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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/17/2021 12:42 pm
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The reason you're not hearing boos?  
Anakim : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
The Giants fans have left the stadium to beat the traffic
Just because he was cleared  
Dave on the UWS : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
Doesn’t mean he was ready to play. Good job by Judge being tough enough to hold him out oh wait!
Jones has looked much better this season then today  
Giantfan21 : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
Hopefully it is just the concussion affecting him today and he will be better going forward.
there it is  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
no respect for the D
RE: Blaming the concussion  
AcidTest : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15417179 ajr2456 said:
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This site is incredible lol. He can’t count defenders because of the concussion?


Agreed.
RE: Blaming the concussion  
dpinzow : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15417179 ajr2456 said:
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This site is incredible lol. He can’t count defenders because of the concussion?


He was cleared to play but if you saw how bad that looked last week, I'm shocked that he fully recovered
All you guys killing Jones…  
trueblueinpw : 10/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
It’s not his fault that Jason Garrett designed a route where there are defensive backs on the same side of the field as the receivers. Do you guys even watch other football teams? Terrible play design.
Bench Jones....  
nyblue56 : 10/17/2021 3:19 pm : link
He is not there today.
Waiting around  
Ron Johnson : 10/17/2021 3:19 pm : link
All day, hoping for a Jones interception in order to gloat. Against the team you supposedly root for. Odd.
RE: Blaming the concussion  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2021 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15417179 ajr2456 said:
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This site is incredible lol. He can’t count defenders because of the concussion?


That was one of the worst interceptions I’ve ever seen thrown on any level of football. He had a clear view of the defender and receiver and threw it anyway. Concussion after effects sounds like as good an explanation as any for that.
There are fans on this site that are convinced  
Mike from Ohio : 10/17/2021 3:19 pm : link
Jones is really good, and no data or information will ever change that deeply held belief. There are only two data points they see - good plays by Jones and bad plays by everyone else.

And I guess now we have a concussion that the experts think is cleared that really isn’t.
RE: Blaming the concussion  
Anakim : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417179 ajr2456 said:
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This site is incredible lol. He can’t count defenders because of the concussion?


Maybe he's seeing double? :D



Actually, that would be all the more reason...never mind
RE: All you guys killing Jones…  
cosmicj : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417196 trueblueinpw said:
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It’s not his fault that Jason Garrett designed a route where there are defensive backs on the same side of the field as the receivers. Do you guys even watch other football teams? Terrible play design.


Lol
RE: All you guys killing Jones…  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417196 trueblueinpw said:
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It’s not his fault that Jason Garrett designed a route where there are defensive backs on the same side of the field as the receivers. Do you guys even watch other football teams? Terrible play design.


While your joking...you act like our WRs ever get open. They don't.
RE: Bench Jones....  
EricJ : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417201 nyblue56 said:
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He is not there today.


yeah... that will change things.. lol
RE: RE: Blaming the concussion  
ajr2456 : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417194 dpinzow said:
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In comment 15417179 ajr2456 said:


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This site is incredible lol. He can’t count defenders because of the concussion?



He was cleared to play but if you saw how bad that looked last week, I'm shocked that he fully recovered


Stop this bullshit. It’s embarrassing. He’s been bad. If he was foggy enough he couldn’t see colors or count he wouldn’t have cleared protocol.
RE: Jones looks  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417181 Beezer said:
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very bad today. And it’s not just about not having time. He’s throwing the ball straight to defenders. Not sure what that’s about. I thought we were past that.


I don’t think he’s ever thrown one like that before. There’s no explanation for it.
He may have cleared concussion protocol but he is not  
MartyNJ1969 : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
fully recovered, He is not a robot, His decision making in reads and throws is affected which comes with a concussion. Prior toi this game he only had one pick,,,now 3. its the concussion
RE: All you guys killing Jones…  
Sammo85 : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15417196 trueblueinpw said:
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It’s not his fault that Jason Garrett designed a route where there are defensive backs on the same side of the field as the receivers. Do you guys even watch other football teams? Terrible play design.


Oh stop it. Good QBs don’t make that terrible decision and throw.
Cant  
Toth029 : 10/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
Wait for Jones to leave so he can have a real chance of success.

This team is brutal.
Jones  
crick n NC : 10/17/2021 3:21 pm : link
Does not look right today.
RE: Waiting around  
Mike from Ohio : 10/17/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15417205 Ron Johnson said:
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All day, hoping for a Jones interception in order to gloat. Against the team you supposedly root for. Odd.


Who is waiting around for this? The same folks that are waiting around fro a bad play by Engram?

We are fans that are frustrated watching our team being held back by poor play.
RE: There are fans on this site that are convinced  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/17/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15417208 Mike from Ohio said:
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Jones is really good, and no data or information will ever change that deeply held belief. There are only two data points they see - good plays by Jones and bad plays by everyone else.

And I guess now we have a concussion that the experts think is cleared that really isn’t.


Hard to argue those concrete stats....I just don't see many good plays by anyone else. Can you enlighten me? It's possible I missed some.
RE: All you guys killing Jones…  
prdave73 : 10/17/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15417196 trueblueinpw said:
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It’s not his fault that Jason Garrett designed a route where there are defensive backs on the same side of the field as the receivers. Do you guys even watch other football teams? Terrible play design.



Exactly.. Look at his play calling it's so predictable?? Plus give Jones a break dude just cam back from a horrible concussion, he shouldn't even be playing??!
It’s remarkable how  
Dave on the UWS : 10/17/2021 3:22 pm : link
non- competitive this team is. Don’t tell me about the injuries. Win no, competitive yes.
RE: Just because he was cleared  
Jim in Tampa : 10/17/2021 3:22 pm : link
In comment 15417187 Dave on the UWS said:
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Doesn’t mean he was ready to play. Good job by Judge being tough enough to hold him out oh wait!

Idiotic!

He was cleared to play by an independent neurologist.
.  
Banks : 10/17/2021 3:22 pm : link
so many plays they go untouched until 4-5 yards
It’s sad  
Sammo85 : 10/17/2021 3:23 pm : link
That this fan base has been reduced to making excuses and arguing about rationale for said excuses.

RE: RE: Just because he was cleared  
dpinzow : 10/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15417233 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15417187 Dave on the UWS said:


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Doesn’t mean he was ready to play. Good job by Judge being tough enough to hold him out oh wait!


Idiotic!

He was cleared to play by an independent neurologist.


I don't trust the NFL on anything when it comes to concussions. Have you seen their history with the subject?
RE: RE: There are fans on this site that are convinced  
Mike from Ohio : 10/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15417230 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 15417208 Mike from Ohio said:


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Jones is really good, and no data or information will ever change that deeply held belief. There are only two data points they see - good plays by Jones and bad plays by everyone else.

And I guess now we have a concussion that the experts think is cleared that really isn’t.



Hard to argue those concrete stats....I just don't see many good plays by anyone else. Can you enlighten me? It's possible I missed some.


No I can’t. There are no good plays being made by anyone today. Leonard Williams maybe.

This team has very little talent. The line sucks and everyone sees that. The defense sucks and everyone sees that. The QB sucks but some on here seem to think he is playing a good game today.
You all act like concussion management is a straightforward process...  
Kanavis : 10/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
It is an inexact science. The line between hard hits and concussions is a little arbitrary. The Dx can be subjective. Concussions are something the NFL can point to so that they can say they are doing something. There is a ton of damage from regular hits.

Jones just isn't right today. Having BBIers speculate it may have something to do with getting knocked out a week ago isn't outrageous.
Herbert  
Toth029 : 10/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
Looks like shit vs the Ravens and getting steamroller.

But they don't have issues of talent the Giants have right now.
RE: .  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15417237 Banks said:
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so many plays they go untouched until 4-5 yards


No one even remotely tried at the end of that play.

People wanted McAdoo run out of town after a similar performance. What’s the answer now??
Even after he got smacked around  
mphbullet36 : 10/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
Jones is also without all his WR's and his offensive line has been ass today. But yes this is all Jones fault...LOL

People that think just because you are cleared to play after a hit like that really must have never played football...he is probably still a bit concerned about getting hit again (that is being human). So maybe he is trying to get the ball out even quicker.
 
christian : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
There are a number of not surprising developments with this offense:

- Barkley was slow to warm up, then got hurt again
- Kenny Golladay misses time before and during the season
- Nate Solder doesn’t belong in the NFL
- Will Hernandez doesn’t belong in the NFL
- Kyle Rudolph look and old and slow because he’s old and coming off foot surgery
RE: Jones  
rsjem1979 : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15417224 crick n NC said:
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Does not look right today.


I don't know, to me he looks pretty similar to how he's looked in the majority of his career starts.
RE: You all act like concussion management is a straightforward process...  
crick n NC : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15417244 Kanavis said:
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It is an inexact science. The line between hard hits and concussions is a little arbitrary. The Dx can be subjective. Concussions are something the NFL can point to so that they can say they are doing something. There is a ton of damage from regular hits.

Jones just isn't right today. Having BBIers speculate it may have something to do with getting knocked out a week ago isn't outrageous.


Thanks for that.
absolutely  
56GiantsUK : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
gave up on that play
RE: RE: RE: There are fans on this site that are convinced  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15417243 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15417208 Mike from Ohio said:


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Jones is really good, and no data or information will ever change that deeply held belief. There are only two data points they see - good plays by Jones and bad plays by everyone else.

And I guess now we have a concussion that the experts think is cleared that really isn’t.



Hard to argue those concrete stats....I just don't see many good plays by anyone else. Can you enlighten me? It's possible I missed some.



No I can’t. There are no good plays being made by anyone today. Leonard Williams maybe.

This team has very little talent. The line sucks and everyone sees that. The defense sucks and everyone sees that. The QB sucks but some on here seem to think he is playing a good game today.


Hard to defend him today...but this is easily his worst game of the season and he's surrounded by shit. I get wanting your QB to elevate your team...but how high can you elevate a pile of shit?
Honestly Mcvay  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
Keep pouring it on. No mercy keep scoring.
The  
AcidTest : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
Rams score even when they're not trying to do so.
RE: RE: Just because he was cleared  
JohnF : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15417233 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15417187 Dave on the UWS said:


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Doesn’t mean he was ready to play. Good job by Judge being tough enough to hold him out oh wait!


Idiotic!

He was cleared to play by an independent neurologist.


Maybe the "independent neurologist" had a concussion when he tested Jones...
Did Kupp pay Graham?  
trueblueinpw : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
I think he has two TD today, one with Peps covering him and then this one with Crowder? Like, wtf? Who are the DBs covering on these plays?
RE: RE: RE: There are fans on this site that are convinced  
Giantfan21 : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15417243 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15417230 Thunderstruck27 said:


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In comment 15417208 Mike from Ohio said:


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Jones is really good, and no data or information will ever change that deeply held belief. There are only two data points they see - good plays by Jones and bad plays by everyone else.

And I guess now we have a concussion that the experts think is cleared that really isn’t.



Hard to argue those concrete stats....I just don't see many good plays by anyone else. Can you enlighten me? It's possible I missed some.



No I can’t. There are no good plays being made by anyone today. Leonard Williams maybe.

This team has very little talent. The line sucks and everyone sees that. The defense sucks and everyone sees that. The QB sucks but some on here seem to think he is playing a good game today.


Haven't seen 1 person say he is playing a good game today
RE: It’s remarkable how  
TyreeHelmet : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15417232 Dave on the UWS said:
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non- competitive this team is. Don’t tell me about the injuries. Win no, competitive yes.


This^. I can’t hear the excuses being made anymore from the fans. It’s truly sad what this fan base has become and expects.

This team routinely gets embarrassed. The defense isn’t even trying right now. Need to fully clean house. Gettleman should be fired tonight.
Maybe  
Ron Johnson : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
We can get MacAdoo back
RE: Honestly Mcvay  
Sammo85 : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15417259 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Keep pouring it on. No mercy keep scoring.


Yup. Put a 50 spot on there.
RE: You all act like concussion management is a straightforward process...  
ajr2456 : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15417244 Kanavis said:
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It is an inexact science. The line between hard hits and concussions is a little arbitrary. The Dx can be subjective. Concussions are something the NFL can point to so that they can say they are doing something. There is a ton of damage from regular hits.

Jones just isn't right today. Having BBIers speculate it may have something to do with getting knocked out a week ago isn't outrageous.


Staring down a reviewer is not a result of the concussion when he’s done it his whole career.
RE: RE: Jones  
crick n NC : 10/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15417253 rsjem1979 said:
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Does not look right today.



I don't know, to me he looks pretty similar to how he's looked in the majority of his career starts.


This bad? Nah, not like this.
One QB that stares down his WRs...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/17/2021 3:27 pm : link
And the other QB doesn't even have to look at his WR to throw a TD.
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