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Troy Aikman: Giants not in Dallas' Class

ChicagoMarty : 10/7/2021 12:15 pm
Is Troy right?

Would like to see Troy eat some humble pie Suday.
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Oh well  
BigBlueJ : 10/7/2021 12:18 pm : link
cancel Sunday I guess..


Love the underdog role... always.
Who cares?  
Giant John : 10/7/2021 12:19 pm : link
Has he ever thought otherwise? He’s a nobody.
well.....are they?  
Jints in Carolina : 10/7/2021 12:21 pm : link
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RE: well.....are they?  
BigBlueShock : 10/7/2021 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15402070 Jints in Carolina said:
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I guess we will find out Sunday, won’t we?
Cowboys may win Sunday  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2021 12:24 pm : link
but i dont think they are some great team, they have played well to start, but getting turnovers on defense has masked how bad that defense really is..

Their offense hides their defense very well
Not a provocative title  
gfinop : 10/7/2021 12:24 pm : link
Aikman did actually say that.

Didn't the consensus in 2020 have the Cowboys as a division contender last year? Weren't they also better on paper last year before Dak got injured?

Giants played them well the first game. Then the Defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd downs and Dalton completed 2 insane passes(or insane catches by the receivers) in the end to beat the Giants.

I hoping to be surprised but the Cowboys should win this game.

Alright, let's not say that  
ATL_Giants : 10/7/2021 12:25 pm : link
Troy Aikman is a nobody.

Dallas has proven a hell of a lot more than us this year, and coming from a great Dallas QB, this is not a sensational take.

I don't agree with him of course, but we've got a lot of work to do before we can brag on our own football chops.

When we win this Sunday, then the conversation will really open up.
duh...  
Producer : 10/7/2021 12:25 pm : link
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Nothing  
Thegratefulhead : 10/7/2021 12:26 pm : link
3-1 vs 1-3

What he supposed to say as an ex Cowboy QB?

Meh
RE: RE: well.....are they?  
Victor in CT : 10/7/2021 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15402074 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15402070 Jints in Carolina said:


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I guess we will find out Sunday, won’t we?


that's the correct answer.

1 thing that is worrisome is that the DAL OL looks to back on track. With that, the Giants ridiculous soft coverage schemes will be a recipe for disaster
A win this week  
JB_in_DC : 10/7/2021 12:28 pm : link
would be the sweetest Giants win since... when? Week 14 2016 (10-7 win vs the Cowturds)?
Loving  
Dukie Dimes : 10/7/2021 12:29 pm : link
The buildup to this weeks’ game. The more pressure and quality the giants face, the better we can truly assess where they are at. Bring on the cowboys, bucs, and chiefs. Love it. The giants aren’t getting to the Super Bowl anyway. Let’s see what they are made of.
BOOM  
WeekendLife56 : 10/7/2021 12:31 pm : link
we want this muthafucka
Whatever  
Bernie : 10/7/2021 12:31 pm : link
It's the Dallas Morning News and Aikman is royalty in Dallas. I would expect nothing less.
What class is Dallas in ???  
averagejoe : 10/7/2021 12:33 pm : link
What is their playoff record the last twenty year ???
Typical Aikman.  
CV36 : 10/7/2021 12:35 pm : link
If the Cowboys blow us out he told us so.
If it’s close Dallas played down to our level.
If we win the Cowboys had an off day and didn’t play as good as they should have.

Never been a fan.
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Danny Kanell : 10/7/2021 12:41 pm : link
He's right.
No and oddly it is because of the defense  
Capt. Don : 10/7/2021 12:42 pm : link
I dont have confidence that barring something self inflicted, our defense can get them off the field.
He's correct  
armstead98 : 10/7/2021 12:43 pm : link
Giants barely eeked out a win against a .500 team while Dallas has been beating good teams and their only loss is to the SB champs.

While I'm as hopeful as anyone here that the Giants are turning it around, they haven't done it yet so I think it's fair to say they're not on the Cowboys level.

Now who knows, maybe the Giants have made the leaps we want and they pull out a win (I'd bet the Giants cover at least), but until they start beating good teams they won't get any credit.
He's right  
ZogZerg : 10/7/2021 12:44 pm : link
But, it's a division game, so anything can happen.
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Go Terps : 10/7/2021 12:44 pm : link
I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.

RE: .  
Bergen346 : 10/7/2021 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:
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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.


do you enjoy being miserable?
First of all, its his opinion and he's entitled to it. Who cares  
mikeinbloomfield : 10/7/2021 12:48 pm : link
He was talking to a Dallas Newspaper. What's he going to say, they stink?

FO rates the Cowboys as the second best team in the league. They've been as good as predicted on offense and surprisingly "better than average" on defense. If the Giants win, it'll be because the Giants defense plays much better than they have, or the Dallas defense plays significantly worse.
Hopefully  
Toth029 : 10/7/2021 12:48 pm : link
Shepard is back because he and Toney can rip apart their other guys if they feel Diggs can handle Golladay.
RE: He's correct  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2021 12:49 pm : link
In comment 15402111 armstead98 said:
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Giants barely eeked out a win against a .500 team while Dallas has been beating good teams and their only loss is to the SB champs.

While I'm as hopeful as anyone here that the Giants are turning it around, they haven't done it yet so I think it's fair to say they're not on the Cowboys level.

Now who knows, maybe the Giants have made the leaps we want and they pull out a win (I'd bet the Giants cover at least), but until they start beating good teams they won't get any credit.


Dallas beat a chargers team that was going into score and the refs made 1 of the worst calls i ahve ever seen..

They beat a terrible eagles team

they beat the Panthers who didnt have Mccaffrey and their top corner..
RE: RE: .  
Go Terps : 10/7/2021 12:49 pm : link
In comment 15402114 Bergen346 said:
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In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:


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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.




do you enjoy being miserable?


How is that miserable?
He’s obviously wrong!  
trueblueinpw : 10/7/2021 12:51 pm : link
I read right here that everything wrong with the Giants for the past decade was fixed last week in New Orleans.


/end ({douche_snark} sarcasm)

RE: RE: RE: .  
JB_in_DC : 10/7/2021 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15402121 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15402114 Bergen346 said:


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In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:


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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.




do you enjoy being miserable?



How is that miserable?


I think I speak for everyone when I say I sincerely hope you lit your money on fire.
I mean...  
Johnny5 : 10/7/2021 12:53 pm : link
... it's hard not to agree with him. I have watched the Cowboys this year, and they are clicking right now. OL and run game look terrific which is a bad matchup for our defense. And they have been getting good pressure on QBs (and Diggs has been an INT machine likely due to that as much as skill). Our OL really has to do well and prove that they can handle stunts and blitzes or we are in for a long game.

That said, any given Sunday. I don't think the Giants are that far behind but we need still better OL play and some kind of edge rush to be in their class.
we know he isn't wrong...  
EricJ : 10/7/2021 12:54 pm : link
... and if we think our team sucks as well, then why are his comments an issue?
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Dnew15 : 10/7/2021 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:
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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.


In a surprise to literally no one :)
They aren't  
Mike from Ohio : 10/7/2021 12:57 pm : link
But that doesn't mean they won't win Sunday.

Why do people look for things to make them upset?
RE: .  
joeinpa : 10/7/2021 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:
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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.


Terps I read your posts, respect your take, but you lost a little cred last week when you said Daniel s performance wasn’t impressive.

You might be right about a blow out this week, but I m thinking Giants surprise you.
I think it is a fairly close matchup  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/7/2021 12:57 pm : link
I am putting the game on Judge. He blew the WFT game and this is a great opportunity to make up for it. D steps up and the O continues the momentum AND limits turnovers this is a 4th QTR game. Who makes the plays then will win.

Kind of wish those 90 Dallas teams had to contend when the NFCE was the Beast. Jimmy Johnson picked NO by ten points last week.
Giants (espec Jones)  
JonC : 10/7/2021 12:59 pm : link
need to enter this game with high confidence, and build off the end of the NO game.

Show up and play the way they have for most of the rest of the season (mental errors, penalties, dumb stuff bad RZ play by the offense, not enough crucial stops by the defense) then yes, Troy's likely to be proven correct.

Which NYG shows up? They usually get Dallas's best shot ...
The Giants have proved nothing to think differently  
larryflower37 : 10/7/2021 12:59 pm : link
This is not earth-shattering information.
The Giants are 1-3 and have not played a complete game yet.
Dallas is firing on all cylinders and as much as I hate to say it is the best team in the division by a big margin.
Giants are the worst team in football over the last 3 years.
RE: Who cares?  
Joey in VA : 10/7/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15402069 Giant John said:
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Has he ever thought otherwise? He’s a nobody.
Hall of famer, Super Bowl winner, assigned to the top Fox game every week. Yeah he's a nobody. Dislike him all you want but the guy is hardly a nobody.
RE: .  
ryanmkeane : 10/7/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:
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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.

Well, if anything you are consistent from your Saints prediction.
RE: The Giants have proved nothing to think differently  
joeinpa : 10/7/2021 1:04 pm : link
In comment 15402152 larryflower37 said:
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This is not earth-shattering information.
The Giants are 1-3 and have not played a complete game yet.
Dallas is firing on all cylinders and as much as I hate to say it is the best team in the division by a big margin.
Giants are the worst team in football over the last 3 years.


Giants last three seasons, have nothing to do with this one
We have to play our nest game  
Carl in CT : 10/7/2021 1:05 pm : link
Also need to win the turnover battle by maybe 2. If they run it down our throats our D will be shot in 4th qtr.
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Go Terps : 10/7/2021 1:06 pm : link
In comment 15402146 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15402113 Go Terps said:


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I got Dallas to win by 19-24 points at +725.

Prescott is playing his ass off, and Diggs is playing like the defensive player of the year.

Dangerous game.




Terps I read your posts, respect your take, but you lost a little cred last week when you said Daniel s performance wasn’t impressive.

You might be right about a blow out this week, but I m thinking Giants surprise you.


I'm not going to lose sleep over that. I'm also not going to go nuts over that performance. He played well, but man have standards fallen when we go nuts over a 27-21 win to move to 1-3 on the year. Winning NFC player of the week was a joke, too - did you see Kyler Murray in LA?

I hope Jones keeps it up. I really do. But I'm going to need to see a lot more to be convinced he's the guy. Turn the season around and get in the playoffs. Otherwise go away.

Maybe the Giants surprise in Dallas. I don't know. What I do know is that through four games Dallas is two classes ahead of the Giants at least - which is why a close game would be a surprise.

This place is a yo-yo. Go back and read the New Orleans game thread through the third quarter. See how people were feeling then. One good half quarter of football and now people are feeling strong? Ok.

Go string some wins together. Make the playoffs.
Only here  
Joey in VA : 10/7/2021 1:08 pm : link
Would people disagree with such an obvious commentary. They are more accomplished and talented across the board, at every single position. We won ONE game and we are all of the sudden some juggernaut that commands respect. We beat a team with gimmicky QBs and a ton of injuries and now we're the 85 Bears. Can we win? Sure we can, is it likely? Nope.
RE: I mean...  
eric2425ny : 10/7/2021 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15402134 Johnny5 said:
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... it's hard not to agree with him. I have watched the Cowboys this year, and they are clicking right now. OL and run game look terrific which is a bad matchup for our defense. And they have been getting good pressure on QBs (and Diggs has been an INT machine likely due to that as much as skill). Our OL really has to do well and prove that they can handle stunts and blitzes or we are in for a long game.

That said, any given Sunday. I don't think the Giants are that far behind but we need still better OL play and some kind of edge rush to be in their class.


Well said, 100% agree. The duo of Elliott and Pollard has really been working for them the past few weeks. And if you shut down the run they hit you with the pass with Lamb, Cooper, and now Schultz playing really well.

I honestly don’t expect us to win this one, but I’m hoping we at least keep it interesting.
Dallas and the word Class  
Koffman : 10/7/2021 1:11 pm : link
Should not be used in the same sentence. The organization hasn't had any class since Tom Landry was coach. Aikman and Buck gan give each other back massages in the booth this Sunday like they usually do.
Is Dallas better?  
Carl in CT : 10/7/2021 1:11 pm : link
Yup! Forget penalities for now but look at this the Giants are 3rd in the nfl in dropped passes. Also have 7 more drops than Dallas through 4 weeks. We need this to turn around.
By construction, Dallas has always been a collection of talent  
UberAlias : 10/7/2021 1:14 pm : link
Forever we've been hearing things like "most talented team in the league". There is a big gap between NYG and Dallas in terms of talent. But that team in big D has much to prove themselves in terms of putting it together and making a run. That being said, we'll need a lot of things going our way to overcome the roster gap and pull out a win. It's possible, but small margin for error.
Bulletin board material  
mattlawson : 10/7/2021 1:15 pm : link
Just like 2007-8. Please god he's announcing Sunday right? Shove it up his and their ass at the same time.
I usually like Troy's takes and think he tries to be impartial.  
Dinger : 10/7/2021 1:23 pm : link
He is responding to a hometown paper so I'll take that into consideration. I HATE the 'not in the same class' take. Up until 5pm Sunday were we in New Orleans 'class'. If he says we match up horribly with Dallas, I'll agree mores that putting any team in a class right now considering that in any given year there are typical only 3 or 4 elite teams and even they get beat on an off weekend. That said, Dak seems to be back, Elliott is having a good season and they have an opportunistic defense. We don't match up well as we haven't stopped the run, we havent taken advantage of turnovers or opportunities for turnovers and Dak always seems to have our number. Lets play the game though and see how we do. At least its not a Sunday, Monday or Thursday NIGHT game.
At the moment Dallas is better and  
Big Blue '56 : 10/7/2021 1:26 pm : link
should win on Sunday. Troy should stay classy. You wouldn’t hear that from Eli, ever.
RE: Who cares?  
PwndPapi : 10/7/2021 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15402069 Giant John said:
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Has he ever thought otherwise? He’s a nobody.


Yeah. What's this nobody ever accomplished?
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