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Indication that Daniel Jones won't be available this week

Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/12/2021 9:13 pm
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

Giants practice squad protections this week:

QB Brian Lewerke
WR Dante Pettis
OL Korey Cunningham
DL David Moa

Had to protect Lewerke since he becomes QB2 if Jones isn’t cleared for Sunday.
not a surprise  
Del Shofner : 10/12/2021 9:17 pm : link
over here
Jones durability is a major concern  
Sean : 10/12/2021 9:18 pm : link
— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.
I’d be surprised  
mattlawson : 10/12/2021 9:20 pm : link
If he was available tbh
Honestly, it would be irresponsible if he played  
Matt M. : 10/12/2021 9:25 pm : link
But, I can't see him being cleated and he may miss more than this week.
Eli's gone  
David B. : 10/12/2021 9:29 pm : link
The Giants are going nowhere this year. Let Jones get right. And maybe learn how to fucking SLIDE.

RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
outeiroj : 10/12/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15411468 Sean said:
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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.


this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
GMen72 : 10/12/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15411468 Sean said:
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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.


QBs that need to run to be successful tend to get hurt.

Let him sit until Thomas gets healthy. I'm not a Jones fan, but I'd be cool if we gave him another year and didn't waste our 2 1sts in a terrible QB draft.
RE: Eli's gone  
robbieballs2003 : 10/12/2021 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15411474 David B. said:
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The Giants are going nowhere this year. Let Jones get right. And maybe learn how to fucking SLIDE.


This is a ridiculous take. No QB is sliding in the situation he was in. He didn't get hurt because he didn't slide.
The wobbling made it look bad  
Giants73 : 10/12/2021 9:44 pm : link
But him getting up immediately and trying to get back the huddle, probably added to the way it looked on the field. Seen this a few times during our HS games. It’s 50/50 if it turns out bad or not. Some of the worst looking ones have zero effect an hour later. Giants should know at this point whether he will be playing or not. Could be playing possum?
Who cares  
Route 9 : 10/12/2021 9:53 pm : link
Season is done with. Let's turn our eyes to Toney. One thing I want to see is him taking sone swings at maybe some players on Philly or Dallas or even ...

Judge perhaps?

Get mean and break some other player's legs.
RE: RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
joeinpa : 10/12/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15411475 outeiroj said:
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In comment 15411468 Sean said:


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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.



this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens


This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
RE: Who cares  
joeinpa : 10/12/2021 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15411495 Route 9 said:
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Season is done with. Let's turn our eyes to Toney. One thing I want to see is him taking sone swings at maybe some players on Philly or Dallas or even ...

Judge perhaps?

Get mean and break some other player's legs.


I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
RE: RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
Bear vs Shark : 10/12/2021 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15411475 outeiroj said:
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In comment 15411468 Sean said:


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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.



this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
Yeah, it's happening too fucking often.
I believe the protocol would only clear him Sat (?) so they have to  
Eric on Li : 10/12/2021 10:00 pm : link
move forward as if any concussed player isn't playing until they clear the protocol. So I'm not sure this is an indication of anything other than the fact that he's in the protocol and they don't control when he gets out.

As much as I hope they are careful with him let's remember the best thing would be that he's cleared from the protocol because that means as bad as it looked it may not have been anything beyond a typical concussion and that he's had no problematic symptoms.
Makes sense  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/12/2021 10:10 pm : link
Concussion protocols are out of the team's hands, he has to be cleared by a third party. They have to operate as if he isn't there.
Many of you don't realize how spoiled we were with Eli  
JOrthman : 10/12/2021 10:12 pm : link
Most QB's miss games here and there.
Not a surprise.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2021 10:14 pm : link
He misses games every year. Ditto Barkley.
When a QB leads with head  
Giant John : 10/12/2021 10:22 pm : link
Bad things will happen. Slide ya gotta slide feet first.
A lot of QBs miss time  
Giants73 : 10/12/2021 10:26 pm : link
Rodgers and Roethlisberger come to mind as two that have had several injuries and missed games in a lot of seasons. Stafford was hurt in his first two years missing time then played like 6 or 7 seasons in a row without missing a game.
RE: RE: Who cares  
Route 9 : 10/12/2021 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15411498 joeinpa said:
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I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.


Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.

Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
RE: RE: RE: Who cares  
BSIMatt : 10/12/2021 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15411519 Route 9 said:
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I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.



Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.

Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.


Yeah, if we just had a better qb in those 31 games we’d probably be 22-9 and have a couple trips to the playoffs. Good to know Giants are just one player away.
......  
Route 9 : 10/12/2021 10:42 pm : link
Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?

What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.

Meh.
I  
AcidTest : 10/12/2021 11:18 pm : link
wouldn't let him play this week or next. Period.
RE: RE: RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
Debaser : 10/12/2021 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15411496 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15411468 Sean said:


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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.



this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens



This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year


Why is everything with you a put down of Eli and the random pumping up of jones?
RE: ......  
Producer : 10/13/2021 12:52 am : link
In comment 15411532 Route 9 said:
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Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?

What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.

Meh.


The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
......  
Route 9 : 10/13/2021 1:15 am : link
Yep. I do want him to do well....

I don't see it happening.
...  
broadbandz : 10/13/2021 1:19 am : link
i think he's gonna play.
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Debaser : 10/13/2021 6:38 am : link
In comment 15411595 Producer said:
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Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?

What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.

Meh.



The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.



Seriously... what has changed since draft nights when journalists and football executives were like WTF ? Three years have passed and were still waiting to see if gettle was some kinda closet genius who saw something no one else did.... but it’s becoming obvious gettle was just a moron who screwed up an important pick on a guy with a pea shooter arm and not much else.

The only thing I can think of is that he saw that concussion play inbjones. Not the boneheadedness but the never give up and put your body at risk and squeak out a couple meaningless wins to save shura and gettle Jon. Otherwise I expect the same same 20 pts from this offense and a loss from Glennon.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/13/2021 6:44 am : link
I doubt he plays.
Why do people get mad  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 7:06 am : link
when someone says they want to see Jones play and do well? i dont get it shouldnt all Giants fans wsnt him to play well?

The amount of hate Jones gets on a GIANTS message board is bafflig to me it is like some posters want jones to fail..
and i love how people rewrite Elis history  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 7:11 am : link
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...

stop rewriting history
RE: RE: RE: ......  
mattnyg05 : 10/13/2021 7:12 am : link
In comment 15411619 Debaser said:
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Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?

What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.

Meh.



The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.





Seriously... what has changed since draft nights when journalists and football executives were like WTF ? Three years have passed and were still waiting to see if gettle was some kinda closet genius who saw something no one else did.... but it’s becoming obvious gettle was just a moron who screwed up an important pick on a guy with a pea shooter arm and not much else.

The only thing I can think of is that he saw that concussion play inbjones. Not the boneheadedness but the never give up and put your body at risk and squeak out a couple meaningless wins to save shura and gettle Jon. Otherwise I expect the same same 20 pts from this offense and a loss from Glennon.


They thought he was a major reach at 6, not an undraftable scrub like you seem to believe.
RE: RE: RE: Who cares  
joeinpa : 10/13/2021 7:22 am : link
In comment 15411519 Route 9 said:
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I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.



Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.

Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.


I watch and root for wins, and you seem to think that s silly. Your take here is ridiculous.
RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history  
Debaser : 10/13/2021 7:33 am : link
In comment 15411624 nygiants16 said:
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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...

stop rewriting history



THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.

Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field

how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
RE: RE: RE: RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
joeinpa : 10/13/2021 7:38 am : link
In comment 15411578 Debaser said:
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In comment 15411468 Sean said:


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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.

This is a concern.



this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens



This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year



Why is everything with you a put down of Eli and the random pumping up of jones?


I loved Eli, I was in his corner when many were not. I however do get annoyed with the inconsistencies by which Jones is judged as compared to Eli.

We heard often when the Giants stopped winning with Eli how the Giants ruined the last half of his career.

With Jones we hear how he can’t elevate his teammates to wins.

I guess my criticisms of Eli are based more at those posters who gave Eli a pass for some of the things used to debase Jones

Yes I get Eli won two championships, but there was a lot of losing with him too. He never gets blamed for the losing by some that hold Daniel to a different standard

Pus what I stated is true, Eli s streak was remarkable, but he never put his body out there to make a play like Jones, true or not.

I m not saying he should have either, but that s part of Daniel s game. He sa great athlete that plays with physicality, and he gets bashed for it here.

I loved Eli, and I am 100% behind Daniel too
the "he should slide" comments are ridiculous.  
Victor in CT : 10/13/2021 7:45 am : link
nobody is sliding at the goal line. middle of the field? definitely. In that spot he and anyone else are going for the TD. He's trying to score and lead his team.
RE: RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 7:47 am : link
In comment 15411630 Debaser said:
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In comment 15411624 nygiants16 said:


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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...

stop rewriting history




THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.

Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field

how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald


Stop making shit up, so you knew Eli was the guy halfway through his 3rd year? BS, Eli was inconsistent and a turnvoer machine in his 3rd year..

Also the game against Roethlesburger was in their rookie year and Ben was a passenger on that team, stop acting like he was a top qb in that game..

and i love Eli and i always will be grateful for the 2 superbowls  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 7:50 am : link
but this notion we knew what Eli was going into his 3rd year is an outright lie, and simpky not true..

Even the most optimistic fan had questions about Eli that year..

and I am sire Debaser who roots for losses was definitely not sold on Eli
We have been spoiled by Eli and Collins.  
Bubba : 10/13/2021 7:57 am : link
Both were very durable.
RE: RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 7:59 am : link
In comment 15411630 Debaser said:
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In comment 15411624 nygiants16 said:


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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...

stop rewriting history




THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.

Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field

how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald


and your 40-50 yards down the field comment is laughable, Eli threw for 182 yards that day on 23 attempts, again stop rewriting history
RE: RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history  
joeinpa : 10/13/2021 8:12 am : link
In comment 15411630 Debaser said:
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In comment 15411624 nygiants16 said:


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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...

stop rewriting history




THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.

Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field

how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald


Daniel Jones has played well this year by most accounts. That you continue to classify it as struggling is very revealing.

To bad Debaser  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 8:13 am : link
cant delete his comments like he deletes his threads when he makes shit up
I remember being sold on Eli in his first year on maybe this play  
Debaser : 10/13/2021 8:25 am : link
@2:17

But you're right about everything I never really likes Eli
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RE: I remember being sold on Eli in his first year on maybe this play  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15411678 Debaser said:
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But you're right about everything I never really likes Eli Link - ( New Window )


whatever you say man
I am sure you were sold  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 8:29 am : link
and his 18 ints a season for his first 3 years
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Jones durability is a major concern  
Debaser : 10/13/2021 9:32 am : link
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I guess my criticisms of Eli are based more at those posters who gave Eli a pass for some of the things used to debase Jones

Yes I get Eli won two championships, but there was a lot of losing with him too. He never gets blamed for the losing by some that hold Daniel to a different standard


You really don't get how someone in the twilight of their career who you have to pay 10s of millions to should be judged a little different than a rookie?

Firstly the line has been awful for how long now? Second, Eli's #1 receiver was Shep a really mediocre and over paid player and before that a total headcase Odel who lost a step along the way. Every year they sign some free agent to get Jones "weapons" to the tune of 10s of millions of dollars and every year for 2 years now, it has been the same shit of bad red zone / few TDs and a lot of L's in the losses column.

If you were really serious about Eli you would have drafted Qneton Nelson and signed some free agent wide out for him. And yea I would think spending a draft pick on protecting Eli -- someone who may have lost a step in the pocket is a littl more reasonable to me than a rookie who is supposedly mobile but can't run and throw well. But that guy of all things needs a goldielox pocket to pass in ; needs a #2 running back needs this and that
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Route 9 : 10/13/2021 9:34 am : link
That is a good point. I do think Jones was a reach at 6, oh, I do.

Is he a bum? No. I think he'd be a good back up QB somewhere else. He plays hard, doesn't seem like a pain in the ass, he'll give you his best and is fast.

Rams, Bucs, Chiefs or Packers or whatever. Maybe can step in for a game or two ... but ... nothing more.

But uh ... I've seen enough.
RE: Eli's gone  
BlueHurricane : 10/13/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15411474 David B. said:
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The Giants are going nowhere this year. Let Jones get right. And maybe learn how to fucking SLIDE.


Sliding when your only option is to make the corner pylon is not an option. The play call was/is the problem.

If anything, once he knew it was going to be contested he should have thrown the ball out of the back of the endzone. That play needs to be a walk in TD otherwise it is too risky. If he slides he loses at least a yard and probably more. Still pissd that with half an inch to go and two downs that is a play they decided to run.
RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history  
BMac : 10/13/2021 11:24 am : link
In comment 15411624 nygiants16 said:
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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...

stop rewriting history


Pretty much the same crowd who are now dissing Jones. See a pattern here?
RE: ......  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/13/2021 11:29 am : link
In comment 15411758 Route 9 said:
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That is a good point. I do think Jones was a reach at 6, oh, I do.

Is he a bum? No. I think he'd be a good back up QB somewhere else. He plays hard, doesn't seem like a pain in the ass, he'll give you his best and is fast.

Rams, Bucs, Chiefs or Packers or whatever. Maybe can step in for a game or two ... but ... nothing more.

But uh ... I've seen enough.


Lol he was offensive player of the week last week and you've seen enough.
You jones homers are something else  
Debaser : 10/13/2021 11:43 am : link
This is a straw man argument....you impatient fans hated Eli too so now you’ll hate jones.

First off Eli is not jones. Eli was better jones.

Second I don’t believe jones fared well with his Peers. Jones is still in training wheels mode ; playing not to turn the ball over and having the occasional good game while forgetting the bad play. And sorry that not the same as josh and Lamar in full throttle mvp candidate and putting out amazing performances oh yea and winning a bunch of games along the way

You jones boosters want to blame Garrett. Garrett knows exactly what’s he’s doing ; sparing jones and the giants from embarrassing losses and benchworthy performances from jones. And where would they go from there ? Make Glennon their starting QBs?
RE: You jones homers are something else  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 11:50 am : link
In comment 15411958 Debaser said:
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This is a straw man argument....you impatient fans hated Eli too so now you’ll hate jones.

First off Eli is not jones. Eli was better jones.

Second I don’t believe jones fared well with his Peers. Jones is still in training wheels mode ; playing not to turn the ball over and having the occasional good game while forgetting the bad play. And sorry that not the same as josh and Lamar in full throttle mvp candidate and putting out amazing performances oh yea and winning a bunch of games along the way

You jones boosters want to blame Garrett. Garrett knows exactly what’s he’s doing ; sparing jones and the giants from embarrassing losses and benchworthy performances from jones. And where would they go from there ? Make Glennon their starting QBs?


Shouldnt everyone be a Jones fan? Shouldnt we all want him to do well and succeed? i dont get the distinciton, so because we want Jones to succeed we are Jones homers? no we are giants fans and if Jones succeeds that is good for the Giants..

You are not a giants fan, you would rather Jones suck and you be right than Jones sicceed and be wrong..

you are the worst type of "fan" there is a diffrrence between being negative and just blatantly rooting against the giants..

You are a fake fan and shouldnt even be posting on a giants message board, go root for another team because you clearly dont like the Giants
I like the giants  
Debaser : 10/13/2021 12:06 pm : link
But what is the point of another 6 win season?

Do you really think they’ll win anything?

What is the point of jones playing well now that the season is over?

To just delay the inevitable? I say much better to nip this in the bud that’s deal with “look he threw for 4 TDs against Washington again “ a new record!

The time to play well was last week when the d recovered a fumble

Just like the time for Eli to step up was when they were 0-2 and their season on the line against the broncos or whoever it was.

The best thing for them is to go 0-17 and clean out
RE: I like the giants  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15412014 Debaser said:
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But what is the point of another 6 win season?

Do you really think they’ll win anything?

What is the point of jones playing well now that the season is over?

To just delay the inevitable? I say much better to nip this in the bud that’s deal with “look he threw for 4 TDs against Washington again “ a new record!

The time to play well was last week when the d recovered a fumble

Just like the time for Eli to step up was when they were 0-2 and their season on the line against the broncos or whoever it was.

The best thing for them is to go 0-17 and clean out


Good enjoy rooting for your losses, but dont be calling people Jones Homers becaise they want to see the kid succeed..

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Route 9 : 10/13/2021 12:16 pm : link
Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.
Not sure how anyone can claim...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/13/2021 1:18 pm : link
That protecting the practice squad QB is an indication that Daniel Jones won't be available this week.

It could simply mean that the Giants are protecting themselves JUST IN CASE Jones is not available to play...which would be a smart move even if the team thought that there was a good chance that Jones would be cleared to play.
RE: ......  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/13/2021 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15412030 Route 9 said:
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Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.


The mystery is, why didn't Glennon come in and light it up? If Jones is so bad, other QBs should be thriving when given the opportunity. Instead we have seen Eli, McCoy, and Glennon play with mediocrity in his stead. These are all guys who have won games in the NFL. Guys who have all been shown to have good games. If Jones is holding this team back and he is what his record is...if it's not Garrett...I should expect to see an improvement with Glennon in, no?
RE: Why do people get mad  
Scuzzlebutt : 10/13/2021 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15411622 nygiants16 said:
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when someone says they want to see Jones play and do well? i dont get it shouldnt all Giants fans wsnt him to play well?

The amount of hate Jones gets on a GIANTS message board is bafflig to me it is like some posters want jones to fail..


+1

The collective intelligence and maturity of Giants fans is at an all time low. Sign of the times I guess.
RE: RE: ......  
Scooter185 : 10/13/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15412760 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 15412030 Route 9 said:


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Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.



The mystery is, why didn't Glennon come in and light it up? If Jones is so bad, other QBs should be thriving when given the opportunity. Instead we have seen Eli, McCoy, and Glennon play with mediocrity in his stead. These are all guys who have won games in the NFL. Guys who have all been shown to have good games. If Jones is holding this team back and he is what his record is...if it's not Garrett...I should expect to see an improvement with Glennon in, no?


The Giants best win of 2020 was with Colt. Many commented at the time that the offense looked better, of course Kitchens is given most of the credit....
RE: RE: RE: ......  
nygiants16 : 10/13/2021 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15412890 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15412760 Thunderstruck27 said:


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In comment 15412030 Route 9 said:


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Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.



The mystery is, why didn't Glennon come in and light it up? If Jones is so bad, other QBs should be thriving when given the opportunity. Instead we have seen Eli, McCoy, and Glennon play with mediocrity in his stead. These are all guys who have won games in the NFL. Guys who have all been shown to have good games. If Jones is holding this team back and he is what his record is...if it's not Garrett...I should expect to see an improvement with Glennon in, no?



The Giants best win of 2020 was with Colt. Many commented at the time that the offense looked better, of course Kitchens is given most of the credit....


They won that game because of defense and their run game
RE: RE: ......  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/14/2021 5:44 am : link
In comment 15412760 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 15412030 Route 9 said:


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Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.



The mystery is, why didn't Glennon come in and light it up? If Jones is so bad, other QBs should be thriving when given the opportunity. Instead we have seen Eli, McCoy, and Glennon play with mediocrity in his stead. These are all guys who have won games in the NFL. Guys who have all been shown to have good games. If Jones is holding this team back and he is what his record is...if it's not Garrett...I should expect to see an improvement with Glennon in, no?

That's your defense of Jones? That he's not worse than Mike Glennon?
......  
Route 9 : 10/14/2021 5:48 am : link
Because Glennon is garbage lol
RE: Why do people get mad  
Greg from LI : 10/14/2021 8:46 am : link
In comment 15411622 nygiants16 said:
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when someone says they want to see Jones play and do well? i dont get it shouldnt all Giants fans wsnt him to play well?

The amount of hate Jones gets on a GIANTS message board is bafflig to me it is like some posters want jones to fail..


By that logic, why does everyone hate Evan Engram? He's a Giant too.
RE: RE: Why do people get mad  
nygiants16 : 10/14/2021 8:47 am : link
In comment 15413043 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 15411622 nygiants16 said:


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when someone says they want to see Jones play and do well? i dont get it shouldnt all Giants fans wsnt him to play well?

The amount of hate Jones gets on a GIANTS message board is bafflig to me it is like some posters want jones to fail..



By that logic, why does everyone hate Evan Engram? He's a Giant too.


may hate him, but you going to be mad if he succeeds and helps the team win?
Within the games? Of course  
Greg from LI : 10/14/2021 8:56 am : link
Long term, I would rather they find another quarterback. I watched Jones quite a bit at Duke and was never overly impressed with him, which is why I was really disappointed that they spent the #6 overall pick on him.
Meaning, within the games I want to see him play well  
Greg from LI : 10/14/2021 8:57 am : link
so the team wins
Lol  
Route 9 : 10/15/2021 5:50 am : link
Sad to say it.

Engram is the only reliable threat we have left, outside of Toney, of course.
RE: RE: ......  
Debaser : 10/15/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15412760 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.



The mystery is, why didn't Glennon come in and light it up? If Jones is so bad, other QBs should be thriving when given the opportunity. Instead we have seen Eli, McCoy, and Glennon play with mediocrity in his stead. These are all guys who have won games in the NFL. Guys who have all been shown to have good games. If Jones is holding this team back and he is what his record is...if it's not Garrett...I should expect to see an improvement with Glennon in, no?


LOL! This is really the argument of that it's really Garret?

Why didn't a journeyman who played about 10 games in 5 years on 2 different teams; got 0 reps in practice ; got hoisted in the middle of a game -- why didn't he light it up??

He also played a half; gave you 200 yards and a TD ; that is not bad all considered.

Eli didn't play here since 2018. Eli didn't really play that bad. Shurmur was Eli's coach not JUdge or Garrett. Eli's #1 receiver is Shep ; who wsa an overpayed mediocre olayer and still is.Shep is a #3 guy now.

You are obviously a daniel jones fan first and giants fan second. your time lines are totally off.
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Thunderstruck27 : 10/15/2021 2:59 pm : link
In comment 15414695 Debaser said:
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In comment 15412760 Thunderstruck27 said:


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In comment 15412030 Route 9 said:


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Oh my. Player of the Week. That solidifies everything, now.

Oh wow. The same award won by Eddy Lacy, Kyle Boller and Colin Kaepernick.

Again, I said he is capable of having good games.

But yep, let's look at a 9-22 record and let's do that BBI fanboy thing where we just pretend Jones can only receive credit but no criticism.

And yeah ... He's been a QB here since 2019. It's not as if he's a mystery and never sees the field.



The mystery is, why didn't Glennon come in and light it up? If Jones is so bad, other QBs should be thriving when given the opportunity. Instead we have seen Eli, McCoy, and Glennon play with mediocrity in his stead. These are all guys who have won games in the NFL. Guys who have all been shown to have good games. If Jones is holding this team back and he is what his record is...if it's not Garrett...I should expect to see an improvement with Glennon in, no?



LOL! This is really the argument of that it's really Garret?

Why didn't a journeyman who played about 10 games in 5 years on 2 different teams; got 0 reps in practice ; got hoisted in the middle of a game -- why didn't he light it up??

He also played a half; gave you 200 yards and a TD ; that is not bad all considered.

Eli didn't play here since 2018. Eli didn't really play that bad. Shurmur was Eli's coach not JUdge or Garrett. Eli's #1 receiver is Shep ; who wsa an overpayed mediocre olayer and still is.Shep is a #3 guy now.

You are obviously a daniel jones fan first and giants fan second. your time lines are totally off.


I've been a Giants fan since before you were born. You obviously don't know how to read.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ......  
Debaser : 10/15/2021 3:39 pm : link

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I've been a Giants fan since before you were born. You obviously don't know how to read.


I don't know how to read. You are blaming garrett are you not?

YOu then go on to rattle off eli ; glennon; and and colt mccoy as evidence of garrett holding back good QB play no?

Too bad Eli was not here when garrett was oc. He was here with shurmur. Eli gave you 4000+ yards and 20 some odd TDs. Eli also played with a bad line and an overpaid and very mediocre Shep as his #1 receiver

Mccoy also played one game -- was not exatly getting a jacket fitted for canton any time soon -- and garrett didn't even OC that one game.

Glennon I already covered.

Is it really that hard to admit jones is not a good QB? As soon as glennon came in it was like Garrett thought Glennon was Dan Marino and he was Don Shula with the play calls. In desperation time ; he know who to dial up the offense. When it is your back up throwing pick 6s it ok .When youre #6 pick in the draft that you pay millions to is going to start doing it -- and he will so obvious -- that is going to really embarrassing to the Maras. A #6 pick ad millions of dollars for the same result you could have gotten from Glennon off the scrap pile
Do you live in fantasy land?  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/15/2021 3:44 pm : link
You make the same argument for Eli that people make for Jones...and Eli made a shotload more money than Jones does.
You leave out the part where Glennon threw 2 picks...one for a defensive touchdown.
Not only that, I remember in the game thread where you said "I knew Glennon would come in and make this offense look good".
Yeah.
Mccoy atarted 2 games  
nygiants16 : 10/15/2021 3:49 pm : link
Garrett was oc for 1 of them and that was the win in seattle
So now we are killing Jones  
nygiants16 : 10/15/2021 3:53 pm : link
for picks he hasnt thrown yet? lets be honest forget what you think of Jones as far as his prospects for being the franchise guy, yhe 1 thing everyone should admit is he has cut down on the turnovers, he has 2 all year and 1 was a hail mary
RE: Do you live in fantasy land?  
Debaser : 10/15/2021 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15414770 Thunderstruck27 said:
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You make the same argument for Eli that people make for Jones...and Eli made a shotload more money than Jones does.


No no you cannot. Firstly this line by some strange grace of g-d is actually playing decent for the first time in years. I don't expect it to last and it makes 0 sense why that is, but it is.

Jones has better receivers than Eli did since 2011 team with Vicotr Cruz.

Jones still is NOT throwing TDs just like he didn't last year.

Eli despite horrible line and bad receivers and bad coaches gave you 4000 yards and double the TDs.

Eli didn't play with a coach that played to his stregth but just wanted to bench him and move on.

Jones has a coach who will still allow him to play with traning wheels ; act like he is here on what amounts to an extended rookie season to get better.

Glennon comes in - in the middle of a game and was throwing deep outs.. Garrett obviously desperate did not care if glennon looks like shit ,and he obviously cares if jones does.
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