Why the Gettleman hate

He is the GM.
This is year 4

Nothing else to say

As it was his first day on the job.

That’s unacceptable. We all deserve better.

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Gets you fired in all jobs, from garbage man to heart surgeon. Plus, he has s shit stinking smile on his face despite up all his losing. L.

Pushing a strong narrative tonight making excuses for the POS.

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Mara sees it the same exact way as the OP.

And that's why the Decade of Despair continues...

Giants can't find wins but they are great at finding excuses.

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Instead the Hog Mollies are still on back-order and the computer guys are out trying to find coach's shorts big enough to fit Gettleman.

Here have been some of our successful draft neighbors.

2018
Cleveland Browns
Denver Broncos
Buffalo Bills

2019
Arizona Cardinals
Oakland Raiders
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

2020
Cincinatti Bengals
Los Angeles Chargers
Carolina Panthers

2021
Carolina Panthers
Dallas Cowboys
Los Angeles Chargers

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Makes me feel a little jealous personally when teams show up alongside you in the basement for 1-2 years and then are on the ups.

You have Shepard getting 10 million a year to play the slot. Where is KT supposed to play if Shep is on the field?

This team, at no point in any season since 2017, has had a winning record at any point of the season. That is unbelievably pathetic.

in the '18 draft.
At the very least, he could have/should have traded down before selecting SB. Barkley is a GREAT player, but the Giants needed to begin a massive rebuild and RB is not the position at #2 in the draft to start with.
Additionally, the Oline, which has been marginally better this year, is still not "fixed." Just look at the Dallas Oline and that's what the Giants should have in place 4 years into DG's tenure.

I do like many of the players he has brought in, but the full rebuild was delayed because of this 2018 draft decision, as well as the FA money spent on Solder, Omameh (sp?), Rudolph (so far), Tate....and there are some who really hate that he traded Beckham away.

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Two names.. Solder and Golladay..

Throw in ignoring the Dline & Oline, and that is all you need to know why he needs to get fired now!

... I was a DG proponent based on his track record and success elsewhere.

But this team looks no different than it did back in 2017 sans a few players.

We talk about the arrow pointing upward and a team building towards something.

I just don't see it. I'm not even sure if we have the right HC.

In comment 15407493 Tom in NY said:

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in the '18 draft. At the very least, he could have/should have traded down before selecting SB. Barkley is a GREAT player, but the Giants needed to begin a massive rebuild and RB is not the position at #2 in the draft to start with. Additionally, the Oline, which has been marginally better this year, is still not "fixed." Just look at the Dallas Oline and that's what the Giants should have in place 4 years into DG's tenure. I do like many of the players he has brought in, but the full rebuild was delayed because of this 2018 draft decision, as well as the FA money spent on Solder, Omameh (sp?), Rudolph (so far), Tate....and there are some who really hate that he traded Beckham away.

Not every move DG has made has been the wrong move. Trading Beckham was the correct move.

But Gettleman has had an embarrassment of resources the last 4 years compared to other teams. Look at the signing bonus money dished out and the draft picks used. Sure, some bad luck and bad coaching involved this year but this roster is somewhere between bad to mediocre when it should be one of the strongest in the league. We’re at the top of an accumulation phase from a roster resource perspective and we’re 1-4.

In comment 15407448 The_Boss said:

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As it was his first day on the job. That’s unacceptable. We all deserve better.

Essentially that's where we are. True statement.

Also Giants73: "the team sucks"

Because 4 yrs into his tenure, they have not come close to threatening a winning record. Furthermore, he and his staff show little ability in making the proper picks or pursuing the right free agents. But other than that, he is great.

Hog Mollie Whisperer.

As apparent feathers in Gettleman's cap just aren't very good.

I'll give you that he has acquired some very good players. What terrible GM hasn't?

He is known for trading picks which in my opinion is a no no.

You need to keep picks because you hit and miss. The more the better, but Gettleman has a bad habit of trading them and that is bad for the future.
Keep the picks ditch the GM

They really had no idea how to pick NFL players.

All hype, no bite. Complete disappointment.

In comment 15407692 OntheRoad said:

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They really had no idea how to pick NFL players.

Huge upgrade? Do you know what those two words actually mean when put together?

It’s quite obvious you don’t because, well, you’re simply not paying attention or just willfully fucking ignorant.

Gettleman hugely overvalued:

- Nate Solder
- Alec Ogletree
- Patrick Omameh
- Saquon Barkley
- Jonathan Stewart
- Golden Tate
- Leonard Williams
- Logan Ryan (inital contract was fine, paying him over 10 mln a year now, mainly for intangibles is not)
- Deandre Baker
- Kyle Rudolph
- Kenny Golloday
- Jabril 'it's like another first round pick' Peppers
- 'We are clearly more confident in our O-line than you'

Other questionable roster moves:
- Getting rid of Jason Pierre Paul and Romeo Okwara (especially in the light of the absolute embarrasment of a pass rush he replaced them with)
- Getting rid of Kevin Zeitler
- Not trading Collins or Engram
- Letting Dalvin Tomlinson walk and replacing him with the corpse of Danny Shelton
- I'm not going to get into the wormhole of Daniel Jones at #6 and trading Beckham, but personally I don't think we got the best possible value with either move.

Now let's look at his philosophy of Hog Mollies and, more importantly: 'Run the ball, stop the rush, rush the passer'. The Giants can't:
- Run the Ball
- Stop the run
- Rush the passer

Now let's look at his W-L record:
- 16-36 (JR's final three years: 20-28)

Now let's look at the cap situation of this terrible team with a QB on a rookie deal:
- 2022 (according to OTC) current estimation is 450k of free cap space and that is without Will Hernandez, Jabrill Peppers and Evan Engram.

Dead money of currently underperforming players if cut this off season:
- Bradberry 9 million
- Golloday 23 million
- Adoree Jackson 18 million
- Logan Ryan 11 million
- Sterling Shepard (not technically underperforming, but injury prone and we have KT for the slot) 7 million
- Kyle Rudolph 2,5 million
- Saquon Barkley 7 million
- Nate Solder 4 million

but yeah, Gettleman is doing a great job.

Or is the OP a relative of DG?

In comment 15407692 OntheRoad said:

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They really had no idea how to pick NFL players.

Lol

What's the Jets record since 2017?

In comment 15407448 The_Boss said:

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As it was his first day on the job. That’s unacceptable. We all deserve better.

It’s worse. That team made the playoffs the year before. And in the 4 year span will win more games too

NYG has had more and higher draft picks. Dallas is far more talented. That’s obvious.

The Giants could go undefeated the rest of the season, including winning the super bowl, and Gettleman still would have an overall W/L below .500

In comment 15407475 okayrene said:

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Here have been some of our successful draft neighbors. 2018 Cleveland Browns Denver Broncos Buffalo Bills 2019 Arizona Cardinals Oakland Raiders Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2020 Cincinatti Bengals Los Angeles Chargers Carolina Panthers 2021 Carolina Panthers Dallas Cowboys Los Angeles Chargers ------ Makes me feel a little jealous personally when teams show up alongside you in the basement for 1-2 years and then are on the ups.

Good post here.

In comment 15407475 okayrene said:

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Here have been some of our successful draft neighbors. 2018 Cleveland Browns Denver Broncos Buffalo Bills 2019 Arizona Cardinals Oakland Raiders Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2020 Cincinatti Bengals Los Angeles Chargers Carolina Panthers 2021 Carolina Panthers Dallas Cowboys Los Angeles Chargers ------ Makes me feel a little jealous personally when teams show up alongside you in the basement for 1-2 years and then are on the ups.

Be careful of using the word “jealous” on BBI, it triggers a lot of people.