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Is This The Worst Giants Team Of Your Lifetime?

Maximus, Esq. : 10/17/2021 7:43 pm
I haven’t posted in quite a while, but was talking about today’s disaster with friends and we were discussing whether this is the absolute low point in a lifetime of watching this team. Obviously it depends on when you were born/became a fan.

I started in the late 70s/early 80s. Despite the putricity of those teams pre-Parcels (and some of the crap teams of the mid-90s), this really feels like the absolute low point for me in terms of lack of talent on a given roster, cluelessness of the front office, and just hopelessness on the horizon. Of course I was only 8/9 years old in late 70s so it could also be perspective. I’d be curious to hear what the old-timers think of this rancid festering heap of shit in comparison to the early 70s teams.
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It might not be as disappointing for me  
Beezer : 10/17/2021 11:07 pm : link
if not for last year. A season in which the Giants out-gained the eventual champs and lost by 2, then finished 5-3 with some notable play by the defense.

An off-season of defensive adds, plus what, on paper, appeared to be a re-tooling of the offensive weapons + Barkley’s return … it all had me realistic but optimistic. I was hoping for a .500-ish season.

Even after two heart-breaking losses and an 0-3 start, I thought the team was on the fence and close to leading the division.

Today, I’ve pretty much resigned myself to watching for improvements, not getting Jones killed, and curiously looking out for what may be inevitable firings.

This is far from the worst team of my Giants-rooting lifetime. It is, however, the most baffling - starting with Patrick Graham and his toreador defense.

Very disappointing.
2003 for me  
Tuckrule : 10/18/2021 12:06 am : link
The 2013 giants were horrible as well. Peyton Hillis the big win vs the josh Freeman rams. The false hope that Jon Beason can still play football
Josh Freeman Vikings*  
Tuckrule : 10/18/2021 12:06 am : link
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RE: The 1966 New York Giants finished 1-12-1  
jmdvm : 10/18/2021 12:33 am : link
In comment 15418428 aquidneck said:
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and lost a game to the Redskins 72-41. Their one victory, 13-10, also came against the Redskins. That was the worst Giants team of my lifetime.


And they scored 40 points the next week and lost to the Browns 49-40. The offense was entertaining. Earl Morrall threw a 98 yard TD pass to Homer Jones, but they couldn't stop anyone Gave up 501 points in 14 games. Absolutely no pass rush. Lots of injuries too.Earl Morrall broke his wrist, Gary Wood steps in. He gets hurt, so they sign Tom Kennedy off the sandlots of Brooklyn. And of course they traded the number one pick plus other for Tarkenton. So they could not rebuild the defense. Wouldn't matter though as they were inept at drafting.
Not even close  
VinegarPeppers : 10/18/2021 12:50 am : link
If you ignore the injuries and pretend we are losing with our best talent on the field, maybe. I go back to the mid 1960’s. No.
RE: Nope - those mid-1970's teams were worse  
SoZKillA : 10/18/2021 2:04 am : link
In comment 15418289 PatersonPlank said:
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absolutely no talent on offense, really had no chance. QB's by the names of Del Gazio, Dean, Johnson, Goldsteyn, Norm Snead, and of course Paterson Plank Pisarcik. Pisarcik is notable of course the "the fumble" in 1978. Rumor has it the defense would tell the offense to "hold em" when they ran on the field


The 1970s had WRs lining up in 3 point stances LOL and it was harder to score points, the rules have softened now and we can’t crack more than 21 points consistently.
Probably...  
Route 9 : 10/18/2021 4:35 am : link
What 90s team though? They're all legends compared to this team. 92? 95? 96? I see you said mid-90s.

At least in 95, for example, even when 5-11, they hung in there with some of the best. They barely lost to SF, Green Bay, and Dallas. That team lost a lot of close games. In 96, they beat Dallas.

This team is so unwatchable.
RE: RE: The 1966 New York Giants finished 1-12-1  
jeff57 : 10/18/2021 5:19 am : link
In comment 15418750 jmdvm said:
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In comment 15418428 aquidneck said:


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and lost a game to the Redskins 72-41. Their one victory, 13-10, also came against the Redskins. That was the worst Giants team of my lifetime.



And they scored 40 points the next week and lost to the Browns 49-40. The offense was entertaining. Earl Morrall threw a 98 yard TD pass to Homer Jones, but they couldn't stop anyone Gave up 501 points in 14 games. Absolutely no pass rush. Lots of injuries too.Earl Morrall broke his wrist, Gary Wood steps in. He gets hurt, so they sign Tom Kennedy off the sandlots of Brooklyn. And of course they traded the number one pick plus other for Tarkenton. So they could not rebuild the defense. Wouldn't matter though as they were inept at drafting.


They had 3 non losing seasons out of the 5 Tarkenton was here. He made them a lot better than they actually were. But they passed on a true rebuild and on taking Bob Griese.
......  
Route 9 : 10/18/2021 5:36 am : link
I wonder what the Saints are thinking ....

"How the fuck did we lose to these goons? And we made Daniel Jones player of the week on top of everything!"
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2021 6:10 am : link
2017, but there's a lot of season left so '21 can claim the top spot.
I started in 1964  
Bubba : 10/18/2021 7:07 am : link
So no not yet but I give then credit for making the effort to be worse. :)
I started in 1965  
blueblood'11 : 10/18/2021 7:58 am : link
it was so bad in those years that when the Giants finally made it to the Super Bowl Jim Gordon who was the Giants radio play by play man said after they beat Washington in the NFC championship game that this is something no one ever thought they would see. Then he said it. The Giants are going to the Suoer Bowl. That's how bad it was.

What is perplexing to me is that John Mara seems to be falling into that same trap as his father did. Making hap hazard moves that keeps setting the franchise back. Building or rebuilding ass backward doesn't work. Are these some of the worst teams in my lifetime. Not yet. But they are bad, real bad. And if Mara doesn't get his shit together it is quickly moving in that direction and not far behind.

RE: ...  
Route 9 : 10/18/2021 8:35 am : link
In comment 15418789 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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2017, but there's a lot of season left so '21 can claim the top spot.


The 2017 team would definitely beat the 2021 team.

That's without OBJ, Sterling Shepard, and even .... Brandon Marshall LOL

My head hurts just thinking of the awful football in the trenches between the two teams. Does one year's offensive line make the other years defensive line look good? Or the other way around?
This team is bad,  
Photoguy : 10/18/2021 9:17 am : link
but certainly not the worst in my lifetime.
I'm pretty pumped...  
aimrocky : 10/18/2021 9:22 am : link
Before yesterday's debacle, I sold all of the remaining games besides Washington. Broke even to this point, but expecting a complete loss with the Washington game (either taking a severely reduced sale or outright eating the tickets). Considering how pathetic this team and franchise is right now, this is about as good as it gets.
Not The Worst I've Seen  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/18/2021 10:58 am : link
Teams of the early to late 70s were the worst. Anyone remember 1973? Giants went 6-0 in the preseason, won their 1st regular season game, and then won 1 more game the rest of the season. That had to be the worst team I remember
sadly no  
Banks : 10/18/2021 1:42 pm : link
2003 and 2013 are probably the worst I've seen. in 2013 we faced like 4 backup qbs in a row to get wins and 2 wins against a washington team in disarray. This team sucks though
RE: sadly no  
Route 9 : 10/18/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15419754 Banks said:
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2003 and 2013 are probably the worst I've seen. in 2013 we faced like 4 backup qbs in a row to get wins and 2 wins against a washington team in disarray. This team sucks though


I think the 2013 team had the worst line out of any of the Giants teams, I thought. Good God. Will Beatty at LT?

That 38-0 game against the Panthers I've never seen a QB sacked as fast as Eli was that day. The Greg Hardy game.
For me yes.  
penkap75 : 10/18/2021 1:50 pm : link
I'm 46 so I suffered through the Dave Brown, Kent Grahm, Danny Kanell years. But at least we had respectable Defenses that kept me an interested fan. I never turned off the TV at halftime like I did this Sunday.
Simply put, in 78, 79, 80, I watched.  
x meadowlander : 10/18/2021 2:07 pm : link
Just about every game. Maybe cause I was young and didn't have the prior 15 years crummy history to fall back on, but I watched.

After the first game of the season, I was already camping, heading to the beach, enjoying the outdoor beauty of upstate rather than yelling at my TV for 3 hours.

I refuse to watch garbage product.

The Giants are garbage product and have been for years.
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