I know I'm opening this up to people that hate him and will probably say he sucks if he has a game with one incompletion, 500 yards, and 5 TDs and they'll focus on that one incompletion, but if anyone can be objective was he as bad as it seemed early on or was it mostly on the O-line? I thought there were a couple of throws that got away from him (most notably the play Barkley got hurt on) but he was also under siege until that final drive where "shockingly" he was able to move the football and lead them on a TD drive. But it's tough to see 1 for 9 I won't lie. I thought it was a bit disappointing but also Solder did not give him any sort of pocket and he was running for his life. The O-line improved by Glennon got most of the benefit of that.
probably for the same reason any QB would be with Nate Solder at Left Tackle.
Daniel Jones was running for his life early on.
His rhythm and timing were obviously messed up.
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
probably for the same reason any QB would be with Nate Solder at Left Tackle.
Daniel Jones was running for his life early on.
His rhythm and timing were obviously messed up.
Solder’s guy pushed him right back to Jones on the play Barkley got hurt. That was a quick slant. If your OT can’t block that, he can’t block any play.
on the one possession where they were actually driving, he caps it off by getting his head smashed trying to muscle through two LBs. bad playcall sure, but slide there dude, jfc.
jones will miss time with injury every year due to shit like this.
not a winning recipe.
on the one possession where they were actually driving, he caps it off by getting his head smashed trying to muscle through two LBs. bad playcall sure, but slide there dude, jfc.
jones will miss time with injury every year due to shit like this.
not a winning recipe.
If he slid, you would be complaining he is a pansy and could of fought his way for a td..
and misisng your left tackle is a pretty big deal, just ask Patrick Mahomes
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Basically his errant throw initiated the quick sequence of events that led to Barkley’s injury. If a new regime comes in and quickly determines he’s not the guy, who am I to argue?
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
Are you fucking serious? You are become a caricature. The dB stuck his foot unde where Barkley was about to step? Hahahahaa
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Basically his errant throw initiated the quick sequence of events that led to Barkley’s injury. If a new regime comes in and quickly determines he’s not the guy, who am I to argue?
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
Are you fucking serious? You are become a caricature. The dB stuck his foot unde where Barkley was about to step? Hahahahaa
Maybe read what i responded to, it had nothing to do with the throw rhat caused him to get hurt, it happened after the play was over..go watch it again
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Basically his errant throw initiated the quick sequence of events that led to Barkley’s injury. If a new regime comes in and quickly determines he’s not the guy, who am I to argue?
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
If DJ hits a wide open Saquon he doesn’t get hurt and it’s a jolt the offense sorely needed at the time! The missed opportunity turned out to be least of our problems as a result. But that is the luck of this moribund franchise.
Jones gets the full year to show body of work and then decisions have to be made. Anybody trying to call him our future franchise QB right now is off base and anybody trying to end his tenure this season is premature without question.
Jones gets the full year to show body of work and then decisions have to be made. Anybody trying to call him our future franchise QB right now is off base and anybody trying to end his tenure this season is premature without question.
If he comes back and plays poorly, the apologists will say he never recovered. They are addicted to Daniel Jones. They donit care about the Giants.
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and it wasn’t just the offensive line.
Jones gets the full year to show body of work and then decisions have to be made. Anybody trying to call him our future franchise QB right now is off base and anybody trying to end his tenure this season is premature without question.
If he comes back and plays poorly, the apologists will say he never recovered. They are addicted to Daniel Jones. They donit care about the Giants.
And here he is...
You only count the good games, bw. The bad games don't count.
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and it wasn’t just the offensive line.
Jones gets the full year to show body of work and then decisions have to be made. Anybody trying to call him our future franchise QB right now is off base and anybody trying to end his tenure this season is premature without question.
If he comes back and plays poorly, the apologists will say he never recovered. They are addicted to Daniel Jones. They donit care about the Giants.
You are a ducking clown. It’s clear to me DJ can play but if it means cleaning out house and they want Malik (and only Malik) I’d support it.
You are just some retard who thinks everything is on the QB. You and that old fat fuck Peter King should grab coffee some time. I’m sure you’d get along swimmingly.
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against a better D, he looked equally as bad this week against a D of lesser quality.
You only count the good games, bw. The bad games don't count.
im sorry did he play a full game today? he started to get into a groove on the drive he got hurt, maybe he has a great rest of the game..
Is jones the answer? we dont know yet, but you also dont know that he isnt
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against a better D, he looked equally as bad this week against a D of lesser quality.
You only count the good games, bw. The bad games don't count.
im sorry did he play a full game today? he started to get into a groove on the drive he got hurt, maybe he has a great rest of the game..
Is jones the answer? we dont know yet, but you also dont know that he isnt
If he isn't the answer by now, then he isn't the answer.
I'm not saying it excuses his play completely but the play of the line was not the same in the two games.
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
I think he might be a dupe. His old handle was DallasFan69 or something. I'm not sure. But he definitely has an agenda.
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against a better D, he looked equally as bad this week against a D of lesser quality.
You only count the good games, bw. The bad games don't count.
im sorry did he play a full game today? he started to get into a groove on the drive he got hurt, maybe he has a great rest of the game..
Is jones the answer? we dont know yet, but you also dont know that he isnt
Exactly, he had a terrible quarter and a half but the line finally started to giving him and Glennon protection. You could argue that with bad protection he should still have looked better and that's fair but people are counting this as a full game.
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Basically his errant throw initiated the quick sequence of events that led to Barkley’s injury. If a new regime comes in and quickly determines he’s not the guy, who am I to argue?
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
Wrong. Papa even said so on the broadcast.
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
He must have not seen Mayfield against the Vikings.
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Basically his errant throw initiated the quick sequence of events that led to Barkley’s injury. If a new regime comes in and quickly determines he’s not the guy, who am I to argue?
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
Wrong. Papa even said so on the broadcast.
Said what? he didnt jump and come down on the db, he hurt it after the play was over
So glad you’re here man ... I know you’re busy giving bellichek advice on the upcoming game.
You’ve been saying this bullshit since gates got hurt and the oline has been better. They were certainly decent last week I don’t think gave up a sack this Dallas game
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against a better D, he looked equally as bad this week against a D of lesser quality.
You only count the good games, bw. The bad games don't count.
im sorry did he play a full game today? he started to get into a groove on the drive he got hurt, maybe he has a great rest of the game..
Is jones the answer? we dont know yet, but you also dont know that he isnt
Exactly, he had a terrible quarter and a half but the line finally started to giving him and Glennon protection. You could argue that with bad protection he should still have looked better and that's fair but people are counting this as a full game.
It wasn’t just bad it was legit awful. And it drives me nuts because there isn’t one fucking QB in the entire league that’s going to produce behind that and anyone else saying otherwise really has zero idea what they are talking about.
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Basically his errant throw initiated the quick sequence of events that led to Barkley’s injury. If a new regime comes in and quickly determines he’s not the guy, who am I to argue?
No it didnt the play was over and the DB ran over and stuck his foot right where Barkley was about to step on his way back to huddle
Wrong. Papa even said so on the broadcast.
Said what? he didnt jump and come down on the db, he hurt it after the play was over
Exactly what I posted. DJ’s errant throw led to Barkley’s injury.
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against a better D, he looked equally as bad this week against a D of lesser quality.
You only count the good games, bw. The bad games don't count.
im sorry did he play a full game today? he started to get into a groove on the drive he got hurt, maybe he has a great rest of the game..
Is jones the answer? we dont know yet, but you also dont know that he isnt
Exactly, he had a terrible quarter and a half but the line finally started to giving him and Glennon protection. You could argue that with bad protection he should still have looked better and that's fair but people are counting this as a full game.
It wasn’t just bad it was legit awful. And it drives me nuts because there isn’t one fucking QB in the entire league that’s going to produce behind that and anyone else saying otherwise really has zero idea what they are talking about.
People seem to forget what Patrick Mahomes lookrd like without his left tackle
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DG for….started at LT today. And rightfully so, he’s awful. It’s possible to play football with one awful tackle but not two unless your interior is stud like. There is one reasons the offense looked functional in second half and it’s because they were forced to use Toney. Plus the pass pro was actually better in second half but still far from good. Just tells you how bad it was In first half. Over and out retards.
So glad you’re here man ... I know you’re busy giving bellichek advice on the upcoming game.
You’ve been saying this bullshit since gates got hurt and the oline has been better. They were certainly decent last week I don’t think gave up a sack this Dallas game
What does last week have to do with this week. Is it any shocker DJ finally had league average type pass pro and found sucesss., All you retards are probably gonna be might upset we bring DJ back and draft 2 lineman In our first 3 picks
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
There’s more to than that. But I cannot remember an nfl qb with misses like those ;not three like that. It’s also year 3 jones is till doing reckless things and getting hurt. He’s still not throwing in tight windows in the red zone .. the fact he still doesn’t have an int yet. He is still playing with no balls and scared or throwing an int and on pace for another 11 TD season
I swear that some of you are so eager to prove your point so you can go jack off to your I am so right comments.
I like Jones a lot and I think he has what it takes. I was most concerned about his pocket presence but I see that improving too.
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
There’s more to than that. But I cannot remember an nfl qb with misses like those ;not three like that. It’s also year 3 jones is till doing reckless things and getting hurt. He’s still not throwing in tight windows in the red zone .. the fact he still doesn’t have an int yet. He is still playing with no balls and scared or throwing an int and on pace for another 11 TD season
Hard to throw passing TD’s when your OC calls 4 straight runs. What we need are TD’s when we get in red zone. I don’t care if they are running or passing as long as we get them.
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
There’s more to than that. But I cannot remember an nfl qb with misses like those ;not three like that. It’s also year 3 jones is till doing reckless things and getting hurt. He’s still not throwing in tight windows in the red zone .. the fact he still doesn’t have an int yet. He is still playing with no balls and scared or throwing an int and on pace for another 11 TD season
Hard to throw passing TD’s when your OC calls 4 straight runs. What we need are TD’s when we get in red zone. I don’t care if they are running or passing as long as we get them.
Did anyone stop to think there’s a very good reason why Garrett isn’t calling passes on that 3rd down. With Glennon a pick 6 in garbage time is no big deal. But when you’re “franchise “ QBs are doing it it could get real embarrassing
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
There’s more to than that. But I cannot remember an nfl qb with misses like those ;not three like that. It’s also year 3 jones is till doing reckless things and getting hurt. He’s still not throwing in tight windows in the red zone .. the fact he still doesn’t have an int yet. He is still playing with no balls and scared or throwing an int and on pace for another 11 TD season
Hard to throw passing TD’s when your OC calls 4 straight runs. What we need are TD’s when we get in red zone. I don’t care if they are running or passing as long as we get them.
Did anyone stop to think there’s a very good reason why Garrett isn’t calling passes on that 3rd down. With Glennon a pick 6 in garbage time is no big deal. But when you’re “franchise “ QBs are doing it it could get real embarrassing
Because Garrett is an idiot who shows no feel for play calling except in hurry up/no huddle where D has less of a chance to adjust?
I swear that some of you are so eager to prove your point so you can go jack off to your I am so right comments.
I like Jones a lot and I think he has what it takes. I was most concerned about his pocket presence but I see that improving too.
This team is 1-4. You really remember Simms playing bad? I started watching as a kid in 84 and have no recollection of Simms playing like this. Admittedly Eli some games but he also show up on opening day and will throw 300 yards and play better that Peyton in the manning bowl. It’s year three and jones is still yet to do that!
Shouldn't John Ross have run away from the DB he started even with on two of those throws? Fastest man in the NFL?
(I grant he stumbled or was tied up during one of those routes but that wasn't DJ's fault, was it?)
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I learned a lot of patience with the QB. Eli had some of the worst games I have seen and some awful starts to games. The one thing he did at a HOF level was come through in the clutch. I don’t judge by how the QB starts the game but how they finish. DJ showed me a lot last week and expect to see more of that. One thing Simms had and Eli had were defenses with great pass rushers. That makes a big difference and helps close out games and makes up for bad and mistakes.
I swear that some of you are so eager to prove your point so you can go jack off to your I am so right comments.
I like Jones a lot and I think he has what it takes. I was most concerned about his pocket presence but I see that improving too.
This team is 1-4. You really remember Simms playing bad? I started watching as a kid in 84 and have no recollection of Simms playing like this. Admittedly Eli some games but he also show up on opening day and will throw 300 yards and play better that Peyton in the manning bowl. It’s year three and jones is still yet to do that!
Didnt he just throw for 400 yards and put the team on his back and bring them back for a win?
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
There’s more to than that. But I cannot remember an nfl qb with misses like those ;not three like that. It’s also year 3 jones is till doing reckless things and getting hurt. He’s still not throwing in tight windows in the red zone .. the fact he still doesn’t have an int yet. He is still playing with no balls and scared or throwing an int and on pace for another 11 TD season
Hard to throw passing TD’s when your OC calls 4 straight runs. What we need are TD’s when we get in red zone. I don’t care if they are running or passing as long as we get them.
Did anyone stop to think there’s a very good reason why Garrett isn’t calling passes on that 3rd down. With Glennon a pick 6 in garbage time is no big deal. But when you’re “franchise “ QBs are doing it it could get real embarrassing
Because Garrett is an idiot who shows no feel for play calling except in hurry up/no huddle where D has less of a chance to adjust?
Oh right it Garrett. Ok a coach that was once 13-3. You think a special teams coach will ever be 13-3? You think some bush leaguer QB who is only a little better than Glennon will ever be 13-3???
the first drive of the game should have been 3 or more if Toney didn't have the drop on 3rd down.
the second drive Barkley got hurt on the first play. booker got 1 yard on 2nd down and on 3rd down they took a shot to Ross that was close but didn't connect.
the third drive had 2 runs and again they took a shot to ross on 3rd down that didn't connect.
the fourth drive he connected deep with Toney. Had a couple misfires to Golladay who left the game shortly after. FG.
the fifth drive he was 4/4 for 60 yards and got them to the 1 when he got hurt.
he wasn't at his best but he was keeping pace (and heating up) on the road against the team leading the NFL in turnovers and they were losing guys on every series. this franchise is so snake bitten right now it's hard to fathom.
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That is the bottom line. Not even Glennon overthrows three people. Golladay abd barley all over their head. You see that once In awhile
Oh my goodness, you re kidding right. Those 3 passes after all the accuracy he has displayed over 2+ seasons, prove he s not an NFL quarterback, ....?
Ok, thanks for clearing up the question of Jones.
There’s more to than that. But I cannot remember an nfl qb with misses like those ;not three like that. It’s also year 3 jones is till doing reckless things and getting hurt. He’s still not throwing in tight windows in the red zone .. the fact he still doesn’t have an int yet. He is still playing with no balls and scared or throwing an int and on pace for another 11 TD season
Hard to throw passing TD’s when your OC calls 4 straight runs. What we need are TD’s when we get in red zone. I don’t care if they are running or passing as long as we get them.
Did anyone stop to think there’s a very good reason why Garrett isn’t calling passes on that 3rd down. With Glennon a pick 6 in garbage time is no big deal. But when you’re “franchise “ QBs are doing it it could get real embarrassing
Because Garrett is an idiot who shows no feel for play calling except in hurry up/no huddle where D has less of a chance to adjust?
Oh right it Garrett. Ok a coach that was once 13-3. You think a special teams coach will ever be 13-3? You think some bush leaguer QB who is only a little better than Glennon will ever be 13-3???
If you think Garrett had anything to do with that team being 13-3 I have a bridge to sell you. They were 13-3 in spite of Garrett not because of him.