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Dave Gettleman cannot be GM before trade deadline.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/17/2021 3:25 pm
In short, he should be fired tonight. No way this man should be in a position to make long terms moves on behalf of this franchise.

This team needs to sell every asset possible.
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broadbandz : 10/17/2021 3:27 pm : link
not a single team want our trash players.
So an interim GM  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:27 pm : link
Should be making the decisions? Unless you have your GM on hand right now, you can’t fire Gettleman until the end of the season.
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AcidTest : 10/17/2021 3:28 pm : link
would fire him right now. The Giants won't. I think he's gone at the end of the year, but I'd do it now because as you say he might make additional stupid personnel decisions before the trade deadline, which is just a few weeks away.
This fanbase is loyal..  
Sean : 10/17/2021 3:28 pm : link
The Giants are about to be 16-38 under Gettleman as GM. He needs to be fired TONIGHT. None of this “let him retire” BS. He hasn’t earned that. 2x SB champ GM Jerry Reese was unable to retire, so why should Gettleman.

FIRE HIM TONIGHT.
What's hilarious is that Philly traded Ertz first chance they got  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/17/2021 3:29 pm : link
This fool could've traded Engram last year and ruled it out. What happens? Engram gets hurt and now with another lost season his value is manure.

Indicative of the backwards way the team has been run since 2013 - reactive not proactive.

HOG MOLLIES.
RE: This fanbase is loyal..  
BigBlueinDE : 10/17/2021 3:29 pm : link
In comment 15417290 Sean said:
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The Giants are about to be 16-38 under Gettleman as GM. He needs to be fired TONIGHT. None of this “let him retire” BS. He hasn’t earned that. 2x SB champ GM Jerry Reese was unable to retire, so why should Gettleman.

FIRE HIM TONIGHT.


What exactly would that accomplish?
RE: RE: This fanbase is loyal..  
chuckydee9 : 10/17/2021 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15417305 BigBlueinDE said:
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In comment 15417290 Sean said:


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The Giants are about to be 16-38 under Gettleman as GM. He needs to be fired TONIGHT. None of this “let him retire” BS. He hasn’t earned that. 2x SB champ GM Jerry Reese was unable to retire, so why should Gettleman.

FIRE HIM TONIGHT.



What exactly would that accomplish?


He won't be able to screw up the future..
RE: RE: This fanbase is loyal..  
Sean : 10/17/2021 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15417305 BigBlueinDE said:
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In comment 15417290 Sean said:


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The Giants are about to be 16-38 under Gettleman as GM. He needs to be fired TONIGHT. None of this “let him retire” BS. He hasn’t earned that. 2x SB champ GM Jerry Reese was unable to retire, so why should Gettleman.

FIRE HIM TONIGHT.



What exactly would that accomplish?

Geez, the standards are low around here.
RE: I  
Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15417287 AcidTest said:
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would fire him right now. The Giants won't. I think he's gone at the end of the year, but I'd do it now because as you say he might make additional stupid personnel decisions before the trade deadline, which is just a few weeks away.



Acid,

If I remember correctly, you were one of the few advocating for Josh Allen on a trade back. Man, if we had only done that.
RE: I  
BigBlueinDE : 10/17/2021 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15417287 AcidTest said:
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would fire him right now. The Giants won't. I think he's gone at the end of the year, but I'd do it now because as you say he might make additional stupid personnel decisions before the trade deadline, which is just a few weeks away.


I doubt it. My guess is that few, if any, teams hold the Giants personnel outside of a handful of players in high enough regard that they would be willing to give up assets for in a trade.
RE: RE: This fanbase is loyal..  
Mike from SI : 10/17/2021 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15417305 BigBlueinDE said:
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In comment 15417290 Sean said:


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The Giants are about to be 16-38 under Gettleman as GM. He needs to be fired TONIGHT. None of this “let him retire” BS. He hasn’t earned that. 2x SB champ GM Jerry Reese was unable to retire, so why should Gettleman.

FIRE HIM TONIGHT.



What exactly would that accomplish?


It would accomplish not having someone incompetent running the franchise.
They’ll announce he’s retiring shortly  
bigbluescot : 10/17/2021 3:37 pm : link
then do something stupid like having him, Coughlin and Ernie ‘lead the search’

Agreed  
adamg : 10/17/2021 3:42 pm : link
They need to stock pile picks and keep most of them or trade them for future picks.
RE: RE: I  
AcidTest : 10/17/2021 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15417329 Keaton028 said:
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In comment 15417287 AcidTest said:


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would fire him right now. The Giants won't. I think he's gone at the end of the year, but I'd do it now because as you say he might make additional stupid personnel decisions before the trade deadline, which is just a few weeks away.




Acid,

If I remember correctly, you were one of the few advocating for Josh Allen on a trade back. Man, if we had only done that.


No. I wanted Barkley or Darnold if we stayed at #2, but that was before I knew that Cleveland offered both their second round picks to move from #4 to #2. I absolutely would have taken that deal. My pick at #4 probably would have been Nelson, although Allen and Rosen would have been considered.

I had questions about Allen's accuracy. He also broke the collarbone in his non throwing shoulder, which had to be fixed with plates and screws.
RE: They’ll announce he’s retiring shortly  
Angel Eyes : 10/17/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15417375 bigbluescot said:
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then do something stupid like having him, Coughlin and Ernie ‘lead the search’

I still don't understand what was going on in Accorsi's head when he suggested Gettleman. Gettleman seems to have been a poor disciple.
RE: RE: RE: I  
Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15417439 AcidTest said:
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would fire him right now. The Giants won't. I think he's gone at the end of the year, but I'd do it now because as you say he might make additional stupid personnel decisions before the trade deadline, which is just a few weeks away.




Acid,

If I remember correctly, you were one of the few advocating for Josh Allen on a trade back. Man, if we had only done that.



No. I wanted Barkley or Darnold if we stayed at #2, but that was before I knew that Cleveland offered both their second round picks to move from #4 to #2. I absolutely would have taken that deal. My pick at #4 probably would have been Nelson, although Allen and Rosen would have been considered.

I had questions about Allen's accuracy. He also broke the collarbone in his non throwing shoulder, which had to be fixed with plates and screws.



Oh ok, thanks for the honesty. For some reason I thought I remembered you banging the drum for trading down, and also being very interested in Allen.
Gettleman vs. John Idzik  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/17/2021 3:50 pm : link
who is worse?
Can’t fire him  
Heisenberg : 10/17/2021 3:53 pm : link
Any day now those Hog Mollies will be arriving
RE: RE: They’ll announce he’s retiring shortly  
Danny Kanell : 10/17/2021 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15417450 Angel Eyes said:
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then do something stupid like having him, Coughlin and Ernie ‘lead the search’



I still don't understand what was going on in Accorsi's head when he suggested Gettleman. Gettleman seems to have been a poor disciple.


Do some research. He owed him a favor.
Give Gettleman one more year to see if he can right the ship  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2021 4:22 pm : link
as I think he's close.

Remember, not every GM bats a thousand...
RE: So an interim GM  
GMen72 : 10/17/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15417282 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Should be making the decisions? Unless you have your GM on hand right now, you can’t fire Gettleman until the end of the season.


WTF? Gettleman has no business running a neighborhood HOA, much less a NFL franchise. Get this loser out of the building ASAP!

I would ask this. Who is someone on our roster other teams would want with their current contracts? Jackson might be the only one. Barkley is always hurt. Engram can't catch. LW is grossly overpaid. Martinez is hurt.
Ernie was on a podcast with Paul Schwartz  
arniefez : 10/17/2021 5:48 pm : link
A few weeks before the season started and he said paraphrasing, when he quit he recommended Reese as his replacement and Gettleman was really hurt and left for Carolina. Ernie said it was a really difficult a call between the two so when the job reopened he felt he owed Gettleman this time. The Giants don’t suck because of bad luck. The Mara’s have worked hard to get here.
RE: Ernie was on a podcast with Paul Schwartz  
Producer : 10/17/2021 5:52 pm : link
In comment 15417965 arniefez said:
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A few weeks before the season started and he said paraphrasing, when he quit he recommended Reese as his replacement and Gettleman was really hurt and left for Carolina. Ernie said it was a really difficult a call between the two so when the job reopened he felt he owed Gettleman this time. The Giants don’t suck because of bad luck. The Mara’s have worked hard to get here.


repaying favors rather than hiring the most talented people will almost always derail an organization.
RE: Ernie was on a podcast with Paul Schwartz  
bw in dc : 10/17/2021 5:57 pm : link
In comment 15417965 arniefez said:
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A few weeks before the season started and he said paraphrasing, when he quit he recommended Reese as his replacement and Gettleman was really hurt and left for Carolina. Ernie said it was a really difficult a call between the two so when the job reopened he felt he owed Gettleman this time. The Giants don’t suck because of bad luck. The Mara’s have worked hard to get here.


It was last year and I remember listening to it.

In essence, Accorsi felt guilty so he offered the job to Gettleman out of sympathy.

I mean, you just can't make this up anymore...
bw in dc.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/17/2021 5:58 pm : link
It's obvious EA did his buddy a solid in recommending DG to Mara. And it set this franchise back years. Thanks Wig!
RE: RE: Ernie was on a podcast with Paul Schwartz  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2021 6:01 pm : link
In comment 15417996 bw in dc said:
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A few weeks before the season started and he said paraphrasing, when he quit he recommended Reese as his replacement and Gettleman was really hurt and left for Carolina. Ernie said it was a really difficult a call between the two so when the job reopened he felt he owed Gettleman this time. The Giants don’t suck because of bad luck. The Mara’s have worked hard to get here.



It was last year and I remember listening to it.

In essence, Accorsi felt guilty so he offered the job to Gettleman out of sympathy.

I mean, you just can't make this up anymore...


But Gettleman had a great run in Carolina while he was there. And could find Offensive Lineman and knew how to build a roster. Playoffs, Super Bowl, their best GM ever.

There was a guy on this site that used to tell everybody that...
RE: Ernie was on a podcast with Paul Schwartz  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2021 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15417965 arniefez said:
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A few weeks before the season started and he said paraphrasing, when he quit he recommended Reese as his replacement and Gettleman was really hurt and left for Carolina. Ernie said it was a really difficult a call between the two so when the job reopened he felt he owed Gettleman this time. The Giants don’t suck because of bad luck. The Mara’s have worked hard to get here.


That totally tracks with the attitude Gettleman came in the door with. He felt like he was owed something.

"I'm here to kick ass".
RE: bw in dc.  
bw in dc : 10/17/2021 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15417999 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It's obvious EA did his buddy a solid in recommending DG to Mara. And it set this franchise back years. Thanks Wig!


I don't want to relitigate this, but it was abundantly clear once Accorsi was hired that Gettleman was a foregone conclusion.
bw in dc.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/17/2021 6:04 pm : link
Nor do I, but EA-for all the good he did with this organization in laying the groundwork for multiple Super Bowl teams-totally fucked us with the Gettleman hire.

Gettleman is making Handley look like Parcells.
RE: bw in dc.  
rsjem1979 : 10/17/2021 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15418021 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Nor do I, but EA-for all the good he did with this organization in laying the groundwork for multiple Super Bowl teams-totally fucked us with the Gettleman hire.

Gettleman is making Handley look like Parcells.


Ernie couldn't have fucked us if John Mara had a clue how to conduct an organizational evaluation and legitimate GM search.

It's shocking how disconnected Mara is from the reality of the modern NFL.
RE: bw in dc.  
bw in dc : 10/17/2021 6:36 pm : link
In comment 15418021 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Nor do I, but EA-for all the good he did with this organization in laying the groundwork for multiple Super Bowl teams-totally fucked us with the Gettleman hire.

Gettleman is making Handley look like Parcells.


Agreed. Still, it's Mara's fault for hiring Accorsi.

But because he's so entrenched in the "Giants Way", he knew "Giants Way" grad Accorsi would find another "Giants Way" alumnae to fill the open spot...
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BrettNYG10 : 10/17/2021 6:36 pm : link
Fire DG, make any BBI poster interim GM.
RE: ....  
bw in dc : 10/17/2021 6:46 pm : link
In comment 15418092 BrettNYG10 said:
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Fire DG, make any BBI poster interim GM.


Alas, and too many of us know this, the GM-in-waiting is very likely Abrams.

He could be the answer - but I'm betting he isn't just because he's been in that damn building way too long...
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