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Wide open offense - Possible to install this late?

Bob in Newburgh : 10/12/2021 10:35 am
Players much better suited to this - Barkley, Toney, Engram

Probably hurts Hernandez and maybe Price

And to be more exact, I am talking spreading it way out, not necessarily chucking it up every play. I believe that the recent vintage back most comparable to SB was the other LT.

Would love to see plays where Barkley ends up with one defender between him and daylight wide on one side and Toney wide on the other side. Engram, Ross and Golliday to threaten middle if defense biased too much to the outside. Probably too much of a college scheme for our old farts to consider. And yes, not old men, but our staff is a bunch of conservative old farts in scheme.
Everyone and this Barkley bullshit  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 11:04 am : link
Does everyone really think Barkley looks all that comfortable going out for passes? Is that really what you drafted Barkley to do do?

How many drops does he have? I get it you think he’s going to just get the ball inn open space and run in for a TD.

Barley is what he is. A Barry sanders running back who wants to break one every time as a running back. But ends up losing lots of yards ; hardly breaking anything; and avg about 60 yards a game ... and that’s when he isn t hurt which very often

Cut bait this team sucks and has a bunch of over hyped over priced players...

Glennon and freeman and Gallman did this place a huge favor by showing you can pretty much start backups off the scrap pile and get the same product as jones and Barkley... why am I the only one who sees this?

Yes  
Bob in Newburgh : 10/12/2021 11:16 am : link
you are clearly a visionary.

Although I gave a different specific example, Barkley would benefit from running out of a passing type offense rather than a Woody Hayes knockoff.
ha now that's funny  
djm : 10/12/2021 11:18 am : link
the Giants couldn't transition from netflix to hulu in quick turnaround. Changing the offense? yeah right.
I have no idea - question was real  
Bob in Newburgh : 10/12/2021 11:26 am : link
Colleges seem to install stuff for the specific players they recruited weekly, with more restrictive practice rules.

RE: Yes  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15410528 Bob in Newburgh said:
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you are clearly a visionary.

Although I gave a different specific example, Barkley would benefit from running out of a passing type offense rather than a Woody Hayes knockoff.


People like you were biitching about Garrett not letting jones run. You got what you wanted and almost got him killed. I don’t hear those complaints any more about jones not running enough

You’re off your rocker if you think this team is a quick fix from anything... this is a bad football team
RE: Everyone and this Barkley bullshit  
Section331 : 10/12/2021 11:30 am : link
In comment 15410489 Debaser said:
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Does everyone really think Barkley looks all that comfortable going out for passes? Is that really what you drafted Barkley to do do?

How many drops does he have? I get it you think he’s going to just get the ball inn open space and run in for a TD.

Barley is what he is. A Barry sanders running back who wants to break one every time as a running back. But ends up losing lots of yards ; hardly breaking anything; and avg about 60 yards a game ... and that’s when he isn t hurt which very often

Cut bait this team sucks and has a bunch of over hyped over priced players...

Glennon and freeman and Gallman did this place a huge favor by showing you can pretty much start backups off the scrap pile and get the same product as jones and Barkley... why am I the only one who sees this?


Saquon Barkley isn't 1/1,000,000th of Barry Sanders.
RE: RE: Everyone and this Barkley bullshit  
FranknWeezer : 10/12/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15410556 Section331 said:
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Does everyone really think Barkley looks all that comfortable going out for passes? Is that really what you drafted Barkley to do do?

How many drops does he have? I get it you think he’s going to just get the ball inn open space and run in for a TD.

Barley is what he is. A Barry sanders running back who wants to break one every time as a running back. But ends up losing lots of yards ; hardly breaking anything; and avg about 60 yards a game ... and that’s when he isn t hurt which very often

Cut bait this team sucks and has a bunch of over hyped over priced players...

Glennon and freeman and Gallman did this place a huge favor by showing you can pretty much start backups off the scrap pile and get the same product as jones and Barkley... why am I the only one who sees this?




Saquon Barkley isn't 1/1,000,000th of Barry Sanders.


I'm sorry, but didn't Gettleman say he was 'touched by the hand'? You're way out of line here!
RE: RE: Yes  
Mike from Ohio : 10/12/2021 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15410548 Debaser said:
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you are clearly a visionary.

Although I gave a different specific example, Barkley would benefit from running out of a passing type offense rather than a Woody Hayes knockoff.



People like you were biitching about Garrett not letting jones run. You got what you wanted and almost got him killed. I don’t hear those complaints any more about jones not running enough

You’re off your rocker if you think this team is a quick fix from anything... this is a bad football team


Running Jones was not at all the problem. Jones stupidly lowering his head into a defender is why he was injured.

Jones' injury is a result of poor execution by a player, not a poor play call.
Sure-- a wide open offense  
giantstock : 10/12/2021 12:06 pm : link
Remember though you'll have to draft a new QB after the season is over because our QB thinks he's a fullback, and you're going to have him take many more hits now with this wide open offense.

Those that want a wide open offense you realize Jones is going to get killed, right?
RE: RE: RE: Yes  
giantstock : 10/12/2021 12:08 pm : link
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Running Jones was not at all the problem. Jones stupidly lowering his head into a defender is why he was injured.

Jones' injury is a result of poor execution by a player, not a poor play call.


Yes it was. If he wasn't running he wouldn't have been put in that situation and it never would've happened.

Every time a QB runs there is a risk.
Not without  
Beer Man : 10/12/2021 12:15 pm : link
our play makers healthy and on the field
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yes  
Dinger : 10/12/2021 12:28 pm : link
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Running Jones was not at all the problem. Jones stupidly lowering his head into a defender is why he was injured.

Jones' injury is a result of poor execution by a player, not a poor play call.



Yes it was. If he wasn't running he wouldn't have been put in that situation and it never would've happened.

Every time a QB runs there is a risk.

good point but everytime a qb gets the ball whether in the pocket or running there is a risk. We wanted a mobile QB after Eli. We got one. This is what happens to a mobile QB.
RE: Everyone and this Barkley bullshit  
jvm52106 : 10/12/2021 12:55 pm : link
In comment 15410489 Debaser said:
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Does everyone really think Barkley looks all that comfortable going out for passes? Is that really what you drafted Barkley to do do?

How many drops does he have? I get it you think he’s going to just get the ball inn open space and run in for a TD.

Barley is what he is. A Barry sanders running back who wants to break one every time as a running back. But ends up losing lots of yards ; hardly breaking anything; and avg about 60 yards a game ... and that’s when he isn t hurt which very often

Cut bait this team sucks and has a bunch of over hyped over priced players...

Glennon and freeman and Gallman did this place a huge favor by showing you can pretty much start backups off the scrap pile and get the same product as jones and Barkley... why am I the only one who sees this?


The fact that you think Glennon is equal or better than Jones ends any credibility you have (or think you had).
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giantstock : 10/12/2021 1:06 pm : link
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good point but everytime a qb gets the ball whether in the pocket or running there is a risk. We wanted a mobile QB after Eli. We got one. This is what happens to a mobile QB.


Yes but not near the risk than using him as a pseudo-running back. We all say that all it takes for a running back is to take one hit and he is done. Using Jones as a running back is more risk than not.

Yes we love that he is mobile. But intentionally using him as a pseudo-running back is kinda too much.

IMO then need ot tone down running Jones deliberately like a RB.

RE: RE: Everyone and this Barkley bullshit  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 1:14 pm : link
In comment 15410727 jvm52106 said:
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Does everyone really think Barkley looks all that comfortable going out for passes? Is that really what you drafted Barkley to do do?

How many drops does he have? I get it you think he’s going to just get the ball inn open space and run in for a TD.

Barley is what he is. A Barry sanders running back who wants to break one every time as a running back. But ends up losing lots of yards ; hardly breaking anything; and avg about 60 yards a game ... and that’s when he isn t hurt which very often

Cut bait this team sucks and has a bunch of over hyped over priced players...

Glennon and freeman and Gallman did this place a huge favor by showing you can pretty much start backups off the scrap pile and get the same product as jones and Barkley... why am I the only one who sees this?




The fact that you think Glennon is equal or better than Jones ends any credibility you have (or think you had).


What do you really know about Glennon? And what do you really know about Jones? The Giants scored 20 which is mor or less what they score Jones no?
RE: RE: RE: Everyone and this Barkley bullshit  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 1:16 pm : link
And where did I Say Glennon was better than Jones. Jones is a better back-up than Jones but, that is all he is. Is that really less credible than people on here who think he is a top 5 QB in the league
* Jones better backup than Glennon  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 1:17 pm : link
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the Giants are better off  
JohnF : 10/12/2021 1:58 pm : link
Going Single Wing at this point. Our QB's wouldn't survive a wide open offense.
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