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Daniel Jones last 20 games....

GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 9:30 am
15 touchdowns passing
14 INTs
225 yards per game passing

To put that in perspective. Stafford, Brady, Mahomes, and Prescott have thrown for more TDs this year than Jones has in the last 2 years.

Now there have been some circumstances that have prevented some better numbers, but for those of you are blaming the OL, the talent, the injuries, the coaching, etc... it is looking more and more that Jones needs the talent to elevate his game, when most QBs in this league are elevating the play of their teammates.

Its time to move on. And to be honest, Glennon may deserve a chance. He just throws a much better ball.
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RE: RE: This isn't the year to draft a QB anyway.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2021 10:50 am : link
In comment 15419167 Jarvis said:
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Fix the OL. Start from there.



The whole concept of “this isn’t the year” seems flawed to me. It may not be, but it also may be. When the Ravens took Lamar Jackson, was he considered a top prospect at QB. In the Jones year (2018), half the people thought Murray was playing baseball, and the other half thought he was too small to be a good QB anyway. Josh Allen was the 3rd QB taken in 2017. Same with Mahomes who wasn’t looked at as a top QB prospect until the draft approached.

The issue with Jones is that I don’t think he is actually great at anything. He seems to be a hard worker and a good student of the game. He can run fast, but isn’t mobile int he pocket. He seems like a QB that one day becomes a solid backup. Great in the QB room, great teammate, may be able to win you a game if needed. I just don’t see someone with the talent to continually elevate the franchise.

Does that mean we must draft a QB high this year…of course not. If whoever is in charge of the scouting at that time doesn’t see a franchise QB, then by all means draft another position. However, if there is a QB that the team (hopefully a new regime) deems worthy, then you must take the QB. As fans, we have been wrong more than we have been right when it comes to scouting QBs ourselves. We aren’t experts. The problem is the Giants haven’t been any better.


Nobody's having a standout season in college this year. If you look at Lamar Jackson's college resume, he should have been valued higher. It's only for the "he should play WR" garbage that he dropped.

Josh Allen wasn't a big prospect, true. Murray was. It was only a question if he was going to play MLB or NFL.

I can't speak for the Wyomings of college, maybe there's a guy out there, but there's no name prospects out there this year except Matt Corral at Miss and Wills from Liberty. There's no obvious guy at this point in time of the college season people should know who's coming with a resume of accomplishments and a ticket to the top of the draft a la a Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence. A QB will appear eventually, but it won't be the kind of prospect anyone on the outside is strongly confident about.
RE: RE: RE: Let me know the QB who is elevating  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 10:50 am : link
In comment 15419285 TheBlueprintNC said:
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Devontae Booker (a 3rd down back) as RB1, Pettis, some guy named Collin Johnson, Evan Engram (enough said), the corpse of Kyle Rudolph, and Sterling Shepard.

With a line bookended by Nate Solder and a 2nd year tackle in Peart. Oh, and a couple of interior lineman picked up off the scrap heap.

For fuck's sake.



Well we know Jones isnt. Again, 20 games, not 1.



Find any 3 games where he had any type of protection and weapons in 20 games.. Ill wait. I can think of 2 we won both


He was pretty well protected all year until this week. Getting sacked 1-2 games isnt that bad.
LOL  
DannyDimes : 10/18/2021 10:52 am : link
In those 20 games how many times did he have talent on the offensive line? How many games was he missing 1,2 or 3 of his receivers? How about Barkley.

DJ is the very least of our issues...
It's fine  
madeinstars : 10/18/2021 10:54 am : link
Letting Jones play out this year. We know what Glennon is, no need to see him play any serious games.

It's even fine letting Jones play next season, if the next regime doesn't see a QB in the draft they want (or even if they do and let that QB sit a while under Jones). But they can NOT pick up his 5th year option if he doesn't start producing. They also need to bring in a serious back up, who is able to realy compete with Jones. A Teddy Bridgewater/Tyrod Taylor type.

By the way: I find it really interesting that the nearly unanimous mantra this off season on this site was: no more excuses for Jones, 2021 is the prove it year. Now that we are 6 games in and the production just isn't there, all we hear are excuses.

It just doesn't fly with me that a top-10 franchise QB can play 20 straight games with such little production. Sure the bad team around him would be responsible for a couple of duds and bad games, but Jones just does not produce enough offense and he doesn't produce enough wins. He hasn't since his Duke days.

I understand that we all want him to be a top QB soooo bad, but there comes a time we have to face the fact that we are dealing with a Trubisky/Bortles situation here. The last thing we want is to give a guy like that 25 million a year, because we are just so afraid to admit we missed on our 1st round QB.
Also  
madeinstars : 10/18/2021 10:56 am : link
there is something really interesting about people correctly understanding and pointing out that Gettleman utterly failed to put a competent team around Jones, while at the same time being blind to the fact that this incompetent GM is very likely to have been just as wrong picking the QB as he was picking the surrounding talent.
another "move on from Daniel Jones" thread...  
EricJ : 10/18/2021 10:56 am : link
lol..

Lets see how many fire DG and fire Judge threads we can get before the end of the day
RE: RE: RE: Garrett  
Section331 : 10/18/2021 10:57 am : link
In comment 15419197 TheBlueprintNC said:
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Uhh yeah adjusted, lets rush 3 or 4 and have everyone else out covering bc Giants cant block or run the ball and have wrs that scare anybody.. heck of an adjustment by DCs


No, you show him one thing pre-snap, and do something else. He has struggled with post-snap recognition from day one. That's OK, all young QB's struggle with it, he just hasn't gotten much better at it.
RE: LOL  
chuckydee9 : 10/18/2021 11:01 am : link
In comment 15419319 DannyDimes said:
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In those 20 games how many times did he have talent on the offensive line? How many games was he missing 1,2 or 3 of his receivers? How about Barkley.

DJ is the very least of our issues...


Its not like the times he had Barkley, we were lighting it up.. See Pitt game from last year, Falcons game from this year? Denver game this year? Last year Dak was missing all his pro-bowl OL, yet he was putting up godly numbers.. I don't see a valid reason why a franchise QB can't put up better numbers than what we have seen.. plus add to it the number of fumbles..15 fumbles in less than season and a half..
Why cant it be  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 11:11 am : link
the surrounding talent is terrible and Daniel Jones is terrible. It can be both.
Slayton played a full season last year and Shep played 12 games  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2021 11:11 am : link
So you can't blame receiver injuries for his unimpressive 2020 numbers.
2 weeks ago..  
moze1021 : 10/18/2021 11:31 am : link
we had threads talking about how no other QB had as good a 5 game active streak as Jones and Kyler Murray...

Proof that (1) recency bias is a big deal and (2) you can find stats to support most narratives if you work hard enough


RE: RE: LOL  
DannyDimes : 10/18/2021 11:40 am : link
In comment 15419351 chuckydee9 said:
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In those 20 games how many times did he have talent on the offensive line? How many games was he missing 1,2 or 3 of his receivers? How about Barkley.

DJ is the very least of our issues...



Its not like the times he had Barkley, we were lighting it up.. See Pitt game from last year, Falcons game from this year? Denver game this year? Last year Dak was missing all his pro-bowl OL, yet he was putting up godly numbers.. I don't see a valid reason why a franchise QB can't put up better numbers than what we have seen.. plus add to it the number of fumbles..15 fumbles in less than season and a half..


Do yourself a favor and compare DJ's first two seasons to Eli and Peytons... and Troy Aikman's....
Pro football is played entirely different now than it was when Aikman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2021 11:41 am : link
was a rookie. Not a good context.
RE: RE: RE: LOL  
Jimmy Googs : 10/18/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15419435 DannyDimes said:
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In those 20 games how many times did he have talent on the offensive line? How many games was he missing 1,2 or 3 of his receivers? How about Barkley.

DJ is the very least of our issues...



Its not like the times he had Barkley, we were lighting it up.. See Pitt game from last year, Falcons game from this year? Denver game this year? Last year Dak was missing all his pro-bowl OL, yet he was putting up godly numbers.. I don't see a valid reason why a franchise QB can't put up better numbers than what we have seen.. plus add to it the number of fumbles..15 fumbles in less than season and a half..



Do yourself a favor and compare DJ's first two seasons to Eli and Peytons... and Troy Aikman's....


Irrelevant, in too many ways to even list...
Peyton Manning went 13-3 in his second season  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2021 11:44 am : link
Threw for 4000 yards and 26 TDs. Your point?
RE: Pro football is played entirely different now than it was when Aikman  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2021 11:46 am : link
In comment 15419437 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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was a rookie. Not a good context.


Hell it’s played entirely different than it was when we last won a super bowl.
You lost me when you said it's time for Glennon.  
Blue21 : 10/18/2021 11:48 am : link
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RE: You lost me when you said it's time for Glennon.  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 11:55 am : link
In comment 15419457 Blue21 said:
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Cause it could get worse than it was yesterday? I mean people can blame everyone else.... but the one play that summed it up for me was when Jones had Johnson on a fade. The defender was lost and clueless. I dont care if Johnson is ascrub, he was NFL open and interfered with.

The problem is Jones threw it into the 5th row instead of giving his WR a chance to make a play.
I used to believe Giants' fans were intelligent, thoughtful, and  
Tom in NY : 10/18/2021 12:00 pm : link
understood the game better than many other fan bases.

Then I come on here and read this post, as well as a series of other post-game takes and I no longer have that belief.

DJ may or may not be the starting QB in 2022, but pulling the plug on him for Glennon after 6 games...when he played very well in 4 of them, is among the dumbest ideas expressed on BBI in the 25 years I've been on here.
...  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2021 12:00 pm : link
need the New Orleans game to be the norm, which I think it can be. Just sucks that we are still patchworking everything together.
RE: I used to believe Giants' fans were intelligent, thoughtful, and  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15419484 Tom in NY said:
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understood the game better than many other fan bases.

Then I come on here and read this post, as well as a series of other post-game takes and I no longer have that belief.

DJ may or may not be the starting QB in 2022, but pulling the plug on him for Glennon after 6 games...when he played very well in 4 of them, is among the dumbest ideas expressed on BBI in the 25 years I've been on here.


Can you tell me what 4 games he played "well" in?
Doesn't matter  
Thegratefulhead : 10/18/2021 12:04 pm : link
It isn't the QB.

The franchise is full of rot.

Losing is acceptable if there is progress.

No, it isn't.

Win or GTFO.

How about that?
Wait  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 12:04 pm : link
what 4 games he played "very" well in.
RE: I used to believe Giants' fans were intelligent, thoughtful, and  
Thegratefulhead : 10/18/2021 12:08 pm : link
In comment 15419484 Tom in NY said:
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understood the game better than many other fan bases.

Then I come on here and read this post, as well as a series of other post-game takes and I no longer have that belief.

DJ may or may not be the starting QB in 2022, but pulling the plug on him for Glennon after 6 games...when he played very well in 4 of them, is among the dumbest ideas expressed on BBI in the 25 years I've been on here.
No it is not. If Glennon plays better than Jones, it will tell you a fuck ton about Jones. If we don't try anyone else we will continue to hear shit like.

All QBs would fail here.

If we don't try anyone else for more than a game, where they take all the snaps for a few weeks how will we ever know?

Give him a concussion rest, protect his ego.

People don't want to know.
RE: ...  
Producer : 10/18/2021 12:11 pm : link
In comment 15419485 ryanmkeane said:
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need the New Orleans game to be the norm, which I think it can be. Just sucks that we are still patchworking everything together.


That game was Jones at his very tippy top best. QBs don't play at their best 15 out of 17 games. Mahomes' best is 450 yards 5 TDs, he doesn't do that every week. But Mahomes is good to do Jones' best, most weeks.
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ajr2456 : 10/18/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15419513 Producer said:
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need the New Orleans game to be the norm, which I think it can be. Just sucks that we are still patchworking everything together.



That game was Jones at his very tippy top best. QBs don't play at their best 15 out of 17 games. Mahomes' best is 450 yards 5 TDs, he doesn't do that every week. But Mahomes is good to do Jones' best, most weeks.


This. Mahomes was bad yesterday and went 397-2-2. Jones bad games aren’t even half that good.
RE: Also  
BlueVinnie : 10/18/2021 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15419334 madeinstars said:
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there is something really interesting about people correctly understanding and pointing out that Gettleman utterly failed to put a competent team around Jones, while at the same time being blind to the fact that this incompetent GM is very likely to have been just as wrong picking the QB as he was picking the surrounding talent.

LOL! Obviously DG made one great pick in Jones. However, his utter incompetence on all other selections is holding Daniel back from the greatness that he is capable of.

I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand that all of these things are possible:
- Gettleman has no idea how to build a team
- Judge is not a good head coach
- Jones is not a franchise QB
When a team "achieves" a triple crown such as this, it results in the consistent incompetence that we are seeing on the field.

What was bad  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:20 pm : link
about Mahomes' game yesterday?
RE: RE: I used to believe Giants' fans were intelligent, thoughtful, and  
Debaser : 10/18/2021 12:21 pm : link
In comment 15419502 Thegratefulhead said:
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understood the game better than many other fan bases.

Then I come on here and read this post, as well as a series of other post-game takes and I no longer have that belief.

DJ may or may not be the starting QB in 2022, but pulling the plug on him for Glennon after 6 games...when he played very well in 4 of them, is among the dumbest ideas expressed on BBI in the 25 years I've been on here.

No it is not. If Glennon plays better than Jones, it will tell you a fuck ton about Jones. If we don't try anyone else we will continue to hear shit like.

All QBs would fail here.

If we don't try anyone else for more than a game, where they take all the snaps for a few weeks how will we ever know?

Give him a concussion rest, protect his ego.

People don't want to know.


I would be curious to see GLennon more and that was the time to do it. No one would bat an eye if Judge came out and said " look Jones got banged up good in Dallas he is our starter, but given that he is on concussion protocol and Glennon got all the reps in practice; we're giving Jones the day off and starting Glennon". THat is quite different than saying " we want to see what we have in Glennon" in week 6 or whatever.
RE: What was bad  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 12:23 pm : link
In comment 15419533 crick n NC said:
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about Mahomes' game yesterday?


If you saw his 2nd INT, you would have thought he never played the game before. It was that bad. lol
RE: RE: What was bad  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:23 pm : link
In comment 15419538 GNewGiants said:
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about Mahomes' game yesterday?



If you saw his 2nd INT, you would have thought he never played the game before. It was that bad. lol


That is one play though.
RE: RE: RE: What was bad  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 12:24 pm : link
In comment 15419539 crick n NC said:
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about Mahomes' game yesterday?



If you saw his 2nd INT, you would have thought he never played the game before. It was that bad. lol



That is one play though.


I think ther eference that 390 and 2/2 is a BAD day for Mahomes. Which shows how good he is.
maybe...  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:25 pm : link
wasn't one of his ints a drop by hill near the GL?
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rsjem1979 : 10/18/2021 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15419513 Producer said:
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need the New Orleans game to be the norm, which I think it can be. Just sucks that we are still patchworking everything together.



That game was Jones at his very tippy top best. QBs don't play at their best 15 out of 17 games. Mahomes' best is 450 yards 5 TDs, he doesn't do that every week. But Mahomes is good to do Jones' best, most weeks.


Yeah, even the most ardent critics of Jones wouldn't demand that he play like he did in New Orleans every week.

That said, the baseline should be his performance in Washington. Every one of his passing statistics in that game were right on what you'd expect over a full season from a top 10 NFL QB.

Using 2020 season stats:

Comp: 68.75% (8th)
Y/A: 7.78 (8th)
Rating: 102.2 (9th)
TDs: 2 total (on per game basis would be middle of the pack)

The problem is that the WFT game represents one of the best starts of Jones' career. If he was doing that regularly, I don't think we'd have a problem.
It looked like Glennon was going to be put in the game  
Debaser : 10/18/2021 12:26 pm : link
He had his helmet on when they showed the sideline
RE: RE: RE: ...  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15419550 rsjem1979 said:
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need the New Orleans game to be the norm, which I think it can be. Just sucks that we are still patchworking everything together.



That game was Jones at his very tippy top best. QBs don't play at their best 15 out of 17 games. Mahomes' best is 450 yards 5 TDs, he doesn't do that every week. But Mahomes is good to do Jones' best, most weeks.



Yeah, even the most ardent critics of Jones wouldn't demand that he play like he did in New Orleans every week.

That said, the baseline should be his performance in Washington. Every one of his passing statistics in that game were right on what you'd expect over a full season from a top 10 NFL QB.

Using 2020 season stats:

Comp: 68.75% (8th)
Y/A: 7.78 (8th)
Rating: 102.2 (9th)
TDs: 2 total (on per game basis would be middle of the pack)

The problem is that the WFT game represents one of the best starts of Jones' career. If he was doing that regularly, I don't think we'd have a problem.


Terps said he needed to play better than that each week. In fact he said his performance was not impressive.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
rsjem1979 : 10/18/2021 12:33 pm : link
In comment 15419553 crick n NC said:
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Using 2020 season stats:

Comp: 68.75% (8th)
Y/A: 7.78 (8th)
Rating: 102.2 (9th)
TDs: 2 total (on per game basis would be middle of the pack)

The problem is that the WFT game represents one of the best starts of Jones' career. If he was doing that regularly, I don't think we'd have a problem.



Terps said he needed to play better than that each week. In fact he said his performance was not impressive.


And...?

Seems irrelevant when most weeks Jones doesn't even approach that.
Do you really not  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:34 pm : link
understand why I made that comment? You made a statement that even his hardest critics don't expect him to play like he did versus the saints each week. I found one right away.
RE: Do you really not  
rsjem1979 : 10/18/2021 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15419573 crick n NC said:
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understand why I made that comment? You made a statement that even his hardest critics don't expect him to play like he did versus the saints each week. I found one right away.


Maybe you should consider not obsessing over one particular poster and just address the content of my comment? Jesus, grow up.
RE: RE: Do you really not  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:37 pm : link
In comment 15419578 rsjem1979 said:
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understand why I made that comment? You made a statement that even his hardest critics don't expect him to play like he did versus the saints each week. I found one right away.



Maybe you should consider not obsessing over one particular poster and just address the content of my comment? Jesus, grow up.


That comment was important enough for you to state in your post to help your point, but I am out of bounds for calling BS on it? I like your deals.
Everyone said the NO game was good but that  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 12:37 pm : link
Jones needed to keep it up and develop. Instead, Jones has been terrible, including his first half action vs Dallas, with several starting skill players on the field.

NO is looking like a blip.
RE: Also  
Debaser : 10/18/2021 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15419334 madeinstars said:
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there is something really interesting about people correctly understanding and pointing out that Gettleman utterly failed to put a competent team around Jones, while at the same time being blind to the fact that this incompetent GM is very likely to have been just as wrong picking the QB as he was picking the surrounding talent.


Would you be saying that is he picked Jones at 17 or even in the 2nd round?

The fact is this team is so terrible and been picking high in the draft that you can't even look at this as a wasted pick.
RE: RE: RE: Do you really not  
rsjem1979 : 10/18/2021 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15419581 crick n NC said:
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understand why I made that comment? You made a statement that even his hardest critics don't expect him to play like he did versus the saints each week. I found one right away.



Maybe you should consider not obsessing over one particular poster and just address the content of my comment? Jesus, grow up.



That comment was important enough for you to state in your post to help your point, but I am out of bounds for calling BS on it? I like your deals.


Since it seems clear you aren't willing to have an actual discussion without making this about BBI grudges and politics and whatever else is going on in that head of yours, I'm going to stop here. Have a lovely day.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Do you really not  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15419585 rsjem1979 said:
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understand why I made that comment? You made a statement that even his hardest critics don't expect him to play like he did versus the saints each week. I found one right away.



Maybe you should consider not obsessing over one particular poster and just address the content of my comment? Jesus, grow up.



That comment was important enough for you to state in your post to help your point, but I am out of bounds for calling BS on it? I like your deals.



Since it seems clear you aren't willing to have an actual discussion without making this about BBI grudges and politics and whatever else is going on in that head of yours, I'm going to stop here. Have a lovely day.


That is a shame that is fair for you to point out bs in other's posts, but call foul when done to you.

btw, find my obsession with terps. You won't. You are on a roll of BS posts today.
RE: RE: RE: LOL  
chuckydee9 : 10/18/2021 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15419435 DannyDimes said:
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In those 20 games how many times did he have talent on the offensive line? How many games was he missing 1,2 or 3 of his receivers? How about Barkley.

DJ is the very least of our issues...



Its not like the times he had Barkley, we were lighting it up.. See Pitt game from last year, Falcons game from this year? Denver game this year? Last year Dak was missing all his pro-bowl OL, yet he was putting up godly numbers.. I don't see a valid reason why a franchise QB can't put up better numbers than what we have seen.. plus add to it the number of fumbles..15 fumbles in less than season and a half..



Do yourself a favor and compare DJ's first two seasons to Eli and Peytons... and Troy Aikman's....


Are you serious? we are going to compares numbers across era ? Aikman and Peyton played in an era where one, may be 2 QBs threw for 30 TDs.. during Aikman's first season no QB threw for 30 TDs.. last year 10+ qbs were responsible for 30Tds.. Danny Dimes was behind Nick Mullens.. Mullens's team was 5x more injured than Danny Dimes.. whats his excuse?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Do you really not  
rsjem1979 : 10/18/2021 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15419592 crick n NC said:
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That is a shame that is fair for you to point out bs in other's posts, but call foul when done to you.

btw, find my obsession with terps. You won't. You are on a roll of BS posts today.


Good luck baiting someone into an argument today. It's not going to be me.
RE: I used to believe Giants' fans were intelligent, thoughtful, and  
Debaser : 10/18/2021 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15419484 Tom in NY said:
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understood the game better than many other fan bases.

Then I come on here and read this post, as well as a series of other post-game takes and I no longer have that belief.

DJ may or may not be the starting QB in 2022, but pulling the plug on him for Glennon after 6 games...when he played very well in 4 of them, is among the dumbest ideas expressed on BBI in the 25 years I've been on here.


I am not going to argue with your assessment of posters here but which 4 games ? I hope you are not tellin gme he played well in the Atlanta game or Dallas game.
I  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 12:44 pm : link
don't get what was unfair about my post. You made a claim that I found to be not true and called it. That happens all the time around here, happens to me, etc.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Let me know the QB who is elevating  
TheBlueprintNC : 10/18/2021 12:55 pm : link
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Devontae Booker (a 3rd down back) as RB1, Pettis, some guy named Collin Johnson, Evan Engram (enough said), the corpse of Kyle Rudolph, and Sterling Shepard.

With a line bookended by Nate Solder and a 2nd year tackle in Peart. Oh, and a couple of interior lineman picked up off the scrap heap.

For fuck's sake.



Well we know Jones isnt. Again, 20 games, not 1.



Find any 3 games where he had any type of protection and weapons in 20 games.. Ill wait. I can think of 2 we won both



He was pretty well protected all year until this week. Getting sacked 1-2 games isnt that bad.


You really wrote that? Did you not watch the games last year? the line was aawful until the end of the year and he got hurt. He had so many weapons that they added 4
RE: I used to believe Giants' fans were intelligent, thoughtful, and  
TheBlueprintNC : 10/18/2021 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15419484 Tom in NY said:
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understood the game better than many other fan bases.

Then I come on here and read this post, as well as a series of other post-game takes and I no longer have that belief.

DJ may or may not be the starting QB in 2022, but pulling the plug on him for Glennon after 6 games...when he played very well in 4 of them, is among the dumbest ideas expressed on BBI in the 25 years I've been on here.


Holy fuck absolutely this!!!!
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