giants are back in a big game.
Whats happened in the past 7-9 years to give him confidence they’ll find a way to win this game?
What else, another hamstring
It's really inexcusable he doesn't call that more often
Dont worry.. he will place it perfectly in Barkley's hands when we call the draw on first down
Eh. I can go either way.
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Jones big moment?
Dont worry.. he will place it perfectly in Barkley's hands when we call the draw on first down
89 drive Eric J?
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He isn't going to survive this year, and that's fine.
Yup. Chance of Giants stopping the Saints twice, even if we could score, is about 0.0%
I was wrong here. Jones gets his chance
He’ll go conservative due to the time remaining
It sure seems that way.
Ridiculous not to get a play off there.
Jason Garrett brilliance… you wouldn’t understand.
no you can't put the game in his hands, he sucks, remember?
Don;t know if that is on Jones or if he is being told to do that from the sideline. the way judge coaches i'm going to assume he is being told to play like this
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Jones big moment?
Dont worry.. he will place it perfectly in Barkley's hands when we call the draw on first down
89 drive Eric J?
We have a better shot getting it in 89's hands vs 26 or 88.
???????? DJ already runs it too much for a QB. He leads the team in rush yards ???
Or does Judge play for the tie ?
This really is perfect time to pick up 20
Yeah, you can see the explosive potential on every play where he has space
The time management demanded a quick snap.
It’s two minute drill, with times outs, and a defense on the ropes.
This is the game right here. Who cares what happened before?
Dago unchained
Show them something they haven’t seen before on tape from us.
When Barkley doesn't run like an idiot he does just fine
They are going for tying FG obv
Finish this GMen!
Bad throw by Jones on the next play.
That was 100% on Judge.
Thats on Judge not Garrett for playing for the FG
So many mistakes that cost us the win in regulation, but maybe Giants can pull a rabbit out of the hat?
We’re gonna cover the spread. That’s as good as a win apparently.
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Thats on Judge not Garrett for playing for the FG
Good point
Wins are for losers.
Or something like that.
You have seen Joe Judge today, right???
Yup agreed.
They will not let him throw in the middle of the field..
I hate how he coaches not to lose instead of trying to win
3rd and 10. A sack takes us out of FG range. A FG was the right call here.
We could be 3-1.
🤪
I legit laughed out loud.
LFG!!!!!
I thought we found out on the last drive when we tied up the game.
I thought that’s what he said! Hmmmmmm
Heart and guts toward the end!
Yes he was inspired by Steve Weatherford
I wonder if he will get fined for that?
coaching scared
Yup
Heart and guts toward the end!
Agreed. I give them some credit. They look like they care.
Too much time left and shows zero confidence in the offense. I hated it.
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Peppers use the "F" word?
I wonder if he will get fined for that?
Absolutely he will
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Peppers use the "F" word?
Yes he was inspired by Steve Weatherford
Pretty sure he said
"We want that ball, fuck em!"
Yup, defense sucked it up, finally
Fyi they win with 6
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being conservative. I don't hate the draw in the position. Sack, holding or turnover game over.
Too much time left and shows zero confidence in the offense. I hated it.
I hear you. I felt they needed a TD to win as I don't like this game in overtime. Hopefully they pull it out.
He really was not quite out of bounds yet when he was first touched..
Didn't Jacobs have a funny one that went long in like 2008 or 2009?
Awesome comeback.
Barkley looked great too...
THAT DRIVE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED ALL YEAR>
Great comeback win
I’m shocked too.
Hell must have frozen over?
What happened????
What happened????
GIANTS WIN BABY!!!!
Barkley for 6!
WOW!
Threw for over 400 Yards
What happened????
Barkley touchdown
Great comeback win
I think there no question. He was actually, dare I say it, looking intimidating.
Best game he has played as a Giant since his rookie year. He was responsible for this win.
Loving this feeling of winning a game like this!!!!
Come back win for the Giants!!!
Team should feel very proud!!!
so cold….
Big kudos to the OL.
Best game he has played as a Giant since his rookie year. He was responsible for this win.
Loving this feeling of winning a game like this!!!!
X2
I agree. let the kid play....use Toney
Big kudos to the OL.
Underrated element today. Who was the o-line?
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Good for Jones. Good for Garrett.
Big kudos to the OL.
Underrated element today. Who was the o-line?
Thomas - Skura - Price - Hernadez - Solder.
Credit to the OL for handling the pressure.
It was beautiful.
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his career . He played like a franchise QB today.
Great comeback win
I think there no question. He was actually, dare I say it, looking intimidating.
The 5TD overtime win against WFT was pretty damn good, and probably better. But going into NO where they haven't had fans last year or to start this year, when no one expected it, is pretty good.
The line held up, Barkley ran hard, and Jones was so locked in.
This is a game you can build on.
The QB is not the problem. The giants completely outplayed NO today. The soft coaching staff kept it close. Judge remains a pussy and Garrett still is terrible. Let. Jones. Sling.
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Opening up the offense for a deep shot for a QB that throws a good deep ball.
Who would have guessed it???
Opening up the offense after they were able to run the ball.
Barkley has 6 carries for 17 yards
I would just run screen passes with him all day. That is the most effective way to get him the ball.
Did you notice his last few runs before the long pass?
Ran 1 up the gut for 6 yards.
Broke one to the outside for a good amount.
THAT's what opened up the long pass.
Notice nothing happened before he got those runs.
That outside run was for 2 yards. Barkley had 1 good run for 8 yards thats it .
I guess when he has been so bad an 8 yard run feels like more . Kamara has 14 carries for 62 yards
Bullshit.
At about 14:30 in 2nd qtr he also got a 7 yard run that he broke to the outside.
The line held up, Barkley ran hard, and Jones was so locked in.
This is a game you can build on.
And an offensive line that allowed some time and space to make it happen.