— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
QBs that need to run to be successful tend to get hurt.
Let him sit until Thomas gets healthy. I'm not a Jones fan, but I'd be cool if we gave him another year and didn't waste our 2 1sts in a terrible QB draft.
But him getting up immediately and trying to get back the huddle, probably added to the way it looked on the field. Seen this a few times during our HS games. It’s 50/50 if it turns out bad or not. Some of the worst looking ones have zero effect an hour later. Giants should know at this point whether he will be playing or not. Could be playing possum?
Season is done with. Let's turn our eyes to Toney. One thing I want to see is him taking sone swings at maybe some players on Philly or Dallas or even ...
— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
Season is done with. Let's turn our eyes to Toney. One thing I want to see is him taking sone swings at maybe some players on Philly or Dallas or even ...
Judge perhaps?
Get mean and break some other player's legs.
I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
Yeah, it's happening too fucking often.
I believe the protocol would only clear him Sat (?) so they have to
move forward as if any concussed player isn't playing until they clear the protocol. So I'm not sure this is an indication of anything other than the fact that he's in the protocol and they don't control when he gets out.
As much as I hope they are careful with him let's remember the best thing would be that he's cleared from the protocol because that means as bad as it looked it may not have been anything beyond a typical concussion and that he's had no problematic symptoms.
Rodgers and Roethlisberger come to mind as two that have had several injuries and missed games in a lot of seasons. Stafford was hurt in his first two years missing time then played like 6 or 7 seasons in a row without missing a game.
I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.
Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.
Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
Yeah, if we just had a better qb in those 31 games we’d probably be 22-9 and have a couple trips to the playoffs. Good to know Giants are just one player away.
Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
Why is everything with you a put down of Eli and the random pumping up of jones?
Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
Seriously... what has changed since draft nights when journalists and football executives were like WTF ? Three years have passed and were still waiting to see if gettle was some kinda closet genius who saw something no one else did.... but it’s becoming obvious gettle was just a moron who screwed up an important pick on a guy with a pea shooter arm and not much else.
The only thing I can think of is that he saw that concussion play inbjones. Not the boneheadedness but the never give up and put your body at risk and squeak out a couple meaningless wins to save shura and gettle Jon. Otherwise I expect the same same 20 pts from this offense and a loss from Glennon.
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
Seriously... what has changed since draft nights when journalists and football executives were like WTF ? Three years have passed and were still waiting to see if gettle was some kinda closet genius who saw something no one else did.... but it’s becoming obvious gettle was just a moron who screwed up an important pick on a guy with a pea shooter arm and not much else.
The only thing I can think of is that he saw that concussion play inbjones. Not the boneheadedness but the never give up and put your body at risk and squeak out a couple meaningless wins to save shura and gettle Jon. Otherwise I expect the same same 20 pts from this offense and a loss from Glennon.
They thought he was a major reach at 6, not an undraftable scrub like you seem to believe.
I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.
Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
I watch and root for wins, and you seem to think that s silly. Your take here is ridiculous.
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
RE: RE: RE: RE: Jones durability is a major concern
— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
Why is everything with you a put down of Eli and the random pumping up of jones?
I loved Eli, I was in his corner when many were not. I however do get annoyed with the inconsistencies by which Jones is judged as compared to Eli.
We heard often when the Giants stopped winning with Eli how the Giants ruined the last half of his career.
With Jones we hear how he can’t elevate his teammates to wins.
I guess my criticisms of Eli are based more at those posters who gave Eli a pass for some of the things used to debase Jones
Yes I get Eli won two championships, but there was a lot of losing with him too. He never gets blamed for the losing by some that hold Daniel to a different standard
Pus what I stated is true, Eli s streak was remarkable, but he never put his body out there to make a play like Jones, true or not.
I m not saying he should have either, but that s part of Daniel s game. He sa great athlete that plays with physicality, and he gets bashed for it here.
nobody is sliding at the goal line. middle of the field? definitely. In that spot he and anyone else are going for the TD. He's trying to score and lead his team.
RE: RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
Stop making shit up, so you knew Eli was the guy halfway through his 3rd year? BS, Eli was inconsistent and a turnvoer machine in his 3rd year..
Also the game against Roethlesburger was in their rookie year and Ben was a passenger on that team, stop acting like he was a top qb in that game..
and i love Eli and i always will be grateful for the 2 superbowls
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
and your 40-50 yards down the field comment is laughable, Eli threw for 182 yards that day on 23 attempts, again stop rewriting history
RE: RE: and i love how people rewrite Elis history
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
Daniel Jones has played well this year by most accounts. That you continue to classify it as struggling is very revealing.
I guess my criticisms of Eli are based more at those posters who gave Eli a pass for some of the things used to debase Jones
Yes I get Eli won two championships, but there was a lot of losing with him too. He never gets blamed for the losing by some that hold Daniel to a different standard
You really don't get how someone in the twilight of their career who you have to pay 10s of millions to should be judged a little different than a rookie?
Firstly the line has been awful for how long now? Second, Eli's #1 receiver was Shep a really mediocre and over paid player and before that a total headcase Odel who lost a step along the way. Every year they sign some free agent to get Jones "weapons" to the tune of 10s of millions of dollars and every year for 2 years now, it has been the same shit of bad red zone / few TDs and a lot of L's in the losses column.
If you were really serious about Eli you would have drafted Qneton Nelson and signed some free agent wide out for him. And yea I would think spending a draft pick on protecting Eli -- someone who may have lost a step in the pocket is a littl more reasonable to me than a rookie who is supposedly mobile but can't run and throw well. But that guy of all things needs a goldielox pocket to pass in ; needs a #2 running back needs this and that
That is a good point. I do think Jones was a reach at 6, oh, I do.
Is he a bum? No. I think he'd be a good back up QB somewhere else. He plays hard, doesn't seem like a pain in the ass, he'll give you his best and is fast.
Rams, Bucs, Chiefs or Packers or whatever. Maybe can step in for a game or two ... but ... nothing more.
The Giants are going nowhere this year. Let Jones get right. And maybe learn how to fucking SLIDE.
Sliding when your only option is to make the corner pylon is not an option. The play call was/is the problem.
If anything, once he knew it was going to be contested he should have thrown the ball out of the back of the endzone. That play needs to be a walk in TD otherwise it is too risky. If he slides he loses at least a yard and probably more. Still pissd that with half an inch to go and two downs that is a play they decided to run.
acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
Pretty much the same crowd who are now dissing Jones. See a pattern here?
That is a good point. I do think Jones was a reach at 6, oh, I do.
Is he a bum? No. I think he'd be a good back up QB somewhere else. He plays hard, doesn't seem like a pain in the ass, he'll give you his best and is fast.
Rams, Bucs, Chiefs or Packers or whatever. Maybe can step in for a game or two ... but ... nothing more.
But uh ... I've seen enough.
Lol he was offensive player of the week last week and you've seen enough.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
QBs that need to run to be successful tend to get hurt.
Let him sit until Thomas gets healthy. I'm not a Jones fan, but I'd be cool if we gave him another year and didn't waste our 2 1sts in a terrible QB draft.
This is a ridiculous take. No QB is sliding in the situation he was in. He didn't get hurt because he didn't slide.
Judge perhaps?
Get mean and break some other player's legs.
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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
Judge perhaps?
Get mean and break some other player's legs.
I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
As much as I hope they are careful with him let's remember the best thing would be that he's cleared from the protocol because that means as bad as it looked it may not have been anything beyond a typical concussion and that he's had no problematic symptoms.
Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.
Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
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I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.
Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
Yeah, if we just had a better qb in those 31 games we’d probably be 22-9 and have a couple trips to the playoffs. Good to know Giants are just one player away.
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
Why is everything with you a put down of Eli and the random pumping up of jones?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
I don't see it happening.
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Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
Seriously... what has changed since draft nights when journalists and football executives were like WTF ? Three years have passed and were still waiting to see if gettle was some kinda closet genius who saw something no one else did.... but it’s becoming obvious gettle was just a moron who screwed up an important pick on a guy with a pea shooter arm and not much else.
The only thing I can think of is that he saw that concussion play inbjones. Not the boneheadedness but the never give up and put your body at risk and squeak out a couple meaningless wins to save shura and gettle Jon. Otherwise I expect the same same 20 pts from this offense and a loss from Glennon.
The amount of hate Jones gets on a GIANTS message board is bafflig to me it is like some posters want jones to fail..
stop rewriting history
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Still, if you know numbers are, look at his record and if you can figure it out they still lose with or without him... then you might get it. Again. Who cares? They lose plenty with him. You really think if he went to another team, he'd turn into this winner?
What are we missing here? He's not exactly a difference maker, nor does he put points on the board. Also as mentioned above, not the smartest thing to lean into a LB as a runner.
Meh.
The amount of emotional angst spent defending an obvious borderline player is stunning. Don't ya think? DG randomly picks some dude that nobody had pegged as a high pick, and these fans are all ride or die over it.
Seriously... what has changed since draft nights when journalists and football executives were like WTF ? Three years have passed and were still waiting to see if gettle was some kinda closet genius who saw something no one else did.... but it’s becoming obvious gettle was just a moron who screwed up an important pick on a guy with a pea shooter arm and not much else.
The only thing I can think of is that he saw that concussion play inbjones. Not the boneheadedness but the never give up and put your body at risk and squeak out a couple meaningless wins to save shura and gettle Jon. Otherwise I expect the same same 20 pts from this offense and a loss from Glennon.
They thought he was a major reach at 6, not an undraftable scrub like you seem to believe.
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I care. Want to see him play , want to see team improve, want to see some wins.
Who gives a shit if he doesn't play or not? Jones record as a starter is 9-22. That is 7 layers below pathetic.
Wins? Wins you say? It's not as if that happens much when Jones is starting QB. Cool. He'll have a good game every once in a while but good frigging grief.
I watch and root for wins, and you seem to think that s silly. Your take here is ridiculous.
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
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— Missed 2 games in 2019 to injury.
— Missed 2 games in 2020 to injury.
— Already likely to miss a game in 2021.
This is a concern.
this is football not ballet. you have 200+ lbs human beings running into each other at speeds of over 15mph. People get hurt. Eli manning was lucky, 98% are not. This isn't a situation where Daniel Jones has a crazy amount of pressure on his muscles. He sprained his ankle, he got hit in the head and he tweaked his hamstring. Shit happens
This is not meant to be disrespectful to Eli, but he left plays on the field avoiding hits. Most quarterbacks miss time every year
Why is everything with you a put down of Eli and the random pumping up of jones?
I loved Eli, I was in his corner when many were not. I however do get annoyed with the inconsistencies by which Jones is judged as compared to Eli.
We heard often when the Giants stopped winning with Eli how the Giants ruined the last half of his career.
With Jones we hear how he can’t elevate his teammates to wins.
I guess my criticisms of Eli are based more at those posters who gave Eli a pass for some of the things used to debase Jones
Yes I get Eli won two championships, but there was a lot of losing with him too. He never gets blamed for the losing by some that hold Daniel to a different standard
Pus what I stated is true, Eli s streak was remarkable, but he never put his body out there to make a play like Jones, true or not.
I m not saying he should have either, but that s part of Daniel s game. He sa great athlete that plays with physicality, and he gets bashed for it here.
I loved Eli, and I am 100% behind Daniel too
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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
Stop making shit up, so you knew Eli was the guy halfway through his 3rd year? BS, Eli was inconsistent and a turnvoer machine in his 3rd year..
Also the game against Roethlesburger was in their rookie year and Ben was a passenger on that team, stop acting like he was a top qb in that game..
Even the most optimistic fan had questions about Eli that year..
and I am sire Debaser who roots for losses was definitely not sold on Eli
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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
and your 40-50 yards down the field comment is laughable, Eli threw for 182 yards that day on 23 attempts, again stop rewriting history
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acting like we always knew he would be good, how we forget or dont mention that people wanted him gone halfway through his 3rd year and even into his 4th year...
stop rewriting history
THATS just idiot sports fans and the short sighted element of human nature that is so annoying so is the group think and stubbornness... they fact the call in shows were ringing off the hook and jones jersey flying off the shelves after one win vs Tampa his first game . And the fact the fans want to see a meaningless game where they are probably going to get blown out and ignored critical moments of the first qtr of last game.
Same w Eli and throwing him out ... expectations were higher for Eli firstly. He gave you plenty of reason to believe however. He outplayed his brother Payton in the manning bowl. He held his own in the battle of the rookies game vs Big Ben where it was two young bucks with cannons for arms throwing 40 -50 yards down field
how jones fared to his peers? I can’t think of one that is struggling like this not even darnald
Daniel Jones has played well this year by most accounts. That you continue to classify it as struggling is very revealing.
But you're right about everything I never really likes Eli
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whatever you say man
I guess my criticisms of Eli are based more at those posters who gave Eli a pass for some of the things used to debase Jones
Yes I get Eli won two championships, but there was a lot of losing with him too. He never gets blamed for the losing by some that hold Daniel to a different standard
You really don't get how someone in the twilight of their career who you have to pay 10s of millions to should be judged a little different than a rookie?
Firstly the line has been awful for how long now? Second, Eli's #1 receiver was Shep a really mediocre and over paid player and before that a total headcase Odel who lost a step along the way. Every year they sign some free agent to get Jones "weapons" to the tune of 10s of millions of dollars and every year for 2 years now, it has been the same shit of bad red zone / few TDs and a lot of L's in the losses column.
If you were really serious about Eli you would have drafted Qneton Nelson and signed some free agent wide out for him. And yea I would think spending a draft pick on protecting Eli -- someone who may have lost a step in the pocket is a littl more reasonable to me than a rookie who is supposedly mobile but can't run and throw well. But that guy of all things needs a goldielox pocket to pass in ; needs a #2 running back needs this and that
Is he a bum? No. I think he'd be a good back up QB somewhere else. He plays hard, doesn't seem like a pain in the ass, he'll give you his best and is fast.
Rams, Bucs, Chiefs or Packers or whatever. Maybe can step in for a game or two ... but ... nothing more.
But uh ... I've seen enough.
Sliding when your only option is to make the corner pylon is not an option. The play call was/is the problem.
If anything, once he knew it was going to be contested he should have thrown the ball out of the back of the endzone. That play needs to be a walk in TD otherwise it is too risky. If he slides he loses at least a yard and probably more. Still pissd that with half an inch to go and two downs that is a play they decided to run.
stop rewriting history
Pretty much the same crowd who are now dissing Jones. See a pattern here?
Is he a bum? No. I think he'd be a good back up QB somewhere else. He plays hard, doesn't seem like a pain in the ass, he'll give you his best and is fast.
Rams, Bucs, Chiefs or Packers or whatever. Maybe can step in for a game or two ... but ... nothing more.
But uh ... I've seen enough.
Lol he was offensive player of the week last week and you've seen enough.