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Cowboys Missing Michael Gallup

LTIsTheGreatest : 10/8/2021 10:54 am
May not think so with all the weapons Cowboys have on offense but Gallup is a guy who has had big games against Giants the last couple of years. His absence could be big,as the Giants can play tighter coverage on Lamb and Cooper. Of course it will come down to how they contain Elliot and Dak's ability to scramble and extend plays, but Gallup is a big loss for them
Gallup  
pjcas18 : 10/8/2021 10:59 am : link
isn't completely insignificant, but in his career vs the Giants is not what you insinuate.

His numbers:

6 games, 21 catches 368 yards and 1 TD

average of: 3.5 catches for 61 yards and .15 TDs

He had over 5 catches and/or 100 yards once - in 2019.

I think they will survive.
Cooper will be the bigger one  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2021 11:03 am : link
if he is hobbled at all becaise of the hamstring that will effect their offense because he takes so much attention..

Cee Dee Lamb is a home run guy, he can take a 2 yard screen and go the distance but he has a lot more room to operate because of cooper
I'm more worried about Shultz  
bLiTz 2k : 10/8/2021 11:13 am : link
And Pollard than whoever their WR2 is. Gallup is a good player but honestly it doesn't move the needle in terms of their ability to move the ball and score.

Cedric Wilson  
ChicagoMarty : 10/8/2021 11:23 am : link
has flashed for the Pokes since Gallup went down
3 keys for the defense IMHO ...  
Spider56 : 10/8/2021 11:28 am : link
1. Stop Elliott
2. Contain the TEs over the middle
3. Get to Dak early and often
You  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 11:30 am : link
know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.
RE: Cedric Wilson  
fanatic II : 10/8/2021 11:36 am : link
In comment 15403078 ChicagoMarty said:
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has flashed for the Pokes since Gallup went down


Wilson hasn't just flashed.

During his tenure with Dallas whenever he has been on the field he has produced. His problem has been injury and Gallup.

Next year Dallas will let Gallup go and sign Wilson as his cheaper replacement.
RE: You  
bLiTz 2k : 10/8/2021 11:37 am : link
In comment 15403085 Eric from BBI said:
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know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.


Yup
RE: You  
armstead98 : 10/8/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15403085 Eric from BBI said:
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know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.


I think the more accurate answer to this is Zeke and Pollard. They're averaging 5.3 ypc, best in the NFL, and 165 yards per game, 2nd best.

Pollard is running great this year, almost no drop off from Elliott.

This is a team that pounds the running game first and foremost. If the Giants can't stop it, then the WRs and TEs will be a secondary issue.
RE: RE: You  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 11:45 am : link
In comment 15403099 armstead98 said:
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In comment 15403085 Eric from BBI said:


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know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.



I think the more accurate answer to this is Zeke and Pollard. They're averaging 5.3 ypc, best in the NFL, and 165 yards per game, 2nd best.

Pollard is running great this year, almost no drop off from Elliott.

This is a team that pounds the running game first and foremost. If the Giants can't stop it, then the WRs and TEs will be a secondary issue.


Of course, and that's the emphasis of my game preview.

But go back and look at what Jarwin has done to us. He scored three touchdowns in one game against the Giants. I think he has scored in every game against the Giants that he has played.
RE: You  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/8/2021 11:47 am : link
In comment 15403085 Eric from BBI said:
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know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.


Schulz is their new hot target, picked him up in fantasy this week. He’s a better pass catcher than Jarwin.
RE: RE: You  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 11:50 am : link
In comment 15403111 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15403085 Eric from BBI said:


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know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.



Schulz is their new hot target, picked him up in fantasy this week. He’s a better pass catcher than Jarwin.


No shit.

But the back-up TE has killed us against the Cowboys.

Jarwin missed both Giants games in 2020.

But he scored a TE in both Giants games in 2019.

He scored three touchdowns against the Giants in 2018.

Again  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 11:54 am : link
you guys are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying Jarwin is their biggest threat. I'm saying he's the guy who kills us when we are focused on other things.


Cowboys Could Feature TE Blake Jarwin over Dalton Schultz Vs. Giants - ( New Window )
RE: 3 keys for the defense IMHO ...  
M.S. : 10/8/2021 11:57 am : link
In comment 15403083 Spider56 said:
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1. Stop Elliott
2. Contain the TEs over the middle
3. Get to Dak early and often

#3? How???
RE: Cooper will be the bigger one  
Amtoft : 10/8/2021 11:59 am : link
In comment 15403055 nygiants16 said:
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if he is hobbled at all becaise of the hamstring that will effect their offense because he takes so much attention..

Cee Dee Lamb is a home run guy, he can take a 2 yard screen and go the distance but he has a lot more room to operate because of cooper


I actually think we have the CBs to match up well against Dallas. With Bradberry on Cooper and Jackson on CeeDee... We should even be able to cover the TEs well with Logan Ryan and Xavier, but I still get TE PTSD with Dallas.

To me the real questions to me are can we stop Elliott who has been playing well. We don't look very good stopping the run right now. Plus can we get any pressure and make some big plays on Defense.
Get them 2nd and 3rd and long  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2021 12:00 pm : link
also offense has to get up early, forcing thwm to throw more is a win for the giants, they are best when they are running well nd passing off play action
Using what Jarwin did two years ago isn’t exactly using relevant data.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/8/2021 12:01 pm : link
New DC in town. Obviously he’s a threat considering our history but I’d be way more concerned with Schulz. That dude is electric for a TE. Either way that side of the ball isn’t winning us this game unless they can come up with turnovers. It’s the only real way you can stop that offense because it’s so balanced. It’s not like we have elite pieces all over this defense.
RE: RE: Cooper will be the bigger one  
bLiTz 2k : 10/8/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15403132 Amtoft said:
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In comment 15403055 nygiants16 said:


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if he is hobbled at all becaise of the hamstring that will effect their offense because he takes so much attention..

Cee Dee Lamb is a home run guy, he can take a 2 yard screen and go the distance but he has a lot more room to operate because of cooper



I actually think we have the CBs to match up well against Dallas. With Bradberry on Cooper and Jackson on CeeDee... We should even be able to cover the TEs well with Logan Ryan and Xavier, but I still get TE PTSD with Dallas.

To me the real questions to me are can we stop Elliott who has been playing well. We don't look very good stopping the run right now. Plus can we get any pressure and make some big plays on Defense.


Right now, McKinney is just a name. He has been anywhere from "not good" to almost downright bad. He's out of position, missing tackles, and making a ton of mistakes in coverage.

In terms of Ryan, he has no business covering any TE in man coverage. He's most effective in that center field role.

Love may actually be the best option out of the safety room to cover any TE right now. Until McKinney comes around, he's just a name on paper...that unit has not been a strength in this area.
I'll also add that Darnay Holmes has  
bLiTz 2k : 10/8/2021 12:13 pm : link
essentially been benched the last 2 weeks. Against the Falcons they played Rodarius Williams in nickel sets over him (albeit on the boundary), and last week we saw Love exclusively in as the nickel corner against the Saints.

The Giants want to play more 2 high man coverage, and they likely view him as a liability there.

If I'm graham I go back to what worked in 2020. Get back to the Cover 3 looks with creative zone drops. Holmes is better there, and it frees up how you can use guys like McKinney and Love. We'll see.
RE: Using what Jarwin did two years ago isn’t exactly using relevant data.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 12:13 pm : link
In comment 15403138 Zeke's Alibi said:
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New DC in town. Obviously he’s a threat considering our history but I’d be way more concerned with Schulz. That dude is electric for a TE. Either way that side of the ball isn’t winning us this game unless they can come up with turnovers. It’s the only real way you can stop that offense because it’s so balanced. It’s not like we have elite pieces all over this defense.


You're just not getting it.

And it just wasn't two years ago.
RE: RE: Using what Jarwin did two years ago isn’t exactly using relevant data.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/8/2021 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15403158 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15403138 Zeke's Alibi said:


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New DC in town. Obviously he’s a threat considering our history but I’d be way more concerned with Schulz. That dude is electric for a TE. Either way that side of the ball isn’t winning us this game unless they can come up with turnovers. It’s the only real way you can stop that offense because it’s so balanced. It’s not like we have elite pieces all over this defense.



You're just not getting it.

And it just wasn't two years ago.


Not getting what? That Jarwin had success 2 and 3 years ago and we’ve constantly sucked against TEs? I just think Schulz needs to be the higher priority for obvious reasons. And yeh Jarwin has a good chance of scoring a TD because the Cowboys are so balanced on offense and have talent everywhere. Can’t cover everyone. I’m not expecting the defense to make too many stops in this one, but I’m pretty confident we won’t have much chance if we decide to play two high and let the run game and tight ends kill us. Need to be more aggressive and hopefully get some turnovers and let the offense try to win it. Not sure we see that though.
Blake Jarwin lights up when he sees the Giants  
Rick in Dallas : 10/8/2021 12:19 pm : link
He plays like an All Pro TE against the Giants.
The Cowboys offense is just a bad matchup for our current defense.
Zeke's Alibi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 12:21 pm : link
How is this that difficult?

Don't fall asleep against Jarwin.

The difference in a close game is between a FG and a TD.

Jarwin has five touchdowns against the Giants in two seasons. That's Witten like.
RE: Zeke's Alibi  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/8/2021 12:28 pm : link
In comment 15403166 Eric from BBI said:
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How is this that difficult?

Don't fall asleep against Jarwin.

The difference in a close game is between a FG and a TD.

Jarwin has five touchdowns against the Giants in two seasons. That's Witten like.


Because in my mind that’s what makes the Cowboys offense unreal. They can beat whatever you throw at them and they’ve shown patience to stick with what you are giving them defensively. Against the Bucs they barely ran the ball which was smart. Personally I’m making Lamb and Cooper beat me, make Lamb consistently catch the ball and hopefully your highly paid secondary holds up. I don’t want to see a defensive approach where we leave the offense on the field ten minutes and let the run game and tight ends kill us. I picked up Schulz because he’s going to do damage regardless but Jarwin production is going to be really dependent on what we do schematically. Personally I still think he has a big day because we are favoring two high this year vs Last year was a lot of cover 3.
Zeke's Alibi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 12:37 pm : link
You're still not getting it.

You're arguing the obvious.
Schultz  
BlueHurricane : 10/8/2021 12:52 pm : link
Anytime TD scorer. Easy money
RE: Zeke's Alibi  
Joey in VA : 10/8/2021 12:58 pm : link
In comment 15403183 Eric from BBI said:
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You're still not getting it.

You're arguing the obvious.
You will have better luck arguing with a coat rack.
You aren't getting it, so we throw resources to stop at Jarwin  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/8/2021 1:18 pm : link
who is probably their 6th most dangerous guy at the expense of what leaving Schulz open? Playing single coverage one both outside guys? Playing quarters and just letting Zeke and Pollard dominate? There aren't any good answers here.

The offense is going to have their way with us. They are just that good offensively. The focus needs to be on tackling and turnovers. Have no problem to see us getting into gamble mode on that side of the ball. Will we see it? Probably not, but that's the way I'd play it. This game is going to have to be won by the offense and trying to creat turnovers on defense.
RE: You aren't getting it, so we throw resources to stop at Jarwin  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2021 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15403207 Zeke's Alibi said:
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who is probably their 6th most dangerous guy at the expense of what leaving Schulz open? Playing single coverage one both outside guys? Playing quarters and just letting Zeke and Pollard dominate? There aren't any good answers here.

The offense is going to have their way with us. They are just that good offensively. The focus needs to be on tackling and turnovers. Have no problem to see us getting into gamble mode on that side of the ball. Will we see it? Probably not, but that's the way I'd play it. This game is going to have to be won by the offense and trying to creat turnovers on defense.


No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

Holy shit.

Just keep a fucking eye on Jarwin.

Head meet wall.
Eric  
armstead98 : 10/8/2021 1:36 pm : link
It’s a good point, Dallas TEs have killled us as long as I can remember.

I think the issue is because they do so many other things well, especially run the ball. With a weak line backing corps the only way the Giants can slow them down is to sell out against the run, which means having the safeties close to the line and shooting the gaps. Inevitably that means the TE will get open, especially on play action.

Now you can tell the safeties to stay back and watch the TE before committing but that half second is all these RBs need to get their 5ypc and gouge is all day long.

It’s a pick your poison situation and why Dallas is going to rack up points. I think if the Giants win this it’ll be because they win the turnover battle and the offense puts up TDs instead of FGs.
RE: You  
clatterbuck : 10/8/2021 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15403085 Eric from BBI said:
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know who the Giants need to stop?

Fucking Blake Jarwin.


Or anyone else that lines up at tight end.
RE: 3 keys for the defense IMHO ...  
BillT : 10/8/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15403083 Spider56 said:
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1. Stop Elliott
2. Contain the TEs over the middle
3. Get to Dak early and often

You're right but this defense hasn't shown the ability to do either no.1 or no.3. And no.2 is an issue as well.
I don't see getting to Dak early an often  
BSIMatt : 10/8/2021 2:33 pm : link
Unless Graham brings something special he cooked up that we haven't seen the first 4 weeks. This is the best offense we've faced and if we play soft zone like we have been with safeties back, they will oblige and pound their backs. Giants have been blitzing(at the same rate they did a year ago, and they are in top 10 in blitz%), it just hasn't been working.

Dak has been getting the ball out fast, he's been working shorter/quicker stuff and the ball is just coming out quick.

I still think the secondary is pretty solid, but they need more juice up front, they don't have enough pass rushers. Next year we'll be shopping for pressure players again. Wish Elerson could get some looks this year.
RE: RE: 3 keys for the defense IMHO ...  
Spider56 : 10/8/2021 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15403252 BillT said:
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In comment 15403083 Spider56 said:


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1. Stop Elliott
2. Contain the TEs over the middle
3. Get to Dak early and often


You're right but this defense hasn't shown the ability to do either no.1 or no.3. And no.2 is an issue as well.


I agree ... the 3 keys to winning have been our weakest links ... the odds would say the cowturds score 40 on us but every time I think this way, PG comes up with a plan that surprises me.
A couple of points  
Dave on the UWS : 10/8/2021 6:23 pm : link
I. Until proven otherwise, Bradberry has the look of a guy whose lost half a step - that’s a BIG problem.
2. For a guy who was a playmaker at Alabama, McKinney looks clueless.
3. The nose tackle position couldn’t hold the point against a beat up Saints line. How are they going to deal with Dallas?
4. Solder had been getting by needing help from. TE a LOT. If Thomas can’t go, and Peart starts, who do you help? Can’t be both.
I smell major ass kicking all over this one. (Like 38-10) hope I’m totally wrong.
It all starts with Dallas OL  
joe48 : 10/8/2021 9:59 pm : link
It helps them run the ball and Dak sits back with little pressure and will pick apart your defense. Giants don’t run block well and if they lose Thomas we are in big trouble.
We just have had too many bad drafts and do not have the quality roster that Cowboys have built. You can’t teach talent.
TE  
GF1080 : 10/10/2021 11:05 pm : link
Blake Jarwin a no show today. Guess we didn't really need to worry about him...
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