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EricJ : 10/3/2021 4:14 pm
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I take full responsibility for the win  
D HOS : 10/3/2021 5:09 pm : link
After Taysom's 2nd touchdown I got so disgusted that I turned off the game and went to take a nap. I can't remember the last time I missed even a single snap, preseason included. It's been years, if ever. The pervasive though in my mind was "and now there will be a big comeback and I will have missed it"

You're welcome!

Now you know what Parcells would say.
RE: Got to stop running Barkley on first down in first half  
Red Right Hand : 10/3/2021 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15396838 chick310 said:
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of games. Basically wasting a down.

Get the ball in the hands of Golladay, Toney and keepers with Jones.

Ross finally turning into a football player? That would be helpful too.
Ross has been a football player. He runs good routes, he adjusts, he makes athletic catches with soft hands. Except he drops a ton and is always injured. This nonsense about him not being a football player is Hooey, though. a tad similar to another player we have on offense. He can be amazing, or aggravating. Little in between.
Next week is going to be a tough one......  
Simms11 : 10/3/2021 5:14 pm : link
in Dallas.
RE: RE: Got to stop running Barkley on first down in first half  
ajr2456 : 10/3/2021 5:15 pm : link
In comment 15397011 Red Right Hand said:
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of games. Basically wasting a down.

Get the ball in the hands of Golladay, Toney and keepers with Jones.

Ross finally turning into a football player? That would be helpful too.

Ross has been a football player. He runs good routes, he adjusts, he makes athletic catches with soft hands. Except he drops a ton and is always injured. This nonsense about him not being a football player is Hooey, though. a tad similar to another player we have on offense. He can be amazing, or aggravating. Little in between.


To be fair, dropping a ton of passes would make you the opposite of a good football player when your job is to catch passes.
RE: It looks like we found our LT for the next decade  
GeofromNJ : 10/3/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15396731 Sean said:
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Actually it was Gettleman who found him. And maybe he hit on Toney as well. This is not to say that I want DG here next year. I don't.
RE: RE: Got to stop running Barkley on first down in first half  
chick310 : 10/3/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15397011 Red Right Hand said:
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of games. Basically wasting a down.

Get the ball in the hands of Golladay, Toney and keepers with Jones.

Ross finally turning into a football player? That would be helpful too.

Ross has been a football player. He runs good routes, he adjusts, he makes athletic catches with soft hands. Except he drops a ton and is always injured. This nonsense about him not being a football player is Hooey, though. a tad similar to another player we have on offense. He can be amazing, or aggravating. Little in between.


Ok, whatever.

He needs to build off this game and do what he is paid to do. And what has been expected from him for years.
RE: RE: It looks like we found our LT for the next decade  
DroppingDimes : 10/3/2021 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15397023 GeofromNJ said:
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Actually it was Gettleman who found him. And maybe he hit on Toney as well. This is not to say that I want DG here next year. I don't.


I agree completely.
Jones and Thomas are foundational pieces, and he added Toney and an extra 1st rounder next year, but it still feels like he got lucky.
Let's take what he's given us and let someone else build on it. If that happens, the DG tenure could be looked back at as a great success.
RE: …  
Mike from Ohio : 10/3/2021 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15396665 ryanmkeane said:
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Can we shut the fuck up about Daniel Jones for at least a week?


It’s weird to be a Jones fan first and a Giants fan second.

The Giants win a meaningful game for the first time in a long time, and all you can think about is attacking other fans about Jones.
RE: RE: It looks like we found our LT for the next decade  
Debaser : 10/3/2021 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15397023 GeofromNJ said:
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Actually it was Gettleman who found him. And maybe he hit on Toney as well. This is not to say that I want DG here next year. I don't.


Is that really so? Not rain on the parade but the toney pick was a trade down; something gettle has never done in his career. At the age of 70 and being mentored by earne —who also never did it; it’s head for me to believe it wasn’t Garrett or judge
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FStubbs : 10/3/2021 5:34 pm : link
In comment 15396698 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Jones played exceptionally well.
The OL pass blocking was excellent. Thomas was phenomenal.

Two problems:

No real running game.
No pressure.



Coach Sale has done a great job with all the changes on the OL. Thomas really has improved. I am still hoping Peart plays a factor. Good snaps from Price.

Agree, they need to use the pass to set up the run. They did not even have Sheppard today. Very diverse group of weapons on this team.


Yeah, it's looking like after many years we may have found a guy who can coach offensive line. Thomas continues to develop well and the spare parts are holding together. That's a huge factor in Jones starting to show some improvement.
RE: RE: RE: It looks like we found our LT for the next decade  
FStubbs : 10/3/2021 5:35 pm : link
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Actually it was Gettleman who found him. And maybe he hit on Toney as well. This is not to say that I want DG here next year. I don't.



Is that really so? Not rain on the parade but the toney pick was a trade down; something gettle has never done in his career. At the age of 70 and being mentored by earne —who also never did it; it’s head for me to believe it wasn’t Garrett or judge


Or the Bears simply made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
RE: RE: RE: It looks like we found our LT for the next decade  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/3/2021 5:37 pm : link
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Actually it was Gettleman who found him. And maybe he hit on Toney as well. This is not to say that I want DG here next year. I don't.



Is that really so? Not rain on the parade but the toney pick was a trade down; something gettle has never done in his career. At the age of 70 and being mentored by earne —who also never did it; it’s head for me to believe it wasn’t Garrett or judge


If I remember correctly, it was Colombo who really banged the table for him.
FStubbs  
cosmicj : 10/3/2021 5:37 pm : link
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about the OL coaching during the game. The coaches backs were against the wall and the unit generally played well. Huge props in a very difficult situation.
RE: RE: RE: I think the biggest DJ plays  
Debaser : 10/3/2021 5:39 pm : link
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Were the two runs in OT. Forced the defense to honor the run. That www huge.




Totally agree. I guess the logic is that he can put it on the ground, or get hurt. But, there's no question he can run and can make a defense scared. He's like Hill who can throw - have no idea why Garrett refuses to use him.


if glennon is playing qb we cant win anything


How do you know that? Giants had some impressive receivers today that made plays as did bark
RE: RE: RE: Two  
Simms11 : 10/3/2021 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15397092 FStubbs said:
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Jones played exceptionally well.
The OL pass blocking was excellent. Thomas was phenomenal.

Two problems:

No real running game.
No pressure.



Coach Sale has done a great job with all the changes on the OL. Thomas really has improved. I am still hoping Peart plays a factor. Good snaps from Price.

Agree, they need to use the pass to set up the run. They did not even have Sheppard today. Very diverse group of weapons on this team.



Yeah, it's looking like after many years we may have found a guy who can coach offensive line. Thomas continues to develop well and the spare parts are holding together. That's a huge factor in Jones starting to show some improvement.


No sacks given up today! Very good pass pro today. Run blocking can be a lot better though. Skura certainly looked the part too.
Mike  
ryanmkeane : 10/3/2021 6:01 pm : link
are you that obtuse? Half the message board has already given up on Daniel Jones as a QB. In fact - there was a thread dedicated to it. A few of the normal team bashers have said, daily, that Jones is a “bad QB.”

Those same posters also said we shouldn’t even bother getting off the bus today.

So yeah - it feels good.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It looks like we found our LT for the next decade  
AcidTest : 10/3/2021 6:02 pm : link
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Actually it was Gettleman who found him. And maybe he hit on Toney as well. This is not to say that I want DG here next year. I don't.



Is that really so? Not rain on the parade but the toney pick was a trade down; something gettle has never done in his career. At the age of 70 and being mentored by earne —who also never did it; it’s head for me to believe it wasn’t Garrett or judge



If I remember correctly, it was Colombo who really banged the table for him.


Earnie traded down in the first round and took Kiwanuka. The irony is that after trading down he wanted to take Kelly Jennings, a CB from Miami, but deferred to the rest of the room because they wanted Kiwi.

Reese never traded down.
Great win!  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/3/2021 6:07 pm : link
Jones was absolutely fantastic. He is FAR from the biggest problem with this team. Loved seeing Golladay breakout in a big way. Barkley looked good and even Toney contributed in a strong way. Weird the offense played this well without Shep and Slayton. Nice to finally get a big win and in a stadium that has been somewhat of a house of horrors for this franchise, too. Win next week and we're right back in this thing.
Finally some playmakers!  
trueblueinpw : 10/3/2021 6:10 pm : link
Nice game by the offense and the defense. The Big Cat scratched! Great to see da Yung Joka out there. He looks like a play maker. Great game by Barkley. Great game by Jones. Great game by Kenny G! The O line was terrific. And the coaches were dialed in. Aside from Gano’s early miss the Giants played terrific complimentary football.
missed the game - was at a family gathering for grandkids' birthdays -  
Del Shofner : 10/3/2021 6:20 pm : link
- stopped checking my phone at 21-10

- nearly drove off the road when I heard on the radio driving home that the Giants won

- just watched extended highlights - holy moly, that was some comeback and Jones was awesome!
Just for the record  
Dave on the UWS : 10/3/2021 6:27 pm : link
does anyone realize that Jones is on pace for 5000+ yards- which would probably net him a ProBowl nod ( also Eli Never threw for 5000).
What Jones did in the 4th and OT matters more to me than total yardage or TO. Do it when the game is on the line - that’s what Eli was so special at
RE: Hey angry boomers  
SomeFan : 10/3/2021 6:31 pm : link
In comment 15396580 PakistanPete said:
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suck it :)
Dumbest post of last 10 years.
Hernandez and Solder  
Dave on the UWS : 10/3/2021 6:43 pm : link
had good blocks on the game winning TD. Skura was better than I expected at LG. Not sure why Peart isn’t getting any time at OT? He must be showing poorly in practice.
Big Win  
WillVAB : 10/3/2021 6:45 pm : link
Next week is even bigger. Gonna need to score to keep up with Dallas O.
Still not sure what Judge is doing with some of the clock management  
Giantfan in skinland : 10/3/2021 6:47 pm : link
End of the first half was a mess.
RE: Just for the record  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/3/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15397260 Dave on the UWS said:
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does anyone realize that Jones is on pace for 5000+ yards- which would probably net him a ProBowl nod ( also Eli Never threw for 5000).


On this point, frankly, A lot of guys are on pace for 5000 yards.


This list wasn't updated for todays games.
 
ryanmkeane : 10/3/2021 7:23 pm : link
Thomas and Jones have to keep building on these performances. Anyone else pissed that the Hail Mary INT is gonna count for his stats?
Just watching the game  
AcesUp : 10/3/2021 7:25 pm : link
You can see Jones performing. I don't think he's being asked to do much though outside of crunch time. If they believe in Jones they have to prove it with how they use him, I think he's earned it to this point of the season.
Jones  
AdamBrag : 10/3/2021 7:47 pm : link
is playing like a top 5 QB. This isn't an overreaction, he's been doing it for 3 weeks now.

The play calling was better, but still sucks.

Toney is so much fun to watch.
I’ll say this…  
ryanmkeane : 10/3/2021 7:51 pm : link
and Eric has been preaching it the last few years. We were an injury away from our WR corp being a downright bad unit year over year. The Toney pick makes you wonder how badly we needed to fill our WR room with talent just as much as OL or DL.

People were killing the Toney pick the last few weeks because we could have had Slater or AVT or whatever.

With Andrew Thomas playing the way he has, WR was a not only a good pick, but essential. If Toney isn’t on our team, with the injuries to Shepard and Slayton, we don’t come close to winning that game today. Hell - they might not be back for Dallas, but we have a chance knowing we have an extra legit weapon in the field.
RE: I’ll say this…  
giantstock : 10/3/2021 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15397449 ryanmkeane said:
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and Eric has been preaching it the last few years. We were an injury away from our WR corp being a downright bad unit year over year. The Toney pick makes you wonder how badly we needed to fill our WR room with talent just as much as OL or DL.

People were killing the Toney pick the last few weeks because we could have had Slater or AVT or whatever.

With Andrew Thomas playing the way he has, WR was a not only a good pick, but essential. If Toney isn’t on our team, with the injuries to Shepard and Slayton, we don’t come close to winning that game today. Hell - they might not be back for Dallas, but we have a chance knowing we have an extra legit weapon in the field.


+1

Until today Toney showed nothing.

After today, there is a good expectation.
RE: Big Win  
giantstock : 10/3/2021 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15397304 WillVAB said:
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Next week is even bigger. Gonna need to score to keep up with Dallas O.


Also going to need to run the ball and ball control to some extent to keep the Dallas O off the field. Our offense can't match theirs over the long haul.
 
ryanmkeane : 10/3/2021 7:56 pm : link
Granted, the OL is absolutely still somewhat of a mess. But trading back and taking one of the better weapons in the draft seems like a good move. WR has been an absolute mess for years. We’ll see what happens.

But Thomas is a shutdown left tackle right now, and he’s only getting better. They’ve got a couple high picks on the OL - let’s see if Sale can get these guys playing at a high enough level to let Jones and Barkley do their thing.
RE: Hernandez and Solder  
T in NJ : 10/3/2021 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15397299 Dave on the UWS said:
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had good blocks on the game winning TD. Skura was better than I expected at LG. Not sure why Peart isn’t getting any time at OT? He must be showing poorly in practice.


I was in the car for most of the game ( until I shut it off at 21-10). I watched the replay and was giddy watching the blocking on that run.

Solder blocks his guy out and Hernandez turns his guy. Skura pushes his guy past Barkley and the DB can’t make it between Hernandez and Skura. Price shades the linebacker so Saquon can run behind him. Thomas drives his DLman 4 yards downfield so even though he makes the tackle, Saquon is already over the goal line.
We won’t say Dimes is  
Carl in CT : 10/3/2021 7:59 pm : link
#7 in the league in QBR cause most think he stinks.
You coukd see the confidence Jones ia developing  
nygiants16 : 10/3/2021 8:27 pm : link
and he is starting to trust Golladay more
 
ryanmkeane : 10/3/2021 8:38 pm : link
It’s weird. Seeing highlights of Golladay, I sort of thought he was mainly an awesome deep threat and jump ball kind of guy. But he’s very good 20 yards and in and slants as well. Similar to Burress that way.
RE: …  
Ivan15 : 10/3/2021 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15397550 ryanmkeane said:
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It’s weird. Seeing highlights of Golladay, I sort of thought he was mainly an awesome deep threat and jump ball kind of guy. But he’s very good 20 yards and in and slants as well. Similar to Burress that way.

Exactly. He is not the deep threat. He is the. 3rd and long guy. GO TO.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I think the biggest DJ plays  
PatersonPlank : 10/3/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15397110 Debaser said:
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Were the two runs in OT. Forced the defense to honor the run. That www huge.




Totally agree. I guess the logic is that he can put it on the ground, or get hurt. But, there's no question he can run and can make a defense scared. He's like Hill who can throw - have no idea why Garrett refuses to use him.


if glennon is playing qb we cant win anything



How do you know that? Giants had some impressive receivers today that made plays as did bark


LoL still with the Glennon crap. Sure he could throw for 400 in New Orleans today
Is there a replay available for the game anywhere?  
Matt M. : 10/3/2021 9:00 pm : link
I missed today and currently have no DVR.
RE: Mike  
Mike from Ohio : 10/3/2021 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15397182 ryanmkeane said:
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are you that obtuse? Half the message board has already given up on Daniel Jones as a QB. In fact - there was a thread dedicated to it. A few of the normal team bashers have said, daily, that Jones is a “bad QB.”

Those same posters also said we shouldn’t even bother getting off the bus today.

So yeah - it feels good.


Obtuse? I’m not sure you know what that word means.

The tone and subject of your post was childish and small. I never suggested people were not down on Jones.

I was thrilled the team won today, as were most on this board. But posts like this and the anger from Danny Dimes just seems really weird to me.
RE: Is there a replay available for the game anywhere?  
Pete in MD : 10/3/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15397595 Matt M. said:
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I missed today and currently have no DVR.

You can watch on NFL Gamepass, they have a 7 day free trail if you don't want to pay $99 for the season. The condensed games are great IMO.
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AcesUp : 10/3/2021 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15397550 ryanmkeane said:
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It’s weird. Seeing highlights of Golladay, I sort of thought he was mainly an awesome deep threat and jump ball kind of guy. But he’s very good 20 yards and in and slants as well. Similar to Burress that way.


20 yards is an explosive play, the Giants define it as 16+ according to Duggan. He's being used in the capacity he's asked to, some of that was in the form of contested throws past the sticks which is definitely progress.
RE: Just for the record  
steve in ky : 10/3/2021 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15397260 Dave on the UWS said:
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does anyone realize that Jones is on pace for 5000+ yards- which would probably net him a ProBowl nod ( also Eli Never threw for 5000).
What Jones did in the 4th and OT matters more to me than total yardage or TO. Do it when the game is on the line - that’s what Eli was so special at


This isn't to take anything away from Jones, who I think is our QB of the present and future, but with a 17 game season we will see a lot of increased stats and records.
 
ryanmkeane : 10/3/2021 10:49 pm : link
Dare we say Solder had a ….very solid game?
Some of the Barkley takes here  
djm : 10/3/2021 11:43 pm : link
Are so ridiculous. Again people, game 4 since the surgery. Not every rb is Adrian Peterson and yet despite this fact Barkley is getting better and better every week and is going to get his numbers, barring misfortune. He helped them win today.

He’s not. a RB? Wtf are some of you talking about. Can we let this guy play some more before treating him like rashard Jennings? He averaged 4.0 ypc and scored 2 tds. He was huge when they needed him.

You’re not fucking benching Barkley. This latest narrative that Barkley actually sucks is typical echo chamber horse shit. Yes booker could use a few more early touches but some of you are sitting here acting like Barkley shouldn’t get rushes. Kidding me.
Every first round pick from DG  
djm : 10/3/2021 11:49 pm : link
Except baker of course, played well today. Barkley, jones, Lawrence, Thomas and Toney. God forbid these guys all stay healthy and build on this.

Lots of work to do. They didn’t guarantee anything today but they won a game they had to win. Beat Dallas then we can start to believe maybe something is really up. I’m afraid to show any hope but maybe this offense and team gets its sea legs earlier than last year when they showed signs week 8.
i'll take the victory on the road  
Platos : 10/4/2021 1:08 am : link
but man i wish we finished in washington and at home vs the falcons.

here's something i worry about. vs WAS jones looked great, some deep throws, some RO/RPO stuff. then vs. ATL none of that.

thats all gameplanning. and for this staff to always talk about players strength all day their actions dont show that. it's like if the last team our opponent lost too ran the ball a lot then we'll try to run. they need to build on this week not scrap it for a new gameplan.

dallas will be tough, i'm hoping the offense continues to open it up for DJ and Barkely and the defense toughens up because the cowpies have been putting up good points this season barring the SD game.
RE: RE: Just for the record  
Jesse B : 10/4/2021 6:27 am : link
In comment 15397364 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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does anyone realize that Jones is on pace for 5000+ yards- which would probably net him a ProBowl nod ( also Eli Never threw for 5000).




On this point, frankly, A lot of guys are on pace for 5000 yards.


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There is also an extra game to do it now
Hell of a game.  
St. Jimmy : 10/4/2021 6:30 am : link
After the Hill TD to go up 21-10. I thought they were dead. Excellent job after that TD.
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