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Debaser : 10/11/2021 8:25 pm
Lamar / ravens going for the record
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RE: RE: RE: LJax...  
section125 : 10/11/2021 11:14 pm : link
In comment 15409931 bw in dc said:
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is the most exciting player in the NFL.



I agree. He is so good and so incompetent at the same time. You never know when each will appear.



LOL. That's really it. He runs the gamut - daft, incompetence, insanity, good, great, genius...


And the last 4 plays there showed it all.
RE: Jeez  
bw in dc : 10/11/2021 11:14 pm : link
In comment 15409933 santacruzom said:
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Just catching up now... Jackson overrated his way to 3 TDs and almost 400 yards on 31-37 passing? Good God.


There are a lot of MVP candidates right now. And LJax is right in that conversation.
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Banks : 10/11/2021 11:15 pm : link
shaping up for a whacky finish. Wentz nails a huge play. Couple more yards and they can kick. Then they get a hold. Then a PI against the ravens.
That's pretty thuggish  
santacruzom : 10/11/2021 11:16 pm : link
By Doyle there.
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Banks : 10/11/2021 11:16 pm : link
err not PI. personal foul
Those personnel foul calls...  
bw in dc : 10/11/2021 11:16 pm : link
should be reviewable.
RE: Jeez  
ajr2456 : 10/11/2021 11:16 pm : link
In comment 15409933 santacruzom said:
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Just catching up now... Jackson overrated his way to 3 TDs and almost 400 yards on 31-37 passing? Good God.


If Jones had this game they’d be creaming themselves.

How in the world is Lamar overrated?
RE: RE: Jeez  
section125 : 10/11/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15409938 bw in dc said:
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Just catching up now... Jackson overrated his way to 3 TDs and almost 400 yards on 31-37 passing? Good God.



There are a lot of MVP candidates right now. And LJax is right in that conversation.


Every year.
RE: RE: Jeez  
section125 : 10/11/2021 11:18 pm : link
In comment 15409943 ajr2456 said:
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Just catching up now... Jackson overrated his way to 3 TDs and almost 400 yards on 31-37 passing? Good God.



If Jones had this game they’d be creaming themselves.

How in the world is Lamar overrated?


sarcasm
RE: RE: RE: Too much time left?  
myquealer : 10/11/2021 11:18 pm : link
In comment 15409935 Producer said:
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They should have managed the clock better here and left less time.



But if you miss the 2 pt conversion you need time for your own team to drive down and score.



Your only play is to force overtime.


Bah, you only have about a 50% chance of making the 2 point conversion and then a 50% chance of winning in overtime. You don't need to guarantee a loss with a missed 2 point conversion (not that onside kicks are apt to be successful). And you need your defense to step up if you do make the conversion. The Ravens D has not stepped up. You score a touchdown when you can.
ok  
Producer : 10/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
Colts are a good team but they need a new kicker.
Wow, some really  
section125 : 10/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
shitty place kickers in the NFL.
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Banks : 10/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
what a mess by the colts to blow this game
What a week...  
bw in dc : 10/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
for FG kickers.
Still could care less what  
GNewGiants : 10/11/2021 11:22 pm : link
Lamar does in the regular season. Against bad team missing 4 starters in the secondary.

Not a guy in the playoffs you want.
This is must-see-TV...  
bw in dc : 10/11/2021 11:22 pm : link
Lamar is either going to do something completely moronic to lose or something from outer space to win this game.
RE: RE: Jeez  
Producer : 10/11/2021 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15409943 ajr2456 said:
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Just catching up now... Jackson overrated his way to 3 TDs and almost 400 yards on 31-37 passing? Good God.



If Jones had this game they’d be creaming themselves.

How in the world is Lamar overrated?


Considering folks here are already comparing Kadarius Toney to Antonio Brown, after only a good game and a half, I think if we had LJax and all his magic and MVP, he would already be anointed the greatest to ever play.
delayed blitz  
Debaser : 10/11/2021 11:26 pm : link
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Some help please  
montanagiant : 10/11/2021 11:26 pm : link
Fucking PoS Direct TV lag on rewinding caused me to switch my smart tv back to Amazon fire stick and I missed everything from the Colts driving in Ravens territory with Wentz doing a shovel pass to escape the rush to 8 mins left in OT
Colts  
GNewGiants : 10/11/2021 11:26 pm : link
Are gassed.
RE: Some help please  
Producer : 10/11/2021 11:28 pm : link
In comment 15409969 montanagiant said:
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Fucking PoS Direct TV lag on rewinding caused me to switch my smart tv back to Amazon fire stick and I missed everything from the Colts driving in Ravens territory with Wentz doing a shovel pass to escape the rush to 8 mins left in OT


LJax is shredding them. TD soon to come.
RE: RE: Some help please  
montanagiant : 10/11/2021 11:28 pm : link
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Fucking PoS Direct TV lag on rewinding caused me to switch my smart tv back to Amazon fire stick and I missed everything from the Colts driving in Ravens territory with Wentz doing a shovel pass to escape the rush to 8 mins left in OT



LJax is shredding them. TD soon to come.

Did the Colts miss a FG to win it?
RE: RE: RE: Some help please  
GNewGiants : 10/11/2021 11:29 pm : link
In comment 15409975 montanagiant said:
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Fucking PoS Direct TV lag on rewinding caused me to switch my smart tv back to Amazon fire stick and I missed everything from the Colts driving in Ravens territory with Wentz doing a shovel pass to escape the rush to 8 mins left in OT



LJax is shredding them. TD soon to come.


Did the Colts miss a FG to win it?


Yes. 45 yarder- wasn’t even close
Thanks guys!  
montanagiant : 10/11/2021 11:29 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Some help please  
Producer : 10/11/2021 11:29 pm : link
In comment 15409975 montanagiant said:
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Fucking PoS Direct TV lag on rewinding caused me to switch my smart tv back to Amazon fire stick and I missed everything from the Colts driving in Ravens territory with Wentz doing a shovel pass to escape the rush to 8 mins left in OT



LJax is shredding them. TD soon to come.


Did the Colts miss a FG to win it?


yep it wobbled left.
Just throw it to  
section125 : 10/11/2021 11:30 pm : link
Andrews....
GAME  
montanagiant : 10/11/2021 11:30 pm : link
Heck of a comeback by LJ and the Ravens
And that is why Lamar  
section125 : 10/11/2021 11:31 pm : link
is an enigma...great comeback.
I think LJax...  
bw in dc : 10/11/2021 11:32 pm : link
had 500 in total offense.

What a devastating loss for the Colts. Wentz played like it was 2016.
AFC so many really good teams.  
Producer : 10/11/2021 11:32 pm : link
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The Ravens play some entertaining games.  
St. Jimmy : 10/11/2021 11:32 pm : link
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jnoble : 10/11/2021 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15409953 Banks said:
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what a mess by the colts to blow this game


I'd like to be a fly on the wall of the Colts version of BBI about now
It's likely just as pleasant and rational as this place is after a loss lol
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Producer : 10/11/2021 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15409987 jnoble said:
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what a mess by the colts to blow this game



I'd like to be a fly on the wall of the Colts version of BBI about now
It's likely just as pleasant and rational as this place is after a loss lol


but the future looks bright.
great win by the ravens  
Banks : 10/11/2021 11:33 pm : link
I feel bad for reich though. He is already tearing up
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jnoble : 10/11/2021 11:34 pm : link
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what a mess by the colts to blow this game



I'd like to be a fly on the wall of the Colts version of BBI about now
It's likely just as pleasant and rational as this place is after a loss lol



but the future looks bright.


Oh I'm sure they're all pointing THAT out right now ;-)
I needed a big game out of Andrews tonight to win ff  
djm : 10/11/2021 11:36 pm : link
Thanks Mark Andrews. Thanks for giving me a modicum of football joy.
Thank Jesus that was a nationally televised game  
Leg of Theismann : 10/11/2021 11:46 pm : link
How incredibly entertaining was that? I was sitting there at 22-3 in the 4th quarter and I just thought “this is far from over.” Lamar is one of those guys who you just feel can come back from literally anything.

I also had Mark Andrew’s in fantasy lol that was nice. 2 TDs and 2 2 pointers in the 4th plus a bunch of yards between the 4th and OT.
Feel bad for the Colts kicker  
Daniel in MI : 10/12/2021 12:16 am : link
he has a bad hip they said. Tough position to be in. He hit a 42 yarder earlier but he's clearly not right.

They needed to get him closer. That 2 yard run up the gut made no sense to me. Throw a quick 10 yarder and call the time if needed. The whole field was open and you're moving the ball nicely. Not sure how a dive for 2 yards helped him. 49 to 47 yards? BFD. Try to get the guy 10 yards.
RE: Still could care less what  
Leg of Theismann : 10/12/2021 2:50 am : link
In comment 15409961 GNewGiants said:
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Lamar does in the regular season. Against bad team missing 4 starters in the secondary.

Not a guy in the playoffs you want.


He’s 24 years old. I still just think it’s WAY too early in his career to just label him “not a guy in the playoffs you want.” So many guys in history have been “the guy who will never get it done in the playoffs”… until they DO get it done. But to me it’s even more ridiculous this kid already has that label and he hasn’t even turned 25 yet. Give the kid a break. He went to great lengths to improve his pocket passing this past offseason because he said he KNEW he had to get better at that to be able to make a deep playoff run… and his hard work has clearly shown the first 5 weeks of this season. Can we maybe see how things go the next couple years before saying he’s doomed to be a playoff loser?

Why does everyone want to be so quick to write this kid off? So much criticism of his passing game as though he isn’t a 24 year old QB. You can see the greatness is there— not only does he put up amazing numbers, he puts up WINS. Most winningest QB in the NFL since the week he took over (highest winning %). And btw the Ravens record the few years prior to that was NOT great, despite the fact people want to believe he just inherited a winning playoff team when he took over— he didn’t. He’s vastly improved their winning % since he took over, which is why Harbaugh has committed to building the team around him.

The eye test says he’s great, the numbers say he’s great, the W/L record says he’s great. So he’s 1-3 in the playoffs. Eli lost his first 2 playoff games too and didn’t look too hot. That’s how it goes with many young QBs— the playoffs are a different animal. Lamar looked like a deer in headlights his first playoff game, then looked better the following year, and then the following year he WON a playoff game. This year he’s improved his pocket passing. It looks like a upward trajectory to me.

24 years old. So many young QBs struggle in their early playoff games. But it seems because his style is unorthodox, his lack of success in the playoffs is magnified and it makes people think “his style of play will never be successful in the playoffs therefore he’s doomed to be a loser” as opposed to just figuring hey this guy has the makings of something great and maybe (just maybe) he was a young QB taking his lumps in his first few playoff appearances.
Record for missed extra points in one weekend  
jeff57 : 10/12/2021 6:19 am : link
Missed FGs not far behind.
crazy game  
bc4life : 10/12/2021 6:58 am : link
Colts defense just could not get a stop when they needed it.
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Debaser : 10/12/2021 7:39 am : link

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24 years old. So many young QBs struggle in their early playoff games. But it seems because his style is unorthodox, his lack of success in the playoffs is magnified and it makes people think “his style of play will never be successful in the playoffs therefore he’s doomed to be a loser” as opposed to just figuring hey this guy has the makings of something great and maybe (just maybe) he was a young QB taking his lumps in his first few playoff appearances.



Because lamar isn't the first mobile qb and that style of playing isn't usually conducive to wins in post season games.Just that simple.
Looking for any silver lining for the Giants...  
Bear vs Shark : 10/12/2021 7:43 am : link
...but maybe this horrible start means the Colts will be more prone to shutting Wentz down if he gets hurt, thereby saving their 1st round pick from going to the Eagles/
RE: Looking for any silver lining for the Giants...  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 7:52 am : link
In comment 15410122 Bear vs Shark said:
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...but maybe this horrible start means the Colts will be more prone to shutting Wentz down if he gets hurt, thereby saving their 1st round pick from going to the Eagles/


I don't think the colts are that bad. And one of the broadcasters said when he was talking to Reich that he was already talking about teams in the post season with a similar record. They didn't really look like a 1-4 team.
RE: RE: Looking for any silver lining for the Giants...  
section125 : 10/12/2021 7:58 am : link
In comment 15410133 Debaser said:
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...but maybe this horrible start means the Colts will be more prone to shutting Wentz down if he gets hurt, thereby saving their 1st round pick from going to the Eagles/



I don't think the colts are that bad. And one of the broadcasters said when he was talking to Reich that he was already talking about teams in the post season with a similar record. They didn't really look like a 1-4 team.


The Colts in the 4th quarter looked exactly like the Giants. Their defense was exhausted and unable to stop a determined offense on a better team. Instead of sending a blitzer to attack Lamar, they had the DLine try to keep Lamar in the pocket and drop 7 into coverage, but gave him 6-8 seconds to find a receiver. It was a slow death.
Went over 200 points with one of my Fantasy Teams  
NYGgolfer : 10/12/2021 8:07 am : link
starting Jackson, Brown and Andrews. All 3 were unstoppable in that second half. Ravens with all those injuries and they still keep bringing it each week.

Impressive comeback and entertaining game to watch. Seems as if there have been some decent non-Sunday games this season so far.


RE: RE: RE: Still could care less what  
ajr2456 : 10/12/2021 9:27 am : link
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24 years old. So many young QBs struggle in their early playoff games. But it seems because his style is unorthodox, his lack of success in the playoffs is magnified and it makes people think “his style of play will never be successful in the playoffs therefore he’s doomed to be a loser” as opposed to just figuring hey this guy has the makings of something great and maybe (just maybe) he was a young QB taking his lumps in his first few playoff appearances.




Because lamar isn't the first mobile qb and that style of playing isn't usually conducive to wins in post season games.Just that simple.


He’s what the third of his kind? Vick, RG3, Lamar? Small sample size.
This was an exciting and one of the most  
TheBlueprintNC : 10/12/2021 12:23 pm : link
poorly coached game this season.. Both coaches should use this game as a learning lesson. Reich needed to be aggresive up one score and your kicker is hurt, why play for the ffield goal and your D was gassed.

Harbaugh one of my favorites got bailed out by some Lamar magic. and a stupid stupid throw by Wentz in the red zone. The even called the wrong D formation in the red zone.. lol

Gruden getting Fired/resigned total political hit job.. Woke NFL is just stupid.
RE: RE: RE: Still could care less what  
santacruzom : 10/12/2021 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15410120 Debaser said:
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Because lamar isn't the first mobile qb and that style of playing isn't usually conducive to wins in post season games.Just that simple.


I say the same sort of thing to my friends every year during the playoffs -- "Do you have any idea how many quarterbacks who throw the football a lot have lost playoff games? Why should that guy be any different?!"
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Leg of Theismann : 10/12/2021 7:17 pm : link
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24 years old. So many young QBs struggle in their early playoff games. But it seems because his style is unorthodox, his lack of success in the playoffs is magnified and it makes people think “his style of play will never be successful in the playoffs therefore he’s doomed to be a loser” as opposed to just figuring hey this guy has the makings of something great and maybe (just maybe) he was a young QB taking his lumps in his first few playoff appearances.




Because lamar isn't the first mobile qb and that style of playing isn't usually conducive to wins in post season games.Just that simple.


Aside from the obvious small sample size point another poster mentioned…. Take his running out of the equation for a moment then. Last night he was first QB to throw for over 400 yards while completing 85% of his passes. He conducted that comeback FROM THE POCKET. The problem the first 3 years was Lamar couldn’t throw his team back into a game like this hence they always had to play with a lead to win. Now that’s no longer the case. Have you watched him the first 5 weeks of the season? All of a sudden he’s one of the best pocket passers in the league. Now add onto that the fact that he is one of the fastest most electrifying runners in the league at ANY position. At this point in his career he can beat you either way. It’s not like Vick who just never seemed to feel 100% comfortable staying in the pocket. Lamar is staying in the pocket, staying patient, and delivering the ball well. He’s not immediately looking to run anymore. Shocking that a 24 year old player is still developing his game.
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