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EricJ : 10/10/2021 7:46 pm
well... if the season was not already over two weeks ago.. it is now
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I had a tooth extraction that was more fun than watching this game  
Producer : 10/10/2021 7:47 pm : link
They're not just bad, they're dull

Keep Toney and unload the rest.

ouch  
markky : 10/10/2021 7:47 pm : link
that sucked. injuries, loss of discipline, completely overmatched.

the only silver lining is KT. what a stud.
We are not a good team at full strength...  
EricJ : 10/10/2021 7:47 pm : link
but when you layer the injuries on offense and the really poor play of our defense, I am actually surprised it was close at halftime
Toney is DGs best pick  
Vanzetti : 10/10/2021 7:47 pm : link
He is already the best player on the Giants
Other than  
Daniel in MI : 10/10/2021 7:48 pm : link
Everyone on O being hurt and on D sucking, and being 1-4, I think we’re well positioned
Toney and Thomas are the goods  
redbeard : 10/10/2021 7:48 pm : link
Just need another 51 other guys and we could be onto something
I think one thing we can all agree  
Keaton028 : 10/10/2021 7:48 pm : link
on: Giants football hasn’t been fun for a long time. It sucks. Early October and watching the team is miserable. I don’t know what else to say. I used to be so die hard about this team, and they just sapped it out of me these last 8 or so years. Tired of blaming coaches and players. The brand isn’t fun to watch and hasn’t been for a long time.
Fire DG.  
Gmen703 : 10/10/2021 7:48 pm : link
Injuries suck.

Toney is legit so far.

Engram is a non factor.

Crowder shouldn't be a starter.

Our defense is going to make this a long season.

Fire JG.

Hope Jones and Saquon get well soon.

I miss anything?



Fun note  
Daniel in MI : 10/10/2021 7:49 pm : link
Maligned GM appears to hit on good QB, OT, and WR picks and we’re terrible.
The Joka is legit!  
trueblueinpw : 10/10/2021 7:50 pm : link
Obviously today was horrible. And we're pretty much out of the hunt now and its not even Halloween. But KT is for real!

I know it will seem like sour grapes - but how was that DPI not called on KT in the end zone? That was absurd. At some point, you can't just think these calls in Dallas are a coincidence.
I was so excited about starting a thread  
bceagle05 : 10/10/2021 7:50 pm : link
asking Eli what are winning streak was, and posting the gif of him giving the double birds. Oh well.
I  
AcidTest : 10/10/2021 7:50 pm : link
thought we'd lose badly, but wow, the injury report is unreal.

Got crushed again on the ground.
No pass rush.
Thought Peart played well. Solder did not.
The naked bootleg with Jones was dumb. Do the Booker dive instead.
Glennen looks like the guy I cheated off of during math tests  
Jalapeno : 10/10/2021 7:50 pm : link
But I like Glennen much better.

I think he did a a hell of a job given the situation he was handed.

"Here is a slab of baloney, go make a turkey sandwich"

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/10/2021 7:51 pm : link
Oh well. I'm hammered. I've seen two Super Bowl wins. I hope we're good by the time my daughter finishes high school in the 2030s.
All the money spent on the Defense  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/10/2021 7:52 pm : link
And this is what they produce?

Where's Williams??...
This should solely be a discussion about the defense  
Giantimistic : 10/10/2021 7:52 pm : link
Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.
RE: This should solely be a discussion about the defense  
Producer : 10/10/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15406800 Giantimistic said:
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Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.


oh really? You saw a good offense out there?
RE: Fun note  
FStubbs : 10/10/2021 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15406766 Daniel in MI said:
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Maligned GM appears to hit on good QB, OT, and WR picks and we’re terrible.


The team is horrible. And even Matt Millen (a worse GM than Gettleman) hit on picks here and there.
Another lost season  
DavidinBMNY : 10/10/2021 7:55 pm : link
This game was brutal. SIgh, draft time already. I only know 3 players, Olive, the Bama OL Neal and the Edge from the ducks, time to start studying the draft,
Does anyone remember  
k2tampa : 10/10/2021 7:56 pm : link
The last time the Giants ran play action on first and goal inside the 5?
RE: RE: This should solely be a discussion about the defense  
Keaton028 : 10/10/2021 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15406814 Producer said:
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Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.



oh really? You saw a good offense out there?


The Giants brand overall has been bad for so long. Why even argue anymore? It’s futile. Offense is bad, defense is bad. Management is bad. Injuries slay our better players. What is there to even argue about anymore? The team just sucks, and it had been bad since the last Super Bowl.
There's so much wasted money on this roster  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/10/2021 7:57 pm : link
Kyle Rudolph should be wearing a ski mask while he's out there.
Game  
Sammo85 : 10/10/2021 7:57 pm : link
was only close early on because of a lazy pass by Dak and a fumbled snap.

Injuries or not, Giants were not winning this game.

As for Barkley I feel for him, but if the Giants give him a big contract extension it will doom them for years.
RE: RE: This should solely be a discussion about the defense  
Giantimistic : 10/10/2021 7:57 pm : link
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Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.



oh really? You saw a good offense out there?


We lost our best running back, our QB, did not have our Starting LT who has been great. We lost our more receivers in the game. We have enough pieces to build on for our offense.
RE: Game  
DavidinBMNY : 10/10/2021 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15406853 Sammo85 said:
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was only close early on because of a lazy pass by Dak and a fumbled snap.

Injuries or not, Giants were not winning this game.

As for Barkley I feel for him, but if the Giants give him a big contract extension it will doom them for years.
New regime … DG won’t be the one making that decision.
X McKinney and adoree stink  
Payasdaddy : 10/10/2021 7:58 pm : link
Bradberry not even close to last yr
Really want to see A Robinson off PUP
Work in Elerson too. See what they got

Offense showing me something. Ross actually adds a dimension, toney is filthy
Saquon, freak roll up. Did same thing myself. If not torn, looks worse than it is. Could be a couple week injury

Glennon isn’t a bad back up. Can complete the throws he is suppose to
RE: Does anyone remember  
EricJ : 10/10/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15406842 k2tampa said:
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The last time the Giants ran play action on first and goal inside the 5?


My problem is the formation and personnel. I HATE stacking the box telegraphing a run. We already have a tough time running against the opponents front four. The last thing we need are the linebackers and safeties also up in there.

Spread the field to give us some options depending upon the defensive alignment. Then, run if you want to. You will have a better chance with our poor OL
Monday DOINK!  
Spider43 : 10/10/2021 8:00 pm : link
Where Colin Cowturd Was Wrong

The GMen are doodoo.
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Producer : 10/10/2021 8:00 pm : link
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Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.



oh really? You saw a good offense out there?



The Giants brand overall has been bad for so long. Why even argue anymore? It’s futile. Offense is bad, defense is bad. Management is bad. Injuries slay our better players. What is there to even argue about anymore? The team just sucks, and it had been bad since the last Super Bowl.


I want to watch entertaining winning football, and the people here want to make excuses and watch us baby projects for years. It's enough. I'm not making excuses for poor performance up and down and I'm going to call out fans who are blind to the dysfunction.

I like Toney and Thomas. That's it. We'll never win a SB with Jones, so what the hell are we doing with him?
This offense is going to have a 4th preseason game type of roster  
Anakim : 10/10/2021 8:01 pm : link
against the Rams next Sunday
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Zeke's Alibi : 10/10/2021 8:02 pm : link
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Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.



oh really? You saw a good offense out there?



The Giants brand overall has been bad for so long. Why even argue anymore? It’s futile. Offense is bad, defense is bad. Management is bad. Injuries slay our better players. What is there to even argue about anymore? The team just sucks, and it had been bad since the last Super Bowl.



I want to watch entertaining winning football, and the people here want to make excuses and watch us baby projects for years. It's enough. I'm not making excuses for poor performance up and down and I'm going to call out fans who are blind to the dysfunction.

I like Toney and Thomas. That's it. We'll never win a SB with Jones, so what the hell are we doing with him?


You once again prove you have no fucking clue what you are looking at when it comes to QB play past stats. What the fuck do I know I only played QB and called Toneys monster game today. JFC
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Go Terps : 10/10/2021 8:03 pm : link
They weren't winning this one regardless of injuries. Aikman's right...two different classes.

This Giants team isn't going anywhere but another rebuild. More wasted years.
RE: Fun note  
The_Boss : 10/10/2021 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15406766 Daniel in MI said:
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Maligned GM appears to hit on good QB, OT, and WR picks and we’re terrible.


The “hit” on Jones is TBD. Stop.
The giants skews  
DavidinBMNY : 10/10/2021 8:05 pm : link
And there defense continues to underwhelm,

The injuries were awful and there really is no fun watching this team. It’s a slog.

Hope the injured guys are able to get back on there feet soon. Take their time fretting in the field. Bark
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Producer : 10/10/2021 8:05 pm : link
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I want to watch entertaining winning football, and the people here want to make excuses and watch us baby projects for years. It's enough. I'm not making excuses for poor performance up and down and I'm going to call out fans who are blind to the dysfunction.

I like Toney and Thomas. That's it. We'll never win a SB with Jones, so what the hell are we doing with him?



You once again prove you have no fucking clue what you are looking at when it comes to QB play past stats. What the fuck do I know I only played QB and called Toneys monster game today. JFC


Yea ok.. You're happy with crap. I'm not. Why do you hate the Giants so much that you don;t want to see them win?
The D and DC  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/10/2021 8:05 pm : link
Are not very good. Need a honest assessment here. It’s not all DG.
Giants beat Cowboys last year  
bc4life : 10/10/2021 8:06 pm : link
For all the talk about Dallas D - before today's game they were ranked right in front of us re: stats.

Got an offense and a D that can take advantage of weaker teams.

Oh and fuck Aikmann
Defense is Offensive  
Jeffrey : 10/10/2021 8:07 pm : link
It’s shocking to see the drop off in play from the defense. Bradbury, Williams and A Jackson got rich this offseason. Does not look like money well spent. Graham is the DC who led the Dolphins to a league worst defense. To make matters worse the Bears are winning.
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 10/10/2021 8:07 pm : link
Too many dollars I’m the secondary - when it’s clear as day the best way to stop an NFL offense with today’s rules is to rush the passer
Anyone listening to the post game press conference??  
EricJ : 10/10/2021 8:07 pm : link
these reporters are horrible. Very few X's and O's questions or game related serious questions. Everything is about the drama.
Watching a season ending game in week 5  
DavidinBMNY : 10/10/2021 8:08 pm : link
Was terrible. I give them credit for being professional.

The injuries were awful. I can’t recall ever seeing swelling like Barkley’s ankle and Jones concussion was worse,
RE: RE: Fun note  
Daniel in MI : 10/10/2021 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15406837 FStubbs said:
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.The team is horrible. And even Matt Millen (a worse GM than Gettleman) hit on picks here and there.


Yes, but QB and LT are actual foundation building blocks. Key pieces. But yes. We still suck.
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ajr2456 : 10/10/2021 8:13 pm : link
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Should have gone into half again 10-10. Failure on scheme and in all regards on defense.



oh really? You saw a good offense out there?



The Giants brand overall has been bad for so long. Why even argue anymore? It’s futile. Offense is bad, defense is bad. Management is bad. Injuries slay our better players. What is there to even argue about anymore? The team just sucks, and it had been bad since the last Super Bowl.



I want to watch entertaining winning football, and the people here want to make excuses and watch us baby projects for years. It's enough. I'm not making excuses for poor performance up and down and I'm going to call out fans who are blind to the dysfunction.

I like Toney and Thomas. That's it. We'll never win a SB with Jones, so what the hell are we doing with him?



You once again prove you have no fucking clue what you are looking at when it comes to QB play past stats. What the fuck do I know I only played QB and called Toneys monster game today. JFC


At the NFL Level? Power 5 college at least?
RE: …..  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/10/2021 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15406928 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Too many dollars I’m the secondary - when it’s clear as day the best way to stop an NFL offense with today’s rules is to rush the passer


Worked in 2007/2011 for some reason we think the back end is more important.
If someone could have gone into future and told me we were  
fredgbrown : 10/10/2021 8:15 pm : link
gonna lose Barkley, Jones, Golladay and Thomas wasn't going to play I would have said Giants would lose game 38 - 10.
RE: Anyone listening to the post game press conference??  
bceagle05 : 10/10/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15406929 EricJ said:
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these reporters are horrible. Very few X's and O's questions or game related serious questions. Everything is about the drama.

Brutal. Of course it’s troll Pat Leonard digging in on Toney needing to grow up. What Toney needs to do is keep catching 10 passes for 189 yards, and the Giants need to find more Toneys.
Sadly, Aikman is right  
Dave on the UWS : 10/10/2021 8:15 pm : link
The Cowboys have a clue and purpose on offense. They are functional on D, even without top end talent.
The Giants are “searching” on offense and Graham is doing a terrible job on defense plus their self scouting of defensive talent is terrible
Would rather root for a dirty team  
Giants73 : 10/10/2021 8:17 pm : link
Than this soft ass team. Bunch of pu$$ie$ out there. Show some freakin heart. How many times does Ryan and Crowder have to get run over. McKinney thinks he can tackle people by standing with his arms out. So soft, no heart. Don’t make any effort to get back at the Cowboys for their cheap shots on defense. Just a joke. Judge just needs to be shown the door, and a coach with some nasty and not fake tough needs to get in here
Teams are running right on us  
hammock man : 10/10/2021 8:20 pm : link
and not meeting resistance for the first five yards. They are doing this at will. This should have been dealt with by now.
RE: RE: Fun note  
k2tampa : 10/10/2021 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15406901 The_Boss said:
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Maligned GM appears to hit on good QB, OT, and WR picks and we’re terrible.



The “hit” on Jones is TBD. Stop.


I guess you would have traded Eli after his third year.
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