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pjcas18 : 10/7/2021 7:50 am
just thought I'd start an NHL discussion thread - non-Rangers specific, but people can discuss any team (including the Rangers).

A lot of things to discuss:
1. Eichel activity picking up (LAK, NYR and LVG the rumored landing spots) I read yesterday it's beyond medicals at this point and the teams involved have seen them and are comfortable they have a treatment plan.

2. Two week pause in February for Olympics

3. Rule changes: not much, mainly just stricter enforcement of cross checking. Not sure how it will manifest, but my guess is two places - along the boards and in front of the net where cross checking has become almost an accepted method of play will become a penalty - early in the season expect a lot of those calls

4. Obviously COVID protocols, and cross border. The NHL has a lot of protocols for unvaccinated and fines or suspensions for missing those protocols, I'm not clear on all of them yet, but I do know in Canada if you are not vaccinated you cannot leave the team hotel for anything except team activities. Not sure if that's true in the US too.

Predictions? Expectations?
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Two Leafs  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 9:50 pm : link
rough up Gallagher and Josh Anderson winds up with the MTL penalty.

No idea how the refs saw that.

MTL no offense, no pressure, soft in their own end

now short-handed the rest of the game

I expect a lot of games like this
The Avs just blitzing the Hawks the first 10 minutes  
Stu11 : 10/13/2021 10:43 pm : link
3 goals and 14 shots. Rough Hawks debut for MAF.
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pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 10:45 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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Hearing the New York Islanders and Ryan Pulock have agreed to an 8 year extension. Just under $50 million total.
Isles have Pelech and Pulock  
Metnut : 10/13/2021 10:49 pm : link
locked up forever for $12M total annually. One of the top parings in the league and these kids are just entering their primes. Great job Lou.
RE: The Avs just blitzing the Hawks the first 10 minutes  
Scooter185 : 10/13/2021 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15412917 Stu11 said:
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3 goals and 14 shots. Rough Hawks debut for MAF.


If this keeps up MAF may retire after the game
Mason McTavish (ANA)  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2021 10:54 pm : link
#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.

RE: Mason McTavish (ANA)  
Metnut : 10/14/2021 8:26 am : link
In comment 15412925 pjcas18 said:
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#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.


Is he related to the guy who never wore a helmet back in the day?
RE: RE: Mason McTavish (ANA)  
Anakim : 10/14/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15413024 Metnut said:
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In comment 15412925 pjcas18 said:


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#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.




Is he related to the guy who never wore a helmet back in the day?


Craig, and no
RE: RE: Mason McTavish (ANA)  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 8:29 am : link
In comment 15413024 Metnut said:
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In comment 15412925 pjcas18 said:


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#3 pick in the 2021 draft makes his debut and scores.

The top 2 picks in the draft (Owen Power and Matty Beniers) are playing for Michigan in NCAA.




Is he related to the guy who never wore a helmet back in the day?


no, but I did check that too, but the other guy was spelled differently (Craig MacTavish)

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pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 11:36 am : link
Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
· 4m
Sources say #Sens are closing in on a seven year deal with winger Brady Tkachuk
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pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 11:39 am : link
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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Brady Tkachuk #Sens: 7 years, $57.5 million. ($8.214m AAV)
I hope the McAvoy contract is a painful one  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 1:51 pm : link

Spector's Hockey
@SpectorsHockey
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7m
#ICYMI An update on Vladimir Tarasenko, the #NHLBruins could be close to re-signing Charlie McAvoy, #Blackhawks GM addresses the Dylan Strome trade speculation and more on Vitali Kravtsov in today’s #NHL rumor mill. https://spectorshockey.net/2021/10/nhl-ru
I think this might be suspension  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 4:10 pm : link
worthy for Landeskog. I get his point, if the player has the puck or is trying to play the puck, what do you expect, so it's not cut and dried, but such a dangerous play.

And Kirby Dach missed all of last year in an early season hit I believe.
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good start  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 5:43 pm : link
Man I feel for the half dozen Buffalo fans  
Mike in NY : 10/14/2021 6:07 pm : link
I have seen pre-Vegas expansion teams with better rosters
that was quick  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 6:09 pm : link
NHL Player Safety
@NHLPlayerSafety
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10m
Colorado’s Gabriel Landeskog has been suspended for two games for Boarding Chicago’s Kirby Dach.
I think the BUF  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 6:54 pm : link
lineup is exponentially better than this one:

If MTL  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 7:50 pm : link
keeps playing like this defensively it doesn't matter if their roster is better than BUF or ARI they will be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes (which wouldn't be a terrible thing, but obviously as we have seen lately, no guarantees)
RE: If MTL  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2021 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15413828 pjcas18 said:
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keeps playing like this defensively it doesn't matter if their roster is better than BUF or ARI they will be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes (which wouldn't be a terrible thing, but obviously as we have seen lately, no guarantees)


Now down 4 - 1 to BUF, this may be a long year for the Habs.
Dougie Hamilton  
Jay on the Island : 10/15/2021 7:49 pm : link
scored 17 seconds into his debut with the Devils.
Just got home an watched the Devs game on dvr  
Stu11 : 10/16/2021 12:15 am : link
Lots of good. Horrific to blow a 3-1 lead in the last few minutes, just can't happen. However great to have Jack get that classic to end it in OT. That's just a play he wouldn't have had the patience to finish the past 2 years. His other goal was a classic goal scorer's goal to on the spin around. Obviously as Jay pointed out great debut for Hamilton. Mercer had a solid debut too. Devs have 5 in a row at home to start the season would be really huge for a young team if they got off to a great start.
Stu  
Jay on the Island : 10/18/2021 9:57 pm : link
The Utica Comets had their first game yesterday and Alexander Holtz did not disappoint. He had two beautiful goals with Reilly Walsh picking up 3 assists. Nico Daws, by far my favorite goalie prospects in the system, was excellent with 25 saves in the 6-2 win. That's the most exciting AHL roster the Devils have had since I began following hockey.
RE: Stu  
Stu11 : 10/19/2021 7:58 am : link
In comment 15420616 Jay on the Island said:
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The Utica Comets had their first game yesterday and Alexander Holtz did not disappoint. He had two beautiful goals with Reilly Walsh picking up 3 assists. Nico Daws, by far my favorite goalie prospects in the system, was excellent with 25 saves in the 6-2 win. That's the most exciting AHL roster the Devils have had since I began following hockey.

Yeah I saw that. I don't think Holtz will be down there long. He's gonna force the Devs hand. They always struggle for goals and they'll eventually have to bring him up especially if one of the top 6 gets hurt. Daws may have a strong future in the organization.I think they are starting to sour on Blackwood with the injuries and now the vaccination situation.
Heavyweight  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 6:18 pm : link
bout yesterday between Lucic and Deslauriers

Lucic looks like a cartoon character at this point.
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It's October 19  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 8:12 pm : link
and I'm done with hockey (not really but kind of), the Habs are absolutely brutal.

I wouldn't be shocked if Ducharme doesn't make it to November.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 9:38 pm : link
a league worst 0 - 4, with 3 goals scored in those 4 games. 15 allowed.

losses to BUF and SJS that were not close at all.
Devs Beat the Kracken 4-2 Dawson Mercer gets his 1st  
Stu11 : 10/19/2021 11:46 pm : link
Unfortunately the story of the night was Jack Hughes getting hurt. Tough play along the boards, Jeremy Lauzon followed through on a hit and lifted him off his skates. Injured his shoulder falling hard. Not a dirty hit and Ruff said so in his presser, but I don't like lifting a guy off his skates in such close proximity. Especially since Lauzon lifted his own skate for leverage. Oh well Hockey is a tough game. Just hope Jack isn't out months. He was off to a flying start.
At least they have Bobrovsky at  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 8:45 am : link
a huge number for way too long

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NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
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Spencer Knight became the 11th goaltender in NHL history to win at least each of his first five regular-season games to start his career.


RE: At least they have Bobrovsky at  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2021 8:56 am : link
In comment 15422335 pjcas18 said:
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a huge number for way too long



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NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
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Spencer Knight became the 11th goaltender in NHL history to win at least each of his first five regular-season games to start his career.





Are they splitting time?
RE: RE: At least they have Bobrovsky at  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 8:59 am : link
In comment 15422343 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 15422335 pjcas18 said:


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a huge number for way too long



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NHL Public Relations
@PR_NHL
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Spencer Knight became the 11th goaltender in NHL history to win at least each of his first five regular-season games to start his career.







Are they splitting time?


for now, Knight is backing up Bob (but it's only been 3 games). Florida can win a stanley cup this year IMO

Kucherov  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 9:16 am : link
having surgery again, injured over the weekend.

again, placed on LTIR giving TBL 9.5M to play with. Eichel?

anyway, I am not convinced TBL repeats last year (don't forget I think CAR won the central, not TBL, TBL came in 3rd).

Without Kucherov and losing their 3rd line, I can see TBL struggle (hopefully)
....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2021 9:40 am : link
Thanks, and I agree on FL. I think CAR and TB are both a little weaker this year. FL has superior top-end talent to CAR.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15422404 BrettNYG10 said:
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Thanks, and I agree on FL. I think CAR and TB are both a little weaker this year. FL has superior top-end talent to CAR.


Still no clue why CAR traded Nedeljkovic. I don't hate Freddy Anderson, but Nedeljkovic was great.

I agree they regressed a little, but hey they are paying Kotkaniemi 6M for 3rd line production on a 1-year deal to screw the habs.

Still like them in the Metro.
Agreed.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2021 10:07 am : link
And I think Hamilton was a big loss.

(I also forgot CAR was back in the metro, lol)

I think the Atlantic is the superior division this year.
Yeah Florida is gonna have a great year  
Stu11 : 10/20/2021 10:13 am : link
Especially if Bob keeps playing like this. If he's on his game they probably have the best goaltending duo on the league. I think you guys are underestimating Carolina. To me they have a very 90's/2000's Devil's quality to them In that the system is the important thing. We always used to lose guys every off season but never missed a beat.
RE: Devs Beat the Kracken 4-2 Dawson Mercer gets his 1st  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2021 10:39 am : link
In comment 15422231 Stu11 said:
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Unfortunately the story of the night was Jack Hughes getting hurt. Tough play along the boards, Jeremy Lauzon followed through on a hit and lifted him off his skates. Injured his shoulder falling hard. Not a dirty hit and Ruff said so in his presser, but I don't like lifting a guy off his skates in such close proximity. Especially since Lauzon lifted his own skate for leverage. Oh well Hockey is a tough game. Just hope Jack isn't out months. He was off to a flying start.


Let's hope that it's not serious because losing Hughes is a massive blow to the Devils slim playoff chances. Everyone is wondering if Holtz will be called up to replace Hughes but I think the Devils will bring up Boqvist instead.
Hughes  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 11:10 am : link
looked like a completely different player.

Shows some players it makes sense to develop in the NHL others would never have grown like Hughes did being up against bigger, stronger players.

To use the cliche it seems like the game has slowed down for him.

Hope he's ok.

Contrast Hughes development with someone like his old friend and USNDTP linemate, Cole Caufield.

I also noticed Cole Caufield improved significantly in areas I didn't think he'd improve. I thought Cole would be *just* a sniper (which would have been fine) - Caufield's wrist shot is as good as I've seen, but I never expected his skating would improve the way it has. he is a legit burner out there now.

Caufield spent two years at Wisconsin in NCAA, Hughes spent 2 years in the NHL. Both got good outcomes (so far).
you want to add another example  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 11:22 am : link
Kirill Kaprizov, last year's Calder winner, though he was a 2nd round pick, in 2015, he spent 4 years in the KHL post draft before coming to NA and joining the Wild.

sometimes staying home as a 18-21 year old, the maturation years for some, makes sense.

He was 23 before he came over to the NHL.

Teams need to be flexible and fan bases need patience.
PJ definitely  
Stu11 : 10/20/2021 12:16 pm : link
Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.
RE: PJ definitely  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2021 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15422727 Stu11 said:
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Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.


agree. would have been cool to see if he went to Michigan (?) or wherever he committed to for NCAA how he'd be if he made his debut this year.

to clarify though, while I agree he had no business being in the NHL at 18, I had watched him play for years and his talent was clear as day, but seeing him on draft night looking like Kathryn Tappen's young son where she towered over him (in height and body lol) on the stage was a little I don't know jarring I guess. but maybe those two years in the NHL when he didn't belong there helped make him the (dominant) player we saw these first couple games.

RE: RE: PJ definitely  
Stu11 : 10/20/2021 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15422739 pjcas18 said:
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Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.



agree. would have been cool to see if he went to Michigan (?) or wherever he committed to for NCAA how he'd be if he made his debut this year.

to clarify though, while I agree he had no business being in the NHL at 18, I had watched him play for years and his talent was clear as day, but seeing him on draft night looking like Kathryn Tappen's young son where she towered over him (in height and body lol) on the stage was a little I don't know jarring I guess. but maybe those two years in the NHL when he didn't belong there helped make him the (dominant) player we saw these first couple games.

Good point. I do think Jack benefitted from being with the big team the summer after his first season when he noticably gained size and strength.
RE: PJ definitely  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15422727 Stu11 said:
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Hughes had no business being in the NHL as an 18 year old twig. They had to because he was such a hyped #1 overall.

True, I'm glad that it wasn't detrimental to his development. The Devils were wise to let Luke Hughes play at Michigan for this season. They can evaluate his performance in college and decide in a year whether he is ready for the NHL.
Sounds like worst case  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2021 10:49 am : link
avoided, no timetable given (other than when he will be re-evaluated) which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse.

New Jersey Devils
@NJDevils
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26m
#NEWS: Jack Hughes suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder and will not require surgery. He has begun physical therapy.

He will be re-evaluated next week.
RE: Sounds like worst case  
Stu11 : 10/21/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15423684 pjcas18 said:
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avoided, no timetable given (other than when he will be re-evaluated) which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse.

New Jersey Devils
@NJDevils
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#NEWS: Jack Hughes suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder and will not require surgery. He has begun physical therapy.

He will be re-evaluated next week.

Yeah not worst case scenario but don't think we'll see him before Thanksgiving.
RE: Sounds like worst case  
Jay on the Island : 10/21/2021 11:22 am : link
In comment 15423684 pjcas18 said:
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avoided, no timetable given (other than when he will be re-evaluated) which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse.

New Jersey Devils
@NJDevils
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#NEWS: Jack Hughes suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder and will not require surgery. He has begun physical therapy.

He will be re-evaluated next week.

Better than expected but still a little disappointing. I thought for sure that he broke his collarbone which would have kept him out 4-6 weeks.
Joel  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2021 7:52 pm : link
Edmunson likely out of the year to deal with personal matters (his father is sick).

MTL is in trouble. 2 top 4 D gone for the season, Price gone and they weren't a talented team before that.

They could really be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes, though the top 5 next year is absolutely loaded.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2021 9:39 pm : link
0 - 5 now. Of course Kotkaniemi scores in his return to MTL.

They scored 1 goal again, now have 4 goals in their 5 games.

They did have a goal called back that was a horrible goalie interference call IMO, but no offense at all.
Here is the goalie interference  
pjcas18 : 10/22/2021 12:12 pm : link
call, with skates outside the blue paint I have a hard time agreeing with this call.

If the goalie decides to skate up to the edge of the paint some contact with players is expected IMO.
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RE: Joel  
Jay on the Island : 10/22/2021 5:18 pm : link
In comment 15424355 pjcas18 said:
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Edmunson likely out of the year to deal with personal matters (his father is sick).

MTL is in trouble. 2 top 4 D gone for the season, Price gone and they weren't a talented team before that.

They could really be in the Shane Wright sweepstakes, though the top 5 next year is absolutely loaded.

Yea your team is looking pretty dreadful so far without those players. At least you have a real shot at Wright.
The Devils are in deep trouble as well  
Jay on the Island : 10/22/2021 5:22 pm : link
They looked very poor last night without Hughes. Ruff makes things so much worse by moving McLeod to the second line center role instead of Mercer and then after the first period moves Sharangovich to the 4th line with Gauthier and goon Geersten for some reason.

I still can't believe they hired Ruff over Gallant.
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