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A Stat that really shows our lack of ER and our big $ DL

jvm52106 : 10/11/2021 3:50 pm
haven't been producing is Austin Johnson is tied for the team lead with 3 sacks. Austin Johnson!
Bad organizations  
BigBlueJ : 10/11/2021 3:54 pm : link
are going to make bad decisions.
Or maybe that they  
section125 : 10/11/2021 3:56 pm : link
are being doubled and Austin is freed up?

Not that they are playing well.
RE: Or maybe that they  
jvm52106 : 10/11/2021 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15409115 section125 said:
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are being doubled and Austin is freed up?

Not that they are playing well.


and our Edge guys??/
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section125 : 10/11/2021 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15409119 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15409115 section125 said:


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are being doubled and Austin is freed up?

Not that they are playing well.



and our Edge guys??/


They have high $$ edge guys?
Ojulari is the only ER to record a sack  
jeff57 : 10/11/2021 4:00 pm : link
And even worse now is the total lack of pressure off the edge on so many plays.
Our DL is getting big $$$?  
George from PA : 10/11/2021 4:08 pm : link
Only one person is getting big bucks....DL is pretty cheap.

Corners are big $$$ with little to ahow for it.
How about this for a stat we: our edge rushers  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/11/2021 4:47 pm : link
Per Zack Rosenblatt of NJ.com:

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Lorenzo Carter, Oshane Ximines, Azeez Ojulari, Quincy Roche played 55 combined pass-rushing snaps against the Cowboys.

They collectively had ONE total pressure between them, per PFF.

Rosenblatt tweet - ( New Window )
RE: How about this for a stat we: our edge rushers  
Eric on Li : 10/11/2021 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15409215 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Per Zack Rosenblatt of NJ.com:



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Lorenzo Carter, Oshane Ximines, Azeez Ojulari, Quincy Roche played 55 combined pass-rushing snaps against the Cowboys.

They collectively had ONE total pressure between them, per PFF.

Rosenblatt tweet - ( New Window )


but did you see how they set the edge in the run game?
Defense is a mess....  
Crazed Dogs : 10/11/2021 4:53 pm : link
Martinez going down was huge. No pass rush makes it hard for the team to cover the pass. Really miss Tomlinson as the middle is soft with Shelton so run d sucks as well....Team cant get a stop when it counts and for whatever reason and I am guessing coaching they always cave and give up points at the end of the half and late 4th quarter.
Edge  
Toth029 : 10/11/2021 5:23 pm : link
Is a mess and one Judge and Graham will need to fix, address, whatever it is, by the end of the season.

Carter and Ximines are not future players here.
RE: Defense is a mess....  
Toth029 : 10/11/2021 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15409232 Crazed Dogs said:
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Martinez going down was huge. No pass rush makes it hard for the team to cover the pass. Really miss Tomlinson as the middle is soft with Shelton so run d sucks as well....Team cant get a stop when it counts and for whatever reason and I am guessing coaching they always cave and give up points at the end of the half and late 4th quarter.


Teams are mostly running on the edge. Perimeter.

And the biggest gaping problem is at ILB. When Reggie freaking Ragland is making most of your plays - it's a big problem.

PS. Vikings run defense is equally babysoft. Tomlinson and his run stop rate is greatly exaggerated. They allow 4.7 YPC. They allowed the Lions to rush for over 100 yesterday. The Lions!
Is there a more worthless player on the team than Ximenes?  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/11/2021 5:34 pm : link
Oh, wait. Sam Beal exists.

So many losing players on this team it's incredible.
This reminds me in the movie  
pjcas18 : 10/11/2021 5:37 pm : link
Say Anything when at the gas station, Lloyd Dobler asks Joe and the guys:

I got a question. If you guys know so much about women, how come you’re here at like the Gas ‘n’ Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?

And Joe answers "By choice, man!", and the other guys chime in "conscious choice"

so we're clear the Giants maybe aren't trying to rush the passer by choice.

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Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt
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Lorenzo Carter was asked about the lack of pressure the #Giants edge rushers are getting, pushed back on that being the whole evaluation: “We do more than rush the quarterback … there’s different ways to affect the game.”

Though he did admit they need more pressure.

#Giants
At this point, I'm not even angry anymore.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/11/2021 5:37 pm : link
I'm more fascinated with the level and never-ending streak of ineptness more than anything else.

I'm actually interested to see how much longer we can be this bad. I think at some point in the future there MUST be a case study done a GM who got close to every draft pick and FA signing wrong for literally years at a time. It must be done for science, if nothing else.
"And the biggest gaping problem is at ILB. "  
Crazed Dogs : 10/11/2021 6:02 pm : link
And the biggest gaping problem is at ILB. When Reggie freaking Ragland is making most of your plays - it's a big problem.

He is making those plays becasue Shelton is doing nothing.

On Tomlinson... he is one play and thus you cant generalize that he is th reason the Vikes run Def sucks... and caveat I have not seen a single Viking game this year
At least their are terrible in run defense too  
JFIB : 10/12/2021 8:51 am : link
!
They should probably extend him now  
Harvest Blend : 10/12/2021 8:59 am : link
Williams money at least. :)
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Angel Eyes : 10/12/2021 9:21 am : link
In comment 15409333 Crazed Dogs said:
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And the biggest gaping problem is at ILB. When Reggie freaking Ragland is making most of your plays - it's a big problem.

He is making those plays becasue Shelton is doing nothing.

On Tomlinson... he is one play and thus you cant generalize that he is th reason the Vikes run Def sucks... and caveat I have not seen a single Viking game this year

Plus Ragland’s contract is up after this year. We might need to look at linebackers in the draft, MIKE or SAM linebackers.
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