Second round pick of the Chargers in 2017. Liked him coming out of college, but he’s suffered from injuries and some shaky play. Given the state on the interior OL, probably worth a shot. Link - ( New Window )
The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
They passed up two very NFL I
OL Llevel players in Ryan Ramzck and Cam Robinson. Worse TJ Watt was there. But BBI and the Jerry Reese loons somehow made excuses passing on guys w more talent than another "upside" player we didn't need
RE: RE: Lamp was on my short list of names when the Giants were up
The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
They passed up two very NFL I
OL Llevel players in Ryan Ramzck and Cam Robinson. Worse TJ Watt was there. But BBI and the Jerry Reese loons somehow made excuses passing on guys w more talent than another "upside" player we didn't need
A bit of revisionism here. Cam Robinson didn't go in the first round. In fact, he nearly fell out of the 2nd round as well. As for Ramczyk, he had a hip injury coming out. I'm not surprised we passed on him. He's been extremely durable since being drafted, but I'm not picking a guy with a hip injury in the first round either. More often than not, those guys have short careers.
Giants drafted Engram because they felt it would get teams
out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
RE: Giants drafted Engram because they felt it would get teams
out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
You're right. My recollection was C. Robinson went bottom of the 2nd round. Settle down.
But let's not pretend Ramczyk was some sure-fire pick. He had red flags.
out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
You're right. My recollection was C. Robinson went bottom of the 2nd round. Settle down.
But let's not pretend Ramczyk was some sure-fire pick. He had red flags.
He was dealing with a hip injury thru that spring of the Draft, but he was a highly rated Tackle out of Wisconsin by almost everyone.
Oh, and he's only been an All-Pro since he's been in the NFL.
He certainly became a sure-fire great pick if he wasn't back then...
out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
Welcome back, Jimmy. Be a good boy, lol
Yes, I have to refrain from including political content in my posts, even by accident. Those are the site rules and I have been warned.
RE: RE: RE: Giants drafted Engram because they felt it would get teams
out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
Welcome back, Jimmy. Be a good boy, lol
Yes, I have to refrain from including political content in my posts, even by accident. Those are the site rules and I have been warned.
welcome back. When I got back from detention you weren't here and I was sad.
was on my list along with Robinson. I remember more than 1 draft source was making Zack Martin comparisons. I completely understood passing on Ramczyk because of the hip, but coming off a season and playoff appearance with a suspect OL a significant addition had to be made and wasn't. Unless you count the low round selection of Adam Bisnowaty and signing Chad Ward as an UDFA. If the injury woes are behind him let's see what he's got. We're taking a flyer on Wilson. Why not take a second?
RE: RE: RE: Lamp was on my short list of names when the Giants were up
The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
They passed up two very NFL I
OL Llevel players in Ryan Ramzck and Cam Robinson. Worse TJ Watt was there. But BBI and the Jerry Reese loons somehow made excuses passing on guys w more talent than another "upside" player we didn't need
A bit of revisionism here. Cam Robinson didn't go in the first round. In fact, he nearly fell out of the 2nd round as well. As for Ramczyk, he had a hip injury coming out. I'm not surprised we passed on him. He's been extremely durable since being drafted, but I'm not picking a guy with a hip injury in the first round either. More often than not, those guys have short careers.
Robinson went 2nd pick 2nd. Revisionist history when both guys went 7 to 9 picks later? Robinson really almost fell. Not. The Google before lying to make a point Ryan last pic rd 1. Reese was one of the worst GMs after his fist 2-3 years. Guy sucked and ruined Eli's last years. Period. Passed on two starter level guys for another bust.
Please don't tell me Watt wasnt good enough of they didn't need LBs
major role in winning two Super Bowls. Saying he sucked is like saying Coughlin sucked because his last 3-4 years were bad. Sometimes it's just time to move on.
I still contend the biggest issue with this franchise is being unable to find the right head coach. Games are close in the NFL, coaching is HUGE.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamp was on my short list of names when the Giants were up
Robinson went 2nd pick 2nd. Revisionist history when both guys went 7 to 9 picks later? Robinson really almost fell. Not. The Google before lying to make a point Ryan last pic rd 1. Reese was one of the worst GMs after his fist 2-3 years. Guy sucked and ruined Eli's last years. Period. Passed on two starter level guys for another bust.
Please don't tell me Watt wasnt good enough of they didn't need LBs
Reese sucked and so did your post
I have already admitted my recollection was off as it relates to Cam Robinson. You want to spike the football, go right ahead.
No one knew Cam Robinson was a sure-fire pick. He was NOT the consensus top-rated tackle, and was arrested on a weapons charge that was later dropped. Not a clean prospect by any means. If he were, he would have gone in the first half of the first round and top 5 if we redrafted today.
And as mentioned before, RR was coming out with a hip injury. In retrospect, it hasn't affected him at the pro level, but I can't fault an organization passing on a guy with a hip injury - particularly an OT whose power to drive in run blocking and anchoring in pass protection is derived from the legs and hips. They did a risk assessment as they do with all picks and elected to go elsewhere. More often than not, guys with hip conditions have short careers. You are not a doctor. You were not privy to the xrays.
It's neat how brilliant we can be with 4 years of hindsight on a draft. Kudos for going out on a limb with such conviction on these two players. You're like the Mike Mayock of southern FLA.
The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
We might need one better than Dixon to get some boomers or good deep placements, given our O.
The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
Just a few short feet from each other as well!
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The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
They passed up two very NFL I
OL Llevel players in Ryan Ramzck and Cam Robinson. Worse TJ Watt was there. But BBI and the Jerry Reese loons somehow made excuses passing on guys w more talent than another "upside" player we didn't need
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The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
They passed up two very NFL I
OL Llevel players in Ryan Ramzck and Cam Robinson. Worse TJ Watt was there. But BBI and the Jerry Reese loons somehow made excuses passing on guys w more talent than another "upside" player we didn't need
A bit of revisionism here. Cam Robinson didn't go in the first round. In fact, he nearly fell out of the 2nd round as well. As for Ramczyk, he had a hip injury coming out. I'm not surprised we passed on him. He's been extremely durable since being drafted, but I'm not picking a guy with a hip injury in the first round either. More often than not, those guys have short careers.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
You're right. My recollection was C. Robinson went bottom of the 2nd round. Settle down.
But let's not pretend Ramczyk was some sure-fire pick. He had red flags.
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out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
You're right. My recollection was C. Robinson went bottom of the 2nd round. Settle down.
But let's not pretend Ramczyk was some sure-fire pick. He had red flags.
He was dealing with a hip injury thru that spring of the Draft, but he was a highly rated Tackle out of Wisconsin by almost everyone.
Oh, and he's only been an All-Pro since he's been in the NFL.
He certainly became a sure-fire great pick if he wasn't back then...
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Giants got a look, and sounds like nothing is imminent with regard to signing Lamp.
But it plays like Forrest Gump.
BA dum.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
Welcome back, Jimmy. Be a good boy, lol
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out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
Welcome back, Jimmy. Be a good boy, lol
Yes, I have to refrain from including political content in my posts, even by accident. Those are the site rules and I have been warned.
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In comment 15411295 Jimmy Googs said:
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out of Deep Cover 2 coverages that were hindering OBJ. The problem was Engram was a fast guy who was never a real football player. But those flaws were overlooked with his speed.
The pick needed to be Ramczyk or Robinson indeed as OL was weak and these two were best on board.
And Robinson went overall #34, so what are you talking about that he nearly fell out of Rd 2?
Welcome back, Jimmy. Be a good boy, lol
Yes, I have to refrain from including political content in my posts, even by accident. Those are the site rules and I have been warned.
welcome back. When I got back from detention you weren't here and I was sad.
Don’t sleep on Forrest!
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in 2017 Draft.
The Giants went with match-up nightmare Evan Engram instead of OL nightmare Lamp.
Now, we might have the luxury of both nightmares...
They passed up two very NFL I
OL Llevel players in Ryan Ramzck and Cam Robinson. Worse TJ Watt was there. But BBI and the Jerry Reese loons somehow made excuses passing on guys w more talent than another "upside" player we didn't need
A bit of revisionism here. Cam Robinson didn't go in the first round. In fact, he nearly fell out of the 2nd round as well. As for Ramczyk, he had a hip injury coming out. I'm not surprised we passed on him. He's been extremely durable since being drafted, but I'm not picking a guy with a hip injury in the first round either. More often than not, those guys have short careers.
Robinson went 2nd pick 2nd. Revisionist history when both guys went 7 to 9 picks later? Robinson really almost fell. Not. The Google before lying to make a point Ryan last pic rd 1. Reese was one of the worst GMs after his fist 2-3 years. Guy sucked and ruined Eli's last years. Period. Passed on two starter level guys for another bust.
Please don't tell me Watt wasnt good enough of they didn't need LBs
Reese sucked and so did your post
I still contend the biggest issue with this franchise is being unable to find the right head coach. Games are close in the NFL, coaching is HUGE.
Robinson went 2nd pick 2nd. Revisionist history when both guys went 7 to 9 picks later? Robinson really almost fell. Not. The Google before lying to make a point Ryan last pic rd 1. Reese was one of the worst GMs after his fist 2-3 years. Guy sucked and ruined Eli's last years. Period. Passed on two starter level guys for another bust.
Please don't tell me Watt wasnt good enough of they didn't need LBs
Reese sucked and so did your post
I have already admitted my recollection was off as it relates to Cam Robinson. You want to spike the football, go right ahead.
No one knew Cam Robinson was a sure-fire pick. He was NOT the consensus top-rated tackle, and was arrested on a weapons charge that was later dropped. Not a clean prospect by any means. If he were, he would have gone in the first half of the first round and top 5 if we redrafted today.
And as mentioned before, RR was coming out with a hip injury. In retrospect, it hasn't affected him at the pro level, but I can't fault an organization passing on a guy with a hip injury - particularly an OT whose power to drive in run blocking and anchoring in pass protection is derived from the legs and hips. They did a risk assessment as they do with all picks and elected to go elsewhere. More often than not, guys with hip conditions have short careers. You are not a doctor. You were not privy to the xrays.
It's neat how brilliant we can be with 4 years of hindsight on a draft. Kudos for going out on a limb with such conviction on these two players. You're like the Mike Mayock of southern FLA.