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pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 7:50 am
just thought I'd start an NHL discussion thread - non-Rangers specific, but people can discuss any team (including the Rangers).

A lot of things to discuss:
1. Eichel activity picking up (LAK, NYR and LVG the rumored landing spots) I read yesterday it's beyond medicals at this point and the teams involved have seen them and are comfortable they have a treatment plan.

2. Two week pause in February for Olympics

3. Rule changes: not much, mainly just stricter enforcement of cross checking. Not sure how it will manifest, but my guess is two places - along the boards and in front of the net where cross checking has become almost an accepted method of play will become a penalty - early in the season expect a lot of those calls

4. Obviously COVID protocols, and cross border. The NHL has a lot of protocols for unvaccinated and fines or suspensions for missing those protocols, I'm not clear on all of them yet, but I do know in Canada if you are not vaccinated you cannot leave the team hotel for anything except team activities. Not sure if that's true in the US too.

Predictions? Expectations?
Very excited for  
HewlettGiant : 10/7/2021 7:57 am : link
Islanders new building. I hope starting 18 games in a row on the road does not impact us that much, road warriors.

Always fun to watch a new team...welcome Seattle.

Good luck to the rival Rangers with a top notch new coach (Not too much good luck)

Hope the Devils are a bit more competitive for their local fans

LGI

I actually feel very optimistic about my  
5BowlsSoon : 10/7/2021 7:59 am : link
Leafs this year. I think we added more grit, which we needed for the playoffs.

Hey pj, this is not meant to upset you because I root for your team because of my brother (I want him happy too)….but I have a bad feeling losing Weber is going to be bigger than your team imagined. He was a large body who cleared the front of the net and kept opposing teams from getting too frisky. I’m afraid the league is going to try to take out your two smallish stars to be-Suzuki and Caufield- and the Habs really don’t have a bona fide goon to protect them. I hope I’m wrong for yours and my brothers sake.

Anyhow, looking forward to your threads and expert analysis again this year.
I’m optimistic about the NYR  
Anakim : 10/7/2021 8:12 am : link
Everyone looks at least solid. I expect big seasons from Laf and Kakko.

And it’s so nice to have a coaching staff that knows what it’s doing. I had that epiphany last night after we called a TO when we got a 5-on-3. Mike Kelly draws up a play and we score almost instantly. With Quinn and Oliver, we’d be passing the puck around and not pulling the trigger.
lol  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 8:15 am : link
expert analysis.

Habs are not going to be good this year, but I do hope they get some good experience for Caufield, continued development from Suzuki, etc.

Weber is a huge loss. Price is coming off surgery and seems rushed, Danault is a bigger loss than people realize, and losing Kotkaniemi - while the right move - was unfortunate - though I do think Christian Dvorak is better in 2021-2022 than Kotkaniemi.

This off season felt strange  
Drewcon40 : 10/7/2021 8:16 am : link
...The Eichel off-season talk was tiresome and odd.

Out of all the locals, the Islanders have the most to look forward to. The Devils look to have improved. The Rangers do need some luck. I am not sure the roster moves improved them in a significant manner. They are relying on their youngsters improving. I am really bummed about Reaves.
Many experts  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 8:33 am : link
or at least online personalities have predicted the NYR will the stanley cup.

I can see a massive improvement just with coaching and I do believe in their off-season additions, but I think SC is ambitious.
Definitely looking forward to them dropping the puck  
Stu11 : 10/7/2021 8:34 am : link
Hopefully Covid doesn't mess up the Olympic tournament because that is one of my favorite 2 weeks of sports every 4 years, really missed it last time. Cautiously optimistic with my Devs. We're probably a year from contending.for a playoff spot but I'm real excited about seeing how the kids emerge this year. Hopefully Hughes and Ty Smith reach that next level, love Sharengovich and 2 of last year' s first rounders Dawson Mercer and Alex Holtz have had great camps. Mercer especially is almost a lock now to make the team. Adding Dougie Hamilton and Graves on the back end as a top pairing is a huge boost. The whole division is just so tough that the Devs could improve and still finish 6th or 7th.
RE: I’m optimistic about the NYR  
5BowlsSoon : 10/7/2021 8:34 am : link
In comment 15401841 Anakim said:
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Everyone looks at least solid. I expect big seasons from Laf and Kakko.

And it’s so nice to have a coaching staff that knows what it’s doing. I had that epiphany last night after we called a TO when we got a 5-on-3. Mike Kelly draws up a play and we score almost instantly. With Quinn and Oliver, we’d be passing the puck around and not pulling the trigger.


Here’s hoping Reeves is okay. I too am looking forward to seeing what Tom Wilson is going to do now…
RE: Many experts  
Anakim : 10/7/2021 8:36 am : link
In comment 15401856 pjcas18 said:
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or at least online personalities have predicted the NYR will the stanley cup.

I can see a massive improvement just with coaching and I do believe in their off-season additions, but I think SC is ambitious.


I mean that would be great obviously, but I agree with you, PJ. I think right now we’re a fringe playoff team that COULD make a run, but probably still need more seasoning. I would say our window really opens next year. Right now, it’s ajar.

But it’s been pretty evident thus far that Gallant is head and shoulders above Quinn. I liked Quinn as a person, but he really seemed to be over his head. Gallant is more hands-off and more of an old school guy.
RE: Many experts  
BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 8:37 am : link
In comment 15401856 pjcas18 said:
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or at least online personalities have predicted the NYR will the stanley cup.

I can see a massive improvement just with coaching and I do believe in their off-season additions, but I think SC is ambitious.


Rangers hater. They're winning it all.
RE: Many experts  
Drewcon40 : 10/7/2021 8:37 am : link
In comment 15401856 pjcas18 said:
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or at least online personalities have predicted the NYR will the stanley cup.


Before everyone jumps on this - I think most Ranger fans would agree the above prediction is not realistic.
RE: lol  
5BowlsSoon : 10/7/2021 8:38 am : link
In comment 15401844 pjcas18 said:
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expert analysis.

Habs are not going to be good this year, but I do hope they get some good experience for Caufield, continued development from Suzuki, etc.

Weber is a huge loss. Price is coming off surgery and seems rushed, Danault is a bigger loss than people realize, and losing Kotkaniemi - while the right move - was unfortunate - though I do think Christian Dvorak is better in 2021-2022 than Kotkaniemi.


I’m wondering if adding Savard to replace Weber was the right move. He seems a lot like that Dman you added who you are still paying for after you cut him 2 years ago- another slow mover. I forgot his name, but I’m sure you know. I’d like to hear your thoughts on Savard.
RE: This off season felt strange  
Anakim : 10/7/2021 8:40 am : link
In comment 15401845 Drewcon40 said:
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Out of all the locals, the Islanders have the most to look forward to.


Maybe this year, but the Rangers and Devils have a much brighter future. Those two teams have some of the best young players in the game and have two of the deepest and prospect systems. Islanders…not so much.


But with Barry Trotz, who knows? He can make chocolate mousse out of shit.
RE: RE: lol  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 8:46 am : link
In comment 15401864 5BowlsSoon said:
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expert analysis.

Habs are not going to be good this year, but I do hope they get some good experience for Caufield, continued development from Suzuki, etc.

Weber is a huge loss. Price is coming off surgery and seems rushed, Danault is a bigger loss than people realize, and losing Kotkaniemi - while the right move - was unfortunate - though I do think Christian Dvorak is better in 2021-2022 than Kotkaniemi.




I’m wondering if adding Savard to replace Weber was the right move. He seems a lot like that Dman you added who you are still paying for after you cut him 2 years ago- another slow mover. I forgot his name, but I’m sure you know. I’d like to hear your thoughts on Savard.


Alzner?

Savard makes half now of what Alzner did 4 years ago.

Savard is not a good defenseman, wasn't really signed to replace Weber, but it's a low level contract ($3.5M per year for 4 years). I'd have preferred shorter term, but that's not a killer contract.


RE: RE: Many experts  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 8:50 am : link
In comment 15401863 Drewcon40 said:
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or at least online personalities have predicted the NYR will the stanley cup.



Before everyone jumps on this - I think most Ranger fans would agree the above prediction is not realistic.


I know, and I didn't mean to stir shit, just showing the optimism for success outside the fan base.
Vegas is loaded this year, they have 11 capable NHL defensemen  
gtt350 : 10/7/2021 9:34 am : link
and will carry 6 or 7
and 4 solid starting lines,
We do miss Reaves and Ranger fans will warm up to him quickly. He hits anything in sight and backs up all his teamates
RE: Vegas is loaded this year, they have 11 capable NHL defensemen  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 9:40 am : link
In comment 15401903 gtt350 said:
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and will carry 6 or 7
and 4 solid starting lines,
We do miss Reaves and Ranger fans will warm up to him quickly. He hits anything in sight and backs up all his teamates


They will go as far IMO as Lehner takes them, and I like Lehner, seems like a good person and he's clearly goalie who has all the potential in the world, but I'd be nervous about him for a variety of reasons.

The disappearing act in the playoffs by Stone would also concern me. Dominated by Philip Danault.

.  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 9:41 am : link
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Finland's first three players for the Beijing Olympics: Sebastian Aho, Aleksander Barkov and Mikko Rantanen.
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pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 9:44 am : link
Complete Hockey News
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Team Sweden has named Victor Hedman, Mika Zibanejad and Gabriel Landeskog as the first three members of their 2022 Olympic roster.
Pumped for the Isles this year  
Metnut : 10/7/2021 9:59 am : link
Great mix of young and veteran talent. They’ve really put together such a deep roster. Really underrated prospect group too. They are set up to be a difficult out for years to come with Barzal and Pelech just entering their primes.

Very happy to see Boston leave the division. Hopefully someone can knock Tampa out early for once this year.
RE: Definitely looking forward to them dropping the puck  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15401859 Stu11 said:
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Hopefully Covid doesn't mess up the Olympic tournament because that is one of my favorite 2 weeks of sports every 4 years, really missed it last time. Cautiously optimistic with my Devs. We're probably a year from contending.for a playoff spot but I'm real excited about seeing how the kids emerge this year. Hopefully Hughes and Ty Smith reach that next level, love Sharengovich and 2 of last year' s first rounders Dawson Mercer and Alex Holtz have had great camps. Mercer especially is almost a lock now to make the team. Adding Dougie Hamilton and Graves on the back end as a top pairing is a huge boost. The whole division is just so tough that the Devs could improve and still finish 6th or 7th.

I'm very excited to see the Devils this season even if they are probably a year away from contending for a playoff spot.

I think both Mercer and Holtz are locks to start in NJ as both have had great camps and preseasons. The Sharangovich Hughes and Holtz line in the preseason has been outstanding and I would like to see them together to open the season. As for Graves and Hamilton I would prefer to split them up. I am hoping that Smith plays with Hamilton with Graves moving to the second line to team with Severson.
Jay I really think the Devs should look to move on from Subban  
Stu11 : 10/7/2021 10:06 am : link
Sooner rather than later. I'd much rather that spot on the 3rd pairing go to Bahl or Walsh or Sieganthaler. Don't get me wrong I like him he's a good guy and provides leadership and upside as a 3rd pairing guy I just would rather see a young guy get the chance. If we are out of it by the deadline PK is a goner then any way as an expiring.
Go Canes!  
Jints in Carolina : 10/7/2021 10:15 am : link
Would love to see at least an ECF appearance.
RE: Jay I really think the Devs should look to move on from Subban  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2021 10:19 am : link
In comment 15401924 Stu11 said:
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Sooner rather than later. I'd much rather that spot on the 3rd pairing go to Bahl or Walsh or Sieganthaler. Don't get me wrong I like him he's a good guy and provides leadership and upside as a 3rd pairing guy I just would rather see a young guy get the chance. If we are out of it by the deadline PK is a goner then any way as an expiring.

I agree the only problem is that would leave just Walsh as the only RD ready to step in. I would rather keep Subban early on since it won't be easy to move him because of his cap number. Regardless this will be the last year that Subban is a Devil.
Agree with PJ re: Lehner/Knights  
Eric on Li : 10/7/2021 10:23 am : link
loved Lehner on the Isles but I think they will regret moving MAF. I think they've been steering that boat with a broken rudder since Gallant left (it's a nice boat though).

For the NYI im ridiculously overexcited about Chara back. imo he's still a massive presence even if he's not nearly what he was in terms of minutes and hockey impact. They are going to lose some speed/offense with Leddy but he was up and down. Chara should be a really good partner for Dobson and make them even more of a pain to play against.

It will also be interesting to see if Parise has anything left. the PP has been the NYI biggest weakness. even incremental improvement there will have an impact.
RE: Agree with PJ re: Lehner/Knights  
Metnut : 10/7/2021 10:27 am : link
In comment 15401947 Eric on Li said:
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loved Lehner on the Isles but I think they will regret moving MAF. I think they've been steering that boat with a broken rudder since Gallant left (it's a nice boat though).

For the NYI im ridiculously overexcited about Chara back. imo he's still a massive presence even if he's not nearly what he was in terms of minutes and hockey impact. They are going to lose some speed/offense with Leddy but he was up and down. Chara should be a really good partner for Dobson and make them even more of a pain to play against.

It will also be interesting to see if Parise has anything left. the PP has been the NYI biggest weakness. even incremental improvement there will have an impact.


I’ve heard that the Isles are internally very optimistic with what they’ve seen from Parise in camp, so we’ll see. Wahlstrom hasn’t had the best camp and there’s a possibility he starts in AHL, but hopefully they are just trying to motivate him.
I haven't anticipated the opening of hockey season  
truebluelarry : 10/7/2021 10:30 am : link
as much as I am right now in a very long time.
I truly believe the Islanders have a real shot at the Cup this year, which is something I have not seen since I was in high school and Billy Smith was terrorizing Wayne Gretzky.
Let's drop the puck and get going!
I think Wahlstrom is in the top 12 but there may be some paper moves  
Eric on Li : 10/7/2021 10:31 am : link
for cap purposes with respect to maximizing LTIR since he isn't subject to waivers. Komarov has the higher salary so I think they may put him on the initial roster to get as close as possible to the cap and then eventually send him down to bring up Wahlstrom.
Brady  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 10:38 am : link
Tkachuk situation in OTT bears monitoring.

I'd love him to shake loose somehow, but doubt it. You never know with OTT though. The list of top 6 forwards and top 4 D they've traded is lengthy.

Both Tkachuk's IMO are the type of player I'd build around.
RE: I think Wahlstrom is in the top 12 but there may be some paper moves  
Metnut : 10/7/2021 10:38 am : link
In comment 15401955 Eric on Li said:
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for cap purposes with respect to maximizing LTIR since he isn't subject to waivers. Komarov has the higher salary so I think they may put him on the initial roster to get as close as possible to the cap and then eventually send him down to bring up Wahlstrom.


Yea, that wouldn’t surprise me. Maybe give Bellows a chance to start the year. Isles are apparently worried Johnston would be claimed on waivers, so expect to see him make the team.

Gustaffson has had a nice camp too and is dynamite on the power play. Issues are that isles would need to sign him which adds to the cap and Trotz might not want to carry a power play specialist.
Wow ... big News out of Montreal  
Burt64 : 10/7/2021 10:39 am : link

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#NHL and #NHLPA announce Carey Price is on leave from the #Habs while entering the Player Assistance Program.

Hope he gets the help he needs.
RE: I haven't anticipated the opening of hockey season  
Metnut : 10/7/2021 10:41 am : link
In comment 15401953 truebluelarry said:
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as much as I am right now in a very long time.
I truly believe the Islanders have a real shot at the Cup this year, which is something I have not seen since I was in high school and Billy Smith was terrorizing Wayne Gretzky.
Let's drop the puck and get going!


This is the third year in a row that the Isles are a legit cup contender and IMO the window should be open for a while.

They’ve just had the unfortunate luck to run a dynasty in the ECF back to back years. They are only short by a goal last year. Have to think they’d have won it all if the captain wasn’t hurt.
Players rumored to be on the trading block  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 10:42 am : link
besides Eichel

Kessel
Gaudreau (why? - no idea)
Filip Forsberg
RE: Wow ... big News out of Montreal  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 10:52 am : link
In comment 15401962 Burt64 said:
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Frank Seravalli
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#NHL and #NHLPA announce Carey Price is on leave from the #Habs while entering the Player Assistance Program.

Hope he gets the help he needs.


damn, get well Carey.
countries have until 10/15  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 10:53 am : link
to submit their 1st three names. I like this, kind of like a lottery.

Bruins winger David Pastrnak, Lightning forward Ondrej Palat and Blue Jackets forward Jakub Voracek are the Czech Republic's first three selections for 2022.
RE: RE: This off season felt strange  
Mike from Ohio : 10/7/2021 11:00 am : link
In comment 15401866 Anakim said:
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Out of all the locals, the Islanders have the most to look forward to.



Maybe this year, but the Rangers and Devils have a much brighter future. Those two teams have some of the best young players in the game and have two of the deepest and prospect systems. Islanders…not so much.


But with Barry Trotz, who knows? He can make chocolate mousse out of shit.


As an Islander fan, I will take that all day. I’d prefer to be a top team with the window open as opposed to hoping to reach that level soon.

The Rangers and Devils have a ton of young talent, but that is only one piece of a larger puzzle. For the Rangers, the you likely have a three year window with Gallant before he is gone. Getting from non-playoff team to SC Champion in 3 years is a tall order and will require a lot more than Kakko and Laf playing up to potential.
RE: Many experts  
Doubledeuce22 : 10/7/2021 11:13 am : link
In comment 15401856 pjcas18 said:
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or at least online personalities have predicted the NYR will the stanley cup.

I can see a massive improvement just with coaching and I do believe in their off-season additions, but I think SC is ambitious.


hahaha. The cup? Who the hell are you seeing predicting the Rangers to win the cup?
Carey Price  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 11:20 am : link
issue is mental health (not that it's anyone's business), but it's a different program than substance abuse.
Rangers and Devils  
Sammo85 : 10/7/2021 11:26 am : link
have to get to that next level and learn to win tough games and stretches against opponents (Devils a bit more of a jump for sure). But you can't deny the buildup in talent by either, with more waiting in wings to come next couple years.

Pens and Caps are teetering close to edge of possible quick decline soon. Caps are getting some age in key spots and having trouble with getting enough depth/young talent coming up. Same with Pens and its looking more like Malkins not a guy who can play a full physical game and last late into the season. They've both had great runs, but the bottom is going to fall out on them at some point and probably quickly.

Isles have been in a window now couple years. I think this is really a set of make or break years this season and next for them to get to the mountaintop. They still have solid talent in place, but Lou's made it clear they are a win now club and fans have to be ready for a possible rough/extended retool period coming in future years.
Devs need to take the next step  
Sec 103 : 10/7/2021 11:31 am : link
I think the team is poised to do that and start climbing to a solid playoff contender in 2 years or so. Would love to see them squeak in this year, time shall tell.
RE: Devs need to take the next step  
Sammo85 : 10/7/2021 11:36 am : link
In comment 15402006 Sec 103 said:
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I think the team is poised to do that and start climbing to a solid playoff contender in 2 years or so. Would love to see them squeak in this year, time shall tell.


They could. All I ask for is some exciting and consistently competitive hockey after the last three seasons where, outside of a game here or there, or excitement with a young player making debut, it's been hard to watch.
the most important parts of the NYI core are young  
Eric on Li : 10/7/2021 11:41 am : link
Barzal/beauvillier are each 24. JGP is 28. Those were their 3 highest scorers in the playoffs last year.
Pelech/Pulock are each 27. Dobson will likely be 3rd in mpg on D and he's 21. They actually have a decent pipeline of D at bridgeport too.
Sorokin is 26 and signed for 3 years.

any team trying to contend is going to have some veterans they need to recycle over time but the oldest players in the top 6 for the isles are Bailey (32) and Lee (31). The few really old players on the roster are on 1 year vet minimum deals (Parise, Greene, Chara).

the most important NYI is 59 and as long as he's behind the bench they will likely be competitive for the playoffs. The guy has made the playoffs like 20 of the last 21 years with all sorts of different rosters.
RE: RE: Jay I really think the Devs should look to move on from Subban  
Stu11 : 10/7/2021 11:47 am : link
In comment 15401942 Jay on the Island said:
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Sooner rather than later. I'd much rather that spot on the 3rd pairing go to Bahl or Walsh or Sieganthaler. Don't get me wrong I like him he's a good guy and provides leadership and upside as a 3rd pairing guy I just would rather see a young guy get the chance. If we are out of it by the deadline PK is a goner then any way as an expiring.


I agree the only problem is that would leave just Walsh as the only RD ready to step in. I would rather keep Subban early on since it won't be easy to move him because of his cap number. Regardless this will be the last year that Subban is a Devil.

Cap# is no issue. We can recapture any money we want of his salary in a deal. We're still way under the cap in fact I'd welcome it because it's only this season and it will better the return.
I liked the Devils  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 11:47 am : link
offseason.

The tuna (tatar) is so underrated, and Dougie Hamilton other than being scared of Ovi is about as solid as you get as a two-way defenseman. And Graves was disappointing in the PO's but otherwise he's been very steady.

Blackwood needs to be better and Bernier needs to prove he can be consistently reliable or not much of it matters.


Bold prediction (?)  
JayBinQueens : 10/7/2021 11:50 am : link
Devils finish ahead of the Rangers
RE: I liked the Devils  
Stu11 : 10/7/2021 11:58 am : link
In comment 15402023 pjcas18 said:
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offseason.

The tuna (tatar) is so underrated, and Dougie Hamilton other than being scared of Ovi is about as solid as you get as a two-way defenseman. And Graves was disappointing in the PO's but otherwise he's been very steady.

Blackwood needs to be better and Bernier needs to prove he can be consistently reliable or not much of it matters.


Yep I completely agree on the goaltending. I feel Blackwood has it in him to be a #1 on a winning team, he started out hot last year but then got Covid and wasn't the same afterwards. Was it Covid? Fatigue? Or simply coming back to earth. Bottom line he has to prove it for a full season. I think the metro area here has some exciting times ahead with the Isles being a solid cup contender and the young talent of the Rangers and Devils. I would hope Pitt and Washington would fall off at some point but I'll believe it when I see it. Ovi seems capable of scoring 50 forever and just when you count the Pens out, they had a great regular season last year.
Excited to see how the Rangers do  
NYerInMA : 10/7/2021 12:00 pm : link
I think they should make the playoffs, but we'll see.
RE: RE: I liked the Devils  
Jay on the Island : 10/7/2021 12:08 pm : link
In comment 15402038 Stu11 said:
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Yep I completely agree on the goaltending. I feel Blackwood has it in him to be a #1 on a winning team, he started out hot last year but then got Covid and wasn't the same afterwards. Was it Covid? Fatigue? Or simply coming back to earth. Bottom line he has to prove it for a full season. I think the metro area here has some exciting times ahead with the Isles being a solid cup contender and the young talent of the Rangers and Devils. I would hope Pitt and Washington would fall off at some point but I'll believe it when I see it. Ovi seems capable of scoring 50 forever and just when you count the Pens out, they had a great regular season last year.

Blackwood was one of the best goaltenders in hockey prior to COVID. When he came back he was absolutely awful until later in the season when he began to turn around again. He is the key to the Devils success this season. I like Bernier but I don't want him playing 45+ games. Blackwood isn't vaccinated which is going to be a major issue when the team travels to Canada.
In the Metro  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 12:13 pm : link
I think NYI and CAR are a cut above the other teams in the division but I no longer put WAS or PIT in that class.

I think WAS, PIT, NYR, PHI all comparable and will finish within a couple points of each other - and this is where coaching (Gallant) can make a difference. Even CAR has goalie issues that can sink a season.

but I also think the top 3 teams in the Atlantic (TBL, TOR, and BOS) are better than the best teams in the Metro with BOS main question being common theme around the league....goalie. I might even put FLA above the Metro teams.

The Atlantic is stacked (at the top) this year (on paper).

RE: the most important parts of the NYI core are young  
Mike from Ohio : 10/7/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15402018 Eric on Li said:
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Barzal/beauvillier are each 24. JGP is 28. Those were their 3 highest scorers in the playoffs last year.
Pelech/Pulock are each 27. Dobson will likely be 3rd in mpg on D and he's 21. They actually have a decent pipeline of D at bridgeport too.
Sorokin is 26 and signed for 3 years.

any team trying to contend is going to have some veterans they need to recycle over time but the oldest players in the top 6 for the isles are Bailey (32) and Lee (31). The few really old players on the roster are on 1 year vet minimum deals (Parise, Greene, Chara).

the most important NYI is 59 and as long as he's behind the bench they will likely be competitive for the playoffs. The guy has made the playoffs like 20 of the last 21 years with all sorts of different rosters.


Very good post. The Isles are a veteran team, but the perception that their core is 30 years old and about to decline is inaccurate.

Their talent pipeline on the offensive side is not great, but as you mentioned, their scoring is largely coming from guys in their mid-to-late 20s. Lee, Nelson and Bailey are between 30 and 32 and none rely on speed/skating as a big part of their game.

The 4th line is getting up there, but I have no doubt Lou and Barry can handle a transition on that line over the next couple of years.
USA names their first three for 2022 Olympics  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 12:18 pm : link
Patrick Kane, Auston Matthews, and Seth Jones.

USA has their best crop of players for an Olympics ever, but man Canada is so stacked (as usual).
Avs weak  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 12:52 pm : link
link gets weaker.

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Avalanche goalie Pavel Francouz will be out 3-4 weeks with a lower-body injury. #GoAvsGo
NYR  
PwndPapi : 10/7/2021 12:56 pm : link
I'm generally down on Drury's moves in the offseason. I think Kakko is primed to take a big step in year 3 and how far they go will depend on the growth of Laf and the young defensemen. I think SC is unrealistic based on the current makeup of the team. I think the young blueliners will need another year of development and I'm still not convinced Igor is a franchise goalie until he can prove he can stay healthy, focused, and fit for longer stretches before this team can be considered a serious contender. I'm higher on guys on Schneider and Robertson than Lundkvist, though it would be terrific to have two puck-moving/PP points who are not turnover machines in their own zone (eg. DeAngelo).

No way the Devs finish above the NYR.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 12:59 pm : link
Kakko hits 60 points.

Chytil hits 50.

Rangers make the playoffs, lose in six in the first round to the Hurricanes.

No other predictions.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 1:00 pm : link
Anak and Davisian's preferred 2020 #1 pick, Quinton Byfield, fractured his ankle. Sucks.
RE: Bold prediction (?)  
BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15402028 JayBinQueens said:
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Devils finish ahead of the Rangers


Do you expect the Rangers to disappoint and miss the playoffs or do you think the Devils will just be really good?
RE: RE: Bold prediction (?)  
JayBinQueens : 10/7/2021 2:03 pm : link
In comment 15402157 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 15402028 JayBinQueens said:


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Devils finish ahead of the Rangers



Do you expect the Rangers to disappoint and miss the playoffs or do you think the Devils will just be really good?

A little bit of a and a little bit of b.

I think the Devils will be the most surprising team this year.
Rangers/Devils  
five5 : 10/7/2021 2:54 pm : link
from a NYR fan...agree that Devs finish ahead of the Rangers. Rangers are still lacking in their defensive end. Team defense isn't good. Allow too many quality shots. Shesty will need to be great for them to sniff the playoffs.
My East  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 3:07 pm : link
so Atlantic and Metro Predictions

Atlantic:
TBL*
TOR*
BOS*
FLA*
MTL
OTT
DET
BUF

Metro:
CAR*
NYI*
NYR*
WAS*
PHI
PIT
CBJ
NJD

As mentioned, only confident in the top 2 in the Metro - the next 4 or 5 teams after the top 2 are pretty interchangeable IMO (on paper).

Will do the West later (I'm sure everyone is waiting with bated breath).

I believe isles take a step back  
Diversify yo bonds : 10/7/2021 3:45 pm : link
Just law of averages, the odds are astronomical that they reach conf finals 3 years in a row. Played a lot of hockey last 14 months. Hard to envision this roster staying injury free for 82.

Their window is this year and next before they have to re shuffle and pay Barzal big $$.
Regardless I have enjoyed this group immensely and am soaking up the current era.
I picked Rangers to make playoffs last year...  
Diversify yo bonds : 10/7/2021 3:48 pm : link
I agree that this season they will jump the Caps and/or Pens.

So much top end talent, I think they will rise over the 82 games under Gallant.

Question for Rangers fans, is there anyone who would prefer Eichel to Mika? I've yet to encounter that sentiment
RE: RE: RE: Bold prediction (?)  
BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15402255 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 15402157 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 15402028 JayBinQueens said:


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Devils finish ahead of the Rangers



Do you expect the Rangers to disappoint and miss the playoffs or do you think the Devils will just be really good?


A little bit of a and a little bit of b.

I think the Devils will be the most surprising team this year.


Fair. I wouldn't be shocked at the Devils doing well. Hughes' development far outpaced his point production, IMO.
RE: I picked Rangers to make playoffs last year...  
BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15402382 Diversify yo bonds said:
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I agree that this season they will jump the Caps and/or Pens.

So much top end talent, I think they will rise over the 82 games under Gallant.

Question for Rangers fans, is there anyone who would prefer Eichel to Mika? I've yet to encounter that sentiment


Eichel is so much better than Mika and much younger. My issue is the cost to acquire Eichel and what you do with Mika. Can you trade Mika to VGK and send those assets to Buffalo? I think giving Mika the deal he deserves (7/8 years, $9mm+) would be a disaster for NYR.
I think Mika  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 6:29 pm : link
and Eichel is really close. But (if healthy) I give Eichel an edge for youth and being a creator.

What I mean is it took Panarin before Mika became a PPG player.

Eichel was producing at a PPG pace with anchors like Jimmy Vesey and Kyle Okposo or the corpse of Jeff Skinner, or decent but not great players like Sam Reinhart and Victor Olofsson.

In other words, Eichel is the guy driving the offense, not the beneficiary of another players skill like Mika when Panarin was added. And it's not a knock on Mika, he's a great player, but it's my opinion.
Western Conference  
pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 6:35 pm : link
Pacific:
LVG*
EDM*
VAN*
CAL
SJS
ANA
LAK
SEA

Central:
COL*
DAL*
MIN*
STL*
CHI*
NSH
WIN
ARI

man, the west sucks, top 2 or 3 teams and the rest is a morass of mediocrity.

I can see a CHI revival with Jones (both Jones brothers) and MAF if MAF has anything at all left in the tank. Plus they get Toews back and hopefully Kirby Dach.

Dark horse in the west would be the Blackhawks.
If Eichel was healthy, it would be Eichel over Mika  
Anakim : 10/7/2021 7:15 pm : link
But that's not the case obviously, so I'd rather have Mika
I think Mika sort of sucks defensively while  
BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2021 7:49 pm : link
Eichel is pretty good.
RE: I believe isles take a step back  
Eric on Li : 10/7/2021 10:08 pm : link
In comment 15402379 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Just law of averages, the odds are astronomical that they reach conf finals 3 years in a row. Played a lot of hockey last 14 months. Hard to envision this roster staying injury free for 82.

Their window is this year and next before they have to re shuffle and pay Barzal big $$.
Regardless I have enjoyed this group immensely and am soaking up the current era.


we'll see it's certainly possible but Trotz seems to know how to keep gas in the tank during the regular season. The NYI regular seasons the last 3 years were almost identical despite different talent levels - 1 month where they don't lose, 1 month where they almost never win, and in between they get enough points to keep pace. The names change but the results have been consistent - close to the top of the league in GA, 1 or 2 guys get Vez noms, mediocre to bad PP.

They get Lee back, add Chara/Parise, and seem to have a lot more quality extra players this year (Panik, Gustafsson, Bellows). Tampa lost a lot of depth so I have to think they sense that this is their chance.
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pjcas18 : 10/8/2021 7:35 am : link
IIHF
@IIHFHockey
· 33m
Things are shaping up for @SwissIceHockey, who have confirmed that @rjosi90, Timo Meier and @nicohischier will join the team at @Beijing2022

That is Hischier, Meier, and Josi

Canada also announced:

Team CANADA
Sidney CROSBY
Connor MCDAVID
Alex PIETRANGELO

And

Team LATVIA
Rudolfs BALCERS
Zemgus GIRGENSONS
Kristians RUBINS
Anakim's  
pjcas18 : 10/8/2021 8:29 am : link
dream likely ends today....

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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3m
Hearing today is a good day to be a Florida Panther — an extension for Aleksander Barkov is nearing.
Last nights Devils vs Islanders game was canceled  
Jay on the Island : 10/8/2021 9:56 am : link
due to a power shortage. That's the final preseason game for the Devils and it's very unfortunate for several players on the roster bubble who didn't have one final chance to earn a roster spot. Everyone is expecting Mercer and Holtz to make the team but now we wait to see if they decide to give them some time in Utica.
RE: Jay I really think the Devs should look to move on from Subban  
Jay on the Island : 10/8/2021 10:01 am : link
In comment 15401924 Stu11 said:
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Sooner rather than later. I'd much rather that spot on the 3rd pairing go to Bahl or Walsh or Sieganthaler.

I am a big fan of Walsh and he flashed impressive offensive skills this preseason but he does need some more development time in the AHL. Hopefully the Devils can move Subban at the deadline opening up a spot for Walsh who could be ready midseason. The Siegenthaler Subban line has looked good in the preseason and they will be the 3rd pairing to start the season.
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pjcas18 : 10/8/2021 10:32 am : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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13m
Hearing Barkov extension comes in at 8x$10M, with majority coming in signing bonuses. Panthers step up and keep their captain.
I believe the Rangers have two moves left to go  
Anakim : 10/8/2021 11:33 am : link
I think Barron gets sent down to Hartford and Hajek gets traded/waived. Tinordi becomes the 7th D. Dryden Hunt becomes the 13th F. Gauthier plays until Reaves is healthy.
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pjcas18 : 10/8/2021 12:00 pm : link
I'm looking forward to this season too  
arniefez : 10/8/2021 2:11 pm : link
I expect the Rangers to be a better team and challenge for a wild card spot. I'm hoping Fox can maintain his level and Kakko and Lafreniere have breakout seasons in the top 6.

Unlike most Ranger fans I'm happy with the off season and glad they're trying to become a more physical team and like the coaching change. But IMO they're not competing for anything more than a spot in the playoffs until the improve their centers. I'd try Goodrow or Barron as the third line center and put Chytil on RW. He's not a center but he's good.

I watched very little of the pre season but what I saw from Jones and Schneider intrigues me a lot. Have the Rangers ever had a better suited pair developing in the minors than those two? I hope they keep them together as a pair in NY before long.

If I was GM for a day I'm not signing Mika for 7/8+ years when he's 29 years old. If he walks he walks. That opens money for a free agent or a trade. Anyone want a do over on the Kreider contract? I do and this is the same thing if not worse. I know I said they have to improve their centers and I'm saying let him walk but it's hard cap league and hard choices have to be made. If the 2nd line plays as well as I expect I'd try to resign Strome at my price to keep it together.

Fox is going to break the bank next year, Kakko and Lafreniere are going to need to be paid too soon. Drury is going to have to figure out who to keep who walks and who to trade from the prospect pool. But I think they are going in the right direction. We'll see in 82 games.
Can’t wait for the puck to drop!  
trueblueinpw : 10/8/2021 4:43 pm : link
Hoping to see the Kraken out west this year when I’m in Seattle. Wonder how the renovation of Climate Pledge Arena at Seattle Center will look? Seattle’s a great town! I hope the NHL finds success there.

Might also take in a game at the Isles new USB FishStick Arena. I’ve already been hearing about what a disappointing dump that place is so the lowlife Fishsticks fans should feel right at home. That will be a really interesting scene with all the degenerate gamblers from the horse track mingling with the Isles addlepated fan base. Definitely set the Belmont gene pool back a few generations. Anyway, I’m sure there will be plenty of seats available late in the season when the Isles are in the basement.

LGR!
RE: Can’t wait for the puck to drop!  
JayBinQueens : 10/8/2021 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15403361 trueblueinpw said:
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Might also take in a game at the Isles new USB FishStick Arena. I’ve already been hearing about what a disappointing dump that place is so the lowlife Fishsticks fans should feel right at home. That will be a really interesting scene with all the degenerate gamblers from the horse track mingling with the Isles addlepated fan base. Definitely set the Belmont gene pool back a few generations. Anyway, I’m sure there will be plenty of seats available late in the season when the Isles are in the basement.

LGR!


From all reports the stadium looks like it will be beautiful. Have you seen anything to the contrary, or are you just talking out of your ass?
RE: RE: Can’t wait for the puck to drop!  
trueblueinpw : 10/8/2021 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15403384 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 15403361 trueblueinpw said:


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Might also take in a game at the Isles new USB FishStick Arena. I’ve already been hearing about what a disappointing dump that place is so the lowlife Fishsticks fans should feel right at home. That will be a really interesting scene with all the degenerate gamblers from the horse track mingling with the Isles addlepated fan base. Definitely set the Belmont gene pool back a few generations. Anyway, I’m sure there will be plenty of seats available late in the season when the Isles are in the basement.

LGR!



From all reports the stadium looks like it will be beautiful. Have you seen anything to the contrary, or are you just talking out of your ass?


You can always assume I’m talking out of my ass. I’m a Rangers fan. I’m sure the new Gortons ice palace will be just fine.
Thanks for this pj  
ColHowPepper : 10/9/2021 6:05 pm : link
Until further notice and a change in results (not foreseeable based on pre-season), Isles remain kingpins in Metro. Caps's free gift to the Fishsticks reigns supreme and Trott knows what to do with his highly and broadly skilled team. It was TBL's toughest out. Yeah, Atlantic are tough through the first three or four (FL).

I'm mixed on NYR offseason. Watched 7 periods or so of pre-season (rotated many Hartford-bound with the NHL-bound), and Gallant + grit will make a difference. I'm just not sure how much.

And, yes, the biggest issue remains down the middle:
- not enough creativity or defense at C,
- team still seems weighted toward and on the wings, and thus predictable, defendable
- have said for nearly two seasons Chytil is more suited to a winger, needs to be much, much better in finishing
- pj's analysis of Eichel vs Mika is not off (but Panarin had Strome as his C, not Mika?) in terms of creativity/making the players on your line better
- give me Hertl.

Strome, Chytil and Rooney as your C2, C3 and C4 aren't going to scare anyone. It's a weakness. But adding Eichel now and losing Mika in '22 isn't going to improve that, imo.

I think it's more than Xs and Os on Mika/Eichel. Yes, the latter is younger, but his neck (fragile, repaired vertebrae, how resilient?) + his contract--5 more very expensive years? Is a new contract for Mika, at 29, that much worse? I don't buy the Kreider comp.

But to me it's more nuanced than that: having sent Buch packing, is Drury really going to send a 2nd forward who has been so central to the Rangers' attack and glue packing? To me, that's too much of a culture shock, for a young club trying to establish its identity. More of a gut punch. For all the NA grit added, the Euros on this team are a core part of that identity, creativity in the offensive end.

Lundkvist, Schneider, Robertson (latter two already Hartford bound?), Fox/Lindgren, KAM/JT and Lundkivst/Nemeth, and more, a lot to grow. KAM as good as he was as a rookie has to eliminate a lot of mistakes/giveaways. Think Trouba's absence for the last ~20 games was underappreciated, even if, yes, there are not a few here who think he's overpaid and undertalented. He, Kreider, and Fox lead contenders for the Captain's jersey.

Agree with concerns about Igor's durability. He's got to be the midget among NHL netminders, in an era of behemoths. Can always brink Henrik off the Ass't GK coach bench?? (jk)

Will take GG time to re-make the play of this team in his own image, no Miracle on Ice in the short term: pre-season Rangers looked a lot like last season's version.
I would make  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2021 6:12 pm : link
Kravtsov a C on the NYR.

He doesn't lack offensive creativity at all, just not sure about his D/face offs, but he seems like a player who could develop if they get him the right coaching and mentor-ship.
Showing what a smarty pants I am:  
ColHowPepper : 10/10/2021 11:29 am : link
Chytil scored a hat trick last night in Bridgeport against the Islanders, his 3rd goal in OT giving NYR a 5-4 win. So much for not finishing.

I couldn't watch it, no NHL Network, but apparently KK looked really good, Rangers played w/o Zib, Panarin and Kreider, yet 5 goals vs Isles, who according to some were going with pretty much their starters (no way for me to verify), who were very chippy (same). Trouba on ice for all 4 Isles' scores. Georgiev in net but apparently played solid (same).

If the Rangers can get that kind of production minus half of their top 6, whoa!

pj, I like the idea of Vitaly at C, but he needs to grow his body bigger and stronger and become more tenacious in his open ice checking game. imo, he's not so lacking along the boards.

However slowly or quickly the Rangers become more cohesive under GG, it will be interesting to assess DQ, albeit some of the 'kids' are a year older.
Mika extended  
ColHowPepper : 10/10/2021 1:44 pm : link
https://twitter.com/RickCarpiniello/status/1447224215753592838
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pjcas18 : 10/10/2021 2:06 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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11m
NJ signs Jim Vesey: 1 year, $800K
I thought he was already signed  
pjcas18 : 10/10/2021 6:07 pm : link
what was it a PTO?

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Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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Breaking News: The #Isles have signed Zdeno Chara to a 1 year, $1.5M contract.
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pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 9:31 am : link
Brian Compton
@BComptonNHL
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2m
Jon Cooper signs three-year extension with #TBLightning through 2024-25. #NHL
538 hockey predictions  
pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 10:11 am : link
not far off from mine other than the Pens who I think they are grossly overrating (linked below).

COL, TBL, and LVG all equal at 12% to win the cup

in order of pts (top 16):

COL
TBL
LVG
BOS
CAR
NYI
PIT
FLA
WAS
MIN
TOR
EDM
NSH
WIN
NYR
STL

some of the west teams after this top 16 have better playoffs odds because the east is better
link - ( New Window )
I'm sure Gallant knows  
pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 12:13 pm : link
more than me, and it's a small thing, but I really don't like teams with no captain.

New York Rangers
@NYRangers
OFFICIAL: The six alternate captains for #NYR will be Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider, Mika Zibanejad, Jacob Trouba, Ryan Strome and Barclay Goodrow.
11:15 AM · Oct 11, 2021·Twitter Web App
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pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 1:59 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Seattle Kraken announce Mark Giordano as the first captain in franchise history. #SeaKraken
RE: I'm sure Gallant knows  
BrettNYG10 : 10/11/2021 2:00 pm : link
In comment 15408504 pjcas18 said:
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more than me, and it's a small thing, but I really don't like teams with no captain.

New York Rangers
@NYRangers
OFFICIAL: The six alternate captains for #NYR will be Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider, Mika Zibanejad, Jacob Trouba, Ryan Strome and Barclay Goodrow.
11:15 AM · Oct 11, 2021·Twitter Web App


I don't either. Also, no Adam Fox?
PJ - what's sentiment in Boston about the goaltending?  
BillKo : 10/11/2021 2:03 pm : link
Kid from Buffalo played very uninspired in the preseason (it's preseason) and Swayman (who I like) played just like he ended 2021...looks really good.

Hope Swayman doesn't turn into another Andrew Raycroft LOL

RE: PJ - what's sentiment in Boston about the goaltending?  
pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15408889 BillKo said:
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Kid from Buffalo played very uninspired in the preseason (it's preseason) and Swayman (who I like) played just like he ended 2021...looks really good.

Hope Swayman doesn't turn into another Andrew Raycroft LOL


Most of the people I talk to are very bullish on Swayman and hope/expect he will be lead goalie and not a time share/tandem
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pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 2:53 pm : link
John Hoven | The Mayor
@mayorNHL
· 4m
Landed back in LA...

-- Lias Andersson missing from practice

-- Maatta in a black jersey (not red)

-- Kaliyev up with Vilardi

-- Wagner and Strand both cleared waivers

-- More soon
Devil's sent Holtz to the AHL  
Stu11 : 10/11/2021 5:18 pm : link
I think he played well enough to make the team but they want him getting top 6 and PP time down there being as he's only 19. I'm mixed on it. While I agree with Ruff's premise, the fact is the AHL is not a great developmental league for top prospects and frankly if he out played other players in camp he should be on the roster to start for at least a little bit to see if he can handle the speed of regular season NHL.
RE: I'm sure Gallant knows  
BillKo : 10/11/2021 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15408504 pjcas18 said:
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more than me, and it's a small thing, but I really don't like teams with no captain.

New York Rangers
@NYRangers
OFFICIAL: The six alternate captains for #NYR will be Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider, Mika Zibanejad, Jacob Trouba, Ryan Strome and Barclay Goodrow.
11:15 AM · Oct 11, 2021·Twitter Web App


It's important.

Fox doesn't get an A?
I don't necessarily have a problem with it  
Anakim : 10/11/2021 5:25 pm : link
The next Rangers C will be either Lafreniere or Fox. No need for a place-holder.
I'd like to hear a reporter ask Gallant  
pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 5:48 pm : link
about it. I'm sure he has a good explanation.

What do these teams have in common?

The six teams without a captain are the Arizona Coyotes, Buffalo Sabres, Calgary Flames, Columbus Blue Jackets, New York Rangers, and Ottawa Senators

they're all shitty in case you can't guess with the exception of the NYR IMO. CAL not putrid, and could make the playoffs with some luck, and I expect Tkachuk to be their captain if he's re-signed. Unlike the NYR, CAL does not have veterans like Mika, Trouba, Panarin, and Kreider signed long term.

The Rangers just signed Mika to an 8 year extension, he'll be a NYR for 14 years or so when it ends (if he plays it out). He should be the captain now. You can always adjust.


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pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 9:24 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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#Isles signed Michael Dal Colle to one-year, one-way contract ($750K) per @CapFriendly
Goodrow gets an A?  
Greg from LI : 10/11/2021 9:37 pm : link
Ummm...sure, ok
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pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 9:53 am : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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11m
Working on exact terms, but hearing Montreal and Nick Suzuki are closing in on a long-term extension. Good way to start the season.
RE: I'd like to hear a reporter ask Gallant  
Anakim : 10/12/2021 10:13 am : link
In comment 15409315 pjcas18 said:
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He should be the captain now. You can always adjust.



IDK, I think it'd be pretty awkward to strip ZIbanejad of the C just to put it on Laf or Fox.
Pumped for tonight's action especially the late one  
Stu11 : 10/12/2021 10:20 am : link
Vegas is always a great venue and gotta catch the first Kracken action. The early one lacks luster do to no Crosby, Malkin or Guentzel.
RE: RE: I'd like to hear a reporter ask Gallant  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15410371 Anakim said:
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In comment 15409315 pjcas18 said:


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He should be the captain now. You can always adjust.





IDK, I think it'd be pretty awkward to strip ZIbanejad of the C just to put it on Laf or Fox.


it depends how they determine captain.

Sharks reassigned captain from Thornton to Pavelski - Thornton took the A after that.

And even before that went from Marleau to Rob Blake.

Marleau wore an A for almost a decade after that.

EDM "took" captain away from Ference before making McDavid captain.

I don't think it's what you think.
Anyone do fantasy hockey? Had a draft Sunday  
Stu11 : 10/12/2021 10:21 am : link
And did my first hockey auction ever last night it was fun. $200 cap and Connor Mac went for 82!
RE: Anyone do fantasy hockey? Had a draft Sunday  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 10:28 am : link
In comment 15410385 Stu11 said:
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And did my first hockey auction ever last night it was fun. $200 cap and Connor Mac went for 82!


I'm in a league with my hockey teammates. not auction, it's snake draft. I always think my team is awesome but usually finish middle of the pack.

C: Point
C: Suzuki
LW: DeBrincat
LW: Hyman
RW: Pastrnak
RW: Laine
D: Carlson
D: McAvoy
Util: Heiskanen
Util: Toews
Bench: Farabee
Bench: Luc-Dubois
IR: Hoffman
IR+ Drouin

G: Sorokin
G: Samsonov
G: Knight

without seeing other teams I know it's hard to evaluate, but I feel like that team should be good in 6x4 scoring (6 player categories and 4 goalie categories)
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pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 10:31 am : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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35m
Suzuki: 8x$7.875
Rangers are gooning it up for opening night  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 10:49 am : link
Tinordi stays with the big club while Kravtsov goes to Hartford. I'm not going to get upset about it yet. I'm hoping it's just some stupid "let's send a message to Tom Wilson" crap and Kravtsov comes back up after the game.

It had better be.
Reaves is out  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 11:35 am : link
right? I'd call off the whole goon squad game and just beat WAS on the ice.

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pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 11:35 am : link
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
· 1h
The Canadiens have agreed to terms on an eight-year, $63 million contract extension (2022-22 to 2029-30) with forward Nick Suzuki.

#GoHabsGo
https://nhl.com/canadiens/news
Wow - not a goon squad move  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 11:36 am : link


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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9m
Hearing NYR have given Vitali Kravtsov permission to contact other clubs in seek of a trade. Kravtsov did not make the Opening Day roster.
Looks like Kravtsov wants out of NYR and is seeking a trade  
Metnut : 10/12/2021 11:36 am : link
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Whoa,  
Mad Mike : 10/12/2021 11:38 am : link
I assumed Krav being sent down was just temporary so they had some time to try and trade Hajek instead of putting him through waivers. Disappointing that things have gotten so sour.
It looks like this allure of the Garden and the Rangers is....  
Drewcon40 : 10/12/2021 11:44 am : link
...a myth. The Lias Anderson situation and now seemingly Kravtsov? I thought he was going to be the first call up.....Giants and Rangers - 2 flagship franchises, may no longer be appealing to a new generation of players.
that's just swell  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 11:47 am : link
So far, Chris Drury has been terrible
I mean, Lias Anderson has been terrible in the NHL  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 11:52 am : link
But I get your point
I was wrong on Lias  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 11:54 am : link
I thought he'd be good, but he's flaking out in LA too.

it's why hockey is harder than football at drafting. these kids are 17/18 when you draft them. Hard to project intangibles (or even tangibles in some cases) and often it's the small things that make the difference between AHL/NHL.
I just don't get what the hell their plan is  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 11:57 am : link
They gave Buchnevich away for some hump of a grinder supposedly so there would be more opportunity for guys like Kravtsov, and now they're driving Kravtsov away. Beautiful, just beautiful. Can't wait to see the garbage they take in return on this one.
Is Emerson Etem still active?  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 11:57 am : link
Maybe they could trade for that stiff again.
RE: I just don't get what the hell their plan is  
BrettNYG10 : 10/12/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15410601 Greg from LI said:
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They gave Buchnevich away for some hump of a grinder supposedly so there would be more opportunity for guys like Kravtsov, and now they're driving Kravtsov away. Beautiful, just beautiful. Can't wait to see the garbage they take in return on this one.


Glad we traded Buchnevich to make room for Kravtsov.
Also glad they chose sending Kravtsov down  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 12:11 pm : link
Rather than running the risk of losing Libor Hajek on waivers. Dodged a bullet there!
CBJ names a captain  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 1:02 pm : link
(Boone Jenner)

that leaves ARI, CAL, BUF, OTT, and NYR with no captain.

Not a group I'd like to be part of and it's not just a formality IMO. - also though not making it into a huge issue, but I'd have a captain.


The six teams without a captain are the Arizona Coyotes, Buffalo Sabres, Calgary Flames, Columbus Blue Jackets, New York Rangers, and Ottawa Senators
RE: RE: Anyone do fantasy hockey? Had a draft Sunday  
Stu11 : 10/12/2021 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15410406 pjcas18 said:
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And did my first hockey auction ever last night it was fun. $200 cap and Connor Mac went for 82!



I'm in a league with my hockey teammates. not auction, it's snake draft. I always think my team is awesome but usually finish middle of the pack.

C: Point
C: Suzuki
LW: DeBrincat
LW: Hyman
RW: Pastrnak
RW: Laine
D: Carlson
D: McAvoy
Util: Heiskanen
Util: Toews
Bench: Farabee
Bench: Luc-Dubois
IR: Hoffman
IR+ Drouin

G: Sorokin
G: Samsonov
G: Knight

without seeing other teams I know it's hard to evaluate, but I feel like that team should be good in 6x4 scoring (6 player categories and 4 goalie categories)

Yeah that's a solid team. Pasta could have a huge year, Point is solid and Carlson is always underated. He goes behind Fox, Makar but him and Hamilton are about as reliable as it gets from the back line. I like your goaltending too.nKnight is a real breakout candidate, anyone who plays net for the Isles puts up great #'s and Varlomov seems to have a mysterious injury. You can't go wrong with Samsonov I always like solid if not spectacular goalies on good teams. I'm like you PJ I always like my team out of the draft, but always seem to struggle. It's by far my worst fantasy sport.
Fight night back on tomorrow  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 1:23 pm : link
Reaves is ready to go.

per Mercogliano twitter
Seravalli  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 2:09 pm : link
suggests maybe a Kravtsov for Strome trade could be good for both teams
this guy gets it  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 2:31 pm : link
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HockeyStatMiner
@HockeyStatMiner
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People trying to pin this on Kravtsov. When you sign a KHL phenom to an entry-level contract *that includes a European Reassignment Clause* and then play games on Year 3 of that ELC? These are the prizes you win.

What made Shesterkin’s AHL stint so gracious was it *wasn’t* SOP.


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HockeyStatMiner
@HockeyStatMiner
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10m
His AHL salary is ~$400/day

His NHL salary is between $4600 - $9200 per day (depending on performance bonuses)

Factor in whatever salary he could be getting in the KHL, but chose not to

You can call him a crybaby but all this to *maybe* preserve Libor Hajek? Can you blame him?

Agree pj  
PwndPapi : 10/12/2021 2:55 pm : link
It's a legitimate gripe and Kravy has shown to be a playmaker with improving 2-way play. Even if he wasn't pegged to play top-6 minutes yet, we rather play Barron, Blais? I don't get what Drury is doing here.
Exactly  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 3:03 pm : link
The Rangers top 6 is tough to crack, which is a good thing IMO, and it shouldn't mean you are beholden to a traditional bottom 6.

Kravtsov was the #9 overall pick in the draft and is in year 3 of his ELC.

The Rangers should be putting him either in a position to succeed or pumping up his value to trade him.

Neither of those is accomplished in the AHL.

This blurb from EP I think nails Kravtsov and it's probably what drives coaches crazy. Sort of Malkin syndrome (though not comparing the two really) where the player has so much skill but seems to only give max effort when they want to.

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A big, skilled winger that can play up and down the lineup and provide scoring in a number of roles. He brings grit and physical size, but could be more assertive in throwing his weight around more. Displays excellent speed on the rush and in zone entry, but could backcheck quicker. Plays well in his own end and takes away lanes. Very good hands and awareness. Kravtsov has the potential to develop into a staple top six forward that can produce at the next level. [EP]
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pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 3:21 pm : link
Nick Kypreos
@RealKyper
·
5h
It’s sounds like the @NHL
is leaning towards suspending @SanJoseSharks
Kane under supplementary discipline ( 18- 18A of the CBA. After serving his set amount of games it’s likely he’ll be clear to resume his career. @FAN590
RE: .  
Stu11 : 10/12/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15411037 pjcas18 said:
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Nick Kypreos
@RealKyper
·
5h
It’s sounds like the @NHL
is leaning towards suspending @SanJoseSharks
Kane under supplementary discipline ( 18- 18A of the CBA. After serving his set amount of games it’s likely he’ll be clear to resume his career. @FAN590

I'm all for due process and divoces get messy so be careful to listen to one side's accusations. However there seems to be a whole lot of smoke around Kane for there to be no fire at all.
I think the gambling  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 5:01 pm : link
stuff is most concerning, his estranged wife made those allegations and a dissolving marriage is rife for misrepresentations, so who knows.
RE: I think the gambling  
Stu11 : 10/12/2021 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15411207 pjcas18 said:
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stuff is most concerning, his estranged wife made those allegations and a dissolving marriage is rife for misrepresentations, so who knows.

yep definately the gambling is the big problem. If you saw his interview with Linda Cohn, it was pretty much a non-denial denial. Sounded very Pete Rose-ish. "Yes I have a big gambling problem but I never ever bet on hockey!"
isnt he also in trouble  
KDubbs : 10/12/2021 5:14 pm : link
for a fake vaccination card?
RE: isnt he also in trouble  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 5:23 pm : link
In comment 15411231 KDubbs said:
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for a fake vaccination card?


Yes, not sure what the league would do about that though, it's almost like using a fake ID.
RE: RE: isnt he also in trouble  
KDubbs : 10/12/2021 5:26 pm : link
In comment 15411249 pjcas18 said:
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for a fake vaccination card?



Yes, not sure what the league would do about that though, it's almost like using a fake ID.


oh ok. just hard to keep straight what he is in trouble for at any time
RE: RE: RE: isnt he also in trouble  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 5:39 pm : link
In comment 15411252 KDubbs said:
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for a fake vaccination card?



Yes, not sure what the league would do about that though, it's almost like using a fake ID.



oh ok. just hard to keep straight what he is in trouble for at any time


Hey, for all I know a fake vaccine card gets him the NHL death penalty, who knows, seems minor to me in terms of NHL discipline, but nothing would surprise me.
RE: this guy gets it  
BrettNYG10 : 10/12/2021 6:05 pm : link
In comment 15410947 pjcas18 said:
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HockeyStatMiner
@HockeyStatMiner
·
20m
People trying to pin this on Kravtsov. When you sign a KHL phenom to an entry-level contract *that includes a European Reassignment Clause* and then play games on Year 3 of that ELC? These are the prizes you win.

What made Shesterkin’s AHL stint so gracious was it *wasn’t* SOP.





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HockeyStatMiner
@HockeyStatMiner
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10m
His AHL salary is ~$400/day

His NHL salary is between $4600 - $9200 per day (depending on performance bonuses)

Factor in whatever salary he could be getting in the KHL, but chose not to

You can call him a crybaby but all this to *maybe* preserve Libor Hajek? Can you blame him?




100%, I don't blame him. This is the second high draft pick to ask out. It's on NYR.
We criticize ESPN a lot but bringing back the iconic  
dpinzow : 10/12/2021 7:05 pm : link
National Hockey Night theme is a big plus. Wish they brought back Gary Thorne and Bill Clement too
RE: We criticize ESPN a lot but bringing back the iconic  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15411337 dpinzow said:
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National Hockey Night theme is a big plus. Wish they brought back Gary Thorne and Bill Clement too


Yeah they were a great team
First goal  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 8:42 pm : link
of the season belongs to Danton Heinen off the sloppy goalie play from Vasilevskiy. 1 - 0 Pens
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2021 9:00 pm : link
Never seem so much NHL content on ESPN. I'm assuming they bought their rights?
.  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2021 9:44 pm : link
Sportsnet Stats
@SNstats
· 4h
Heaviest Opening Night NHL rosters

Rangers 203.4 pounds
Ducks 203.1
Flames 202.7
Islanders 202.6
Golden Knights 202.0
RE: We criticize ESPN a lot but bringing back the iconic  
Stu11 : 10/13/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15411337 dpinzow said:
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National Hockey Night theme is a big plus. Wish they brought back Gary Thorne and Bill Clement too

What did you guys think about the feature they did at the opening on the guy that composed the ESPN hockey theme? Overall I liked it if you can get past the douche chills of Justin Bieber narrating it. A few things though:
1. A little long. 6 minutes for an opening? Come on
2. The line about that theme not being heard on ESPN since hockey left the network is total BS. Every time they've done a hockey segment the past 15 or 20 years they've played it.
RE: Devil's sent Holtz to the AHL  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2021 10:57 am : link
In comment 15409265 Stu11 said:
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I think he played well enough to make the team but they want him getting top 6 and PP time down there being as he's only 19. I'm mixed on it. While I agree with Ruff's premise, the fact is the AHL is not a great developmental league for top prospects and frankly if he out played other players in camp he should be on the roster to start for at least a little bit to see if he can handle the speed of regular season NHL.

I was very disappointed about this at first because he looked great with Hughes and Sharangovich but the kid is only 19 and the Devils have rushed too many young players up too soon lately. It's probably better to let him spend time in Utica on the top line for more seasoning. It's no surprise that Mercer made the team but I just hope that they use him at center and move Zacha back to wing where he thrived.
RE: RE: We criticize ESPN a lot but bringing back the iconic  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2021 11:10 am : link
In comment 15411380 Greg from LI said:
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National Hockey Night theme is a big plus. Wish they brought back Gary Thorne and Bill Clement too



Yeah they were a great team

It would be even better if they could bring Doc Emrick out of retirement.
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pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 11:36 am : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
1h
Hearing NASH gets a key piece of business done. Mattias Ekholm re-signing at 4 years, $6.25M AAV (not $6.35)
RE: RE: Devil's sent Holtz to the AHL  
Stu11 : 10/13/2021 11:38 am : link
In comment 15411852 Jay on the Island said:
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I think he played well enough to make the team but they want him getting top 6 and PP time down there being as he's only 19. I'm mixed on it. While I agree with Ruff's premise, the fact is the AHL is not a great developmental league for top prospects and frankly if he out played other players in camp he should be on the roster to start for at least a little bit to see if he can handle the speed of regular season NHL.


I was very disappointed about this at first because he looked great with Hughes and Sharangovich but the kid is only 19 and the Devils have rushed too many young players up too soon lately. It's probably better to let him spend time in Utica on the top line for more seasoning. It's no surprise that Mercer made the team but I just hope that they use him at center and move Zacha back to wing where he thrived.

I know Ruff intimated on multiple occasions in camp that Zacha was a C for now, but that he'd love for other options. I agree hopefully he puts Mercer there. Zacha played the best hockey of his career at wing last season.
RE: RE: RE: Devil's sent Holtz to the AHL  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15411947 Stu11 said:
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I know Ruff intimated on multiple occasions in camp that Zacha was a C for now, but that he'd love for other options. I agree hopefully he puts Mercer there. Zacha played the best hockey of his career at wing last season.

I understood it at the beginning of camp but with Mercer performing as I expected I think that he should be the 3rd line center with McLeod as the 4th. This is how I arrange the lines.
Tatar Hughes Sharangovich
Zacha Hischier Bratt
Kuokkanen Mercer Johnsson
Wood McLeod Vesey

Smith Hamilton
Graves Severson
Siegenthaler Subban
I agree with your lines Jay  
Stu11 : 10/13/2021 12:14 pm : link
Unfortunately the past few days they have skated with Tatar on the 3rd line and Kuokkanen skating with Hughes and Sharengovich. makes no sense to me. Kuokks is a nice player but he's not a top 6 guy and Tuna clearly is.
RE: I agree with your lines Jay  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2021 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15412026 Stu11 said:
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Unfortunately the past few days they have skated with Tatar on the 3rd line and Kuokkanen skating with Hughes and Sharengovich. makes no sense to me. Kuokks is a nice player but he's not a top 6 guy and Tuna clearly is.

I agree, Kuokkanen was very good last season when he played with Hughes and Sharangovich but that was mostly a product of Hughes and Sharangovich. Kuokkanen is a 3rd line player on a playoff team. I would much rather see a better play like Tatar on the first line.
Nice to see  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 8:30 pm : link
Drouin get the goal in his return.
Two Leafs  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 9:50 pm : link
rough up Gallagher and Josh Anderson winds up with the MTL penalty.

No idea how the refs saw that.

MTL no offense, no pressure, soft in their own end

now short-handed the rest of the game

I expect a lot of games like this
The Avs just blitzing the Hawks the first 10 minutes  
Stu11 : 10/13/2021 10:43 pm : link
3 goals and 14 shots. Rough Hawks debut for MAF.
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pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 10:45 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
8m
Hearing the New York Islanders and Ryan Pulock have agreed to an 8 year extension. Just under $50 million total.
Isles have Pelech and Pulock  
Metnut : 10/13/2021 10:49 pm : link
locked up forever for $12M total annually. One of the top parings in the league and these kids are just entering their primes. Great job Lou.
RE: The Avs just blitzing the Hawks the first 10 minutes  
Scooter185 : 10/13/2021 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15412917 Stu11 said:
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3 goals and 14 shots. Rough Hawks debut for MAF.


If this keeps up MAF may retire after the game
Mason McTavish (ANA)  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 10:54 pm : link
#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.

RE: Mason McTavish (ANA)  
Metnut : 10/14/2021 8:26 am : link
In comment 15412925 pjcas18 said:
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#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.


Is he related to the guy who never wore a helmet back in the day?
RE: RE: Mason McTavish (ANA)  
Anakim : 10/14/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15413024 Metnut said:
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#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.




Is he related to the guy who never wore a helmet back in the day?


Craig, and no
RE: RE: Mason McTavish (ANA)  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 8:29 am : link
In comment 15413024 Metnut said:
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In comment 15412925 pjcas18 said:


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#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.




Is he related to the guy who never wore a helmet back in the day?


no, but I did check that too, but the other guy was spelled differently (Craig MacTavish)

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pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 11:36 am : link
Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
· 4m
Sources say #Sens are closing in on a seven year deal with winger Brady Tkachuk
.  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 11:39 am : link
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
23s
Brady Tkachuk #Sens: 7 years, $57.5 million. ($8.214m AAV)
I hope the McAvoy contract is a painful one  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 1:51 pm : link

Spector's Hockey
@SpectorsHockey
·
7m
#ICYMI An update on Vladimir Tarasenko, the #NHLBruins could be close to re-signing Charlie McAvoy, #Blackhawks GM addresses the Dylan Strome trade speculation and more on Vitali Kravtsov in today’s #NHL rumor mill. https://spectorshockey.net/2021/10/nhl-ru
I think this might be suspension  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 4:10 pm : link
worthy for Landeskog. I get his point, if the player has the puck or is trying to play the puck, what do you expect, so it's not cut and dried, but such a dangerous play.

And Kirby Dach missed all of last year in an early season hit I believe.
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good start  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 5:43 pm : link
Man I feel for the half dozen Buffalo fans  
Mike in NY : 10/14/2021 6:07 pm : link
I have seen pre-Vegas expansion teams with better rosters
that was quick  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 6:09 pm : link
NHL Player Safety
@NHLPlayerSafety
·
10m
Colorado’s Gabriel Landeskog has been suspended for two games for Boarding Chicago’s Kirby Dach.
I think the BUF  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 6:54 pm : link
lineup is exponentially better than this one:

If MTL  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 7:50 pm : link
keeps playing like this defensively it doesn't matter if their roster is better than BUF or ARI they will be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes (which wouldn't be a terrible thing, but obviously as we have seen lately, no guarantees)
RE: If MTL  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15413828 pjcas18 said:
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keeps playing like this defensively it doesn't matter if their roster is better than BUF or ARI they will be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes (which wouldn't be a terrible thing, but obviously as we have seen lately, no guarantees)


Now down 4 - 1 to BUF, this may be a long year for the Habs.
Dougie Hamilton  
Jay on the Island : 10/15/2021 7:49 pm : link
scored 17 seconds into his debut with the Devils.
Just got home an watched the Devs game on dvr  
Stu11 : 10/16/2021 12:15 am : link
Lots of good. Horrific to blow a 3-1 lead in the last few minutes, just can't happen. However great to have Jack get that classic to end it in OT. That's just a play he wouldn't have had the patience to finish the past 2 years. His other goal was a classic goal scorer's goal to on the spin around. Obviously as Jay pointed out great debut for Hamilton. Mercer had a solid debut too. Devs have 5 in a row at home to start the season would be really huge for a young team if they got off to a great start.
Stu  
Jay on the Island : 10/18/2021 9:57 pm : link
The Utica Comets had their first game yesterday and Alexander Holtz did not disappoint. He had two beautiful goals with Reilly Walsh picking up 3 assists. Nico Daws, by far my favorite goalie prospects in the system, was excellent with 25 saves in the 6-2 win. That's the most exciting AHL roster the Devils have had since I began following hockey.
RE: Stu  
Stu11 : 10/19/2021 7:58 am : link
In comment 15420616 Jay on the Island said:
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The Utica Comets had their first game yesterday and Alexander Holtz did not disappoint. He had two beautiful goals with Reilly Walsh picking up 3 assists. Nico Daws, by far my favorite goalie prospects in the system, was excellent with 25 saves in the 6-2 win. That's the most exciting AHL roster the Devils have had since I began following hockey.

Yeah I saw that. I don't think Holtz will be down there long. He's gonna force the Devs hand. They always struggle for goals and they'll eventually have to bring him up especially if one of the top 6 gets hurt. Daws may have a strong future in the organization.I think they are starting to sour on Blackwood with the injuries and now the vaccination situation.
Heavyweight  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 6:18 pm : link
bout yesterday between Lucic and Deslauriers

Lucic looks like a cartoon character at this point.
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It's October 19  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 8:12 pm : link
and I'm done with hockey (not really but kind of), the Habs are absolutely brutal.

I wouldn't be shocked if Ducharme doesn't make it to November.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 9:38 pm : link
a league worst 0 - 4, with 3 goals scored in those 4 games. 15 allowed.

losses to BUF and SJS that were not close at all.
Devs Beat the Kracken 4-2 Dawson Mercer gets his 1st  
Stu11 : 10/19/2021 11:46 pm : link
Unfortunately the story of the night was Jack Hughes getting hurt. Tough play along the boards, Jeremy Lauzon followed through on a hit and lifted him off his skates. Injured his shoulder falling hard. Not a dirty hit and Ruff said so in his presser, but I don't like lifting a guy off his skates in such close proximity. Especially since Lauzon lifted his own skate for leverage. Oh well Hockey is a tough game. Just hope Jack isn't out months. He was off to a flying start.
At least they have Bobrovsky at  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 8:45 am : link
a huge number for way too long

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NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
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11h
Spencer Knight became the 11th goaltender in NHL history to win at least each of his first five regular-season games to start his career.


RE: At least they have Bobrovsky at  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2021 8:56 am : link
In comment 15422335 pjcas18 said:
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a huge number for way too long



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NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
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11h
Spencer Knight became the 11th goaltender in NHL history to win at least each of his first five regular-season games to start his career.





Are they splitting time?
RE: RE: At least they have Bobrovsky at  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 8:59 am : link
In comment 15422343 BrettNYG10 said:
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a huge number for way too long



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NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
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Spencer Knight became the 11th goaltender in NHL history to win at least each of his first five regular-season games to start his career.







Are they splitting time?


for now, Knight is backing up Bob (but it's only been 3 games). Florida can win a stanley cup this year IMO

Kucherov  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 9:16 am : link
having surgery again, injured over the weekend.

again, placed on LTIR giving TBL 9.5M to play with. Eichel?

anyway, I am not convinced TBL repeats last year (don't forget I think CAR won the central, not TBL, TBL came in 3rd).

Without Kucherov and losing their 3rd line, I can see TBL struggle (hopefully)
....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2021 9:40 am : link
Thanks, and I agree on FL. I think CAR and TB are both a little weaker this year. FL has superior top-end talent to CAR.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15422404 BrettNYG10 said:
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Thanks, and I agree on FL. I think CAR and TB are both a little weaker this year. FL has superior top-end talent to CAR.


Still no clue why CAR traded Nedeljkovic. I don't hate Freddy Anderson, but Nedeljkovic was great.

I agree they regressed a little, but hey they are paying Kotkaniemi 6M for 3rd line production on a 1-year deal to screw the habs.

Still like them in the Metro.
Agreed.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2021 10:07 am : link
And I think Hamilton was a big loss.

(I also forgot CAR was back in the metro, lol)

I think the Atlantic is the superior division this year.
Yeah Florida is gonna have a great year  
Stu11 : 10/20/2021 10:13 am : link
Especially if Bob keeps playing like this. If he's on his game they probably have the best goaltending duo on the league. I think you guys are underestimating Carolina. To me they have a very 90's/2000's Devil's quality to them In that the system is the important thing. We always used to lose guys every off season but never missed a beat.
RE: Devs Beat the Kracken 4-2 Dawson Mercer gets his 1st  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2021 10:39 am : link
In comment 15422231 Stu11 said:
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Unfortunately the story of the night was Jack Hughes getting hurt. Tough play along the boards, Jeremy Lauzon followed through on a hit and lifted him off his skates. Injured his shoulder falling hard. Not a dirty hit and Ruff said so in his presser, but I don't like lifting a guy off his skates in such close proximity. Especially since Lauzon lifted his own skate for leverage. Oh well Hockey is a tough game. Just hope Jack isn't out months. He was off to a flying start.


Let's hope that it's not serious because losing Hughes is a massive blow to the Devils slim playoff chances. Everyone is wondering if Holtz will be called up to replace Hughes but I think the Devils will bring up Boqvist instead.
Hughes  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 11:10 am : link
looked like a completely different player.

Shows some players it makes sense to develop in the NHL others would never have grown like Hughes did being up against bigger, stronger players.

To use the cliche it seems like the game has slowed down for him.

Hope he's ok.

Contrast Hughes development with someone like his old friend and USNDTP linemate, Cole Caufield.

I also noticed Cole Caufield improved significantly in areas I didn't think he'd improve. I thought Cole would be *just* a sniper (which would have been fine) - Caufield's wrist shot is as good as I've seen, but I never expected his skating would improve the way it has. he is a legit burner out there now.

Caufield spent two years at Wisconsin in NCAA, Hughes spent 2 years in the NHL. Both got good outcomes (so far).
you want to add another example  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 11:22 am : link
Kirill Kaprizov, last year's Calder winner, though he was a 2nd round pick, in 2015, he spent 4 years in the KHL post draft before coming to NA and joining the Wild.

sometimes staying home as a 18-21 year old, the maturation years for some, makes sense.

He was 23 before he came over to the NHL.

Teams need to be flexible and fan bases need patience.
PJ definitely  
Stu11 : 10/20/2021 12:16 pm : link
Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.
RE: PJ definitely  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15422727 Stu11 said:
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Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.


agree. would have been cool to see if he went to Michigan (?) or wherever he committed to for NCAA how he'd be if he made his debut this year.

to clarify though, while I agree he had no business being in the NHL at 18, I had watched him play for years and his talent was clear as day, but seeing him on draft night looking like Kathryn Tappen's young son where she towered over him (in height and body lol) on the stage was a little I don't know jarring I guess. but maybe those two years in the NHL when he didn't belong there helped make him the (dominant) player we saw these first couple games.

RE: RE: PJ definitely  
Stu11 : 10/20/2021 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15422739 pjcas18 said:
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Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.



agree. would have been cool to see if he went to Michigan (?) or wherever he committed to for NCAA how he'd be if he made his debut this year.

to clarify though, while I agree he had no business being in the NHL at 18, I had watched him play for years and his talent was clear as day, but seeing him on draft night looking like Kathryn Tappen's young son where she towered over him (in height and body lol) on the stage was a little I don't know jarring I guess. but maybe those two years in the NHL when he didn't belong there helped make him the (dominant) player we saw these first couple games.

Good point. I do think Jack benefitted from being with the big team the summer after his first season when he noticably gained size and strength.
RE: PJ definitely  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15422727 Stu11 said:
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Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.

True, I'm glad that it wasn't detrimental to his development. The Devils were wise to let Luke Hughes play at Michigan for this season. They can evaluate his performance in college and decide in a year whether he is ready for the NHL.
Sounds like worst case  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2021 10:49 am : link
avoided, no timetable given (other than when he will be re-evaluated) which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse.

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#NEWS: Jack Hughes suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder and will not require surgery. He has begun physical therapy.

He will be re-evaluated next week.
RE: Sounds like worst case  
Stu11 : 10/21/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15423684 pjcas18 said:
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avoided, no timetable given (other than when he will be re-evaluated) which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse.

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#NEWS: Jack Hughes suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder and will not require surgery. He has begun physical therapy.

He will be re-evaluated next week.

Yeah not worst case scenario but don't think we'll see him before Thanksgiving.
RE: Sounds like worst case  
Jay on the Island : 10/21/2021 11:22 am : link
In comment 15423684 pjcas18 said:
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avoided, no timetable given (other than when he will be re-evaluated) which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse.

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#NEWS: Jack Hughes suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder and will not require surgery. He has begun physical therapy.

He will be re-evaluated next week.

Better than expected but still a little disappointing. I thought for sure that he broke his collarbone which would have kept him out 4-6 weeks.
Joel  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2021 7:52 pm : link
Edmunson likely out of the year to deal with personal matters (his father is sick).

MTL is in trouble. 2 top 4 D gone for the season, Price gone and they weren't a talented team before that.

They could really be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes, though the top 5 next year is absolutely loaded.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2021 9:39 pm : link
0 - 5 now. Of course Kotkaniemi scores in his return to MTL.

They scored 1 goal again, now have 4 goals in their 5 games.

They did have a goal called back that was a horrible goalie interference call IMO, but no offense at all.
Here is the goalie interference  
pjcas18 : 10/22/2021 12:12 pm : link
call, with skates outside the blue paint I have a hard time agreeing with this call.

If the goalie decides to skate up to the edge of the paint some contact with players is expected IMO.
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RE: Joel  
Jay on the Island : 10/22/2021 5:18 pm : link
In comment 15424355 pjcas18 said:
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Edmunson likely out of the year to deal with personal matters (his father is sick).

MTL is in trouble. 2 top 4 D gone for the season, Price gone and they weren't a talented team before that.

They could really be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes, though the top 5 next year is absolutely loaded.

Yea your team is looking pretty dreadful so far without those players. At least you have a real shot at Wright.
The Devils are in deep trouble as well  
Jay on the Island : 10/22/2021 5:22 pm : link
They looked very poor last night without Hughes. Ruff makes things so much worse by moving McLeod to the second line center role instead of Mercer and then after the first period moves Sharangovich to the 4th line with Gauthier and goon Geersten for some reason.

I still can't believe they hired Ruff over Gallant.
RE: RE: Joel  
pjcas18 : 10/22/2021 5:26 pm : link
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Edmunson likely out of the year to deal with personal matters (his father is sick).

MTL is in trouble. 2 top 4 D gone for the season, Price gone and they weren't a talented team before that.

They could really be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes, though the top 5 next year is absolutely loaded.


Yea your team is looking pretty dreadful so far without those players. At least you have a real shot at Wright.


I like Connor Geekie, Matthew Savoie, and Ivan Miroshnichenko too (and more) - this is a strong draft (at the top at least). Wright is off to a slow start this year which will temper some enthusiasm about his ceiling - at one point he was sort of slotted between Matthews and McDavid, but I think unless he really pours it on he will wind up around Lafreniere level.

RE: RE: RE: Joel  
Jay on the Island : 10/23/2021 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15425227 pjcas18 said:
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I like Connor Geekie, Matthew Savoie, and Ivan Miroshnichenko too (and more) - this is a strong draft (at the top at least). Wright is off to a slow start this year which will temper some enthusiasm about his ceiling - at one point he was sort of slotted between Matthews and McDavid, but I think unless he really pours it on he will wind up around Lafreniere level.

Do you think next years draft will be stronger since scouts have had more time to evaluate players as opposed to last year? I would expect to see more overage players drafted that scouts missed last year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Joel  
pjcas18 : 10/23/2021 5:52 pm : link
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I like Connor Geekie, Matthew Savoie, and Ivan Miroshnichenko too (and more) - this is a strong draft (at the top at least). Wright is off to a slow start this year which will temper some enthusiasm about his ceiling - at one point he was sort of slotted between Matthews and McDavid, but I think unless he really pours it on he will wind up around Lafreniere level.



Do you think next years draft will be stronger since scouts have had more time to evaluate players as opposed to last year? I would expect to see more overage players drafted that scouts missed last year.


next year 2022 or 2023? I think the 2022 draft is loaded.

As far as I know (and I'm not an expert) you won't see overage North Americans drafted unless you mean 19. You are no longer eligible for the draft if you will turn 20 before 12/31 of the draft year.

Euros can be drafted older - and you could see more older European players drafted I guess.



RE: The Devils are in deep trouble as well  
Stu11 : 10/23/2021 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15425225 Jay on the Island said:
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They looked very poor last night without Hughes. Ruff makes things so much worse by moving McLeod to the second line center role instead of Mercer and then after the first period moves Sharangovich to the 4th line with Gauthier and goon Geersten for some reason.

I still can't believe they hired Ruff over Gallant.

Jay I wouldn't panic just yet. It was one bad game and the Caps always kick our ass not to mention we had our 3rd string goalie in net. We'll miss Jack but hopefully he's back before too long. Ty Smith returns tonight and it sounds like your boy Dawes is getting the start in goal. Mac should be back soon. I love Sharengovich but no problem with Ruff trying to light a fire under his ass. I know it's only 3 games but he's been pretty invisible so far. With Jack out the Devs need those young guys like Bratt, Nico and Sharengovich to step up and score.
Devs down 1-0 already  
Stu11 : 10/23/2021 7:21 pm : link
Were gonna get a power play but Ruff idiotically challenged a goal that was never gonna count. Nico pushed the goalie's pad. Do now we lose our PP and our challenge for the game.
How am I always  
pjcas18 : 10/23/2021 9:24 pm : link
so wrong about PIT.

I think Mike Sullivan has to be the coach I'd pick if I'm starting a team and can pick anyone, even over Trotz.

no Crosby, no Malkin, no Letang, no stars prospects, but somehow they win.

RE: How am I always  
Stu11 : 10/23/2021 9:47 pm : link
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so wrong about PIT.

I think Mike Sullivan has to be the coach I'd pick if I'm starting a team and can pick anyone, even over Trotz.

no Crosby, no Malkin, no Letang, no stars prospects, but somehow they win.

Yeah I've learned never to count out the Caps or Pens. I think they'll win forever. Devil's beat the Sabres in OT. Zacha with a nasty writer to win it. Nico Daws was superb in net, kept the Devs in it the first 30 minutes when they were severely out played. Sabres actually look very interesting. Tons of speed. If Tokarski keeps playing well in net they will not be an easy team to face night in night out.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 10/24/2021 9:35 am : link
off the "schneid" (is that how you spell it)?

anyway, a hat trick from Matthew Perreault - I couldn't stand him his whole career because he always played well vs MTL.

not a bad 4th liner. If only the top 2 lines could score.

Gallagher? Anderson? Caufield? Toffoli?

If the Habs nuke it, I'd trade Gallagher and Toffoli first.

Bergevin said it's a long shot Weber ever plays again.

I was wrong about Joel Edmunson - he could be back this week.
RE: RE: How am I always  
Jay on the Island : 10/24/2021 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15426029 Stu11 said:
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Yeah I've learned never to count out the Caps or Pens. I think they'll win forever. Devil's beat the Sabres in OT. Zacha with a nasty writer to win it. Nico Daws was superb in net, kept the Devs in it the first 30 minutes when they were severely out played. Sabres actually look very interesting. Tons of speed. If Tokarski keeps playing well in net they will not be an easy team to face night in night out.

Now you know why I love Daws. He was excellent last night despite the team not doing him any favors in the first. He is so quick and athletic. It's a noticeable difference between him and Wedgewood. I would start Daws until Bernier or Blackwood return and send Wedgewood to Utica. Let Daws be the backup until both vets return and then let him be the guy in Utica.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Joel  
Jay on the Island : 10/24/2021 2:07 pm : link
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next year 2022 or 2023? I think the 2022 draft is loaded.

As far as I know (and I'm not an expert) you won't see overage North Americans drafted unless you mean 19. You are no longer eligible for the draft if you will turn 20 before 12/31 of the draft year.

Euros can be drafted older - and you could see more older European players drafted I guess.



I meant the 2022 draft.
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Stu11 : 10/24/2021 2:26 pm : link
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Yeah I've learned never to count out the Caps or Pens. I think they'll win forever. Devil's beat the Sabres in OT. Zacha with a nasty writer to win it. Nico Daws was superb in net, kept the Devs in it the first 30 minutes when they were severely out played. Sabres actually look very interesting. Tons of speed. If Tokarski keeps playing well in net they will not be an easy team to face night in night out.


Now you know why I love Daws. He was excellent last night despite the team not doing him any favors in the first. He is so quick and athletic. It's a noticeable difference between him and Wedgewood. I would start Daws until Bernier or Blackwood return and send Wedgewood to Utica. Let Daws be the backup until both vets return and then let him be the guy in Utica.

Yeah I was really impressed by his lack of unnecessary movement. Young goalies often are sliding all over the place. He looked calm and collected. I definitely would start him till Bernier or Blackwood is back. Thankfully Mac is getting vaccinated.
Looks like SJS  
pjcas18 : 10/24/2021 2:48 pm : link
undefeated start coming to and end, getting run out of the Garden in Boston. 4 - 1 after 2.
RE: Looks like SJS  
pjcas18 : 10/24/2021 3:42 pm : link
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undefeated start coming to and end, getting run out of the Garden in Boston. 4 - 1 after 2.

I almost spoke too soon. SJS came storming back, emptied the net down 4 - 3 and had some chances. Bruins held on, unfortunately.
Devs with a piss poor 1st period last night  
Stu11 : 10/27/2021 12:56 pm : link
Daws not quite as impressive as he was in his debut. Got run after 3 goals in 8 minutes to start the game. 4-0 I'm the first it was lights out. Calgary looks real improved early. Subban got $5,000 for a.trip on Lucic last night. Well deserved. It was a dirty play/borderline slee foot by PK similar to what he did to Reeves in the pre-season. He needs to cut it out. Frankly I think he's cooked. His shot rarely gets through any more and his play in his own zone is deteriorating by the game. I'd love to see him gone. Thankfully Blackwood is practicing now and getting vaccinated. We can't survivor be inconsistent goaltending especially with Jack out.
RE: Devs with a piss poor 1st period last night  
Jay on the Island : 10/27/2021 1:05 pm : link
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Daws not quite as impressive as he was in his debut. Got run after 3 goals in 8 minutes to start the game. 4-0 I'm the first it was lights out. Calgary looks real improved early. Subban got $5,000 for a.trip on Lucic last night. Well deserved. It was a dirty play/borderline slee foot by PK similar to what he did to Reeves in the pre-season. He needs to cut it out. Frankly I think he's cooked. His shot rarely gets through any more and his play in his own zone is deteriorating by the game. I'd love to see him gone. Thankfully Blackwood is practicing now and getting vaccinated. We can't survivor be inconsistent goaltending especially with Jack out.

Yea Daws looked like a 20 year old rookie in the first but thank goodness Blackwood and Bernier returned to practice. Hopefully we get at least one of them back soon so we no longer have to see Wedgewood in net for the Devils. As you mentioned the Devils have no margin for error with Hughes out. For them to have any chance they need the goaltending to play great and the defense needs to step up.
GM Stan Bowman and VP of hockey operations Al MacIsaac  
Mad Mike : 10/27/2021 2:08 pm : link
out in Chicago, with the team completing it's investigation into the sexual abuse allegations against the former video coach. Bowman has also stepped down as the GM of the US Olympic Team. The Blackhawks were fined $2MM. Joel Queenville, now Florida's coach, will meet with Bettman tomorrow - Queenville has stated he first became aware of the allegations last summer, but the investigation found he was involved in a meeting about it in 2010. Current Winnipeg Jets GM Kevin Chevaldayoff was at the same meeting as Queenville, according to the investigation - presumably he'll be talking to Bettman as well.
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RE: GM Stan Bowman and VP of hockey operations Al MacIsaac  
BrettNYG10 : 10/27/2021 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15431607 Mad Mike said:
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out in Chicago, with the team completing it's investigation into the sexual abuse allegations against the former video coach. Bowman has also stepped down as the GM of the US Olympic Team. The Blackhawks were fined $2MM. Joel Queenville, now Florida's coach, will meet with Bettman tomorrow - Queenville has stated he first became aware of the allegations last summer, but the investigation found he was involved in a meeting about it in 2010. Current Winnipeg Jets GM Kevin Chevaldayoff was at the same meeting as Queenville, according to the investigation - presumably he'll be talking to Bettman as well. link - ( New Window )


I saw some of the screenshots on Twitter. These people are scumbags. I'd suspend pretty much all of them if I was Bettman.
makes my blood boil and breaks my heart at the same time  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2021 6:57 pm : link
the league, law enforcement, whatever need to go scorched earth on this.

Quenneville should be fired and banned for life from hockey.

Cheveldayoff should be fired and banned for life from hockey.

And more Blackhawks officials - they knew and let him (Aldrich) take the Stanley Cup to a high school and be around kids and they swept it under the rug.

the players who knew (which is most if not all) and belittled Beach because of it should be suspended for a long, long time.

Normally I'm not in favor of punishing people for things from so long ago, but holy shit this is so far beyond acceptable behavior no punishment for the authority figures who knew and made a conscious decision to ignore it or worse put it back on Beach all deserve to rot in hell - a long, slow, painful death. And that would be too kind.
Absolutely  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2021 6:59 pm : link
gut wrenching video of Beach being interviewed on TSN. No one deserves that.
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...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/27/2021 7:11 pm : link
That Chicago story-which I just heard about yesterday-was absolutely disgusting.
RE: makes my blood boil and breaks my heart at the same time  
Jay on the Island : 10/27/2021 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15431961 pjcas18 said:
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the league, law enforcement, whatever need to go scorched earth on this.

Quenneville should be fired and banned for life from hockey.

Cheveldayoff should be fired and banned for life from hockey.

And more Blackhawks officials - they knew and let him (Aldrich) take the Stanley Cup to a high school and be around kids and they swept it under the rug.

the players who knew (which is most if not all) and belittled Beach because of it should be suspended for a long, long time.

Normally I'm not in favor of punishing people for things from so long ago, but holy shit this is so far beyond acceptable behavior no punishment for the authority figures who knew and made a conscious decision to ignore it or worse put it back on Beach all deserve to rot in hell - a long, slow, painful death. And that would be too kind.

I couldn’t agree more. Bettman better come down hard on everyone involved.
Guys every punishment you guys are coming up with I agree  
Stu11 : 10/27/2021 10:18 pm : link
And then some. Honestly I can't come up with a punishment I feel adequately fits the offense here for that orginization. 2 mill fine? Shit they hit the Devs 3 mill for the Kovy contract and that was over 10 years ago. Obviously everyone involved needs to be suspended for life. Fucking Quennevile. On top off it all he lied to the NHL during the investigation! AND GOT TO COACH TONIGHT. What a dark day for the league. For christ sakes the scumbag players were riding him about it in real time in the immediate aftermath of it happening!!! I mean the NCAA strips teams of titles and makes teams take down their banners. I always think that's stupid, but in this case that cup banner needs to come down asap. On top of all the suspensions for anyone involved they should lose a minimum of like 3 first rounders.
Until people go to jail  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2021 12:43 pm : link
for their failure to act in situations like this, people will continue to turn a blind eye to it IMO or at best not give it the attention incidents like this should get.

After Aldrich was politely allowed to resign from the Blackhawks he went to three different education institutions where he ultimately did this again, this time to a child.

If the Blackhawks don't share some of that responsibility (and who knows how many incidents went unreported) it would be a travesty and the worst thing is during his video interview Beach breaks down and apologizes to the victim that he didn't do more to prevent Aldrich from doing it to someone else.

fuck that. I can't type about this anymore because I get so pissed off.
RE: Until people go to jail  
Stu11 : 10/28/2021 2:50 pm : link
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for their failure to act in situations like this, people will continue to turn a blind eye to it IMO or at best not give it the attention incidents like this should get.

After Aldrich was politely allowed to resign from the Blackhawks he went to three different education institutions where he ultimately did this again, this time to a child.

If the Blackhawks don't share some of that responsibility (and who knows how many incidents went unreported) it would be a travesty and the worst thing is during his video interview Beach breaks down and apologizes to the victim that he didn't do more to prevent Aldrich from doing it to someone else.

fuck that. I can't type about this anymore because I get so pissed off.

PJ this whole thing is so infuriating. To me this is the worst situation of this nature I've ever seen. This wasn't some small cabal of organizational leadership that was covering it up. Literally the whole fucking organization knew down to the players who made it even worse for the poor kid by showering him with homophobic slurs during practice. Fucking Toews the "captain". Piece of shit needs to be stripped of that C yesterday. I mean were the ushers and hot dog vendors in on it too? PJ you are a 1000% correct. Unless the leadership that enabled and welcomed this predator to attack again and again go to jail there will be no deterrent.
Is there a succinct summary of this Blackhawks  
Metnut : 10/28/2021 2:53 pm : link
thing that someone can point me to?
RE: makes my blood boil and breaks my heart at the same time  
BrettNYG10 : 10/28/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15431961 pjcas18 said:
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the league, law enforcement, whatever need to go scorched earth on this.

Quenneville should be fired and banned for life from hockey.

Cheveldayoff should be fired and banned for life from hockey.

And more Blackhawks officials - they knew and let him (Aldrich) take the Stanley Cup to a high school and be around kids and they swept it under the rug.

the players who knew (which is most if not all) and belittled Beach because of it should be suspended for a long, long time.

Normally I'm not in favor of punishing people for things from so long ago, but holy shit this is so far beyond acceptable behavior no punishment for the authority figures who knew and made a conscious decision to ignore it or worse put it back on Beach all deserve to rot in hell - a long, slow, painful death. And that would be too kind.


100%.

I am honestly befuddled at the whole thing. Okay, you don't release it during the playoffs... but why not late June? July? August? There is an incredible selfishness to not releasing it immediately. But I can see how people behave that way. I do not understand hiding it for months, though.

You see the Joe Paterno scandal a year later and don't cleanse your organization of this?
Article with quotes from Toewes and Kane.  
Mad Mike : 10/28/2021 4:24 pm : link
Not how I'd want someone to respond to this sort of thing.
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RE: Is there a succinct summary of this Blackhawks  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2021 6:06 pm : link
In comment 15432732 Metnut said:
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thing that someone can point me to?


this link is pretty good, I suggest if you can get it the interview that Beach (the victim) did with TSN's Rick Westhead. It was hard to watch, but I feel like everyone in sports owes it to Beach to watch it.

I never experienced anything on this scale or really anything close thank god, but my daughters program had charges of sexual harassment levied by a former player against the owner of the program.

Safe sport was completely useless for the victim and the parents of current players and the program only told us it was charges of verbal abuse because he used profanity. I was a coach and I sat in a room and the Program Director said verbatim "it is really just a scorned player lodging a trumped up charge, but we need to take it seriously. It won't be long before he clears his name"

A mother on my daughters team found out what was actually going on only because she knew a friend of a friend...and saw the sexually explicit text messages the owner of the program sent to the victim (and underage kid).

That program director knew the whole time. She is still in her role.

So, the only tiny relatable thing I can share is how do they leave the program owner in his role and allow him around children (or adults) and not at least warn anyone?

Luckily for us that was as bad as it got and he was forced to sell the program (though somehow the director still has her job), but I can easily see how it could have been way worse.

The whole system needs to be burned down. Mass Hockey, USA hockey, and safe sport (especially safe sport).


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RE: Until people go to jail  
Jay on the Island : 10/28/2021 6:39 pm : link
In comment 15432547 pjcas18 said:
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for their failure to act in situations like this, people will continue to turn a blind eye to it IMO or at best not give it the attention incidents like this should get.

After Aldrich was politely allowed to resign from the Blackhawks he went to three different education institutions where he ultimately did this again, this time to a child.

If the Blackhawks don't share some of that responsibility (and who knows how many incidents went unreported) it would be a travesty and the worst thing is during his video interview Beach breaks down and apologizes to the victim that he didn't do more to prevent Aldrich from doing it to someone else.

fuck that. I can't type about this anymore because I get so pissed off.

The more facts I read the more disgusted I get. How the fuck could they allow this POS to quietly resign? You don't need to be a parent to realize what a disgusting monster he is.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/28/2021 7:14 pm : link
What I couldn't believe is that the dude did it AGAIN after leaving the Blackhawks. Chicago could have stopped that, but instead turned a blind eye so they could win a Stanley Cup. Absolutely disgusting. Their coach-I forget the dude's name-should have been fired yesterday by Florida.
Seems like  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2021 8:58 pm : link
Quennville on his way out.

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RE: Seems like  
BrettNYG10 : 10/28/2021 9:22 pm : link
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Quennville on his way out.

Kevin Weekes
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I’m hearing there’s a coaching change coming shortly with the @FlaPanthers
. Keep an eye on my @espn
colleague John Tortorella as one of the top potential candidates.
@NHL
@NHLNetwork
#HockeyTwitter .


There has to be a morality clause that can void it. Fuck him.
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pjcas18 : 10/28/2021 9:54 pm : link
Matt Porter
@mattyports
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37s
Joel Quenneville has resigned as coach of the Florida Panthers, the team said.
I’m glad that Quenneville resigned rather than him being fired  
Jay on the Island : 10/29/2021 9:57 am : link
Because Florida would be required to pay his remaining salary had they fired him. Bettman should still ban him for life without pay in the event that he can still receive some of his remaining contract from Florida.
It seemed like the door  
pjcas18 : 10/29/2021 11:01 am : link
is left wide open for Quenneville to return.

Not sure why re-entry to the league is even discussed in here.

I know above I said he should be banned for life and maybe he should, but this is not the time IMO to handle such conditions.

League office just announced that Kevin Cheveldayoff is off the hook  
Greg from LI : 10/29/2021 11:58 am : link
You've got to be kidding me.

The NHL couldn't have handled this worse if they were being paid to do so.
So Quenneville can actually come back from  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/29/2021 12:01 pm : link
yadda, yadda, yadda-ing the alleged sexual assault of one of his players by one of his coaches, then lying about it?

Real soft Bettman.
In hockey  
pjcas18 : 10/29/2021 5:25 pm : link
news Kakko back in for the NYR.

Vegas  
pjcas18 : 10/29/2021 5:46 pm : link
close to a deal for Jack Eichel.
RE: League office just announced that Kevin Cheveldayoff is off the hook  
Jay on the Island : 10/30/2021 12:05 am : link
In comment 15433632 Greg from LI said:
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You've got to be kidding me.

The NHL couldn't have handled this worse if they were being paid to do so.

Fuck Bettman, he should receive significant heat for how poorly he handled this. Of course I’m not the least bit surprised.
RE: Vegas  
Stu11 : 10/30/2021 8:57 am : link
In comment 15434020 pjcas18 said:
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close to a deal for Jack Eichel.

Huh? I guess he's gonna miss most if not all the rest of the regular season so they can pull a Tampa and stash him on LTIR. Otherwise I don't see how they could do it cap wise.
RE: RE: Vegas  
pjcas18 : 10/30/2021 9:13 am : link
In comment 15434237 Stu11 said:
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close to a deal for Jack Eichel.


Huh? I guess he's gonna miss most if not all the rest of the regular season so they can pull a Tampa and stash him on LTIR. Otherwise I don't see how they could do it cap wise.


I think they have to have Eichel fit on the roster first before going LTIR, and they have 6.5M in space right now due to LTIR.

So my guess is they send someone back to BUF like Dadonov or McNabb (in addition to whatever they trade to make the deal work) to make the salary difference or LVG offers better players/pics and gets salary relief. It's really just 3.5M in salary for one year they need to clear.
RE: RE: RE: Vegas  
Stu11 : 10/30/2021 10:39 am : link
In comment 15434241 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15434020 pjcas18 said:


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close to a deal for Jack Eichel.


Huh? I guess he's gonna miss most if not all the rest of the regular season so they can pull a Tampa and stash him on LTIR. Otherwise I don't see how they could do it cap wise.



I think they have to have Eichel fit on the roster first before going LTIR, and they have 6.5M in space right now due to LTIR.

So my guess is they send someone back to BUF like Dadonov or McNabb (in addition to whatever they trade to make the deal work) to make the salary difference or LVG offers better players/pics and gets salary relief. It's really just 3.5M in salary for one year they need to clear.

Gotcha. Very interesting. They are one team that can afford the patience to let him sit out and if they get him back come playoff time that would make them real tough.
This is one of the guys who projected  
pjcas18 : 10/30/2021 2:21 pm : link
NYR to win the SC.

Quote:
JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Roster Builder Standings Projection (and Change Since Preseason) - October 30

#LGRW Chart with upwards trend
#LetsGoBuffalo Chart with upwards trend
#LetsGoCanes Chart with upwards trend

#Blackhawks Chart with downwards trend
#Yotes Chart with downwards trend
#GoHabsGo Chart with downwards trend


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pjcas18 : 10/30/2021 3:33 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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12m
The roller coaster that is the the Jack Eichel saga continues to twist and turn. Trade talks heated up and cooled this week. Seems like talks have reheated today. Stay tuned.
Nice win for the Devs last night in Pitt with Crosby's return  
Stu11 : 10/31/2021 9:55 am : link
Goaltending is such a difference maker. Once Pitt tied it in the 3rd, they sent the Kitchen sink at the Devs for a good 8 minutes or so including 2 pp's and Bernier stood in his head. Not in love with the penalty shot call given to Bratt but I'll definitely take it. With Jack out 5 or 6 more weeks we need every point. Blackwood should make his debut any day now maybe as soon as today.
RE: Nice win for the Devs last night in Pitt with Crosby's return  
Jay on the Island : 10/31/2021 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15434923 Stu11 said:
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Goaltending is such a difference maker. Once Pitt tied it in the 3rd, they sent the Kitchen sink at the Devs for a good 8 minutes or so including 2 pp's and Bernier stood in his head. Not in love with the penalty shot call given to Bratt but I'll definitely take it. With Jack out 5 or 6 more weeks we need every point. Blackwood should make his debut any day now maybe as soon as today.

Yes we saw again tonight how important goaltending is. After a great game by Bernier last night Wedgewood turns in another mediocre performance and gives up a lead late in the 3rd period only to lose in a shootout to Columbus.

It's time to demote Gauthier and replace him with Boqvist or even Talvitie. With Wood due back soon I doubt they promote Holtz even though he is tearing up the AHL. I hope this was the last time we see Wedgewood play in the NHL for the Devils.
RE: RE: Nice win for the Devs last night in Pitt with Crosby's return  
Stu11 : 10/31/2021 10:11 pm : link
In comment 15435427 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15434923 Stu11 said:


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Goaltending is such a difference maker. Once Pitt tied it in the 3rd, they sent the Kitchen sink at the Devs for a good 8 minutes or so including 2 pp's and Bernier stood in his head. Not in love with the penalty shot call given to Bratt but I'll definitely take it. With Jack out 5 or 6 more weeks we need every point. Blackwood should make his debut any day now maybe as soon as today.


Yes we saw again tonight how important goaltending is. After a great game by Bernier last night Wedgewood turns in another mediocre performance and gives up a lead late in the 3rd period only to lose in a shootout to Columbus.

It's time to demote Gauthier and replace him with Boqvist or even Talvitie. With Wood due back soon I doubt they promote Holtz even though he is tearing up the AHL. I hope this was the last time we see Wedgewood play in the NHL for the Devils.

Yep I was there Jay was saying the same thing to my brother. No way that 3rd period goal can go in. I agree that 4th line has been useless. Up close you really see the difference legit top pairing Dmen like Graves and Hamilton can make. Their size and skill dwarfs the garbage we've been running out there on the back line. Dougie had a goal and 10 shots. Bratt needs to finish. He has too much speed and skill to be held off the score sheet against a mediocre team like Columbus
RE: RE: RE: Nice win for the Devs last night in Pitt with Crosby's return  
Jay on the Island : 11/1/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15435478 Stu11 said:
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Yep I was there Jay was saying the same thing to my brother. No way that 3rd period goal can go in. I agree that 4th line has been useless. Up close you really see the difference legit top pairing Dmen like Graves and Hamilton can make. Their size and skill dwarfs the garbage we've been running out there on the back line. Dougie had a goal and 10 shots. Bratt needs to finish. He has too much speed and skill to be held off the score sheet against a mediocre team like Columbus

There is a lot wrong with the Devils right now but it’s not who you would expect. Sharangovich, Bratt, and Ty Smith have not been good so far. Ty Smith cost them the game last night and he clearly needed time in the AHL since he missed all of camp and has only played 4 games. Hischier only has 3 points but he is playing very well and it seems like he should score two goals most nights but just isn’t finishing.

You’re right Hamilton has been worth the money so far. After a slow start him and Graves have been great together. Since we received news that Hughes will be re-evaluated in 5 weeks the Devils need to make changes to stay in it.

It’s time to promote Holtz. They need a sniper to put with Nico and after seeing Mercer thrive in a top 6 role I am confident that Holtz can hold his own too.
Mercer has been the brightest spot on the team so far  
Stu11 : 11/1/2021 11:37 am : link
His all around game has been exactly as advertised. Threw the best hit of the day and also got Korpisolo so mad he actually took a swing at him lol. Yeah Sharengovich has been a MAJOR disappointment. I was hoping for 20+ goals out of him and he looks lost. Oh well its still early, hopefully he finds his game on the trip out west. I agree Holtz needs to be called up yesterday. We have no finishing right now and the guy is an absolute sniper.
Not sure Eichel  
pjcas18 : 11/1/2021 3:55 pm : link
would help this quickly, but who knows.

NHL News
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RE: Mercer has been the brightest spot on the team so far  
Jay on the Island : 11/2/2021 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15435954 Stu11 said:
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His all around game has been exactly as advertised. Threw the best hit of the day and also got Korpisolo so mad he actually took a swing at him lol. Yeah Sharengovich has been a MAJOR disappointment. I was hoping for 20+ goals out of him and he looks lost. Oh well its still early, hopefully he finds his game on the trip out west. I agree Holtz needs to be called up yesterday. We have no finishing right now and the guy is an absolute sniper.

I think that Sharangovich will turn it around as I believe last season was not a fluke. He clearly misses Hughes but I would like to see him get more time with Nico until Hughes returns.

I loved the Mercer pick when it was made and he has been as good as advertised so far. A 19 year old playing top six minutes in the middle and producing is very impressive. This kid is solid in all situations and he is becoming a key long term piece. Johnsson is having a great start but Mercer is a big reason why. The Johnsson Mercer Bratt line has been one of the few bright spots so far.

Carey  
pjcas18 : 11/2/2021 1:29 pm : link
Price to return in the next week or so. i hope he is healthy and ready to contribute.

Not sure adding Price to this shit show that is the Montreal Canadiens will right the ship, but can't hurt.
RE: Carey  
Jay on the Island : 11/2/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15440171 pjcas18 said:
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Price to return in the next week or so. i hope he is healthy and ready to contribute.

Not sure adding Price to this shit show that is the Montreal Canadiens will right the ship, but can't hurt.

That’s great news. This should provide a boost to the roster but they’re still not a good team with the injuries.
No  
pjcas18 : 11/2/2021 2:24 pm : link
Habs should be thinking long-term.

In other habs news, Cole Caufield was sent to down to the AHL. I don't mind that other than he was playing 1st line mostly and PP1 in the NHL, so it's not like he wasn't playing. Just not scoring.

RE: RE: Carey  
Stu11 : 11/2/2021 4:42 pm : link
In comment 15440273 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15440171 pjcas18 said:


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Price to return in the next week or so. i hope he is healthy and ready to contribute.

Not sure adding Price to this shit show that is the Montreal Canadiens will right the ship, but can't hurt.


That’s great news. This should provide a boost to the roster but they’re still not a good team with the injuries.

Ditto that is really good news I wish the best for him. He and his wife seem less ke really good people.
" seem like good people"  
Stu11 : 11/2/2021 4:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Carey  
Jay on the Island : 11/2/2021 8:08 pm : link
In comment 15440632 Stu11 said:
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In comment 15440273 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 15440171 pjcas18 said:


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Price to return in the next week or so. i hope he is healthy and ready to contribute.

Not sure adding Price to this shit show that is the Montreal Canadiens will right the ship, but can't hurt.


That’s great news. This should provide a boost to the roster but they’re still not a good team with the injuries.


Ditto that is really good news I wish the best for him. He and his wife seem less ke really good people.

He’s one of the league’s best on and off the ice and just impossible to root against. He’s one of my favorite non-Devils players of all time.
He is such a class  
pjcas18 : 11/2/2021 8:55 pm : link
act, his famous interaction with the kid whose mother died from cancer is one of my favorite moments in sports of all time (including actual plays from games).



RE: He is such a class  
Jay on the Island : 11/2/2021 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15440916 pjcas18 said:
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act, his famous interaction with the kid whose mother died from cancer is one of my favorite moments in sports of all time (including actual plays from games).



I was choked up watching that.
Watching the Devs on ESPN +  
Stu11 : 11/2/2021 10:35 pm : link
This broadcast is like amateur hour. I like Kevin Weakes in the studio but he's stiff as a color guy and this woman doing okay by okay is like a bad AHL play by play person.
Superb job by Linda Cohn between the boards  
Stu11 : 11/2/2021 11:30 pm : link
Managed to relay to us that Troy Terry improved because he bought a dog this summer but she hasn't gotten around to telling us that Dougie Hamilton is apparently injured. Thankfully the Devs team reporter Amanda Stein is always all over this stuff on Twitter...
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pjcas18 : 11/3/2021 1:13 pm : link
Emily Kaplan
@emilymkaplan
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13h
Here’s the latest on Jack Eichel.

Multiple sources tell ESPN it’s down to Calgary and Vegas. Sabres GM Kevyn Adams is working hard to get it done, but neither team has met his asks yet.

Sources say both teams are OK with Eichel getting his preferred surgery.
Kravtsov is a RFA after the season  
pjcas18 : 11/3/2021 1:27 pm : link
I see a divorce coming not a reunion. Probably a deadline trade.

Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
·
2m
Rangers are working on loan agreement for Kravtsov with KHL Traktor Chelyabinsk...From what I can glean, never say never to possible reunion with Blueshirts...
It's a great day  
Jay on the Island : 11/3/2021 2:20 pm : link
Wedgewood was just placed on waivers. I'm not sure what the Devils are going to do with him because they have their top two goalie prospects Nico Daws and Akira Schmid in the AHL right now. I hope they just release Wedgewood rather than send either one of the prospects to the ECHL.
If Dougie Hamilton is out for an extended period of time  
Stu11 : 11/3/2021 2:31 pm : link
Like Jack, this season is gonna go south in warp speed. Last night was as an uninspired effort against a mediocre Ducks team as I've seen in a long time. How Naserdine and Rechi
Still have jobs is a complete mystery to me. We have had by far the worst specials in hockey for a season plus now. It's a complete embarrassment. We took 2 too many men on the ice penalties within 5 minutes last night. That is a new level of ineptitude.
RE: If Dougie Hamilton is out for an extended period of time  
pjcas18 : 11/3/2021 2:38 pm : link
In comment 15441702 Stu11 said:
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Like Jack, this season is gonna go south in warp speed. Last night was as an uninspired effort against a mediocre Ducks team as I've seen in a long time. How Naserdine and Rechi
Still have jobs is a complete mystery to me. We have had by far the worst specials in hockey for a season plus now. It's a complete embarrassment. We took 2 too many men on the ice penalties within 5 minutes last night. That is a new level of ineptitude.


I often wonder who to blame for too many men. Is it the coach or the players? Sometimes you just don't know.
RE: If Dougie Hamilton is out for an extended period of time  
Jay on the Island : 11/3/2021 3:22 pm : link
In comment 15441702 Stu11 said:
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Like Jack, this season is gonna go south in warp speed. Last night was as an uninspired effort against a mediocre Ducks team as I've seen in a long time. How Naserdine and Rechi
Still have jobs is a complete mystery to me. We have had by far the worst specials in hockey for a season plus now. It's a complete embarrassment. We took 2 too many men on the ice penalties within 5 minutes last night. That is a new level of ineptitude.

Well said, I was expecting Recchi to be let go after last season. As you said the Devils will hit rock bottom if Hamilton is out for an extended period of time. Hopefully they fire the entire coaching staff at seasons end.
No idea if this is true  
pjcas18 : 11/3/2021 6:06 pm : link
but if I were BUF I'd jump at this trade offer - especiallky if no salary is retained.

Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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Rumors: According to @KevinWeekes
the #Flames are offering Matthew Tkachuk, an upcoming 1 round pick, a former 1st round pick, and 2 prospects to the #LetsGoBuffalo for Jack Eichel.
RE: No idea if this is true  
Stu11 : 11/3/2021 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15442001 pjcas18 said:
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but if I were BUF I'd jump at this trade offer - especiallky if no salary is retained.

Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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26m
Rumors: According to @KevinWeekes
the #Flames are offering Matthew Tkachuk, an upcoming 1 round pick, a former 1st round pick, and 2 prospects to the #LetsGoBuffalo for Jack Eichel.

Absolutely. If that's a true offer Buffalo will never do better.
Eichel  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 7:42 am : link
trade done, not positive if the terms matched above, but details coming out now. Not sure it needs it's own thread.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
13m
Interesting start to the morning. @TheInstigator76
is correct. Jack Eichel has been traded to @GoldenKnights
. Alex Tuch and picks part of the deal. Details to come. Trade call pending.
Other twitter users  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 7:43 am : link
now sharing...

TSN Hockey
@TSNHockey
· 7m
The Buffalo Sabres have dealt centre Jack Eichel to the Vegas Golden Knights, pending a trade call (via @DarrenDreger): http://tsn.ca/1.1716133

#TSNHockey | #TradeCentre
pretty close to what was mentioned  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 7:44 am : link


Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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Pending trade call, The @BuffaloSabres
trade Jack Eichel and a 2023 3rd round pick, to the @GoldenKnights
for Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, a 1st in 2022 and a 3rd in 2023.
Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 7:46 am : link
would have been better than Tuch if the trade was with CAL, but either way, nice trade for BUF IMO.

And if Eichel can get healthy good add for LVG.
RE: Tkachuk  
Mike in NY : 11/4/2021 7:51 am : link
In comment 15442521 pjcas18 said:
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would have been better than Tuch if the trade was with CAL, but either way, nice trade for BUF IMO.

And if Eichel can get healthy good add for LVG.


I doubt that Calgary offer was real or there were more aspects to it that made it overall a less desirable deal
RE: RE: Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 7:54 am : link
In comment 15442522 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15442521 pjcas18 said:


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would have been better than Tuch if the trade was with CAL, but either way, nice trade for BUF IMO.

And if Eichel can get healthy good add for LVG.



I doubt that Calgary offer was real or there were more aspects to it that made it overall a less desirable deal


CAL denied it almost immediately.
BUF  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 7:56 am : link
has 3 1st round picks now in 2022.

If they don't make any Skinner-like gaffes they can remake the whole complexion of their team.

Two of the 1sts are going to be late 1st (FLA and LVG), but still 3 1sts.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/4/2021 8:55 am : link
Would the Rangers #1, Kravtsov, and Strome been a much worse offer this past off-season?

Little disappointed NYR didn't get it done.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 9:01 am : link
In comment 15442595 BrettNYG10 said:
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Would the Rangers #1, Kravtsov, and Strome been a much worse offer this past off-season?

Little disappointed NYR didn't get it done.


No, if they threw in Schneider or Lundqvist with or maybe even instead of Strome maybe a stronger offer (since Tuch's health is a question).

I think once Zib was extended the Rangers had little shot at Eichel without including someone like Trouba or Kreider in the trade. And I know he's the current whipping boy, but Trouba is very valuable.
RE: ....  
Mike in NY : 11/4/2021 9:03 am : link
In comment 15442595 BrettNYG10 said:
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Would the Rangers #1, Kravtsov, and Strome been a much worse offer this past off-season?

Little disappointed NYR didn't get it done.


Krebs is much better than headcase Kravtsov. Strome I think benefits from the talent around him that he won't have in Buffalo. In addition, I think Buffalo wanted the more physical play of Tuch.
Thanks, guys.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/4/2021 9:30 am : link
The offer seemed a little light, but my knowledge of prospects is very weak.

Doesn't seem absurdly cheap relative to expectations.
As soon as my cousin told me about the Calgary offer  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2021 9:43 am : link
I said there is no way that's real. I suggested that it was probably leaked from Buffalo in order to put pressure on Vegas to up their offer.
RE: As soon as my cousin told me about the Calgary offer  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 9:52 am : link
In comment 15442664 Jay on the Island said:
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I said there is no way that's real. I suggested that it was probably leaked from Buffalo in order to put pressure on Vegas to up their offer.


I think the key is that Tkachuk is an RFA and no way BUF takes the risk that Tkachuk would not sign and they'd want a window to negotiate an extension.

if you're Tkachuk not sure you want to go to BUF long term.
RE: RE: As soon as my cousin told me about the Calgary offer  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15442677 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15442664 Jay on the Island said:


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I said there is no way that's real. I suggested that it was probably leaked from Buffalo in order to put pressure on Vegas to up their offer.



I think the key is that Tkachuk is an RFA and no way BUF takes the risk that Tkachuk would not sign and they'd want a window to negotiate an extension.

if you're Tkachuk not sure you want to go to BUF long term.

That's a good point, I would jump at that offer if Calgary allowed an extension as part of the deal otherwise I would pass.
Something to keep an eye on around the deadline  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 10:56 am : link
when Eichel is expected to be back.

From what I know, neither Pacioretty or Stone is expected to be out long term.

Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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When #VegasBorn is healthy, that means Stone, Pacioretty, Eichel, they will be $10.3M over the cap.
Leafs  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 11:21 am : link
already tearing it down? or just tweaking?

Nick Kypreos
@RealKyper
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21m
Besides Travis Dermott, hearing that @leafs
have also made it clear to @NHL
clubs Justin Holl is available in trade discussions. More detail with @jtbourne
and @SamAMcKee
today 3-5pm est @FAN590
The Devils have promoted Alexander Holtz  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2021 2:10 pm : link
He is expected to play tomorrow versus the Kings.
RE: The Devils have promoted Alexander Holtz  
pjcas18 : 11/4/2021 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15443198 Jay on the Island said:
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He is expected to play tomorrow versus the Kings.


Holtz vs Raymond is one of those debates hockey nerds would have for hours. In the end not much separated them (in draft terms) Raymond went #4 and Holtz #7.

I admit I was torn. I love Holtz shot. Not many players at any level can wire it like he can. The sniper is becoming more and more rare in hockey so if he proves his shot is still elite at this level he will have a long and prosperous career.

I thought Raymond was more well rounded and off the charts from a play maker standpoint. He looked great a couple nights ago vs the Habs though didn't convert to the stat sheet. Which is sort of the issue with players like Raymond (who does have a hatty this year) is when they don't score, a lot of the good they do is lost on some fans.

Looking forward to seeing Holtz.
RE: The Devils have promoted Alexander Holtz  
Stu11 : 11/4/2021 2:47 pm : link
In comment 15443198 Jay on the Island said:
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He is expected to play tomorrow versus the Kings.

Hallelujah! He had a real good pre season, very excited to see if that translates to the regular season.
And Wedgewood was claimed by Arizona  
Stu11 : 11/4/2021 2:56 pm : link
So that takes care of the quandary of where they'd send him Jay
RE: And Wedgewood was claimed by Arizona  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2021 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15443287 Stu11 said:
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So that takes care of the quandary of where they'd send him Jay

Thank you Arizona! Now Daws and Schmid can split time in Utica.
I hope Holtz is here to stay  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2021 3:02 pm : link
and not just a desperation move because they fear that Hamilton will be out a while also.
RE: RE: The Devils have promoted Alexander Holtz  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2021 3:03 pm : link
In comment 15443217 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15443198 Jay on the Island said:


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He is expected to play tomorrow versus the Kings.



Holtz vs Raymond is one of those debates hockey nerds would have for hours. In the end not much separated them (in draft terms) Raymond went #4 and Holtz #7.

I admit I was torn. I love Holtz shot. Not many players at any level can wire it like he can. The sniper is becoming more and more rare in hockey so if he proves his shot is still elite at this level he will have a long and prosperous career.

I thought Raymond was more well rounded and off the charts from a play maker standpoint. He looked great a couple nights ago vs the Habs though didn't convert to the stat sheet. Which is sort of the issue with players like Raymond (who does have a hatty this year) is when they don't score, a lot of the good they do is lost on some fans.

Looking forward to seeing Holtz.

I wanted Rossi there because he's a center but I was very happy to land Holtz because he seemed like a perfect fit next to Hughes or Hischier. The Devils desperately needed a sniper.
The Isles  
KDubbs : 11/4/2021 3:05 pm : link
traded Boychuks rights to buffalo to help them get to the cap floor
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pjcas18 : 11/5/2021 11:12 am : link
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Fox is the goods  
pjcas18 : 11/5/2021 1:00 pm : link
but so is TDA, giving him away is unfortunate.

Pionk, TDA, and Fox with NYR connections.

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Diving into the best puck-moving and distributing defenders in the early goings of the season for @Sportsnet


https://sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/analyzing-nhl-defencemen-best-puck-movers-game/
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that Trouba trade sure didn't work out very well  
Greg from LI : 11/5/2021 1:06 pm : link
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Lindy Ruff has to go  
Jay on the Island : 11/6/2021 10:40 am : link
Sharangovich received just 10 minutes of ice time last as he has been buried on the fourth line along with Kuokkanen who received just 7 minutes which is less than Gauthier who still doesn't have a point despite playing in every game.

Then with Hamilton out instead of playing Jaros or Colton White he plays the goon Geersten. I still can't believe they hired this guy over Gallant.
RE: Lindy Ruff has to go  
Stu11 : 11/6/2021 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15445146 Jay on the Island said:
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Sharangovich received just 10 minutes of ice time last as he has been buried on the fourth line along with Kuokkanen who received just 7 minutes which is less than Gauthier who still doesn't have a point despite playing in every game.

Then with Hamilton out instead of playing Jaros or Colton White he plays the goon Geersten. I still can't believe they hired this guy over Gallant.

The defensive breakdowns on the goals were horrific. Severson played like he bet on the Kings. Even Graves coughed up a clear with 5 seconds left in the 2nd. Zacha and Bratt were the bright spots on offense. Zacha is going next level with goals in big spots this year. Blackwood looked sharp in his debut except for the 2nd goal which he should have had. Agreed on the playing time. Sharengovich is obviously in Le chateau bow wow. We need his scoring especially without Jack. He needs to be a top 6 fwd.
No idea  
pjcas18 : 11/6/2021 4:38 pm : link
why teams continually recycle coaches.

never a fan of Ruff in any capacity. I did think it was funny when rangers fans used to blame Ruff for the defense deficiencies last year when they were running out guys like Brendan Smith, Marc Staal, and young guys like Miller. Like it was Ruff's defense "scheme" that was the cause of the defensive woes.
Last night was the first time I ever saw  
PetesHereNow : 11/6/2021 5:31 pm : link
a NHL defenseman literally fail on everything he tried to do for an entire game. If you were making an instructional video of what not to do as a NHL defenseman, just show a DVD of Damon Severson's game last night vs. the Kings.
Miles Wood had hip surgery today  
Stu11 : 11/8/2021 12:42 pm : link
He's someone that low key we really miss. I know you're not a huge fan Jay but we really miss his speed and size in front of the net. We don't have someone to fill that roll screening in front. Also we could really use his scoring. We really struggle to score goals. Dougie practiced today and sounds like good chance he's back tomorrow.
Lucas Raymond  
pjcas18 : 11/8/2021 12:47 pm : link
off to a really good start, he is going to be a star IMO.

14 points in his first 13 games.

And he's still 19.

Playing 3rd line minutes (but plenty of PP time), but just 4 of his 14 points came on the power play.

he's had some puck luck, but he's shooting 15.8%, so high but not ridiculously so.

RE: Lucas Raymond  
Jay on the Island : 11/8/2021 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15448499 pjcas18 said:
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off to a really good start, he is going to be a star IMO.

14 points in his first 13 games.

And he's still 19.

Playing 3rd line minutes (but plenty of PP time), but just 4 of his 14 points came on the power play. Here is a kid that doesn't have any weaknesses in his game.

he's had some puck luck, but he's shooting 15.8%, so high but not ridiculously so.

That kid is a stud. I was a fan of his in the draft but I knew that he wouldn't fall to the Devils.
RE: Miles Wood had hip surgery today  
Jay on the Island : 11/8/2021 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15448488 Stu11 said:
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He's someone that low key we really miss. I know you're not a huge fan Jay but we really miss his speed and size in front of the net. We don't have someone to fill that roll screening in front. Also we could really use his scoring. We really struggle to score goals. Dougie practiced today and sounds like good chance he's back tomorrow.

I am not a fan at all but you are right the Devils do miss his speed especially when they were forced to play Gauthier and Studenic in his place.

Now both of those players were sent to the AHL and hopefully Gauthier never plays for the Devils again. I look forward to seeing who they promote. I'm hoping for Jesper Boqvist and Tyce Thompson.

Some good news for the Devils it sounds like Dougie Hamilton will be back for tomorrow's game. I just wish that they could trade Subban and give his roster spot to Colton White who has played better than I expected. Ty Smith played his best game of the season next to White and it's obvious that he isn't a good fit next to Severson. Smith needs to be paired with a defensive defenseman. The Devils have several options there in the AHL.
RE: RE: Miles Wood had hip surgery today  
Stu11 : 11/8/2021 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15448914 Jay on the Island said:
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He's someone that low key we really miss. I know you're not a huge fan Jay but we really miss his speed and size in front of the net. We don't have someone to fill that roll screening in front. Also we could really use his scoring. We really struggle to score goals. Dougie practiced today and sounds like good chance he's back tomorrow.


I am not a fan at all but you are right the Devils do miss his speed especially when they were forced to play Gauthier and Studenic in his place.

Now both of those players were sent to the AHL and hopefully Gauthier never plays for the Devils again. I look forward to seeing who they promote. I'm hoping for Jesper Boqvist and Tyce Thompson.

Some good news for the Devils it sounds like Dougie Hamilton will be back for tomorrow's game. I just wish that they could trade Subban and give his roster spot to Colton White who has played better than I expected. Ty Smith played his best game of the season next to White and it's obvious that he isn't a good fit next to Severson. Smith needs to be paired with a defensive defenseman. The Devils have several options there in the AHL.

Jay I'd love to see them give Bahl a shot, but you're right White has been solid. Such a noticable difference with the goaltending now. We don't sniff even a point Saturday without Bernier.
Not much to argue with here  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2021 9:25 am : link
except Kucherov is out long term again, Crosby has barely played this year, and if EDM combined Draisaitl and McDavid it would be #1 line without a wing (lol).

...  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2021 10:12 am : link
The Ovechkin goal record is one of my favorite storylines to follow. He may only need two seasons after this one. I remember looking at the numbers in 2016 or 2017 thinking he had like a 30% chance, but I'd give him 60-70% odds now.
I think Ovie  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2021 10:19 am : link
breaks the record if he stays healthy.

He's on pace for what? 75 goals at 36?

If he gets that or close he'll be around 800 going in to his 37 year old season.

He will break 894 before he hits 40.

And not much different gp than Gretzky.

It's amazing how Ovie doesn't drop off  
Stu11 : 11/9/2021 11:23 am : link
Frankly he's having his best season in years. The Caps will never slow down.
Ovie will break it as long as he doesn’t suffer any major injuries  
Jay on the Island : 11/9/2021 1:08 pm : link
I had my doubts a year ago but this season he’s proven that he’s still a lethal goal scorer despite his age.
Because he was the  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2021 1:19 pm : link
star when I was growing up and he's the GOAT I sort of in my mind protected Gretzky as being the best goal scorer of all time.

But now that I'm less immature I have to allow that Ovi is a better goal scorer even if he doesn't surpass Gretzky.

The era we're in now with the bigger goalie equipment, different rules, a more global game, and in general a higher talent level, what Ovi is doing is scoring at the most impressive pace ever. IMO.

Of course Gretzky is still the GOAT and as impressive as Gretzky's 894 goals is, his 1963 assists is even more impressive. For comparison sake, Ovi has 600 assists as of today.

Assists are worthless, who cares about them?  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2021 1:26 pm : link
Ovechkin is ~152 even strength goals behind Gretzky, he probably won't catch that.

I agree about Ovechkin being the best goal scorer. Defense has gotten much better since the 90s as well. Coaching's suffocated a lot of offense out of the game and tightened it up.

Incredible stat I saw on Twitter: Pavel Bure had 59 goals with the Panthers in 2000-2001. The next leading point getter had 37 points.
Gretzky is an outlier in every way  
arniefez : 11/9/2021 2:08 pm : link
To my eye he wasn't an elite skater, he wasn't an elite goal scorer and yet is unquestionably the greatest hockey player in my lifetime. Better than Orr. Better than Mario, anyone else you want to name.

IMO if the early 80's Oilers team played in Toronto, or any city where money wasn't an issue, I think they would have won 10 Cups maybe more. Messier is arguably a top 10 player of all time and he was the 2nd line center. Paul Coffey is very underrated, talk about an elite skater he made plays like the Miller goal last night every night. There were about a half dozen other all star players on those Gretzky/Messier teams.

Gordie's prime was before my time. The best goal scorer I ever saw before Ovechkin was Mike Bossy.
Rough couple of nights in the tri state area for Spencer Knight  
Stu11 : 11/9/2021 10:18 pm : link
And the Panthers. Devs pump in 6 on him in a 7-3 explosion tonight. Andreas Johnsson with 2 more tonight. Devs had high hopes for him when they picked him up last off season and he was a bust last year. He's got 6 already this year and him and Zacha with 6 have been a huge boost for a team that struggles to score goals.
RE: Rough couple of nights in the tri state area for Spencer Knight  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15450449 Stu11 said:
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And the Panthers. Devs pump in 6 on him in a 7-3 explosion tonight. Andreas Johnsson with 2 more tonight. Devs had high hopes for him when they picked him up last off season and he was a bust last year. He's got 6 already this year and him and Zacha with 6 have been a huge boost for a team that struggles to score goals.

It's funny what happens when you remove two dead weights in Gauthier and Studenic from the roster and replace them with more talented players in Boqvist and Thompson.

I wanted Seattle to select Johnsson in the expansion draft but I am thrilled that they didn't. I was clearly wrong as he has looked like a completely different player.

RE: Rough couple of nights in the tri state area for Spencer Knight  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2021 10:26 am : link
In comment 15450449 Stu11 said:
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And the Panthers. Devs pump in 6 on him in a 7-3 explosion tonight. Andreas Johnsson with 2 more tonight. Devs had high hopes for him when they picked him up last off season and he was a bust last year. He's got 6 already this year and him and Zacha with 6 have been a huge boost for a team that struggles to score goals.


Why did Knight start both games?
Bobrovsky  
pjcas18 : 11/10/2021 11:18 am : link
left a game injured.
RE: Bobrovsky  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15450704 pjcas18 said:
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left a game injured.


Thanks.
Not a bad 3 games for the Devs  
Stu11 : 11/10/2021 12:35 pm : link
They get 5 out out of 6 points with no Jack or Dougie Hamilton. Goaltending makes such a huge difference. With Blackwood and Bernier back it gives us a chance most nights. You can go over the lines and d pairings all you want, but one thing that hasn't changed on hockey over nearly 100 years is the need for good goaltending. There's no substitute.
RE: Not a bad 3 games for the Devs  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2021 12:54 pm : link
In comment 15450780 Stu11 said:
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They get 5 out out of 6 points with no Jack or Dougie Hamilton. Goaltending makes such a huge difference. With Blackwood and Bernier back it gives us a chance most nights. You can go over the lines and d pairings all you want, but one thing that hasn't changed on hockey over nearly 100 years is the need for good goaltending. There's no substitute.

You're right obviously. Blackwood let a couple of weaker shots in last night but then he stepped up and finished the game strong. Blackwood and Bernier are exactly what the Devils were hoping so far. Also have you seen Utica? They are 7-0 with Nico Daws and Akira Schmid playing outstanding. I am so glad that Wedgewood is gone so these two prospects can split time in the AHL. This experience will hopefully benefit them where one of these two will replace Bernier as the backup after his contract expires.
Bobrovsky has been outstanding this season  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2021 12:55 pm : link
He's arguably the current favorite for the Vezina.
I still think  
pjcas18 : 11/10/2021 1:30 pm : link
the Bobrovsky contract is terrible and more terrible since they drafted Knight #13 overall.

But Bobrovsky/Knight's start is a good example why it's hard to project when a player will be ready.

Knight has allowed 15 goals his last 3 games. Many he had no chance to save, but he has not looked as good as he did while serving as Bob's backup.
RE: I still think  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2021 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15450820 pjcas18 said:
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the Bobrovsky contract is terrible and more terrible since they drafted Knight #13 overall.

But Bobrovsky/Knight's start is a good example why it's hard to project when a player will be ready.

Knight has allowed 15 goals his last 3 games. Many he had no chance to save, but he has not looked as good as he did while serving as Bob's backup.

Unless Bobrovsky plays like this for several years this contract will be terrible. The move was criticized by most and that was before they took Knight high in the first round. They would have been better off long term had they signed a cheaper stop gap to serve as the starter until Knight was ready.
RE: Bobrovsky has been outstanding this season  
Stu11 : 11/10/2021 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15450792 Jay on the Island said:
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He's arguably the current favorite for the Vezina.

Interesting on the telecast they mentioned how they asked Jon Cooper if his Lightening don't repeat who was his favorite to won the cup and he said Florida. I can see it. They are as fast and explosive as any team in the league. Also after 3 Devs games in a week on ESPN + exclusively, I can say this- it's brutal. That ice level view they go to sans announcers for like a minute at time generally sucks. It dramatically reduces the view especially because you can't see half the net! The game announcers are comically bad. The studio guys are ok but last night they had 4 of them at once. What's the point of shelling out for a guy like Torts if you're barely gonna let him speak? NBC had a light years better production.
RE: RE: Bobrovsky has been outstanding this season  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2021 7:06 pm : link
In comment 15450856 Stu11 said:
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He's arguably the current favorite for the Vezina.


Interesting on the telecast they mentioned how they asked Jon Cooper if his Lightening don't repeat who was his favorite to won the cup and he said Florida. I can see it. They are as fast and explosive as any team in the league. Also after 3 Devs games in a week on ESPN + exclusively, I can say this- it's brutal. That ice level view they go to sans announcers for like a minute at time generally sucks. It dramatically reduces the view especially because you can't see half the net! The game announcers are comically bad. The studio guys are ok but last night they had 4 of them at once. What's the point of shelling out for a guy like Torts if you're barely gonna let him speak? NBC had a light years better production.

I can easily see the Panthers winning the Stanley cup. In fact they are my surprise pick this year although it’s not really a surprise anymore since they are playing so well.
Former Habs  
pjcas18 : 11/11/2021 12:27 pm : link
and Team Canada phenom, turned JAG, makes NHL debut tonight. You never know, some goalie develop later and Fucale is 26.

Washington Capitals
@Capitals
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Zach Fucale will get the start in net tonight in Detroit, per Head Coach Laviolette.
Bob Murray  
pjcas18 : 11/11/2021 12:44 pm : link
resigns as GM of ANA.

checked into alcohol rehab.

Been with ANA for 16 years, GM for 13. I believe the longest tenured GM, if not he was definitely one of the most senior.

seems like it was forced based on an anonymous (?) complaint to the NHL tip hotline.

I have no clue what he did nor do I have any opinion of him, barely know who he is beyond GM of the Ducks, but man, you better hope your past is squeaky clean if you are in any type of leadership role.

RE: Former Habs  
pjcas18 : 11/11/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15451438 pjcas18 said:
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and Team Canada phenom, turned JAG, makes NHL debut tonight. You never know, some goalie develop later and Fucale is 26.

Washington Capitals
@Capitals
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Zach Fucale will get the start in net tonight in Detroit, per Head Coach Laviolette.


Fucale with the shutout in his debut.

Good for him and i don't mean that in a pity/condescending way. He seemed like a good dude, under a shit load of pressure.
Fucale  
five5 : 11/12/2021 12:00 am : link
Is he worth a pickup in fantasy?
Happy for Fucale. Great story  
Stu11 : 11/12/2021 2:27 am : link
Love seeing his family there to enjoy it with him. Devs with another impressive win over a good Islander team 4-0. Unusually wide open game for Devs-Islanders. 63 total scoring chances. Blackwood was superb with 42 saves. Dawson Mercer with another goal now has 8 points in 12 games has to start getting some early season Calder love. Dougie Hamilton returns with a goal and an assist and 5 shots. He's had 2 goals and a helper with a whopping 15 shots on goal his past 2 full games. That's game changing.
RE: Fucale  
pjcas18 : 11/12/2021 7:19 am : link
In comment 15452073 five5 said:
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Is he worth a pickup in fantasy?

I guess it depends on why he started, was Vanecek or Samsonov injured? I haven't been paying attention.

As a 3rd goalie maybe not, but as a backup two one of Vanecek or Samsonov if it will be long-term maybe.
On my theme of the week- goaltending  
Stu11 : 11/12/2021 9:08 am : link
Some guys have really propelled teams to good starts. Binnington has rediscovered his cup form and surprisingly has St Louis in 1st. Merzlikins has been superb and has Columbus of to a good start in the brutally tough Metro. Revisiting the Dubois-Laine trade a year later both have gotten comfortable and off to really good starts with their teams. Unfortunately Laine hurt his oblique and will be out awhile. Didn't notice Edmonton was off to a 10-2 start. If Koskinen Continues to play like this they can contend. It's amazing how Draisaitl can go point for point with Connor Mac at times
RE: Habs  
5BowlsSoon : 11/12/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15451976 pjcas18 said:
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and Team Canada phenom, turned JAG, makes NHL debut tonight. You never know, some goalie develop later and Fucale is 26.

Washington Capitals
@Capitals
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Zach Fucale will get the start in net tonight in Detroit, per Head Coach Laviolette.



Fucale with the shutout in his debut.

Good for him and i don't mean that in a pity/condescending way. He seemed like a good dude, under a shit load of pressure.


Hey pj…..congrats on Habs win vs a hot Calgary team, and not Detroit.

I didn’t expect much from your boys this year:

Price
Weber
Edmundson
Danault

These 4 were soooooo huge for your boys all year and especially during the playoffs. It will take some time to replace them.

I was glad to see Ryan Poehling finally play in Mtr last night, albeit 8 minutes. I still think he will be a player for your boys.
Poehling  
pjcas18 : 11/12/2021 4:16 pm : link
is their center of the future. Suzuki is a star in the making, I think Poehling can be a legitimate NHL regular (with upside).

I misspoke earlier in the thread, it was reported that Carey Price was seeking mental health treatment not substance abuse, that was not that case. Not that it matters.

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MONTREAL - Canadiens goaltender Carey Price released the following statement after returning to the team following his participation in the NHL/NHLPA player assistance program:

"Over the last few years I have let myself get to a very dark place and I didn't have the tools to cope with that struggle.

"Last month I made the decision to enter a residential treatment facility for substance use. Things had reached a point that I realized I needed to prioritize my health for both myself and for my family. Asking for help when you need it is what we encourage our kids to do. And it was what I needed to do.

"I am working through years of neglecting my own mental health which will take some time to repair; all I can do is take it day by day. With that comes some uncertainty with when I will return to play.

"I appreciate all of the overwhelming support and well wishes. I please ask that the media and our hockey community continue to respect our privacy at this time. Your support and respect of this so far has been a critical piece to my recovery."

-Carey
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pjcas18 : 11/14/2021 3:51 pm : link
theScore NHL
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Komarov leaves Islanders, signs in KHL https://thesco.re/30tPjiv
this is insane  
pjcas18 : 11/14/2021 10:08 pm : link
has there been a duo this good on a team with less success?

the last 82 games

Draisaitl: 52G - 68A - 120P
McDavid: 45G - 85A - 130P
RE: this is insane  
Jay on the Island : 11/15/2021 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15454180 pjcas18 said:
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has there been a duo this good on a team with less success?

the last 82 games

Draisaitl: 52G - 68A - 120P
McDavid: 45G - 85A - 130P

Just absolutely incredible performances from those two. It’s funny looking back at some who criticized Edmonton for giving big money to Draisaitl after they paid McDavid.
OTT  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2021 2:22 pm : link
dealing with the first widespread COVID outbreak that is impacting multiple games.

Next three Sens games postponed.

I understand the NHL considers game postponements a factor in their Olympic participation opt out.

Hate to say it, but I'd rather watch a fully-staffed Olympics than the NHL regular season.

OTT's postponements include both Rangers and Devils  
Mad Mike : 11/15/2021 2:29 pm : link
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This is a heavy weight bout  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2021 7:37 pm : link
not much landed, but no one wants to mess with Chara.

Chara and Maroon at puck drop.
link - ( New Window )
Tough break  
pjcas18 : 11/16/2021 10:12 am : link
fans hated him because he was in a trade for a fan favorite in Buchnevich, but he would have been a fan favorite himself IMO.

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INJURY UPDATE: #NYR forward Sammy Blais is done for the season due to a knee injury, per @NYP_Brooksie
and @renlavoietva
Is this weird? It seems weird?  
pjcas18 : 11/16/2021 4:05 pm : link
The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
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The Pittsburgh Penguins hockey team is in talks to be sold to Fenway Sports Group, owner of the Boston Red Sox, people familiar with the matter say https://on.wsj.com/3cl3cSl
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pjcas18 : 11/17/2021 4:10 pm : link
The Daily Goal Horn
@DailyGoalHorn
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#Isles lose top defenseman amid struggles, Pulock out 4-6 weeks
Caufield  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2021 3:04 pm : link
back up in MTL.

Flyers lose Ellis 4 - 6 weeks

Barkov week to week
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