To me, the run game was by far the biggest differentiating factor b/w the Cowboys & Giants. Both the ability to run the ball and stop the run. But what on earth has happened to the Giants run defense this season? I know the Cowboys have a good oline and good RB's but the way they manhandled our d-line is something we haven't seen in a long time. I know losing our best tackler in Blake Martinez obviously hurts but that doesn't explain our dline being pushed around like rag dolls.
Was Dalvin Tomlinson that big a loss? Are Austin Johnson and Danny Shelton that horrific? Where has Leonard Williams been all season (for the record, I was not a proponent of allocating that much cap space to a player like him)? Ojulari had 3 sacks in his first 3 games but has been almost non-existent outside of those plays (he's averaging under 3 tackles a game!). Lorenzo Carter and Oshane Ximenes are both horrific players that shouldn't be starters.
To me, this is just another indictment on the GM (in a long list of them). The talent level just isn't there and the talent evaluation process of this organization just seems to be broken. Something needs to change.
And this off season is exactly like the one when we let Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph and Antrell Rolle walk and brought in DRC for big money. We paid for DB when we let DL walk and the results are the same. You still win tackle to tackle on both sides. Gettleman got cute and it's again costing us.
Not very stout on the edge either...
BJ Hill and Tomlinson. Run stoppers
Peppers playing less. Run stopper
Playing 2 high safety more...
Dallas is a top running team too. Oh..and we can't stop the pass either
BJ Hill and Tomlinson. Run stoppers
Peppers playing less. Run stopper
Playing 2 high safety more...
Dallas is a top running team too. Oh..and we can't stop the pass either
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If that is the case, the unit is bad. Blake Martinez is so important BECAUSE the defense is poorly constructed.
In the Wash game they rushed for a total of 18 yards excluding the QB getting 6 years on 4 runs.
They were "shit" in this game?
They weren't good obviously. But "shit?"
Even in the Atl game - ATl ran for 70 yards even with no Blake. That's "shit?"
If that is the case, the unit is bad. Blake Martinez is so important BECAUSE the defense is poorly constructed.
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The edge is a huge problem. It is too easy to say Martinez got hurt is the reason. The run D looked like shit before he got hurt also. Besides the edge, though, the middle of that D sucks. RBs are consistently getting beyond the DT. It's a combination of things really. Whenever a DL actually gets some penetration, the tackling has been atrocious. A hit at the LOS is a 3 yard gain or more. That simply can't happen consistently.
In the Wash game they rushed for a total of 18 yards excluding the QB getting 6 years on 4 runs.
They were "shit" in this game?
They weren't good obviously. But "shit?"
Even in the Atl game - ATl ran for 70 yards even with no Blake. That's "shit?"
These things are all pieces of a bigger puzzle. They have to go spend big on Jackson because they have failed to draft good corners. If they draft better, they can keep a homegrown guy they loved enough to name a team captain.
If that is the case, the unit is bad. Blake Martinez is so important BECAUSE the defense is poorly constructed.
It's not one guy.
It's a combination of 1 All_Pro tremendous player in Martinez, along with an enormous downgrade losing Tomlinson and Hill vs what they picked up.
Add that with players over-achieving and teams being a bit better than last year's teams thus making things look better than what they really were.
And an exaggeration of fans in the Wash and ATl game equating that with this game.
And sure - some coach. Certainly. But not all coaching. Players have to be accountable too and in some cases they just aren't good enough. We have to recognize that instead of hiding behind that 5-3 end of season stuff that was posted leading into this year.
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The edge is a huge problem. It is too easy to say Martinez got hurt is the reason. The run D looked like shit before he got hurt also. Besides the edge, though, the middle of that D sucks. RBs are consistently getting beyond the DT. It's a combination of things really. Whenever a DL actually gets some penetration, the tackling has been atrocious. A hit at the LOS is a 3 yard gain or more. That simply can't happen consistently.
In the Wash game they rushed for a total of 18 yards excluding the QB getting 6 years on 4 runs.
They were "shit" in this game?
They weren't good obviously. But "shit?"
Even in the Atl game - ATl ran for 70 yards even with no Blake. That's "shit?"
Those are two terrible offenses.
But that's not the point. The run defense wasn't shit.
In three of Atl's games this year they ran for 99 yards or above. Not with the Giants.
You and some others can't just ignore this because it doesn't fit your narrative.
But, keeping the strength of the DL might have meant not improving the secondary, so who's to say how things would turn out.
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One guy getting hurt can't be the reason the defense collapses.
If that is the case, the unit is bad. Blake Martinez is so important BECAUSE the defense is poorly constructed.
It's not one guy.
It's a combination of 1 All_Pro tremendous player in Martinez, along with an enormous downgrade losing Tomlinson and Hill vs what they picked up.
Add that with players over-achieving and teams being a bit better than last year's teams thus making things look better than what they really were.
And an exaggeration of fans in the Wash and ATl game equating that with this game.
And sure - some coach. Certainly. But not all coaching. Players have to be accountable too and in some cases they just aren't good enough. We have to recognize that instead of hiding behind that 5-3 end of season stuff that was posted leading into this year.
1,000%. What is sad is that the front office identifies the need; they just suck at selecting the right talent. This was the case for the later years with Reese and it's the case with Gettleman.
Haven't you heard Dave? Williams' sole responsibility is to just occupy blockers. All for only $22mm/year!
That's why Judge dealt him more or less.
He was not getting a 2nd contract with NY.
Look at it this way. He's played 35% of snaps in Cincinnati. He played that last year. Maybe he hits FA after all and is priced far less than most expected around here.
Factor that in with the regression of Williams, Lawrence, and Peppers
What impact if any did Bielma have in keeping the edge setters on task?