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Haven't we essentially sucked since we left Albany?

FatHeadTommy : 10/14/2021 3:18 am
Am I wrong or hasn't our record been terrible since we stopped holding training camp in Albany? What was different (for the team and the players) about holding camp away from East Rutherford, NJ?

I miss the summer days up there. My kids were young and we had fun just going there. It solidified their fanship. It was great for them to have such easy access to the coaches and the players. They could see them and interact with them.

I'm not suggesting this is the only thing wrong with the Giants, obviously, but could it be a factor? It almost seems like it changed the culture of the team in a sense.
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Route 9 : 10/14/2021 5:07 am : link
Probably. During the early Coughlin years there was nothing more I looked forward to than sitting down and watching the Giants play on Sundays.

Now? Woof. I hate everything that this team does lol the newer stadium, the recent head coaches, the players, the endless excuses, the ridiculous amount of games that could have been won, Evan Engram. Etc.
shit you may be onto something  
Giantsfan79 : 10/14/2021 6:36 am : link
did anyone else hear those rumors that Marty dabbled in voodoo curses several years back? maybe the team needs an exorcism instead of better players.
Come on now  
Jim in Tampa : 10/14/2021 7:27 am : link
It's one thing to miss going to training camp in Albany with your family and quite another to suggest that it "could be a factor" in their losing record.
Its just a bummer that training camp now sucks for fans  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/14/2021 7:40 am : link
while at the same time they're in a shitty stadium for fans, and have a team that sucks for fans.

Giants Stadium had a personality, Albany had a personality. The team was never as bad for as long in Giants Stadium as it is now. Its not bad juju but its Mara making shitty decision after shitty decision after shitty decision.
RE: Its just a bummer that training camp now sucks for fans  
Spider56 : 10/14/2021 8:00 am : link
In comment 15412997 Bold Ruler said:
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while at the same time they're in a shitty stadium for fans, and have a team that sucks for fans.

Giants Stadium had a personality, Albany had a personality. The team was never as bad for as long in Giants Stadium as it is now. Its not bad juju but its Mara making shitty decision after shitty decision after shitty decision.


Good summary ... I loved Giants stadium and have good memories of Albany as well. When my son was about 12, we had a great 3 days at camp, Cooperstown, Lake George and our first experience at Saratoga.
Getting in bed with the Jests on the new stadium was a huge mistake.
"We" haven't sucked, NO...the Giants have  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/14/2021 9:16 am : link
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Did win the SB in 2011  
fanoftheteam : 10/14/2021 9:24 am : link
So its possibly to have on site camp and a shitty stadium and win. Interesting enough though we are better on the road.

Fwiw The first class parking situation at metlife makes me puke the most.
fatheadtommy...  
BCD : 10/14/2021 9:38 am : link
me and my brother use to catch the bus out there...I never forget being on the sideline behind the bench looking at Spider Lockhart who looked drunk with red eyes..I was 12
more like the quintessential suck  
mpinmaine : 10/14/2021 9:43 am : link
coincidence nevertheless true more or less
They should go back to Fairfield University  
yalebowl : 10/14/2021 10:00 am : link
Being from Connecticut during the glory years training camp at Fairfield University was why the team was so great. While they are switching camps they should play the regular season at Yankee Stadium too.

Connecticut fans get no respect. It’s all either New York or New Jersey now.
I'm still baffled  
Everyone Relax : 10/14/2021 11:02 am : link
how they managed to screw up a $1.8bn stadium. I never truly understood how terrible the entire Metlife experience until my friends and I started going to an away game each year. I remember Seattle being able watch all the 1pm games at a strip of bars next to the stadium, then stroll in 30 min before kickoff.
This looks like a good place to pile on.  
smshmth8690 : 10/14/2021 11:31 am : link
While we are at it, let's mention another small annoyance. The post game show sucks too. It seems like it's run by a bunch of communications interns. Of course if the team were winning everything seems to suck.
I’ll go with  
Joe Beckwith : 10/14/2021 11:55 am : link
Since sharing a stadium with the J-E-T-S *3.
check that...  
BCD : 10/14/2021 11:57 am : link
I meant camp at Fairfeld Ct....
Albany...  
JohnG in Albany : 10/14/2021 12:00 pm : link
is a magical place. *grin*
2 a days, chicken parm, magical indeed  
gtt350 : 10/14/2021 2:03 pm : link
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Albany was great at the beginning  
JohnF : 10/14/2021 6:21 pm : link
but after the new CBA was signed, things changed. Especially now with Covid.

There's no way you could get approval for those sorts of crowds in the NorthEast, or have things like "Autograph Alley", for one. Close contact (talking to players next to the fence, or shaking Ike Hillard's hand) have been outlawed. Two a days are just about extinct, contact is limited.

The cut down in the length of camp and total practices open to the public just make it impractical to go to UA, Fairfield, or any other outside facility. You're dragging your whole organization for just a few days, and tying up fields that the host school uses?

It's a shame, because it really was magical when it was in Albany...you got closer to the players and staff than you ever would at Giants Stadium/Metlife. Sadly, that world fell apart after 9/11, and was scattered after the CBA was signed and Covid hit. There is no going back.

For those of you who were there, treasure the memories and tell the stories; it's truly the next best thing to being there!
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