I want to preface this by signing that I was a big fan of the signing. In theory, he's exactly the type of alpha WR that Jones and the team needs. Unfortunately, his career has been plagued by injuries and between the hamstring and now the knee the injury bug is again rearing its ugly head. Between the emergence of Toney, the restructuring of Shepard I wonder if they would have signed Judon or kept dalvin if they had a gimmie.
Gotta remember Shepard is out more than Golladay has been.
He has a solid contract with $40m guaranteed which is far less than a bunch of other WR's that got paid before him. Health is why I didn't want him and yeah, here we are. That said it sounds like a 1-2 week thing and we stink anyway so it kinda doesn't matter for 2021.
I think the potential with him and Toney is undeniable. Really hope we get a good glimpse of that this year.
You actually think we'd use him properly? He's had a long, fairly unproductive career. He went to an offense that lets him loose, I can confidently say that wouldn't have happened here.
To be fair, the Giants playbook was so uptight the first several weeks they rarely threw to Golladay and when they did they were usually successful with tough contested catches. He caught over 100 yards in his last game before injury, so the arrow was pointed up. They need to go to him more often as good things tend to happen. He has that dog mentality that we need.
But I don't think this is any more prevalent than all the remorse in the Front Office right now...
To me, he has the feel of a luxury type of 1b player who can be great, but the missed time is going to make him less reliable, and the missed time is going to make him more inconsistent. We already saw the poor chemistry with Jones to start the year and what that might have cost us.
It s football, guys get hurt, but signing a top free agent with a history of missing games was a risky move, just as is drafting a RB with the second pick, so far neither move looks solid.
I hear and read by some how Gettleman has improved this roster, maybe the talent is better, but these move have not help to stop the losing up to this pt. ,
It s football, guys get hurt, but signing a top free agent with a history of missing games was a risky move, just as is drafting a RB with the second pick, so far neither move looks solid.
I hear and read by some how Gettleman has improved this roster, maybe the talent is better, but these move have not help to stop the losing up to this pt. ,
Gettleman has brought in some nice “individual” pieces. You can say these players have talent, but in terms of roster construction it has been a disaster.
Maybe DG can do a fantasy podcast after he gets fir... retires at the end of the year
These moves this off-season are looking like a pathetic gasp by a desperate GM trying to save his job.
A WR they felt was a #1 caliber was an absolute priority. Robbing Peter to pay Paul landed Jackson, and they're obviously still desperate to upgrade the CB unit.
It's injuries, what can you do? You can just as well ask if they have buyer's remorse for extending Shep.
Injuries are part of football. Smart, well-run teams build their roster to try to avoid having one injury from being so damaging as to flush the season.
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as DG tends to build a football roster not unlike a fan would; reactionary, expensive UFAs with known warts be damned, draft by best available at one position, hey it's fantasy football!
These moves this off-season are looking like a pathetic gasp by a desperate GM trying to save his job.
That "pathetic gasp" of offseason moves by this GM was revered by tons of BBI posters in threads all over this site in March/April/May.
Now they are being couched as pathetic moves once they start to play a few games? I didn't read too many of those opinions this past Spring.
Give me Toney and a 1st, 4th (plus the 5th last year)
I was a little pissed at the time as I wanted Smith or an OL but the extra #1 was a good get. Liked Toney but never thought of him as a first round type of WR, but I hope he holds up to those expectations now.
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as DG tends to build a football roster not unlike a fan would; reactionary, expensive UFAs with known warts be damned, draft by best available at one position, hey it's fantasy football!
These moves this off-season are looking like a pathetic gasp by a desperate GM trying to save his job.
That "pathetic gasp" of offseason moves by this GM was revered by tons of BBI posters in threads all over this site in March/April/May.
Now they are being couched as pathetic moves once they start to play a few games? I didn't read too many of those opinions this past Spring.
My view was that the moves raised the ceiling on this team and offered a path towards a double digit win. I thought it unlikely - I thought you needed Bradberry/Williams to maintain career years, as well as have Jones develop into a top ten QB.
I don't think there was universal praise - many of us pointed to the shaky core the Giants had.
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Parsons, I am annoyed about it.
Give me Toney and a 1st, 4th (plus the 5th last year)
You still need them to get rid of DG and perhaps change the scouting structure so they don't screw up the picks.
I've had that thought in my head for the last 6 or 7 years. :)
This.
There has to be some reason for wanting to watch this disaster. Toney doesn't move the needle enough for me to carve out time but if it does for others.....
He seems like a really good guy, too. And hopefully he can rub off on Toney in a positive way to keep KT on the rails…
In his first two games of getting real playing time, he has 16 receptions for 267 yards. Less than 80 yards less than D. Smith. He also passes the eye test. The past couple years (really since Beckham left), the Giants have had WRs that could not get separation and got very little YAC. Toney has the ability to excel in both areas.
Should Giants fans not be excited about him? Nobody is giving him a spot in Canton, but besides Chase, he is looking as good as any other WR in the draft.
And yes there was a facet that didn't give the universal praise (there always is), but that minority group often had to respond to why they are always just pessimists and can't they see the arrow is pointing up. Or a common line that you heard this offseason but not much now...
"...if you can't see that this roster is better, I don't know what to tell you."
In a season like this, I think it's just fans looking for something to enjoy, some possible ray of light.