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Worst stretch of Giants football in my lifetime

RELICDOA : 10/13/2021 11:52 am
Old timers - “we lived through the dark ages, the Giants were dismal in the 70’s”
Current Giants fans - “ Hold my beer”
The 70-s were way worse  
stoneman : 10/13/2021 11:57 am : link
pre free agency, it took so long to rebuild, seemed like no chance to get better. Tarkenton was the one last hope to move forward and get better, but did not pan out.

As a kid, I used to watch MNF halftime just hoping to see 1 highlight of the G's - there weren't many. Tarkenton, Rocky Thompson, some, but not many. Then came LT :)
for me, this is worse than in the '70s because back then  
Victor in CT : 10/13/2021 11:59 am : link
I didn't know any better. The Giants losing was all I knew, save the 8-6 record in 1972.
1972 Was The Only year they Had Some Success in That Decade  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/13/2021 12:06 pm : link
Remember they were 7-4 going into week 12 against Cincinatti and in the hunt for a playoff spot and lost 13-10. They lost the following week to undefeated Miami and that ended any chance they had that season. The rest of the decade was a disaster
1964 - 1980  
M.S. : 10/13/2021 12:19 pm : link

2012 - 2028?
For me, 1968-84 was much worse.  
BigBlueNH : 10/13/2021 12:22 pm : link
68 is when I really started paying attention. For my entire youth, they sucked. Most of those years, they won 2-4 games. I was a young adult by the time they first made the playoffs.

Now, at least most of us can remember some success - 4 Super Bowl victories in total, and 2 in the not-too-distant past. We need another decade of shittiness to reach the level of the 60s, 70s and early 80s.
i was a kid started watching in 68,  
dee-fense : 10/13/2021 12:29 pm : link
they sucked til 84 basically...how the hell i became such a die hard fan i will never know...this is a cakewalk...i celebrated like crazy on Eli draft day...knew it was going to work out...we will be back and this is nothing...enjoy the ride...i sure as hell do and it's been rocky!!!
I think you’re right ... the 70s had horrid won loss records but we  
Spider56 : 10/13/2021 12:41 pm : link
always had a good defense with some great players who gave their all and kept the games close. Spider Lockhart, John Mendenhall, Jack Gregory, Brad Van Pelt, Brian Kelley, George Martin, Troy Archer and Harry Carson made Yankee Stadium and the Yale Bowl thunder with roars of Deee-Fense. The problem was usually on offense where we had Ron Johnson, Bob Tucker, a middle aged Tarkenton and very little else. Now we have a lot more hype and a bunch of underperforming millionaires. Team loyalty is history and technology puts everything under a microscope. Yes, this is worse.
Lol  
SirYesSir : 10/13/2021 12:48 pm : link
gtfoh


we've had worse stretches than this by far. We've also won 4 superbowls in my lifetime.

Quit bitching and act like a fan of the team
RE: i was a kid started watching in 68,  
stoneman : 10/13/2021 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15412049 dee-fense said:
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they sucked til 84 basically...how the hell i became such a die hard fan i will never know...this is a cakewalk...i celebrated like crazy on Eli draft day...knew it was going to work out...we will be back and this is nothing...enjoy the ride...i sure as hell do and it's been rocky!!!


With the NFL parity now, it is much easier and faster post free-agency to get back into the game. We aren't that far off.
Also, back in the 70's  
stoneman : 10/13/2021 12:58 pm : link
when they lost, they got killed, not even close. The defenses of old stayed together many years.

Last year, we lost what 7 close games, this year already 3. Yea, losses are losses, but there is a difference when you have no chance come Q3 kickoff.
I think this is worse now  
Thegratefulhead : 10/13/2021 12:59 pm : link
I started watching in the Giants in the 70s. The defense was at least worth watching in the late 70s. Martin, Mendenhall, Van Pelt, Carson, Kelly and Archer for a moment.

I got nothing now.
RE: I think this is worse now  
Simms11 : 10/13/2021 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15412102 Thegratefulhead said:
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I started watching in the Giants in the 70s. The defense was at least worth watching in the late 70s. Martin, Mendenhall, Van Pelt, Carson, Kelly and Archer for a moment.

I got nothing now.


Yes, at least there was Defense to look forward to in the 70s. We have nothing to look forward to now except another loss.
To me this feels like the so called wilderness years. However  
Giants61 : 10/13/2021 1:21 pm : link
with so much readily available information during the offseason it seems much more disappointing once the games begin. I mentioned in a previous thread that the offseason feels more enjoyable now.
at least in the 70's we played defense.  
Jints in Carolina : 10/13/2021 1:26 pm : link
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RE: To me this feels like the so called wilderness years. However  
Jints in Carolina : 10/13/2021 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15412138 Giants61 said:
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with so much readily available information during the offseason it seems much more disappointing once the games begin. I mentioned in a previous thread that the offseason feels more enjoyable now.


Every Sunday is a feeling of dread. I do not look forward to watching them. Nothing about this team gets me excited.
It is truly depressing.
I told my wife, on Monday evening,  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/13/2021 1:55 pm : link
"I need a new hobby."

she says to me "What?"

I said "Nothing dear, I don't want to be on record saying something I will regret."

I am so disgusted
“At least in the 70’s we played defense”. Wrong!!! Just ask Fran  
plato : 10/13/2021 2:12 pm : link
Tarkenton what it was like to be a Giant qb in the dark ages of the unending winter of Giant football. He would struggle to put 30 points on the board only to see Giants lose by 5 or more.

I never thought I would live to see the Giants in a super bowl let alone win four. Most of you are spoiled and can’t believe Giants have not had a championship season since 2011. I want a winning season too, but I can’t believe the utter ignorance and lack of decent comments from so many on this site. It’s worse than ever and it’s not that the Giants are worse than ever it’s that the population that posts here is “worse” than ever.

Lighten up a bit, progress is slow. Hopefully we will see improvements as coaching staff works together and team improves in talent and working together, Weneed stability not turmoil and let the coaching staff work and learn together with a stable and improved roster
This Stretch for the Giants HasBeen Hellacious  
BMCBikes : 10/13/2021 2:14 pm : link
To be totally transparent, I'm not a Giants fan like you guys, but I've always admired the organization and the team. I was working on the field at Candlestick for Phil Simms last game there vs the 49ers, and that playoff game when the Giants knock Montana out of the game. The defense has been ferocious and fearsome, and the QB's often very good.
I joined this board because I enjoy the intelligent and knowledgeable comments and discussions.
I wanted to be transparent on where I'm coming from.

That said, the team HAS to clean house, starting with Gettleman. He's made so many errors in drafting...Barkley at #2 when the team needed foundation players. Jones at #6, he was never a winner or someone who put the team on his back and willed it to wins in college, why would you think he'd be that in the NFL? And not drafting Justin Herbert...that's what a franchise QB looks like, not Jones.

Anyway, the NFL's better when the Giants are rocking the defense and are good, when other teams are afraid to play them, like those 49ers teams were. They need to get back to winning and they aren't going to do it with Gettleman, Judge, Jones, Garret & company.
thanks for letting me toss out an opinion.
I was born in 1963 and went off to college in 1981  
Giants86 : 10/13/2021 2:33 pm : link

18 years of garbage.

I was just happy to see a win against a good squad back then.

Forget playoffs etc. Those games were for other teams.

This stretch is nowhere near as bad as those days.
70's  
Crazed Dogs : 10/13/2021 2:43 pm : link
was certainly worse s it was just year after year. The stretch the Giants have been in since 2017 is however reminiscent of the 70's.


New York Giants Records by Season - ( New Window )
Me too, but…  
trueblueinpw : 10/13/2021 2:46 pm : link
The past ten years have been bad. And I’m not expecting any turn around this next decade.

But to be fair, to truly miserable football fans like the Jets, I’ve seen the Giants play in 5 Super Bowls and win 4 of them. It sucks to be a Giants fan these days, but it hasn't always sucked for me.
Stoneman in the 70's the Giants constantly made  
gtt350 : 10/13/2021 3:11 pm : link
the Monday night highlights of the team that we played that Sunday
2017 was the bottom for me  
kdog77 : 10/13/2021 3:29 pm : link
Eli looked washed. The Head Coach was clueless. OBJ, the most dynamic player I have ever seen play for the Giants was becoming a prima donna and bigger distraction. It was obvious change was needed.

DG game in with a mission to rebuild the roster, but seemed to put duct tape over gaping holes rather than make tough decisions and do it right. We all know he made mistakes, but there have been glimmer of hopes over the past 4 years (Barkley's rookie year, Jones fist game, Judge getting team within spitting distance of playoffs), but the franchise just feels aimless in terms of the overall direction and planning to be successful. Maybe Judge can turn it around or the next GM will find better players to fit the scheme he is trying to run, but I can't honestly look at this roster and believe they will compete against top teams on week to week basis.
RE: Me too, but…  
BillKo : 10/13/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15412279 trueblueinpw said:
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The past ten years have been bad. And I’m not expecting any turn around this next decade.

But to be fair, to truly miserable football fans like the Jets, I’ve seen the Giants play in 5 Super Bowls and win 4 of them. It sucks to be a Giants fan these days, but it hasn't always sucked for me.


Next decade? Holy shit I hope you aren't right.

It's been bad since I'll say 2013. I won't even include 2012 because we did go 8-8.

And 2016 was a brief upswing as we made the playoffs.

Since McAdoo's second year we've been inept it seems. Either out of games by the half or getting a dagger on a last second FG or stupid play.
RE: Stoneman in the 70's the Giants constantly made  
stoneman : 10/13/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15412328 gtt350 said:
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the Monday night highlights of the team that we played that Sunday


Unfortunately the "Miracle at the Meadowlands" was the feature highlight in 1978.

Not sure how everybody can say these times are worse when we just missed winning the division last year - by 1 game - lol
RE: RE: Me too, but…  
japanhead : 10/13/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15412439 BillKo said:
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In comment 15412279 trueblueinpw said:


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The past ten years have been bad. And I’m not expecting any turn around this next decade.

But to be fair, to truly miserable football fans like the Jets, I’ve seen the Giants play in 5 Super Bowls and win 4 of them. It sucks to be a Giants fan these days, but it hasn't always sucked for me.



Next decade? Holy shit I hope you aren't right.

It's been bad since I'll say 2013. I won't even include 2012 because we did go 8-8.

And 2016 was a brief upswing as we made the playoffs.

Since McAdoo's second year we've been inept it seems. Either out of games by the half or getting a dagger on a last second FG or stupid play.


they were 9-7 that 2012 season, not 8-8, before the wheels fell off in 2013.

but it's been a spiraling series of nutless gutless half-measures since 2013.

when gettleman revealed in 2020 that his plan was to "win now" and "rebuild" at the same time i realized it was worse than i had previously thought.
RE: RE: RE: Me too, but…  
BillKo : 10/13/2021 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15412475 japanhead said:
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In comment 15412439 BillKo said:


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In comment 15412279 trueblueinpw said:


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The past ten years have been bad. And I’m not expecting any turn around this next decade.

But to be fair, to truly miserable football fans like the Jets, I’ve seen the Giants play in 5 Super Bowls and win 4 of them. It sucks to be a Giants fan these days, but it hasn't always sucked for me.



Next decade? Holy shit I hope you aren't right.

It's been bad since I'll say 2013. I won't even include 2012 because we did go 8-8.

And 2016 was a brief upswing as we made the playoffs.

Since McAdoo's second year we've been inept it seems. Either out of games by the half or getting a dagger on a last second FG or stupid play.



they were 9-7 that 2012 season, not 8-8, before the wheels fell off in 2013.

but it's been a spiraling series of nutless gutless half-measures since 2013.

when gettleman revealed in 2020 that his plan was to "win now" and "rebuild" at the same time i realized it was worse than i had previously thought.


See that? Thanks......2012 wasn't even that bad to be honest. We were 6-2 at the break and even blew out some good teams (NO, GB).

Got tuned up a few times also, but that's the usual life of a SB champ.

2013 was downright awful.

'14 and '15 we could score and were even entertaining but couldn't defend.

'16 was the playoffs, but we saw Eli starting to dip.

'17 thru today has been brutal, no argument there. It needs to change.
You Have Much to Learn,  
clatterbuck : 10/13/2021 6:23 pm : link
Grasshopper. Giants are 10 years removed from their fourth SB. The years from 1964-1981 were brutal. Gary Wood. Dick Shiner. Bob Timberlake. Dennis Shaw. Jim Del Gaizo. Trading boat-loads of draft picks for Tarkenton and Craig effin' Morton. Wasting draft picks on Rocky Thompson, Eldridge Small, Big Don Davis. Allie Sherman to Alex Webster to Bill Arnsparger to John McVay. The 1969 Jets Yale Bowl humiliation. The Fumble. You had to be there.
Just a great thread--  
Burt in Alameda : 10/13/2021 7:03 pm : link
Like everyone, the 1970's were impossible for Giants fans. The offenses were terrible and the defenses had some good players but not enough to win games. How I remember my father-in-law, who was from Philadelphia, laughing at me after the Disaster in the Meadowlands game in 1978. These past eight years are the same, and like all of us, I can't abide by the incompetence from the top down. I'm 77 now and can't look forward to a long rebuild mainly because we have no idea when it will begin.
the combined ny football of the last ten years  
nyfootballfan : 10/13/2021 8:29 pm : link
pretty much stacks up to 1970-80.
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