NGT: Carmel High School Football (Putnam County, NY)

My town's team (Somers, two towns south of Carmel) has always taken Carmel to the woodshed regardless of the sport or year. That said, I didn't know Carmel was AA.

My cousin lives in Holmes and went to Carmel HS, and he still goes and watches games. He has been telling they are a wrecking ball this season. He actually called me from the Carmel - Suffern game Saturday.

I went to Lakeland HS so we played them in a lot of sports, they usually had pretty good sports teams. I am still friends with a group of wrestlers from that area from my time in HS, and the wrestling coach from that time just passed away.

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My cousin lives in Holmes and went to Carmel HS, and he still goes and watches games. He has been telling they are a wrecking ball this season. He actually called me from the Carmel - Suffern game Saturday. I went to Lakeland HS so we played them in a lot of sports, they usually had pretty good sports teams. I am still friends with a group of wrestlers from that area from my time in HS, and the wrestling coach from that time just passed away.

From 2004 to the Present, New Rochelle High School Football has a record of 165 Wins and 23 Losses. In that time, they have out-scored opponents by an average of 30 - 9. They have been to the States and the Dome numerous times, winning at least two State Championships. What I saw Carmel do to them this season was a total shock. Never seen it happen before, at least not in this century!

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My town's team (Somers, two towns south of Carmel) has always taken Carmel to the woodshed regardless of the sport or year. That said, I didn't know Carmel was AA.

Lol this is simply untrue. Somers is a division down and way smaller than Carmel. Somers wouldn’t even play Carmel. Somers plays John Jay (the smaller one), Lourdes etc… Carmel plays a division higher. I went to high school at Kennedy which is in Somers and at the time we used to beat Somers often but would have gotten annihilated by Carmel. Kennedy is now totally different and in a private school league or something, I don’t know.

Also, Homes is in Dutchess County and not part of Carmels district, it would be Pawling.

I went to Carmel up until the end of middle school and at that time it was the biggest school in NY state. They are usually very good at football but not like a New Rochelle type team that always seems to be top tier. That being said, I don’t follow it at all really. I think I usually just read the OPs yearly New Rochelle posts and end up looking how other teams fared.

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And we always played Carmel and Mahopac in youth leagues. We used to beat them pretty badly every year so this is surprising to hear

Get him on the Giants radar

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In comment 15418869 NYG22 said: Quote: My town's team (Somers, two towns south of Carmel) has always taken Carmel to the woodshed regardless of the sport or year. That said, I didn't know Carmel was AA. Lol this is simply untrue. Somers is a division down and way smaller than Carmel. Somers wouldn’t even play Carmel. Somers plays John Jay (the smaller one), Lourdes etc… Carmel plays a division higher. I went to high school at Kennedy which is in Somers and at the time we used to beat Somers often but would have gotten annihilated by Carmel. Kennedy is now totally different and in a private school league or something, I don’t know. Also, Homes is in Dutchess County and not part of Carmels district, it would be Pawling. I went to Carmel up until the end of middle school and at that time it was the biggest school in NY state. They are usually very good at football but not like a New Rochelle type team that always seems to be top tier. That being said, I don’t follow it at all really. I think I usually just read the OPs yearly New Rochelle posts and end up looking how other teams fared.

lol, are you telling me I don't know where my cousin lives or where he went to HS? Seriously?

We live in Clarkstown and my kids got to South. Yeah they're a powerhouse. I think South was the only team to have a lead on them. 7-0 and it didn't even make it to a play from scrimmage. They returned the ensuing kickoff for a touchdown lol.

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We live in Clarkstown and my kids got to South. Yeah they're a powerhouse. I think South was the only team to have a lead on them. 7-0 and it didn't even make it to a play from scrimmage. They returned the ensuing kickoff for a touchdown lol.

What blew me away about Carmel is that they have an amazing offensive line that dictates the tempo of the game. They really mash.

In comment 15419667 M.S. said:

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In comment 15419532 Stu11 said: Quote: We live in Clarkstown and my kids got to South. Yeah they're a powerhouse. I think South was the only team to have a lead on them. 7-0 and it didn't even make it to a play from scrimmage. They returned the ensuing kickoff for a touchdown lol. What blew me away about Carmel is that they have an amazing offensive line that dictates the tempo of the game. They really mash.

Yeah both of their little lines were dominant. Skill player wise they're good but honestly I thought the Ketcham QB was better when we played them earlier in the season. He pretty much beat South by himself.

In comment 15419177 mattyblue said:
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Also, Homes is in Dutchess County and not part of Carmels district, it would be Pawling.

I think some parts of Holmes go to Carmel. Stormville is in Dutchess County and half the Stormville kids went to Carmel. I went to John Jay. I don't remember John Jay ever being good at football but I don't really follow it anymore.

I guess it’s possible that parts of Holmes could go to Carmel as well. It’s very weird because Holmes isn’t really a town (I don’t think) and Pawling (the HS football team has switched to playing 8v8 football because they couldn’t field teams) is a ridiculously small school district where most of them go. Sorry about that I didn’t mean to sound like I was calling anyone out, just surprised and I don’t remember kids from Holmes. Carmel is such an enormous district it makes little sense. John Jay (East Fishkill) as well.

isn't very populated but it's a fairly large area that sits between Paterson, Pawling and Stormville. I knew a couple guys my age who went to Pawling, I think they said their graduating class was something like 85-90 kids. John Jay was much bigger but we sucked at all the major sports while I was there. We were pretty good at soccer, that's about it.

Holmes is not actually a town, it’s like two main roads without any sort of businesses or village whatsoever. It ends quickly as well before you reach 52 (if coming from the Patterson and Pawling side) and turns into Stormville. I believe it is part of Pawling but I’m not 100% certain on that. I did some stuff for the town of Pawling Recreation years ago and I know that they vote for Pawling things and get access to whatever benefits Pawling residences do like lakes and parks. It’s strange because areas that I always assume are Holmes end up being Beekman, Pawling, Stormville, or Patterson.

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In comment 15418940 Johnny5 said: Quote: My cousin lives in Holmes and went to Carmel HS, and he still goes and watches games. He has been telling they are a wrecking ball this season. He actually called me from the Carmel - Suffern game Saturday. I went to Lakeland HS so we played them in a lot of sports, they usually had pretty good sports teams. I am still friends with a group of wrestlers from that area from my time in HS, and the wrestling coach from that time just passed away. From 2004 to the Present, New Rochelle High School Football has a record of 165 Wins and 23 Losses. In that time, they have out-scored opponents by an average of 30 - 9. They have been to the States and the Dome numerous times, winning at least two State Championships. What I saw Carmel do to them this season was a total shock. Never seen it happen before, at least not in this century!

Not directly on topic, but how far back do you go with NRHS football? I went to Iona Prep and played in the '92 and '93 Turkey Bowls - a fantastic tradition which unfortunately ended when NY instituted the state playoffs. The last time I wore football equipment was the 1993 Turkey Bowl, where we were losing 15-0 in the 4th quarter, came back to score 2 TDs and 2 two-point conversion to take a 16-15 lead, only to lose on a last-minute TD that was made possible by a fake punt that everyone knew was going to be a fake but which NR converted anyway. Ripped my heart out and I'm still pissed off 28 years later!

In comment 15420202 lawguy9801 said:

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In comment 15418971 M.S. said: Quote: In comment 15418940 Johnny5 said: Quote: My cousin lives in Holmes and went to Carmel HS, and he still goes and watches games. He has been telling they are a wrecking ball this season. He actually called me from the Carmel - Suffern game Saturday. I went to Lakeland HS so we played them in a lot of sports, they usually had pretty good sports teams. I am still friends with a group of wrestlers from that area from my time in HS, and the wrestling coach from that time just passed away. From 2004 to the Present, New Rochelle High School Football has a record of 165 Wins and 23 Losses. In that time, they have out-scored opponents by an average of 30 - 9. They have been to the States and the Dome numerous times, winning at least two State Championships. What I saw Carmel do to them this season was a total shock. Never seen it happen before, at least not in this century! Not directly on topic, but how far back do you go with NRHS football? I went to Iona Prep and played in the '92 and '93 Turkey Bowls - a fantastic tradition which unfortunately ended when NY instituted the state playoffs. The last time I wore football equipment was the 1993 Turkey Bowl, where we were losing 15-0 in the 4th quarter, came back to score 2 TDs and 2 two-point conversion to take a 16-15 lead, only to lose on a last-minute TD that was made possible by a fake punt that everyone knew was going to be a fake but which NR converted anyway. Ripped my heart out and I'm still pissed off 28 years later!

Great story about the Turkey Bowl! I played football for New Rochelle in the early 1970s and I have a recollection of the 1972 Turkey Bowl in which both teams scored the same number of TDs but Iona made all their extra points and we did not. Like you, I was heart-broken!

A few tidbits about the Turkey Bowl. Our next door neighbor was Lev Pope who was the head of WPIX TV and also had sons who went to Iona Prep hence the televised games which began (I think) in the mid- to late 1950s.

I also have a fond memory of being taken to McKenna Field for an early 1960s Turkey Bowl which drew something like 5,000 fans! Iona was a serious underdog but fought heroically and almost pulled off an amazing upset! I can still see the cheer leaders from Iona! They borrowed them from Ursuline on North Avenue.

Btw… the only teacher that ever hit me was a Brother from Iona Prep on Wilmont Road. Long story short… a friend of mine took me over to Iona and being a public school kid with a fat mouth, I didn’t realize how far the Iona teachers could/would enforce their discipline. I found out the hard way.