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It’s one game. It’s 1 Loss.

JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:34 pm
I understand people are pissed and want everyone fired, but it’s 1 Game and 1 Loss. It’s the same result as losing by 3 to the Falcons. Let’s just hope we can get our guys back and we can start playing positive football going forward.
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It's 5 losses  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2021 3:39 pm : link
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It's 40 losses since 2017, or some impossible number close to that.
I just think people need to calm down  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:40 pm : link
Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.
RE: It's 5 losses  
Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15417397 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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It's 40 losses since 2017, or some impossible number close to that.


51 I think. LOL.
Giants  
Sammo85 : 10/17/2021 3:41 pm : link
have the Panthers, Raiders, Chiefs, Bucs all coming up in next month or so. They will lose all of them.
RE: I just think people need to calm down  
Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:41 pm : link
In comment 15417400 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.


How does keeping the same regime in place build positive momentum?
Wha the fuck?  
SomeFan : 10/17/2021 3:41 pm : link
Doesn't this team have the worst aggregate record in the NFL for the past three years or is it longer? Of all the ways to look at this, the 100% absolute last way to look at this is as "one game, one loss" because it has been consistent, long-term LOSING!
RE: I just think people need to calm down  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15417400 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.


How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.
This is the level-headed response this board needs!  
Knineteen : 10/17/2021 3:42 pm : link
Super-Bowl, here we come!!!
RE: RE: I just think people need to calm down  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15417409 Keaton028 said:
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How does keeping the same regime in place build positive momentum?


When did I mention, keeping the current regime? It’s obvious Gettleman is gone after this season. Will Judge be gone? That’s what remains to be seen.
RE: I just think people need to calm down  
Mdgiantsfan : 10/17/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15417400 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.


So how many losses does it warrant such an action? Or maybe the better more positive question is what actions constitute positive momentum?

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Banks : 10/17/2021 3:43 pm : link
I get what you're saying and I think everyone expected to be beat by 2 scores or more. I think it's just that the team looked so inept after the first series and then throw in that we already had a string of losses. In 2018 we could at least enjoy Barkley. Last year we could at least enjoy the defense. This year has nothing positive. Maybe Toney
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JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15417417 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.


We had positive momentum against a good Saints team. Then everyone got hurt. Why can’t we do it again?
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Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:44 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How does keeping the same regime in place build positive momentum?



When did I mention, keeping the current regime? It’s obvious Gettleman is gone after this season. Will Judge be gone? That’s what remains to be seen.


Didn’t you just say “Firing everyone doesn’t solve anything “? Maybe take the time to explain what you mean. How are we supposed to take that statement?
1 loss. That’s one way to look at it.  
Heisenberg : 10/17/2021 3:44 pm : link
Alternately, it’s the 51st loss since 2017
Huh  
Matt M. : 10/17/2021 3:45 pm : link
That's what winning teams get to say after a bad game. When you are 1-5 coming off of 6-11 and nearly an entire decade of losing seasons, it is so far from 1 game and 1 loss it isn't even funny. With our record, that is a lower mentality.
This is what the coaches will tell the players  
JonC : 10/17/2021 3:47 pm : link
but the pattern and lack of talent are obvious.
JonC - exactly.  
Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:48 pm : link
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2021 3:48 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.



We had positive momentum against a good Saints team. Then everyone got hurt. Why can’t we do it again?
there's no proof that they can turn into a consistent team. They have never done it. The saints game wasn't it either. They were down until the 4th quarter then rallied for a win late.

This team nearly never plays a full 4 quarters good football game under this coach. The coach doesn't have the players and doesn't put the players they DO have in good positions to succeed.
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JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:48 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How does keeping the same regime in place build positive momentum?



When did I mention, keeping the current regime? It’s obvious Gettleman is gone after this season. Will Judge be gone? That’s what remains to be seen.



Didn’t you just say “Firing everyone doesn’t solve anything “? Maybe take the time to explain what you mean. How are we supposed to take that statement?



Fire Gettleman
Fire Chris Mara
Fire Joe Judge
Fire Patrick Graham
Fire Jason Garrett

That’s all you see after every loss, or in every losing game thread.
RE: RE: RE: I just think people need to calm down  
Section331 : 10/17/2021 3:49 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.



We had positive momentum against a good Saints team. Then everyone got hurt. Why can’t we do it again?


Maybe the Saints game was the outlier, not the 5 losses.
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JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 3:54 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.



We had positive momentum against a good Saints team. Then everyone got hurt. Why can’t we do it again?



Maybe the Saints game was the outlier, not the 5 losses.



How many games have the Giants had Barkley, Golloday, Toney, Slayton, and Thomas completely healthy?
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Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:55 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.



We had positive momentum against a good Saints team. Then everyone got hurt. Why can’t we do it again?



Maybe the Saints game was the outlier, not the 5 losses.




How many games have the Giants had Barkley, Golloday, Toney, Slayton, and Thomas completely healthy?


I gotta be honest, outside of AT and KT, the other guys may not be as good as you think.
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Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 3:57 pm : link
Careful man, don’t want to see you get the ban hammer.
Lol  
Shady Lurker : 10/17/2021 3:58 pm : link
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Understand what OP is about  
bc4life : 10/17/2021 4:07 pm : link
But more than just one game. Setting aside 2 close losses, team is marginally talented and ravaged by injuries.

Hopefully, they get people back and when the schedule gets a little easier, they can start to see what they have to build on
Nice post  
noro9 : 10/17/2021 4:23 pm : link
Mrs. Judge
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Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2021 4:26 pm : link
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.



How many games played until we are allowed to say they've had enough time to build positive momentum. If the coaches and management aren't capable of it, find ones that are.



We had positive momentum against a good Saints team. Then everyone got hurt. Why can’t we do it again?



Maybe the Saints game was the outlier, not the 5 losses.




How many games have the Giants had Barkley, Golloday, Toney, Slayton, and Thomas completely healthy?


The entire league is built on teams finding ways to play through injuries. Baltimore lost two starting RBs and they're a run first team. They rushed for 187 today.

The Giants won a super bowl playing backups in the secondary. Injuries happen. Falling to total pieces when you don't have your starting lineups in perfect health is a symptom of a poorly built roster and subpar coaching.

TTH  
bc4life : 10/17/2021 4:28 pm : link
All starts up front - they did ok with DL but OL - oh my. Blew 2 1st round and 1 2nd round pick on OL - hard to overcome bad decisions like that
RE: TTH  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15417669 bc4life said:
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All starts up front - they did ok with DL but OL - oh my. Blew 2 1st round and 1 2nd round pick on OL - hard to overcome bad decisions like that



So Thomas is a blown pick now??? LOL
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Keaton028 : 10/17/2021 4:47 pm : link
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All starts up front - they did ok with DL but OL - oh my. Blew 2 1st round and 1 2nd round pick on OL - hard to overcome bad decisions like that




So Thomas is a blown pick now??? LOL


Thomas is not a blown pick, and should be built around. He is like the one bright spot on this squad.
RE: Another 1-5 start..  
Red Right Hand : 10/17/2021 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15417368 Sean said:
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16-38 under Gettleman. Judge is 7-15 as HC. 6-32 in the first half of the season since 2017. 19-51 since 2017.

1 loss? It’s another season over far before Halloween.
The 2 positions are not mutually exclusive.
No Joey Thomas is not a blown pick  
bc4life : 10/17/2021 4:49 pm : link
was referring to previous blown draft picks
1 game 1 loss  
BH28 : 10/17/2021 4:53 pm : link
is how the Maras have viewed this for the past decade. Can't see the forest for the trees.
I think he's doing this  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/17/2021 5:18 pm : link
to get a rise out of people.

Nobody can be this positive.
RE: Giants  
sphinx : 10/17/2021 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15417407 Sammo85 said:
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have the Panthers, Raiders, Chiefs, Bucs all coming up in next month or so. They will lose all of them.

Yeah, but 1 at a time, as the man says
Cmon man.  
Joe Beckwith : 10/17/2021 5:34 pm : link
It’s their 623rd regular season loss.

Doomed.
It's stunning to me  
j_rud : 10/17/2021 5:37 pm : link
that people will continue to rationalize this. What in God's name have you been watching?
RE: It's stunning to me  
Producer : 10/17/2021 5:37 pm : link
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that people will continue to rationalize this. What in God's name have you been watching?


it's a great question. They fall in love with the players and can't see beyond it.
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Sammo85 : 10/17/2021 6:40 pm : link
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that people will continue to rationalize this. What in God's name have you been watching?


It’s perplexing. The excusing of repeated shoddy play by some players and losing is really out there.
RE: I just think people need to calm down  
giantstock : 10/17/2021 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15417400 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Firing everyone isn’t going to solve anything. Building positive momentum will.


Hahahhaha

Thanks buddy. You made me laugh.

Others think you're serious. Nice joke. Very funny.
It’s 1 game one loss  
cjac : 10/17/2021 7:02 pm : link
Yup.

For 10 years in a row.
Ty for sending up the bat signal  
djm : 10/17/2021 7:06 pm : link
For someone to post the nyg record since 2012. Because we need to see this fucking crap every day around here.
My posts are bad  
Jalapeno : 10/17/2021 7:51 pm : link
Super bad

But this...
This forum has really turned to shit the last few years  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2021 9:05 pm : link
When the Giants win a game, everyone is overly positive. When they lose a game, then people are overly dramatic and everyone needs to get fired. The team needs to get blown up.

All I’m saying it’s that even though we got blown out, it’s still counts as 1 lost. We still have 11 games to play, and hopefully we get some of our better players back soon in Thomas, Toney, Barkley, and Golloday. We won’t have many Sundays like today.
RE: This forum has really turned to shit the last few years  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15418526 JoeyBigBlue said:
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When the Giants win a game, everyone is overly positive. When they lose a game, then people are overly dramatic and everyone needs to get fired. The team needs to get blown up.

All I’m saying it’s that even though we got blown out, it’s still counts as 1 lost. We still have 11 games to play, and hopefully we get some of our better players back soon in Thomas, Toney, Barkley, and Golloday. We won’t have many Sundays like today.


It's not fair to expect everyone to have the memory of a goldfish from week to week. This isn't just one loss. It's consistent losing built up over a near decade. People have a right to be upset.
RE: This forum has really turned to shit the last few years  
rsjem1979 : 10/17/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15418526 JoeyBigBlue said:
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When the Giants win a game, everyone is overly positive. When they lose a game, then people are overly dramatic and everyone needs to get fired. The team needs to get blown up.

All I’m saying it’s that even though we got blown out, it’s still counts as 1 lost. We still have 11 games to play, and hopefully we get some of our better players back soon in Thomas, Toney, Barkley, and Golloday. We won’t have many Sundays like today.


Well you're correct about the first part - literally every time the Giants win a game a lot of people think it's the start of something big.

Unfortunately the reality is that it's not and there's ample evidence that losses are to be expected and wins are extremely rare.
16-38 under Dave Gettleman's stewardship  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2021 11:22 pm : link
It's not "just one loss" anymore. When you start 1-5 or 1-6 every damned year, that's a pattern indicating that something is wrong.
RE: Ty for sending up the bat signal  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2021 11:24 pm : link
In comment 15418160 djm said:
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For someone to post the nyg record since 2012. Because we need to see this fucking crap every day around here.


Frankly, is there much else to say? They've been lovers for a decade, and so long as they keep making the same decisions and keeping the same buffoon running the franchise, it will continue.
Losers not lovers  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2021 11:25 pm : link
That's one of autocorrect's weirder choices
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