It wasn’t but OL don’t take four years to built either. He promised to put an OL together. Top priority. In the first two years of his tenure he drafted one OL and signed one FA OL. That’s it. In hindsight he should have been fired then.
Like a villain in a 1980s movie in that clip complete with taking credit for the super bowl teams calling her a darling and making 5.5 sacks seem like a big deal. That clip hasn’t certainly aged well. The Giants definitely do resemble Rome as a once great civilization that eventually declined and died.
I'm sure is a good scout and has good traits. But how on earth can you have this guy running your franchise? He has some of the worst traits you want in a leader.
Rome wasn't built in a day, but at some point they made progress
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
RE: some of you get so wrapped up in the shit people say
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
You're right, the team sucks every year because DG sucks at procuring talent.
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
It has sucked for the past 4 season because we have heard his voice. His voice of arrogance that presumed he was always the smartest person in the room...from the get-go in early 2018.
And with it came a ton of mistakes in trying to build this team along his way.
efforts. He said, "Rome wasn't built in a day," which we all know means, give it some time.
Well, time is up. This particular question was about the lack of pass rushers. Have any arrived? Do the Giants get pressure outside of blitzing? I think the answers are obvious.
RE: some of you get so wrapped up in the shit people say
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
If you get the job done, you can get away with sounding like a buffoon.
and he sounds like a buffoons. The two things add up to this much bigger issue of how do you think a guy like this is the right guy to run your team? He struggles to get through a few sentences without either sounding dumb or intentionally antagonizing someone, sometimes both.
Keeping this guy around is the worst decision of a sea of bad decisions from ownership in the last 10 years. Continuing to think this person is a capable leader reflects poorly on anyone that comes within 10 feet of that decision
from the press conference where Shurmur was introduced. I think it was following the 2018 season where he and Shurmur were both acting like they'd made astounding progress.
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
Candidly and disrespectfully in this instance.
You get to be condescending when you have pelts on the wall. DG has not earned the right to be condescending to anyone asking about his team's futility.
Would want to be the GM of this team anyway. John Mara is going to have stipulations, you must keep Judge, you must keep Daniel, you must resign Barkley etc
What an asshole way to respond. I remember it at the time and thought, while I agree (at the time) that's one heck of a way to condescend in your response especially the 'dahlin' part.
Well, almost 3 years later Dave.
Rome wasn't put on hold for 3 months either, pahtnah.
from the press conference where Shurmur was introduced. I think it was following the 2018 season where he and Shurmur were both acting like they'd made astounding progress.
You may be right.
RE: some of you get so wrapped up in the shit people say
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
This isn't just "speaking candidly." He's testy and defensive, and deflects anything resembling criticism with flimsy responses that, like him, don't stand up to an ounce of scrutiny.
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
He does speak candidly. And too many times inaccurately. Embarrassingly so.
Which, IMV, speaks volumes about how he builds and manages a roster. Thus, our horrible record under his guidance.
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
I don't think anyone has ever argued this. I'd be the first person to tell you I don't care as long as they win (to a point. Don't be a terrible human being).
being launched out of a cannon into the Hackensack River. They should do it during the Cowboys game at Metlife. Maybe fans will not sell their seats to Cowboys Aholes and we would have a home field advantage. It would definitely be a sellout!!!
efforts. He said, "Rome wasn't built in a day," which we all know means, give it some time.
Well, time is up. This particular question was about the lack of pass rushers. Have any arrived? Do the Giants get pressure outside of blitzing? I think the answers are obvious.
from the press conference where Shurmur was introduced. I think it was following the 2018 season where he and Shurmur were both acting like they'd made astounding progress.
This was in April 2019, the night Jones, Lawrence & Baker were drafted. Kim Jones was questioning the decision to pass on a pass rusher, presumably Josh Allen.
Usually don't love seeing people get fired even if they're bad at their jobs. Gettleman is an exception. He's an arrogant slob. I'd be happy to see him fired with prejudice.
Usually don't love seeing people get fired even if they're bad at their jobs. Gettleman is an exception. He's an arrogant slob. I'd be happy to see him fired with prejudice.
I never like seeing anyone fired. I was laid off once and it sucks.
But Gettleman deserves to get the boot. This is a business & he's been awful @ his job.
Usually don't love seeing people get fired even if they're bad at their jobs. Gettleman is an exception. He's an arrogant slob. I'd be happy to see him fired with prejudice.
from the press conference where Shurmur was introduced. I think it was following the 2018 season where he and Shurmur were both acting like they'd made astounding progress.
This was in April 2019, the night Jones, Lawrence & Baker were drafted. Kim Jones was questioning the decision to pass on a pass rusher, presumably Josh Allen.
Mr. Gettleman had a similar response after the 2020 NFL Draft.
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GM Dave Gettleman said after last week’s NFL Draft that while the Giants didn’t draft “a blue-goose pass rusher,” he believes the pass rush will be OK because he trusts the Giants’ defensive scheme to help create pressure and “a lot of the time it’s a group effort.”
“We feel good about where we’re at, but we’ll continue to try to improve it,” he said. “We’re going to take a look at what we’ve got, and part of it’s going to be scheme. I’ve got a lot of confidence in (defensive coordinator) Pat Graham and Joe (Judge) and the defensive guys. We’re going to be fine. It’ll get better.
“It’s not about who gets the sacks,” he added. “It’s about the number of sacks and the number of pressures.”
For KC the other night. Think we are going to see they cut ties too quickly on him. Also, if your coach is requesting DBs and indicating they can do it the Patriots Way without edge rushers, that is on the coaching staff. They have been given good secondary players.
RE: RE: Gettleman is a fat, stupid, condescending prick
You probably wrote this in jest...I know that people connected with the Giants (players/families of players) have openly admitted they post...members of the media have accounts here...
BUT..I wonder...how many actual Giants employees have accounts here at BBI and actually post to control/manipulate narratives OR just post because....
For KC the other night. Think we are going to see they cut ties too quickly on him. Also, if your coach is requesting DBs and indicating they can do it the Patriots Way without edge rushers, that is on the coaching staff. They have been given good secondary players.
I know you can't evaluate a single player's performance based on the entire unit, but KC did give up 315 yds and 3 TD's passing, and ranks 28th in passing D. I'm not sure how much we'll be missing Baker.
RE: some of you get so wrapped up in the shit people say
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
Actually, it might be.
His arrogance might very well be part and parcel related to his inability to adapt.
RE: RE: some of you get so wrapped up in the shit people say
who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
Actually, it might be.
His arrogance might very well be part and parcel related to his inability to adapt.
You may be correct here. His “It all depends on how quickly the puppies come along” statement screams "I've done a great job selecting players. I can't help it if the coaches can't get them up to speed in a reasonable time frame."
We're not looking for Rome anymore, Pops. Maybe give us Wichita?
Don't let the door hit you.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
You're right, the team sucks every year because DG sucks at procuring talent.
The guy has run the gamut of ineptitude.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
It has sucked for the past 4 season because we have heard his voice. His voice of arrogance that presumed he was always the smartest person in the room...from the get-go in early 2018.
And with it came a ton of mistakes in trying to build this team along his way.
Well, time is up. This particular question was about the lack of pass rushers. Have any arrived? Do the Giants get pressure outside of blitzing? I think the answers are obvious.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
If you get the job done, you can get away with sounding like a buffoon.
Gettleman doesn't get the job done.
Because, I'm no history professor, but that was like five centuries.
Gettleman, doesn't mean he needs five centuries, right? Because, I'm learning to take nothing for granted.
Keeping this guy around is the worst decision of a sea of bad decisions from ownership in the last 10 years. Continuing to think this person is a capable leader reflects poorly on anyone that comes within 10 feet of that decision
Because, I'm no history professor, but that was like five centuries.
Gettleman, doesn't mean he needs five centuries, right? Because, I'm learning to take nothing for granted.
Ww talking Rome the city or Rome the empire?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
Candidly and disrespectfully in this instance.
You get to be condescending when you have pelts on the wall. DG has not earned the right to be condescending to anyone asking about his team's futility.
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how long it took Rome to be built?
Because, I'm no history professor, but that was like five centuries.
Gettleman, doesn't mean he needs five centuries, right? Because, I'm learning to take nothing for granted.
Ww talking Rome the city or Rome the empire?
exxxxxxactly.
Quite frankly I am looking for John Mara emails
What an asshole way to respond. I remember it at the time and thought, while I agree (at the time) that's one heck of a way to condescend in your response especially the 'dahlin' part.
Well, almost 3 years later Dave.
Rome wasn't put on hold for 3 months either, pahtnah.
You may be right.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
This isn't just "speaking candidly." He's testy and defensive, and deflects anything resembling criticism with flimsy responses that, like him, don't stand up to an ounce of scrutiny.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
He does speak candidly. And too many times inaccurately. Embarrassingly so.
Which, IMV, speaks volumes about how he builds and manages a roster. Thus, our horrible record under his guidance.
This team needs impact defense players which is shocking with all the resources allocated.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
I don't think anyone has ever argued this. I'd be the first person to tell you I don't care as long as they win (to a point. Don't be a terrible human being).
I don’t know enough about his tenure as a Panther, but he’s clearly at the level of his incompetence with the Giants.
Well, time is up. This particular question was about the lack of pass rushers. Have any arrived? Do the Giants get pressure outside of blitzing? I think the answers are obvious.
Giants don't even get pressure WITH blitzing.
This was in April 2019, the night Jones, Lawrence & Baker were drafted. Kim Jones was questioning the decision to pass on a pass rusher, presumably Josh Allen.
I never like seeing anyone fired. I was laid off once and it sucks.
But Gettleman deserves to get the boot. This is a business & he's been awful @ his job.
*Mr. Gettleman
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from the press conference where Shurmur was introduced. I think it was following the 2018 season where he and Shurmur were both acting like they'd made astounding progress.
This was in April 2019, the night Jones, Lawrence & Baker were drafted. Kim Jones was questioning the decision to pass on a pass rusher, presumably Josh Allen.
Mr. Gettleman had a similar response after the 2020 NFL Draft.
GM Dave Gettleman said after last week’s NFL Draft that while the Giants didn’t draft “a blue-goose pass rusher,” he believes the pass rush will be OK because he trusts the Giants’ defensive scheme to help create pressure and “a lot of the time it’s a group effort.”
“We feel good about where we’re at, but we’ll continue to try to improve it,” he said. “We’re going to take a look at what we’ve got, and part of it’s going to be scheme. I’ve got a lot of confidence in (defensive coordinator) Pat Graham and Joe (Judge) and the defensive guys. We’re going to be fine. It’ll get better.
“It’s not about who gets the sacks,” he added. “It’s about the number of sacks and the number of pressures.”
Giants risk a lot by trusting coaches’ scheme to create pass rush - ( New Window )
The he's probably secretly posting here on BBI.
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The he's probably secretly posting here on BBI.
You probably wrote this in jest...I know that people connected with the Giants (players/families of players) have openly admitted they post...members of the media have accounts here...
BUT..I wonder...how many actual Giants employees have accounts here at BBI and actually post to control/manipulate narratives OR just post because....
I never like seeing anyone fired. I was laid off once and it sucks.
But Gettleman deserves to get the boot. This is a business & he's been awful @ his job.
He's 70 years old, and has made a fair amount of money in his career. This isn't like a minimum wage mother of 3 getting fired.
I know you can't evaluate a single player's performance based on the entire unit, but KC did give up 315 yds and 3 TD's passing, and ranks 28th in passing D. I'm not sure how much we'll be missing Baker.
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
Actually, it might be.
His arrogance might very well be part and parcel related to his inability to adapt.
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who cares? If DG said kiss my ass everyone, but the Giants won? No one would care. If he comes out every day and offers up the most concise and heartfelt words of wisdom only to see the team go 6-11 every year who cares?
DG just speaks candidly. That's not why this team sucks every year.
Actually, it might be.
His arrogance might very well be part and parcel related to his inability to adapt.
You may be correct here. His “It all depends on how quickly the puppies come along” statement screams "I've done a great job selecting players. I can't help it if the coaches can't get them up to speed in a reasonable time frame."