Is This The Worst Giants Team Of Your Lifetime?

But this is easily the worst stretch of Giants football I’ve ever seen

players they gave Fassel to work with...

For me, but this team has a chance as it’s only week 6

I would say it's real close

At least the 90s had some true building blocks and likeable players, they just needed a decent quarterback.

It's not the least talented team of the past five years, but given the big contracts and roster construction - this is the deepest the pit has been.

absolutely no talent on offense, really had no chance. QB's by the names of Del Gazio, Dean, Johnson, Goldsteyn, Norm Snead, and of course Paterson Plank Pisarcik. Pisarcik is notable of course the "the fumble" in 1978. Rumor has it the defense would tell the offense to "hold em" when they ran on the field

they are 1-5 but could have gone other way a few times.

Loss today was to same team that beat the Bucs.

In comment 15418295 bc4life said:

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they are 1-5 but could have gone other way a few times. Loss today was to same team that beat the Bucs.

We've been saying this for years, though. At this point, the record very accurately depicts what type of team this is and has been for years now.

1966

So I would say without a doubt this is the worst stretch in my experience. Very surreal.

but give this team time. I think they have it in them.

Clearly, you are what your record says you are - but those were games they could have and should have won - so they are capable of playing better than some of those teams I remember.

Team like this with marginal talent - you have to beat teams like Atlanta and Washington

but I'd guess we weren't real good with Gary Wood at QB

So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope.

But as a fan, the feeling is similar.

Not cole. Not anywhere near close.

Ugh.

Check out the 1966 season sometime

Scored 41 pts against the Redskins and lost by 32 pts

In comment 15418295 bc4life said:

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they are 1-5 but could have gone other way a few times. Loss today was to same team that beat the Bucs.

Couple of other plays and this team is 0-6.

Given the downward spiral, the expensive contracts on the roster, I think this team is the most hopeless yet.

This is - as of right now - the worst Giants team I've seen in my lifetime. They'd have to improve to get to 4-12 after 16 games which was Fassel's worst team.

McAdoo's 2017 disaster, as of right now, would kill this team. That team had no offensive line, but with this non-existent pass rush, old Eli would have all day to pick our terrible secondary apart, with or without Beckham. In that kind of situation, Eli had enough upstairs to still get the job done against a toothless defense like ours. In any game without Thomas, Spagnuolo would have easily gotten JPP and Vernon into position to get pressure on Jones and force him into bad decisions. Landon Collins and Snacks would destroy our anemic running game, forcing the Giants into constant 3rd and longs.

Yeah, I'm saying McAdoo's team was better than the Giants are right now. This team right now is the type of team he would've actually beaten.

I was born in 1983. The first year I remember watching was 1990, when I was 7 years old. Before these last 10 years, the worst teams I endured were the 1994-1999 teams with the likes of Brown, Kannell, and Graham at QB.

These past 10 years have absolutely changed that, though.

We were 0-9 by then, and it was only a 14 game schedule.

We were pathetic, no offense at all and just not competitive

In comment 15418347 81_Great_Dane said:

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So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope. But as a fan, the feeling is similar.

I wasn't around for the 70s, but honestly, Jones is about on the same tier as Kent Graham to me. Can start games, but is basically a fungible QB who is easily replaced by someone better.

Time. What’s different is there were always at least a few players or HC that had won, were great at one time so you just hoped it would turn around or at least you could watch them. Nowadays you really have to reach to find that and even then….

The 70s were worse bc they never won a Super Bowel. Now we have a few.

In comment 15418355 joeinpa said:

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Check out the 1966 season sometime Scored 41 pts against the Redskins and lost by 32 pts

Exactly...It just feels worse because it's current.

Drafting Tucker Fredrickson. Bad stretch of football.

and lost a game to the Redskins 72-41. Their one victory, 13-10, also came against the Redskins. That was the worst Giants team of my lifetime.

In comment 15418278 Rick Morehouse said:

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For me, but this team has a chance as it’s only week 6

2003 was the worst team and it was a surprise given where the franchise was from 2000-2002. And it helped usher in meaningful franchise altering changes. But this stretch, essentially an entire decade, has been absolutely demoralizing as you can imagine. I’ve never experienced bleak until this period. And what is even more depressing is there are no current indications that things will be any better in 2022 and beyond. That’s terrifying.

In comment 15418428 aquidneck said:

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and lost a game to the Redskins 72-41. Their one victory, 13-10, also came against the Redskins. That was the worst Giants team of my lifetime.

Yes. Worst Giants team ever.

it is.

I've been a fan since 1979. I've heard the stories from my older brother about the wilderness years part I.

As an adult, I understand then game and league more than when I was young. And I cannot comprehend why the organization does that it does year after year.

And I’m 16 years old again. When the Giants were the most important thing going on in life, this would hurt for weeks. Now, fuck it, this team doesn’t get anymore of my time and money until they get this fixed.

It was a vast, hopeless wasteland. Now, here appears “KT” from Oregon….6’5” 238……walking towards the draft, emerging through shimmering heatwaves…..can he deliver relevancy again to the currently hapless, hopeless current giants? They must FIRE DG, and draft “KT”. Count on JJ and his clueless coaches, disheartened players to deliver the gold nugget of a 1-16 record….now, it’s all up to the Lions…..to win one game, wish we could play them!

makes the Dave Brown years look like a cakewalk.

Never had a sense of hopelessness with this team until now.

Close.

In comment 15418371 FStubbs said:

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In comment 15418347 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope. But as a fan, the feeling is similar. I wasn't around for the 70s, but honestly, Jones is about on the same tier as Kent Graham to me. Can start games, but is basically a fungible QB who is easily replaced by someone better.

I get you don’t like Jones, but Kent Graham. Come on, get some objectivity. I was accused earlier tonight of writing an obtuse post, I think you just did as well.

In comment 15418505 joeinpa said:

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In comment 15418371 FStubbs said: Quote: In comment 15418347 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope. But as a fan, the feeling is similar. I wasn't around for the 70s, but honestly, Jones is about on the same tier as Kent Graham to me. Can start games, but is basically a fungible QB who is easily replaced by someone better. I get you don’t like Jones, but Kent Graham. Come on, get some objectivity. I was accused earlier tonight of writing an obtuse post, I think you just did as well.

No, I'm serious. On the football field, you tell me what Jones does that shows he's any better overall than Graham.

In fact, Graham actually beat a 13-0 Broncos team at one point. He had toughness, and, if everything was going well, he could win a game. Same as Jones.

Overall, Graham was a barely adequate starter and that's what Jones is right now. I think you're insulting Graham or simply don't remember the guy if you're saying it's obtuse to compare him to Jones.

I think the 1973 Giants (2-11-1) were the worst I have seen.

In comment 15418428 aquidneck said:

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and lost a game to the Redskins 72-41. Their one victory, 13-10, also came against the Redskins. That was the worst Giants team of my lifetime.

This team would take 2-3 weeks to score 41 points, though yes, they haven't been bad enough to give up 72 yet.

In comment 15418528 US1 Giants said:

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I think the 1973 Giants (2-11-1) were the worst I have seen.

Became a Giants fan in the late 60s.

In comment 15418527 FStubbs said:

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In comment 15418505 joeinpa said: Quote: In comment 15418371 FStubbs said: Quote: In comment 15418347 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope. But as a fan, the feeling is similar. I wasn't around for the 70s, but honestly, Jones is about on the same tier as Kent Graham to me. Can start games, but is basically a fungible QB who is easily replaced by someone better. I get you don’t like Jones, but Kent Graham. Come on, get some objectivity. I was accused earlier tonight of writing an obtuse post, I think you just did as well. No, I'm serious. On the football field, you tell me what Jones does that shows he's any better overall than Graham. In fact, Graham actually beat a 13-0 Broncos team at one point. He had toughness, and, if everything was going well, he could win a game. Same as Jones. Overall, Graham was a barely adequate starter and that's what Jones is right now. I think you're insulting Graham or simply don't remember the guy if you're saying it's obtuse to compare him to Jones.

LOL GTFO, holy shit some of these asshole responses. Graham??

1. Bad Offensive Lines
2. Lack of a pass rush
3. Significant injuries to starters

It's the formula for losing in the NFL. Each of these 3 creates a scenario where it's near impossible to win. Even having a mediocre QB (e.g. Kent Graham, Danny Kannell) can be overcome if these 3 areas don't occur.

I've been watching the Giants since 1973...and no this is not the worst roster I've ever seen, but the injuries to a thin Oline and no real edge rushers is killing this team.

In comment 15418541 BigBlueJ said:

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In comment 15418527 FStubbs said: Quote: In comment 15418505 joeinpa said: Quote: In comment 15418371 FStubbs said: Quote: In comment 15418347 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope. But as a fan, the feeling is similar. I wasn't around for the 70s, but honestly, Jones is about on the same tier as Kent Graham to me. Can start games, but is basically a fungible QB who is easily replaced by someone better. I get you don’t like Jones, but Kent Graham. Come on, get some objectivity. I was accused earlier tonight of writing an obtuse post, I think you just did as well. No, I'm serious. On the football field, you tell me what Jones does that shows he's any better overall than Graham. In fact, Graham actually beat a 13-0 Broncos team at one point. He had toughness, and, if everything was going well, he could win a game. Same as Jones. Overall, Graham was a barely adequate starter and that's what Jones is right now. I think you're insulting Graham or simply don't remember the guy if you're saying it's obtuse to compare him to Jones. LOL GTFO, holy shit some of these asshole responses. Graham??

GTFO? Make me, loser.

Go back and watch some film.

2017 at least had Eli but also a bunch of quitters and malcontents.

1996 at least had a good defense with Strahan, Armstead and Sehorn. But man that offense stunk.

I was born in 1971. My childhood Giants heroes were Brad Van Pelt and Rob Carpenter. Those were some lean years.

is since 2017 we have been so non competitive in games.

Sometimes the game is over at halftime (like today).

Home games - we haven't had many wins. The last game I went one which was a win was 2018 versus WSH (DJ's second game). I don't attend all - but go to most.

Right now we are cellar dwellers and have to find our way out.

I said today at the game a black cloud is over this org right now.

I'm going to cheat and split the 2003 season into two because there was the competitive, yet aggravating first half (4-4) and the completely deflating second half (0-8) that featured Giants' second and third-teamers.

The second-half 2003 team was the worst stretch of football I've seen, and it's not close.

NYG were outscored 219-78. Only one game within one score (19-13 L to TB). We lost to an ATL team that featured a QB (Kurt Kittner) who went 9-of-23 for 65 yards. The Joe Horn Saints game (45-7) is also in there. DAL K Billy Cundiff had 11 field goals against the Giants that year. Everything sucked.

2017 team is a close second. Third's up for debate.

Undoubtedly yes. They are a bad team. Perhaps there have been teams that are as bad or slightly worse. But there has never been a team that is less connected to the fan base. There is nobody on the 2021 Giants that has done anything significant in a Giants uniform.

Compare for a minute to the 2003 Giants, a very bad team. The core of that team had gone to the Super Bowl in 2000 and the playoffs a year before. We'd seen those guys make plays and win games as Giants.

Look at the names of guys who had been around for a few years: Strahan, Hamilton, Barrow, Collins, Tiki, Toomer, Hilliard, Petigout (and more).

Even the 2017 Giants had guys who had played well and won games just the year before. Who's the most accomplished Giant on this team? Williams? Barkley? Jones?

If I saw Strahan / Toomer / Hilliard / Hamilton losing games, at least I'd feel bad for them. Aside from just putting on the blue jersey, there is no reason to care about any of these guys.

And it's mainly because there is talent, a decent amount but it's so out of whack roster wise, it's a hit and miss mess. There is no clear plan. If there is any positive about Judge, it looks like our top picks in his time here can be cornerstone players. We have mortgaged the cap to save Gettleman's job this year and we are saddled with a lot of bad contracts on players past their prime or too often injured. We have no defensive cornerstone to build on, not one. We have a LT and a WR, end of story.

In comment 15418347 81_Great_Dane said:

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So no, not the worst of my lifetime — yet. There were some truly awful teams in the 70s with hardly any talent. Jones is far, FAR better than some of those QBs. When they have their guys on the field, at least there's hope. But as a fan, the feeling is similar.

This.

Saved me all the typing.

In comment 15418549 Tom in NY said:

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1. Bad Offensive Lines 2. Lack of a pass rush 3. Significant injuries to starters It's the formula for losing in the NFL. Each of these 3 creates a scenario where it's near impossible to win. Even having a mediocre QB (e.g. Kent Graham, Danny Kannell) can be overcome if these 3 areas don't occur. I've been watching the Giants since 1973...and no this is not the worst roster I've ever seen, but the injuries to a thin Oline and no real edge rushers is killing this team.

Well said. Dead on. BTW, I've been watching the Giants since 1956.