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Cards lose Starting TE for season. Engram trade spot?

larryinnewhaven : 10/12/2021 1:09 pm
Maxx Williams who was having a decent season may have tore his ACL. Engram makes sense there in that high tempo O. Time to start reshaping this roster. Again

Forget reshaping the roster  
BillT : 10/12/2021 1:12 pm : link
Just get Engram out of here. It’s embarrassing at this point and that’s with a good performance last Sunday. I don’t know just don’t get why he’s still here.
I was thinking Ertz  
Koffman : 10/12/2021 1:13 pm : link
was a more likely candidate. But sure, get something for EE if you can.
I i get a 3rd for him...  
RAIN : 10/12/2021 1:23 pm : link
i do it. Arizona's pick will be late, and it's worth getting a pick back.

I would consider a fourth, but unless shepard and slayton are back, no deal. Jones needs something to work with.

I do think we need to look at getting some picks to flush this roster with some young talent on D.
Cards have $4.5mm in cap space  
cosmicj : 10/12/2021 1:26 pm : link
On a prorated basis, they can absorb Engrams remaining hit more or less.
RE: I i get a 3rd for him...  
M.S. : 10/12/2021 1:33 pm : link
In comment 15410788 RAIN said:
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i do it. Arizona's pick will be late, and it's worth getting a pick back.

I would consider a fourth, but unless shepard and slayton are back, no deal. Jones needs something to work with.

I do think we need to look at getting some picks to flush this roster with some young talent on D.

Count me in for either a 4th or a 5th. And if pressed, I'll take a 6th. No sweat.
RE: RE: I i get a 3rd for him...  
aquidneck : 10/12/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15410810 M.S. said:
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In comment 15410788 RAIN said:


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i do it. Arizona's pick will be late, and it's worth getting a pick back.

I would consider a fourth, but unless shepard and slayton are back, no deal. Jones needs something to work with.

I do think we need to look at getting some picks to flush this roster with some young talent on D.


Count me in for either a 4th or a 5th. And if pressed, I'll take a 6th. No sweat.


I'd sooner let him walk as a FA at the end of the year. Someone will overpay and we'll end up with a 2023 3rd.
Gettleman is more likely to trade future assets than accumulate them  
j_rud : 10/12/2021 1:37 pm : link
That seat is getting toasty.
Don’t trade anyone  
5BowlsSoon : 10/12/2021 1:42 pm : link
DJ needs all the weapons he can have. Engram and Shepard SHOULD NOT BE TRADED.

First off, Golladay is a China doll, so I’m not counting on much from him. Slayton is one as well. John Ross is known to be out more than to be available.

So don’t trade anyone who can be useful. If you trade Engram and Shepard, and Golladay is out, who do we have to catch the ball?

Toney…..very good
Slayton……mediocre
Ross…..probably on the IR
Rudolph…..old and slow
#15 Johnson…..decent

So again, all we have is one star and a bunch of JAGS.

JONES NEEDS OUR BEST PLAYERS TO PLAY! 5th round draft choices are not anything to write home about.
No talk on the Cards fansite  
Bill in UT : 10/12/2021 1:54 pm : link
about Engram, or anyone, for that matter
RE: Don’t trade anyone  
chick310 : 10/12/2021 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15410835 5BowlsSoon said:
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DJ needs all the weapons he can have. Engram and Shepard SHOULD NOT BE TRADED.

First off, Golladay is a China doll, so I’m not counting on much from him. Slayton is one as well. John Ross is known to be out more than to be available.

So don’t trade anyone who can be useful. If you trade Engram and Shepard, and Golladay is out, who do we have to catch the ball?

Toney…..very good
Slayton……mediocre
Ross…..probably on the IR
Rudolph…..old and slow
#15 Johnson…..decent

So again, all we have is one star and a bunch of JAGS.

JONES NEEDS OUR BEST PLAYERS TO PLAY! 5th round draft choices are not anything to write home about.


Your writing home about Evan Engram?

I will take the player to be named later in the 5th round.
Move Engram  
TommyWiseau : 10/12/2021 2:04 pm : link
To Arizona would be a good move for everyone involved IMO. I’d do it for a 5th
I am starting to rethink  
Blue92 : 10/12/2021 2:05 pm : link
trading some of these players on offense (Shepard, Engram, etc.). Even if we write off the season as a whole, we still need a proper evaluation of Jones and we need to field an actual NFL roster (or close to it) to do that.

Any mid to late draft picks we get for these players won't be as valuable as the information we can collect on how Jones performs with NFL(ish) talent around him.
Parcells had a classic line when they traded to get  
truebluelarry : 10/12/2021 2:30 pm : link
Phil McConkey back from the Cardinals. I don't remember the quote verbatim, but it was along the lines of, "we had to send them a couple of lunch buckets and a blocking dummy for you."
I'd take that in return for Engram in a heartbeat.
......  
Route 9 : 10/12/2021 2:32 pm : link
Lol @ thinking Engram has any value to other teams
RE: Don’t trade anyone  
Tuckrule : 10/12/2021 2:37 pm : link
In comment 15410835 5BowlsSoon said:
Quote:
DJ needs all the weapons he can have. Engram and Shepard SHOULD NOT BE TRADED.

First off, Golladay is a China doll, so I’m not counting on much from him. Slayton is one as well. John Ross is known to be out more than to be available.

So don’t trade anyone who can be useful. If you trade Engram and Shepard, and Golladay is out, who do we have to catch the ball?

Toney…..very good
Slayton……mediocre
Ross…..probably on the IR
Rudolph…..old and slow
#15 Johnson…..decent

So again, all we have is one star and a bunch of JAGS.

JONES NEEDS OUR BEST PLAYERS TO PLAY! 5th round draft choices are not anything to write home about.


I hope this is sarcasm. I truly pray it is
Don't count on it  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/12/2021 3:40 pm : link
In the 2019 lost season he could have traded Jenkins but didn't... then cut him outright after the deadline because he used the dreaded "R" word.
Engram is more highly  
Dave on the UWS : 10/12/2021 3:48 pm : link
thought of around the league than around here
- that’s part of the reason he was voted to the pro bowl last year. If DG was any good at his job, he should be able to get a 3rd now.
Still rather get a starter at another position  
David B. : 10/12/2021 5:02 pm : link
Than draft picks.

Don't see either happening.
RE: RE: Don’t trade anyone  
5BowlsSoon : 10/12/2021 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15410961 Tuckrule said:
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In comment 15410835 5BowlsSoon said:


Quote:


DJ needs all the weapons he can have. Engram and Shepard SHOULD NOT BE TRADED.

First off, Golladay is a China doll, so I’m not counting on much from him. Slayton is one as well. John Ross is known to be out more than to be available.

So don’t trade anyone who can be useful. If you trade Engram and Shepard, and Golladay is out, who do we have to catch the ball?

Toney…..very good
Slayton……mediocre
Ross…..probably on the IR
Rudolph…..old and slow
#15 Johnson…..decent

So again, all we have is one star and a bunch of JAGS.

JONES NEEDS OUR BEST PLAYERS TO PLAY! 5th round draft choices are not anything to write home about.



I hope this is sarcasm. I truly pray it is


It wasn’t. So you tell me what did I say that doesn’t make sense?
RE: Don't count on it  
Route 9 : 10/12/2021 5:41 pm : link
In comment 15411076 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In the 2019 lost season he could have traded Jenkins but didn't... then cut him outright after the deadline because he used the dreaded "R" word.


Lol I forgot about that
We can dream!  
Matt M. : 10/12/2021 8:05 pm : link
But, I doubt it.

I would take absolutely whatever they offer for him.
Cutting Jenkins  
Giants73 : 10/12/2021 8:09 pm : link
Came down from Mara. Not sure how Engram made pro bowl last year he is like the 5th best Te in the division last year. Think everyone here would take Ertz Goddard Schultz and Logan Thomas over him.
I cannot believe we  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/12/2021 9:11 pm : link
signed Rudolph to that deal.

Pathetic.
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