1st Dallas possession: they generated a turnover and fantastic field position for the offense on the first Dallas possession of the game.
Giants' offensive response: they could only set up a 54 yard FG attempt, which Gano missed. Go score a touchdown there with the short field.
2nd Dallas possession: Dallas puts together an 11 play drive, but they can't punch it in and settle for a 31 yard FG. Red zone field goals are wins for the defense!
Giants' offensive response: Does the offense string a few plays together to rest the defense after the long Dallas drive? Or God forbid, do they score some points? No. 3 and out.
3rd Dallas possession: Another long Dallas drive (10 plays), but again the defense gets a turnover, this time deep in their own territory (NYG 5).
Giants' offensive response: Does the offense get a couple first downs to shift field position and give the defense a breather? No. 3 and out, including two terrible incompletions.
So if you're keeping score at the end of the first quarter:
Turnovers: NYG +2
Total Plays Run: DAL 28, NYG 11
NYG Passes Completed: 0
Score: DAL 3-0
That's the game. Right there. Two turnovers and a red zone win for the defense, and the offense can't even complete a pass.
Wow.
Meanwhile, it was 10-10 with some change left in the first half.
And Dallas put a 40 spot on us. I am sure they would have folded if we just did a little more damage in the 1st quarter.
The score was also 10-10. What happened after that??
The score was also 10-10. What happened after that??
Took the words right outta my mouth.
2nd halves dont matter either. That's actually the part of the game where DJ did his most damage.
Get a clue.
The biggest problem is the offense, the idiotic run oriented conservativism, and the inept QB. The offense is a dumpster fire.
BWHAHAHAHAHA..............
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
Focusing on this allows GT, to focus on his Jones tirades. Of course, if Jones threw for 200 yards in the first quarter then shit the bed, and I made the same argument about Jones that GT is re teh defense, it would rightfully be laughed at
The point is the offense sucked for the 1st quarter. That ends the point. It had ZERO to do with the outcome.
Guess what, it happens. Teams don't play precision football for 60 minutes, esp this one.
But the score was 10-10 with 2 minutes in the half left.
SO
Does anyone honestly think the offense couldn't have generated some more points to at least keep things close, keep the defense a little more rested, etc. if Jones, Barkley and Golladay don't go down?
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
I think you can accuse Terps of a lot of things, but not having the balls to say what he means even if it’s unpopular, isn’t one of them.
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In comment 15408696 UConn4523 said:
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
He was awful to start, but maybe if Toney doesnt drop the pass to start the game they keep moving there..
Also right before he got hurt he was 4 for 4 for 60 yards on that drive inckuding 2 3rd downzls, so he was starting to pick it up..
they were 10-10 with 2 minutes to go in the half, if Jones doesnt get hurt maybe he has a great 2nd half..
Qbs sometimes stsrt bad especially when they ars running for their life
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In comment 15408696 UConn4523 said:
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
Bingo. Why not just start a thread with that title?
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In comment 15408696 UConn4523 said:
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
Of course, it is impossible that Jones could have improved as teh game went on. And he was injured with the game tied and basically three quarters left, but it's still Jones' fault. Anyone whoever thiks that your Jones posts aren't biased, should remember this drek you just posted JFC, you're obtuse!
Dallas destroyed our defense. Look at TOP and average yards per play/per run. Could we stop the run at all? Serious question. Saints ran all over us and Dallas did the same. We couldn’t set the edge and got gashed non stop. I don’t know the stats but I’d guess we are the worst tackling team in the nfl
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In comment 15408696 UConn4523 said:
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
Of course, it is impossible that Jones could have improved as teh game went on. And he was injured with the game tied and basically three quarters left, but it's still Jones' fault. Anyone whoever thiks that your Jones posts aren't biased, should remember this drek you just posted JFC, you're obtuse!
Dont know why you all feed the troll. He wants to ignite these arguments by throwing out such affirmative opinions
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
Wrong again, disaster thread.
1. Couldn't stop the run.
2. Couldn't stop the pass.
Those were the two biggest reasons - amongst many - that we lost yesterday.
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In comment 15408696 UConn4523 said:
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
He was awful to start, but maybe if Toney doesnt drop the pass to start the game they keep moving there..
Also right before he got hurt he was 4 for 4 for 60 yards on that drive inckuding 2 3rd downzls, so he was starting to pick it up..
they were 10-10 with 2 minutes to go in the half, if Jones doesnt get hurt maybe he has a great 2nd half..
Qbs sometimes stsrt bad especially when they ars running for their life
this is the problem with jones supporters. he was 1 for 8 at one point, then on the fourth possession, he throws four good passes, is driving, then on an odd playcall that dallas sniffed out, decides to put his head down and try and plow through two LBs en route to a nasty concussion.
so eight bad passes, four good passes, and caps it off with a bone headed decision that ends his day, may end his season or at least will keep him sidelined for a week or three.
injury prone skill players aside, you can't win with a guy who plays QB like that.
He is definitely not good enough to give a 2nd big money contract to. But I think the decision to do that is already made by the Mara brothers. Same with Barkley. They fall in love with their people even if they're not winning NFL players.
The only valid point is the Giants not capitalizing on turnovers helped lose the game. But i'm laughing my ass off at that thought of it being THE reason when the D allowed 500 yards and Dallas probably could have added more if they needed to.
Cool thread.
Bad team! Plays bad!
Ok, I'm officially out of this one........
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
I wouldn't say that's entirely true. He's good sometimes which is something that can be said about basically almost everyone who's ever played QB in the NFL.
They are still wandering aimlessly trying to figure it out.
Are they are a ground and pound team?
Are they a team that prides itself on being defensive?
Are they a team that wants to try and score on you and put up big points and win in a shootout?
Are they a tough, beat the snot out of you type team?
Are they a team looking to make big plays offensively and turn you over defensively?
In Judge's quest to be "multiple" I believe he's created a situation in which the team has no identity...they have nothing to fall back on when the stuff is going down.
Dallas destroyed our defense. Look at TOP and average yards per play/per run. Could we stop the run at all? Serious question. Saints ran all over us and Dallas did the same. We couldn’t set the edge and got gashed non stop. I don’t know the stats but I’d guess we are the worst tackling team in the nfl
I don't think it's being argued that our defense played a good game.
I think the point is that our offense did nothing to keep us in the game prior to point where Dallas blew it wide open.
If next week Jones is out, i am not going to root against Glennon so Jones doesnt look bad, If Glennon looks great and the Giants win i am goingnto be happy..
I never understood this Jones supporter/hater crap..
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In comment 15408696 UConn4523 said:
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it may have been our only shot, but Dallas still puts up 40. This is a loaded thread for anyone that doesn't know.
It’s so obvious, but he doesn’t have the balls to type what he actually wants to say.
Jones isn't any good. He was awful yesterday before he got hurt, and that's the biggest reason the Giants lost the game.
He was awful to start, but maybe if Toney doesnt drop the pass to start the game they keep moving there..
Also right before he got hurt he was 4 for 4 for 60 yards on that drive inckuding 2 3rd downzls, so he was starting to pick it up..
they were 10-10 with 2 minutes to go in the half, if Jones doesnt get hurt maybe he has a great 2nd half..
Qbs sometimes stsrt bad especially when they ars running for their life
this is the problem with jones supporters. he was 1 for 8 at one point, then on the fourth possession, he throws four good passes, is driving, then on an odd playcall that dallas sniffed out, decides to put his head down and try and plow through two LBs en route to a nasty concussion.
so eight bad passes, four good passes, and caps it off with a bone headed decision that ends his day, may end his season or at least will keep him sidelined for a week or three.
injury prone skill players aside, you can't win with a guy who plays QB like that.
No one is saying he played well, but he was starting to pay better, and all his criticz are assuming he could not improve as the game went along. Lots of QBs have had games where they started cold and heated up. It happens. To assume ti wasn't shows a bias.
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Your one of the strangest posters on this board.
Dallas destroyed our defense. Look at TOP and average yards per play/per run. Could we stop the run at all? Serious question. Saints ran all over us and Dallas did the same. We couldn’t set the edge and got gashed non stop. I don’t know the stats but I’d guess we are the worst tackling team in the nfl
I don't think it's being argued that our defense played a good game.
I think the point is that our offense did nothing to keep us in the game prior to point where Dallas blew it wide open.
it was 10-10 with 2:30 on the clock and the cowboys had a 3rd and 6
Barkley
Shep
A Thomas
Golladay
Another makeshift OL
D without:
Martínez
Game tied late second quarter.
And the O was the bigger problem? Or the D with highly paid CBs and Ss and star DL with the big contract gave up 37, couldn’t stop run or pass, gave up big plays, gave up another pre-half score, not at least as big a problem?
Ooookay
that is the point
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Your one of the strangest posters on this board.
Dallas destroyed our defense. Look at TOP and average yards per play/per run. Could we stop the run at all? Serious question. Saints ran all over us and Dallas did the same. We couldn’t set the edge and got gashed non stop. I don’t know the stats but I’d guess we are the worst tackling team in the nfl
I don't think it's being argued that our defense played a good game.
I think the point is that our offense did nothing to keep us in the game prior to point where Dallas blew it wide open.
Except it was 10-10 and the defense allowed them to march down the field and score inside 2 minutes for what, the 5th time this year?
I fully understand that playing with the lead changes things, but so far this year it hasn't for us. We've given up every lead we've ever had.
He is definitely not good enough to give a 2nd big money contract to. But I think the decision to do that is already made by the Mara brothers. Same with Barkley. They fall in love with their people even if they're not winning NFL players.
I'm leaning this way too as much as I don't want to admit it (especially the Jones part). However the dropped catches kill us too. Engram in the past. Toney yesterday. Even our dropped interceptions. Another one yesterday and One against Atlanta that would have sealed a win. But I'm afraid you may be right about them falling in love with players. It's why they kept Eli too long and drafted Barkley.
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Your one of the strangest posters on this board.
Dallas destroyed our defense. Look at TOP and average yards per play/per run. Could we stop the run at all? Serious question. Saints ran all over us and Dallas did the same. We couldn’t set the edge and got gashed non stop. I don’t know the stats but I’d guess we are the worst tackling team in the nfl
I don't think it's being argued that our defense played a good game.
I think the point is that our offense did nothing to keep us in the game prior to point where Dallas blew it wide open.
it was 10-10 with 2:30 on the clock and the cowboys had a 3rd and 6
But to win a game you need more points than the opponent, and the Giants had chances in the first half that they could not capitalize upon whatsoever.
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In comment 15408734 Tuckrule said:
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Your one of the strangest posters on this board.
Dallas destroyed our defense. Look at TOP and average yards per play/per run. Could we stop the run at all? Serious question. Saints ran all over us and Dallas did the same. We couldn’t set the edge and got gashed non stop. I don’t know the stats but I’d guess we are the worst tackling team in the nfl
I don't think it's being argued that our defense played a good game.
I think the point is that our offense did nothing to keep us in the game prior to point where Dallas blew it wide open.
it was 10-10 with 2:30 on the clock and the cowboys had a 3rd and 6
But to win a game you need more points than the opponent, and the Giants had chances in the first half that they could not capitalize upon whatsoever.
You cant expect the offense to score on every single possession..