I've heard that on BBI the last 4 years. We should feel very privileged that Dave Gettelman is our GM. The heroism to be condescending to reporters who ask about analytics knows no bounds. We are so lucky.
you've only heard that from a few people who become prolifically aggressive towards anyone expressing doubts about the Giants. There are more anti-Gettleman folks than pro as far as I can tell.
I wish I had confidence in the next hire. I like Jones but that will be a prerequisite to getting the job next year. Whoever doesn’t commit to Jones in the interview process won’t be considered for the job.
Just like Gettleman telling Mara what he wanted to hear when he got hired. That they could still win with Eli.
The process is just going to be another sham. I hope they start over with the coaching staff at least. They’re incompetent. All of them, Judge included.
It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
Um yes people were talking up Gettelman as a good GM. For a long time. If you paid attention here you would know.
You’ve already backed it off your original statement. You said people were saying he’s a great GM. Now you are saying people are saying he’s a good GM. There is a difference. And who gives a shit, really? Who cares what “ sone people” said years ago?
RE: RE: RE: RE: I actually do not remember ANYONE..
It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
Um yes people were talking up Gettelman as a good GM. For a long time. If you paid attention here you would know.
You’ve already backed it off your original statement. You said people were saying he’s a great GM. Now you are saying people are saying he’s a good GM. There is a difference. And who gives a shit, really? Who cares what “ sone people” said years ago?
Wow you're parsing my original post between good and great. Cool story bro.
I wish I had confidence in the next hire. I like Jones but that will be a prerequisite to getting the job next year. Whoever doesn’t commit to Jones in the interview process won’t be considered for the job.
Just like Gettleman telling Mara what he wanted to hear when he got hired. That they could still win with Eli.
The process is just going to be another sham. I hope they start over with the coaching staff at least. They’re incompetent. All of them, Judge included.
I hope you’re wrong. If the process is a sham than Mara doesn’t care about winning and just wants a profit, I don’t believe that. I think he knows there needs to be legitimate changes this time around.
you've only heard that from a few people who become prolifically aggressive towards anyone expressing doubts about the Giants. There are more anti-Gettleman folks than pro as far as I can tell.
Maybe now. But not before the start of last year. Last year more began to convert during and after the season but still a lot of optimism too.
Before that you were categorized "as a hater" or "A miserable bastard" if you criticized him. Still this year there were many like that.
Please don’t act like you’re the only one who didn’t want him as GM.
For the record I was fine with the hire. Unlike others, I'm ok with admitting I was wrong. What is weird to me is people arguing against obvious facts and evidence. But here we are. Rome wasn't built in a day, dahling. (But plenty of good NFL teams were built in 2 years.)
Wow do you twist things.
Sure no one said he is GREAT. But MANY MANY MANY on ere did stick up for him and would say things like "I'd rather believe DG than you etc."
Wow - have oyu tried to twist things or what?
C'mon who are you kidding??????????!!!!!
RE: Gettleman is lapping Ray Handley as a destructive force
you've only heard that from a few people who become prolifically aggressive towards anyone expressing doubts about the Giants. There are more anti-Gettleman folks than pro as far as I can tell.
Maybe now. But not before the start of last year. Last year more began to convert during and after the season but still a lot of optimism too.
Before that you were categorized "as a hater" or "A miserable bastard" if you criticized him. Still this year there were many like that.
Sure but again, how many posters regularly did that? Not very many. Just a few often said it.
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
Again posters like you weasling words. The posters were aggressive defending DG. They didn't have ot say DG was a good GM. Instead they would defend big time that he didn't suck.
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
So silly. Agree, nobody would use words like great, but they still would support him in staying his role.
Suggesting he had good hits and bad, that no GM bats a thousand, that Reese left him with garbage, that the Owners hamstrung him with Eli, that he did well in Carolina, and that he just needs time.
saying that since Judge had a say in personnel decisions that he was responsible. That wasn’t last month or last year, it was Thursday.
And they know this...how?
Gettleman supporters became more vocal Judge supporters to separate themselves from the former. Then Judge started to look suspect so now they have nowhere else to go...
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
So silly. Agree, nobody would use words like great, but they still would support him in staying his role.
Suggesting he had good hits and bad, that no GM bats a thousand, that Reese left him with garbage, that the Owners hamstrung him with Eli, that he did well in Carolina, and that he just needs time.
What a joke to backtrack now on those posts...
I sure hope you’re not saying I’m backtracking on any posts. Please go search the archives. I’ve never said shit about DG. And if I knew a poster was praising him I’d probably remember their handle since it would be so rare.
Shit, once he picked up that Jax OL his first season at the helm I was terrified of what he was bringing to the team.
The GM gets way too much blame for this mess. I’m not even a DG defender as much as I feel it’s way too easy to put all the blame on him. If he got fired into the Hackensack River tonight I wouldn’t lose sleep. He’s lost a lot here so he needs to shoulder a lot of the blame, but I think the HC makes or breaks the GM more often than not. Just how I feel. I have never had a dog in this race other than I want to win.
The GM gets way too much blame for this mess. I’m not even a DG defender as much as I feel it’s way too easy to put all the blame on him. If he got fired into the Hackensack River tonight I wouldn’t lose sleep. He’s lost a lot here so he needs to shoulder a lot of the blame, but I think the HC makes or breaks the GM more often than not. Just how I feel. I have never had a dog in this race other than I want to win.
DG inherited a mess. Yet, he had 4 offseasons, a ton of early draft picks, had the ability to pick his own QB and spend up to the cap in free agency every single year, change over his scouts and the coaches.
Yesterday.
Not sure what you mean, but he absolutely should be fired.
It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
There is no way DG can be back. No citing injuries, none of that. He needs to go. Should be tonight.
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It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
That's saying someting.
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.... saying DG is a great GM
It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
Um yes people were talking up Gettelman as a good GM. For a long time. If you paid attention here you would know.
Just like Gettleman telling Mara what he wanted to hear when he got hired. That they could still win with Eli.
The process is just going to be another sham. I hope they start over with the coaching staff at least. They’re incompetent. All of them, Judge included.
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It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
Um yes people were talking up Gettelman as a good GM. For a long time. If you paid attention here you would know.
You’ve already backed it off your original statement. You said people were saying he’s a great GM. Now you are saying people are saying he’s a good GM. There is a difference. And who gives a shit, really? Who cares what “ sone people” said years ago?
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In comment 15416981 EricJ said:
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.... saying DG is a great GM
It probably never happened. The OP is made at some imaginary person
Um yes people were talking up Gettelman as a good GM. For a long time. If you paid attention here you would know.
You’ve already backed it off your original statement. You said people were saying he’s a great GM. Now you are saying people are saying he’s a good GM. There is a difference. And who gives a shit, really? Who cares what “ sone people” said years ago?
Wow you're parsing my original post between good and great. Cool story bro.
Just like Gettleman telling Mara what he wanted to hear when he got hired. That they could still win with Eli.
The process is just going to be another sham. I hope they start over with the coaching staff at least. They’re incompetent. All of them, Judge included.
I hope you’re wrong. If the process is a sham than Mara doesn’t care about winning and just wants a profit, I don’t believe that. I think he knows there needs to be legitimate changes this time around.
Maybe not “great”, but many still supported him early this season. All of the naysayers were haters who knew nothing about football.
Maybe now. But not before the start of last year. Last year more began to convert during and after the season but still a lot of optimism too.
Before that you were categorized "as a hater" or "A miserable bastard" if you criticized him. Still this year there were many like that.
For the record I was fine with the hire. Unlike others, I'm ok with admitting I was wrong. What is weird to me is people arguing against obvious facts and evidence. But here we are. Rome wasn't built in a day, dahling. (But plenty of good NFL teams were built in 2 years.)
Oh My God!!!!!
Wow do you twist things.
Sure no one said he is GREAT. But MANY MANY MANY on ere did stick up for him and would say things like "I'd rather believe DG than you etc."
Wow - have oyu tried to twist things or what?
C'mon who are you kidding??????????!!!!!
He has to go immediately. Someone has to pay for this disaster and he is the architect. It needs to be tonight.
He is much worse. Ray actually had a .500 record in 91 here.
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you've only heard that from a few people who become prolifically aggressive towards anyone expressing doubts about the Giants. There are more anti-Gettleman folks than pro as far as I can tell.
Maybe now. But not before the start of last year. Last year more began to convert during and after the season but still a lot of optimism too.
Before that you were categorized "as a hater" or "A miserable bastard" if you criticized him. Still this year there were many like that.
Sure but again, how many posters regularly did that? Not very many. Just a few often said it.
Some of you sound like big assholes.
Yes, but they still should as Giant fans.
Maybe they don't because they took to hard a stance on supporting a bad view on DG. Whatever...
They didn't like being told their belief was wrong, and doubled down on it at every opportunity.
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
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.... saying DG is a great GM
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
Again posters like you weasling words. The posters were aggressive defending DG. They didn't have ot say DG was a good GM. Instead they would defend big time that he didn't suck.
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.... saying DG is a great GM
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
So silly. Agree, nobody would use words like great, but they still would support him in staying his role.
Suggesting he had good hits and bad, that no GM bats a thousand, that Reese left him with garbage, that the Owners hamstrung him with Eli, that he did well in Carolina, and that he just needs time.
What a joke to backtrack now on those posts...
And they know this...how?
Gettleman supporters became more vocal Judge supporters to separate themselves from the former. Then Judge started to look suspect so now they have nowhere else to go...
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.... saying DG is a great GM
Put me in this camp. I’ve heard a few say give him some more time. But never have a I read a single post on BBI saying DG is a great or even good GM.
So silly. Agree, nobody would use words like great, but they still would support him in staying his role.
Suggesting he had good hits and bad, that no GM bats a thousand, that Reese left him with garbage, that the Owners hamstrung him with Eli, that he did well in Carolina, and that he just needs time.
What a joke to backtrack now on those posts...
I sure hope you’re not saying I’m backtracking on any posts. Please go search the archives. I’ve never said shit about DG. And if I knew a poster was praising him I’d probably remember their handle since it would be so rare.
Shit, once he picked up that Jax OL his first season at the helm I was terrified of what he was bringing to the team.
They may have been just clueless NYG homers and not have used the word great, but it was very clear as to their views.
They may have been just clueless NYG homers and not have used the word great, but it was very clear as to their views.
He didn’t have fan boys. But I’d imagine he had fans that wanted to give him a chance. Why would a fan base root against the new lead of their GM?
The way you’re wording things is that he had dug in advocates. I don’t recall any.
DG inherited a mess. Yet, he had 4 offseasons, a ton of early draft picks, had the ability to pick his own QB and spend up to the cap in free agency every single year, change over his scouts and the coaches.
And he still didn't improve it one single bit.
He sucks at this...