Daniel Jones throws 24 tds in 13 games as a rookie but he sux. Mac jones walks down a hallway at the draft and he's the next tom Brady. Time for reality there nfl world. Not everything belichick touches turns to gold and walking with swag down a hallway doesn’t ensure nfl qb success.
Some of us aren’t even Daniel jones apologists more just annoyed with the uneven and bias analysis from far too many.
seriously outplaying Mac Jones. I think Mac has been overrated.
The guy has been playing on an offense that had 4 new starters on the OL just this week. Nobody is succeeding in that type of situation. Not to mention the crap the Pats have on the outside.
seriously outplaying Mac Jones. I think Mac has been overrated.
The guy has been playing on an offense that had 4 new starters on the OL just this week. Nobody is succeeding in that type of situation. Not to mention the crap the Pats have on the outside.
And Mills is playing on the Texans, they're worse, and Tunsil is out. Get outta here with that weak shit.
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
The Bucs are the most stacked offense in the league, you don’t think that has anything to do with it. Antonio Brown technically doesn’t even start for them and the OL is rock solid. The Dolphins may be the worst team in the league.
are for most teams inside the 5. Very few teams can just pound it in. Takes play action, boots, reverses, all sorts of trickery to get that last yard. Not just the Giants, I’m seeing it all over. Not sure what to make of it.
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
The Bucs are the most stacked offense in the league, you don’t think that has anything to do with it. Antonio Brown technically doesn’t even start for them and the OL is rock solid. The Dolphins may be the worst team in the league.
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
is looming large in this Pats game. I still don't know how the refs had enough information to overturn the TD. That was so close I thought it would stand.
is looming large in this Pats game. I still don't know how the refs had enough information to overturn the TD. That was so close I thought it would stand.
is looming large in this Pats game. I still don't know how the refs had enough information to overturn the TD. That was so close I thought it would stand.
I had eyes on a different game and saw a piece of it. I wonder if BB is punishing him. Will Rhamondre get his big shot?
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
Brady was an elite QB once upon a time but I’d never even call him the best in the league. Those honors go to Peyton and Aaron. Of course having a good QB for the Bucs who doesn’t turn the ball over and actually SPREADS it around matters.
I just find it highly ducking annoying everything is on the QB whether success or failure when there’s a bunch of other shit that matters just as much.
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
Brady was an elite QB once upon a time but I’d never even call him the best in the league. Those honors go to Peyton and Aaron. Of course having a good QB for the Bucs who doesn’t turn the ball over and actually SPREADS it around matters.
I just find it highly ducking annoying everything is on the QB whether success or failure when there’s a bunch of other shit that matters just as much.
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Put 10 QBs right now in that Bucs offense right now and you are getting the same results, but once again all the mouth breathers want to give all the credit to the QB. It’s annoying. Evans Godwin and Brown is the greatest trio of WRs of all time. Their TE group is stacked, ditto for RB room and the OL is great. Better than the Boys and unlike them can actually hang their hat on stuff on defense.
RE: RE: That Damian Harris fumble at the goal line...
is looming large in this Pats game. I still don't know how the refs had enough information to overturn the TD. That was so close I thought it would stand.
Agree. Unless they saw something we didn’t
It was such a bang-bang play. And those usually mean the call stands.
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Put 10 QBs right now in that Bucs offense right now and you are getting the same results, but once again all the mouth breathers want to give all the credit to the QB. It’s annoying. Evans Godwin and Brown is the greatest trio of WRs of all time. Their TE group is stacked, ditto for RB room and the OL is great. Better than the Boys and unlike them can actually hang their hat on stuff on defense.
Love you try to take the high ground. I was referring to what you said about Brady never being the best. You're wrong. And it's a dumb comment.
Sure other QBs would have success but he manages to win. It is a thing. I don't think you know what Brady does well, physically, on the field, that makes him so good. He brings unique athletic traits, not just an intellectual mastery of the game. You don't know, what you don't know. try to listen a little more and stop insisting you are right, because you are often wrong. And your takes on Brady are ignorant.
Burrow is so good and they have dynamic play-makers.
I am loving Burrow. He doesn't have Herbert's transcendent arm talent and athletic traits, but he doesn't rattle, moves well and has enough arm to make most of the shots he finds. He has moxie.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Sure other QBs would have success but he manages to win. It is a thing. I don't think you know what Brady does well, physically, on the field, that makes him so good. He brings unique athletic traits, not just an intellectual mastery of the game. You don't know, what you don't know. try to listen a little more and stop insisting you are right, because you are often wrong. And your takes on Brady are ignorant.
Of course he’s managed to win, he has one of the greatest minds of football ever, the greatest OL coach in the history of football, and Ernie Adams and then when it’s time to cut tail he runs to the best team in the NFL with a another HOF coach.
Peyton and Aaron have always been the best QBs while Brady has been playing and I think it’s a toss up right now still with Rogers and Mahomes.
GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Sure other QBs would have success but he manages to win. It is a thing. I don't think you know what Brady does well, physically, on the field, that makes him so good. He brings unique athletic traits, not just an intellectual mastery of the game. You don't know, what you don't know. try to listen a little more and stop insisting you are right, because you are often wrong. And your takes on Brady are ignorant.
Of course he’s managed to win, he has one of the greatest minds of football ever, the greatest OL coach in the history of football, and Ernie Adams and then when it’s time to cut tail he runs to the best team in the NFL with a another HOF coach.
Peyton and Aaron have always been the best QBs while Brady has been playing and I think it’s a toss up right now still with Rogers and Mahomes.
It's not true. Brady had several years where he was obviously the best QB. You are ridiculously clueless as you insist on this point. And you lose credibility by tripling down - like a fool.
I love Burrow, I think he's my favorite young QB. Not sure if he's the best of all of them but I find him really fun to watch. Herbert's got better physical talent but I think Burrow will be better.
Whatever dude I’m done arguing with the QB is solely responsible for
I love Burrow, I think he's my favorite young QB. Not sure if he's the best of all of them but I find him really fun to watch. Herbert's got better physical talent but I think Burrow will be better.
I loved him at LSU. I thought his ability to improvise and move around to create big plays downfield was akin to Mahomes - without quite having Mahomes' rifle.
I love Burrow, I think he's my favorite young QB. Not sure if he's the best of all of them but I find him really fun to watch. Herbert's got better physical talent but I think Burrow will be better.
I loved him at LSU. I thought his ability to improvise and move around to create big plays downfield was akin to Mahomes - without quite having Mahomes' rifle.
I don't watch sufficient CFB - I only watch a few games a year, but I loved watching him in the playoffs his final year.
and a better season but watching Burrow shows Jones is a tier below top QB's talent wise and potential wise. Simply watching him maneuver the pocket and evade defenders is something I rarely see Jones do.
I love Burrow, I think he's my favorite young QB. Not sure if he's the best of all of them but I find him really fun to watch. Herbert's got better physical talent but I think Burrow will be better.
I loved him at LSU. I thought his ability to improvise and move around to create big plays downfield was akin to Mahomes - without quite having Mahomes' rifle.
I don't watch sufficient CFB - I only watch a few games a year, but I loved watching him in the playoffs his final year.
I don't usually either but I got caught up in his run that year and the SEC in general. He was magical. The game is slow to him. Very much like Mahomes without some of those great arm traits.
and a better season but watching Burrow shows Jones is a tier below top QB's talent wise and potential wise. Simply watching him maneuver the pocket and evade defenders is something I rarely see Jones do.
WFT converts a fourth and 14 at midfield that led to a TD. Why? Because the Saints only rushed three defenders. At least they missed the two point conversion.
Saints 27-22 with about 7:50 left in the fourth quarter.
straw man argument. Use your google machine and look it up. You lose by employing a dumb fallacy.
I lost because you said so, brilliant. You literally employed the “he just wins argument” and I imagine you are using him as an example of being the best because of stats.
Were talking about how clutch burrow was. I really Burrow but it’s hilarious how he was placed in the “he’s just got it” category. He’s thrown 2 awful picks today
kicker misses AGAIN. Hits the flag. The last time he hit the upright. Five missed FGs in the last eight minutes between him and Crosby. Go get a high school kicker.
Glad we didn't shell out serious coin for him.
When is the last time a team went 18 plays for 10 minutes against the Pats?
Heinecke showing you a QB CAN throw a deep out with a noodle arm as long as he’s accurate with good anticipation.
These players might as well just be called gladiator stunt men. Barrow got fucking rocked twice in the same hit.
And it didn't take 3 years for him to become the king.
Two TOs (INT and fumble) by Winston.
Roughed the punter on a fourth and forever that gave the WFT a first down.
Missed XP.
I could tell callaway had a read on it. The defense didn’t even react
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
Some of us aren’t even Daniel jones apologists more just annoyed with the uneven and bias analysis from far too many.
The guy has been playing on an offense that had 4 new starters on the OL just this week. Nobody is succeeding in that type of situation. Not to mention the crap the Pats have on the outside.
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seriously outplaying Mac Jones. I think Mac has been overrated.
The guy has been playing on an offense that had 4 new starters on the OL just this week. Nobody is succeeding in that type of situation. Not to mention the crap the Pats have on the outside.
And Mills is playing on the Texans, they're worse, and Tunsil is out. Get outta here with that weak shit.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
The Bucs are the most stacked offense in the league, you don’t think that has anything to do with it. Antonio Brown technically doesn’t even start for them and the OL is rock solid. The Dolphins may be the worst team in the league.
Why GB Cin & Miami TB?
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
The Bucs are the most stacked offense in the league, you don’t think that has anything to do with it. Antonio Brown technically doesn’t even start for them and the OL is rock solid. The Dolphins may be the worst team in the league.
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
yep prolly
Darnold also ain’t that guy
They have already wildly exceeded my expectations as I had them going 0-17. They are fucking up a lot of suicide pools so far.
Agree. Unless they saw something we didn’t
I had eyes on a different game and saw a piece of it. I wonder if BB is punishing him. Will Rhamondre get his big shot?
They better.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
Brady was an elite QB once upon a time but I’d never even call him the best in the league. Those honors go to Peyton and Aaron. Of course having a good QB for the Bucs who doesn’t turn the ball over and actually SPREADS it around matters.
I just find it highly ducking annoying everything is on the QB whether success or failure when there’s a bunch of other shit that matters just as much.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
Brady was an elite QB once upon a time but I’d never even call him the best in the league. Those honors go to Peyton and Aaron. Of course having a good QB for the Bucs who doesn’t turn the ball over and actually SPREADS it around matters.
I just find it highly ducking annoying everything is on the QB whether success or failure when there’s a bunch of other shit that matters just as much.
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
Eagles are quickly becoming hot garbage. Why can't they get Sanders more carries?
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Put 10 QBs right now in that Bucs offense right now and you are getting the same results, but once again all the mouth breathers want to give all the credit to the QB. It’s annoying. Evans Godwin and Brown is the greatest trio of WRs of all time. Their TE group is stacked, ditto for RB room and the OL is great. Better than the Boys and unlike them can actually hang their hat on stuff on defense.
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Agree. Unless they saw something we didn’t
It was such a bang-bang play. And those usually mean the call stands.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Put 10 QBs right now in that Bucs offense right now and you are getting the same results, but once again all the mouth breathers want to give all the credit to the QB. It’s annoying. Evans Godwin and Brown is the greatest trio of WRs of all time. Their TE group is stacked, ditto for RB room and the OL is great. Better than the Boys and unlike them can actually hang their hat on stuff on defense.
Love you try to take the high ground. I was referring to what you said about Brady never being the best. You're wrong. And it's a dumb comment.
Sure other QBs would have success but he manages to win. It is a thing. I don't think you know what Brady does well, physically, on the field, that makes him so good. He brings unique athletic traits, not just an intellectual mastery of the game. You don't know, what you don't know. try to listen a little more and stop insisting you are right, because you are often wrong. And your takes on Brady are ignorant.
My survivor pools hinge on it. Go Mac.
I am loving Burrow. He doesn't have Herbert's transcendent arm talent and athletic traits, but he doesn't rattle, moves well and has enough arm to make most of the shots he finds. He has moxie.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Sure other QBs would have success but he manages to win. It is a thing. I don't think you know what Brady does well, physically, on the field, that makes him so good. He brings unique athletic traits, not just an intellectual mastery of the game. You don't know, what you don't know. try to listen a little more and stop insisting you are right, because you are often wrong. And your takes on Brady are ignorant.
Of course he’s managed to win, he has one of the greatest minds of football ever, the greatest OL coach in the history of football, and Ernie Adams and then when it’s time to cut tail he runs to the best team in the NFL with a another HOF coach.
Peyton and Aaron have always been the best QBs while Brady has been playing and I think it’s a toss up right now still with Rogers and Mahomes.
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GOAT doesn’t begin to capture it. And he’s not even having a particularly good game, by his standards.
Yeah, 17-25, 236 yards, 3 TD's, no INT's...
In the 1st half.
While Belichick looks to be heading to 1-4.
Tell me who was more important to the NE dynasty...
You don’t think Tom has something to do with it? What more does he need to prove?
I hate Brady. I always preferred Manning and Peyton. But you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
I’d say you don’t know what you are talking about, but it’s clear you don’t.
Sure other QBs would have success but he manages to win. It is a thing. I don't think you know what Brady does well, physically, on the field, that makes him so good. He brings unique athletic traits, not just an intellectual mastery of the game. You don't know, what you don't know. try to listen a little more and stop insisting you are right, because you are often wrong. And your takes on Brady are ignorant.
Of course he’s managed to win, he has one of the greatest minds of football ever, the greatest OL coach in the history of football, and Ernie Adams and then when it’s time to cut tail he runs to the best team in the NFL with a another HOF coach.
Peyton and Aaron have always been the best QBs while Brady has been playing and I think it’s a toss up right now still with Rogers and Mahomes.
It's not true. Brady had several years where he was obviously the best QB. You are ridiculously clueless as you insist on this point. And you lose credibility by tripling down - like a fool.
And his comeback from that injury is nothing short of remarkable.
I loved him at LSU. I thought his ability to improvise and move around to create big plays downfield was akin to Mahomes - without quite having Mahomes' rifle.
straw man argument. Use your google machine and look it up. You lose by employing a dumb fallacy.
it's not actually happening. You are having a delusion. Because it is not possible for a great young QB to improve a bad team.
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I love Burrow, I think he's my favorite young QB. Not sure if he's the best of all of them but I find him really fun to watch. Herbert's got better physical talent but I think Burrow will be better.
I loved him at LSU. I thought his ability to improvise and move around to create big plays downfield was akin to Mahomes - without quite having Mahomes' rifle.
I don't watch sufficient CFB - I only watch a few games a year, but I loved watching him in the playoffs his final year.
They won a couple close ones, we lost a couple close ones. Don’t think there’s too much difference between the two.
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better than us this quickly? Their OL is not great, defense is nothing special, they have a good offense with weapons so I guess that's enough.
it's not actually happening. You are having a delusion. Because it is not possible for a great young QB to improve a bad team.
PSA: Don’t fall for the troll folks
But the stupid Vikings are going to ruin it instead.
Better drafting and draft positions.
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I love Burrow, I think he's my favorite young QB. Not sure if he's the best of all of them but I find him really fun to watch. Herbert's got better physical talent but I think Burrow will be better.
I loved him at LSU. I thought his ability to improvise and move around to create big plays downfield was akin to Mahomes - without quite having Mahomes' rifle.
I don't watch sufficient CFB - I only watch a few games a year, but I loved watching him in the playoffs his final year.
I don't usually either but I got caught up in his run that year and the SEC in general. He was magical. The game is slow to him. Very much like Mahomes without some of those great arm traits.
Good for the lions!
yes
Saints 27-22 with about 7:50 left in the fourth quarter.
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wins and stats crowd.
straw man argument. Use your google machine and look it up. You lose by employing a dumb fallacy.
I lost because you said so, brilliant. You literally employed the “he just wins argument” and I imagine you are using him as an example of being the best because of stats.
Darnold isn't good.
Don’t worry. He will play great against the Giants
I don't understand the run call there on 3rd down. Just baffling to want to settle for a 55+ FGA.
Yeah, it’s pretty wild.
but he rolls his eyes...
I have Vikes and NE in a parlay with TB and Ravens. I had given up on it
indeed
Saints miss ANOTHER XP.
33-22. Just over three minutes left in the game.
Unusual timing
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Unusual timing
I was referencing what someone said earlier on this thread. I don’t think that
He’s awful. I’ve defended him, but this is a brutal performance.
One of the worst kicking days I’ve seen in the NFL maybe ever
I dont think Crosby is missing another.
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Sam "Seeing Ghosts" Darnold.
He’s awful. I’ve defended him, but this is a brutal performance.
Yeah, I've seen enough of him. His ceiling is an mediocre starter at best, but probably an NFL back-up in the not so distant future...
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Sam "Seeing Ghosts" Darnold.
He’s awful. I’ve defended him, but this is a brutal performance.
Yeah, I've seen enough of him. His ceiling is an mediocre starter at best, but probably an NFL back-up in the not so distant future...
He is just good enough to be a low end NFL starter who might one day get lucky with a stacked team and have a couple of playoff runs.
This is some exciting shit